Not A Wilting Flower

Female; Egalitarian; 29

[boxofdelights]

Stephen Paddock

The Sheriff said that they aren’t treating it as an act of terrorism because “we don’t know what his belief system is.” Revert Muslims

[notawiltingflower]

We DO NOT know that yet.

Do you know why they’re not labeling him a terrorist because they dont know what his belief system is yet? Because terrorism is “ the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims”

Terrorism isnt "person who kills a lot of people". Theres has to be a reason thats political and usually religious. Thats why "mass murderer" is a different thing.

No, he isn't Muslim. He isnt in ISIS. So please, explain what political or religious movement or cause he did this because of. There has to be one if he's a terrorist, and you clearly are certain he is.

And then call the police, because they aren't willing to announce a label for what he did, since there isnt any proof one way or another yet as to his motives. But as you are 100% confidant he's a terrorist, you should let them know what political/religious movement hes done this on behalf of.

Assuming you aren't just unaware of what a terrorist is, think its specifically Muslim/ISIS related, and are spewing your misconceptions all over a horrible tragedy.

[dailyevanstan]

[mousebrass]

There are Tony stans in the notes on this, going on about how these cops were ‘just doing their job’, and I’m like… their job of trying to shoot an innocent man - not arrest him, to kill him on sight - for a crime *he did not commit*?

[artsychick-universe]

Maybe the Tony stans should replace Cap with Tony and Bucky with Rhodey; if Rhodey was framed for a crime and Tony knew that, would he stand by and let the police coming to kill him do their jobs? Hell, Tony hit Sam with a blast from an arc reactor just for being anywhere near Rhodey when he got injured. Best friend protective mode, right? Why would Cap do anything less for Bucky? Because Cap is no less of a loyal man than Tony is, and Bucky is no less important than Rhodey. 

[notawiltingflower]

This site sure is interesting. When they’re portraying an innocent white guy that the cops are trying to shoot dead, then they’re “just doing their jobs” and the guy trying to stop them is a bully.

[ferretfyre]

I want to die.

[mangaluva-deactivated20220930]

That phrase “what’s her damage” is what really scares me here

IE he thinks he’s gotta damage her to make her Batgirl because he has literally zero concept of who Barbara Gordon is as a person

IE we’re probably gonna have to see Babs put through some act of extreme violence (oh god please don’t let it be sexual violence PLEASE) to traumatize her into becoming Batgirl

Seriously what is wrong with her dressing like Batman for a party just to piss off her dad and winding up stopping a coupla supervillains and deciding to keep doing it because this shit’s awesome and no, Batman, you don’t get to tell her to stop, you don’t get to tell her ANYTHING because she’s not your sidekick

Lil Dick Grayson making heart eyes in the background the whole time

Seriously Joss there is nothing wrong with that concept, you can make a woman into a badass without damaging her first

[the-catholic-geek]

I don’t know anything about Batgirl and this sounds awful

[comrade-kirby-deactivated202009]

stop Joss Whedon 2017 

[frangipani-wanderlust]

Why is it so mystifying to think that maybe, just maybe, Barbara has a strong bent towards helping people in trouble, and a deep abhorrence of suffering? How is that confusing? Does Joss not understand these concepts? Or is he just incapable of thinking they could apply to a woman?

[notawiltingflower]

No! Good news! If you read the text in the image you just commented on you will see this

Who is this person, who decides — rather than being forced to by their childhood trauma — decides to pick up this life? 

where he specifically says she will not be motivated by trauma, and is just interested in how “ “How intense and driven that person is “ not her motives, thats in no way mentioned here, but just the type of personality.

“whats your damage” is a 90s phrase that means “whats her deal”

did ya’ll just see “damaged” and “Joss Whedon” and make the rest up? You are all upset that Joss Whedon is literally saying what you’re saying. Joss: she isnt motivated by traumaYa’ll: Joss is sexist for making Batgirl motivated by trauma An actual walnut: the fuck is wrong with you all

[ferretfyre]

I want to die.

[mangaluva-deactivated20220930]

That phrase “what’s her damage” is what really scares me here

IE he thinks he’s gotta damage her to make her Batgirl because he has literally zero concept of who Barbara Gordon is as a person

IE we’re probably gonna have to see Babs put through some act of extreme violence (oh god please don’t let it be sexual violence PLEASE) to traumatize her into becoming Batgirl

Seriously what is wrong with her dressing like Batman for a party just to piss off her dad and winding up stopping a coupla supervillains and deciding to keep doing it because this shit’s awesome and no, Batman, you don’t get to tell her to stop, you don’t get to tell her ANYTHING because she’s not your sidekick

Lil Dick Grayson making heart eyes in the background the whole time

Seriously Joss there is nothing wrong with that concept, you can make a woman into a badass without damaging her first

[the-catholic-geek]

I don’t know anything about Batgirl and this sounds awful

[out-there-on-the-maroon]

Keep Joss Whedon away from all women, and especially young women.

[patrickat]

What’s Joss Whedon’s “damage”? :/

[out-there-on-the-maroon]

Someone get @patrickat a microphone and put them in front of Joss Whedon please, I wanna see him get asked this. 

[cenodyke-deactivated20211019]

we all know its gonna be sexual violence bc he’s a piece of shit whose obsessed with putting it in his work so like lets put a stop to this and kill him now,

[notawiltingflower]

its goin g to be NO violence.

“whats your damage” is a 90s phrase he used in Buffy a lot that means “whats your damage.

did you read the bit, right freaking there, that says  Who is this person, who decides — rather than being forced to by their childhood trauma — decides to pick up this life?

it literally says he is not going to be motivated by trauma.

you read “she will not be motivated by trauma” and thought “i bet the trauma sh3e will be motivated by is sexual violence”. That doesn't mate him a sexist, it makes you a fucking walnut

[ferretfyre]

I want to die.

[mangaluva-deactivated20220930]

That phrase “what’s her damage” is what really scares me here

IE he thinks he’s gotta damage her to make her Batgirl because he has literally zero concept of who Barbara Gordon is as a person

IE we’re probably gonna have to see Babs put through some act of extreme violence (oh god please don’t let it be sexual violence PLEASE) to traumatize her into becoming Batgirl

Seriously what is wrong with her dressing like Batman for a party just to piss off her dad and winding up stopping a coupla supervillains and deciding to keep doing it because this shit’s awesome and no, Batman, you don’t get to tell her to stop, you don’t get to tell her ANYTHING because she’s not your sidekick

Lil Dick Grayson making heart eyes in the background the whole time

Seriously Joss there is nothing wrong with that concept, you can make a woman into a badass without damaging her first

[the-catholic-geek]

I don’t know anything about Batgirl and this sounds awful

[out-there-on-the-maroon]

Keep Joss Whedon away from all women, and especially young women.

[patrickat]

What’s Joss Whedon’s “damage”? :/

[out-there-on-the-maroon]

Someone get @patrickat a microphone and put them in front of Joss Whedon please, I wanna see him get asked this. 

[whereintheworldiskamalakhan]

“you can make a woman into a badass without damaging her first”

especially when hollywood thinks the only way a woman can be hurt is sexually

(and “damaged” = less than perfect, pure, whole, good = the ideal object to be consumed now broken and put on clearance)

[notawiltingflower]

“damaged” = deal

“whats your damage” is a 90s phrase he used a lot that means “whats your deal”.

Hes literallyin no way actually taking about real damage to her.

Who is this person, who decides — rather than being forced to by their childhood trauma — decides to pick up this life?

[ferretfyre]

I want to die.

[mangaluva-deactivated20220930]

That phrase “what’s her damage” is what really scares me here

IE he thinks he’s gotta damage her to make her Batgirl because he has literally zero concept of who Barbara Gordon is as a person

IE we’re probably gonna have to see Babs put through some act of extreme violence (oh god please don’t let it be sexual violence PLEASE) to traumatize her into becoming Batgirl

Seriously what is wrong with her dressing like Batman for a party just to piss off her dad and winding up stopping a coupla supervillains and deciding to keep doing it because this shit’s awesome and no, Batman, you don’t get to tell her to stop, you don’t get to tell her ANYTHING because she’s not your sidekick

Lil Dick Grayson making heart eyes in the background the whole time

Seriously Joss there is nothing wrong with that concept, you can make a woman into a badass without damaging her first

[notawiltingflower]

You people are fucking...wow.

The writer misunderstood. "Whats your damage" is a 90's phrase, one he used a lot in Buffy, that literally means "whats her deal".

He literally said the OPPOSITE of all of this shit

"She didn't have her parents killed in an alley. Who is this person, who decides — rather than being forced to by their childhood trauma — decides to pick up this life?" he said. "How intense and driven that person is ... I just couldn't stop thinking about it."

He thinks he DOESN'T have to damage her to make her Batgirl. IE were NOT going to see Babs put through anything extreme.

It literally says “not forced into it because of trauma”

You fucking wombats.

(Hes the actual link to the article and video)

[allthecanadianpolitics]

'We Matter' campaign speaks directly to Indigenous youth contemplating suicide

Videos of inspiration encourage Indigenous youth to not give up during tough times

A brother/sister duo from Hay River, Northwest Territories, launched a new online campaign, We Matter, for Indigenous youth who feel alone and are looking for support.

The website features videos of Indigenous people from across Canada sharing a personal story of struggle and perseverance. The hope is that the messages will encourage Indigenous youth to not give up.

Kelvin Redvers, filmmaker and co-founder of the We Matter campaign, said the aim of the initiative is to reduce the number of Indigenous suicides.

He and his sister, Tunchai, started gathering the videos in April. They hope to collect voices from each Indigenous community in Canada.

“By sharing our voices, by everybody standing up and sharing their own stories and their own messages. We think we can really help people that are feeling alone,” Redvers said.

Continue Reading.

The website is https://wemattercampaign.org/

[dynastylnoire]

We can’t have one thing

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

black lives matter members hate native americans thats why they ALWAYS try to shut us down whenever we speak up about anything

[notawiltingflower]

@dynastylnoire Ugh, I know, all black people want is to own the concept of being effected by racism, feeling suicidal/killing themselves because of it, getting support for it, and ‘mattering’. Can’t people just let them have that one tiny thing?

Its just not fair that other races keep talking about their struggle with bigotry and racism when black people called ‘keepsies’ on it. Can’t they just deal with it silently instead??

Don’t they understand that, by bringing attention to how racism effects them, they’re basically telling black people “you aren’t the only people with struggles”, and how damaging that is? How can they be the only lives that matter if other people face the same struggles? They’re going to influence people into thinking hey should support all races, that just isn’t fair.

All black people want is to be the only ones allowed to say their lives ‘matter’, why do people have to take that one little thing away from them?

[jamesrbarnes]

Also, I've heard that buckynat was problematic but I've never read the comics where they're together, so why do you think it was misogynistic? Do you think it's the same when they're together when they meet each other years later outside of the red room and choose to stay together? (This isn't hate or anything I'm genuinely curious. I'd love to hear opinions on this topic)

hey sorry for the late reply!! under the cut x

Keep reading

[notawiltingflower]

“here is absolutely no reason for them to be together besides the fact that…they literally are”

“the only real argument i’ve seen for them is ‘they understand each other like no one else’ which, ok….they do resonate with each others experiences like no one else can, but that’s not a reason for them to be together?”

....No, thats...thats the exact reason? How is “they understand eachother like nobody else can” not a reason to be in a relationship? Is it a better, more stable and logical reason to date if two people have nothing in common and don’t understand the others serious issues and support them?

“for example; when they’re in the red room, despite natasha being with someone else, bucky, her teacher, sneaks into her room at night to have sex with her.”

She wasn’t ‘with’ someone else, it was an arranged marriage she had no choice in. They were in love, and they had to meet in secret because the KGB was ‘promised her’ to someone else. I would think the “two people in love finding a way to be together” would trump “being faithful to the guy your handlers sold you to”.

“not to mention you’ve seen the movies and how young, scared and vulnerable was in the red room.”

vs Bucky, whos clearly in control and in now way vulnerable at all. We totally don’t see him, years after that, being bitch slapped and tortured by his handlers. But visibly Bucky is large and has a metal arm (from that time his captors buzz sawed his off), and Nat is visibly petite. Though we never see Bucky then, we can assume because hes a man he was tough and fearless. ...This is suppose to be against misogyny, isn’t it?

“it’s the two hot, brainwashed russian assassins (which, yikes) who are shoved together because theyre that Aesthetic™.”

Its the two people forced against their will, through systematic abuse and manipulation, to be assassins, forced together to train and seeing in each other the same pain and confusion that they’ve been dealing with alone for as long as they can remember. Never being able to talk to anyone about what they suffer through because any sign of questioning what they are is met with punishment, and recognizing someone they can finally confide in and find comfort in. A chance to be human, share emotions, share love, in a place where all of those things are forbidden.

I think its pretty horrible to take everything Natasha's been through, and how thats mirrored in Bucky's experiences, and only be able to see “hot russian assassin”. They’re both victims of torture, abuse and manipulation, thats not an ‘aesthetic”. And its a bit disturbing that because they’re heterosexual, none of their emotional and mental reasons to be drawn toward eachother can be understood, and you can only see their sexual appeal to eachother.

“why do people want her to be fcking her hydra instructor so bad?? it seems incredibly iffy to me.”

Its the plot. They want to see them follow the plot. Nobodys looking for some “hot guy in authority position over girl” thing, because all of us know even in that position, Bucky has no authority. Hes told to train her and he does, he has no ability to do anything beyond that because hes not allowed to make decisions of his own.

We want to see Nat, who is scared of this terrifyingly dangerous guy when he walks in, that shes heard of whispered about in hushed voices, we want to see her go at him to prove to him/them/herself she isn’t afraid, but realize right away that he isn't terrifying, hes just as afraid as she is. He’s scared and vulnerable, and just like her he’s trying to prove hes the opposite in fear of what they do to people who aren’t. That he’s not some emotionless killing machine, but like her he wishes he was.

None of us see it as him crafting her into a deadly killer, he knows he has to train her, but he’s doing it to give her the skills to protect herself and stay alive.

The only people that see it as “strong teacher/vulnerable student” are the same people that despite all of the deep reasons for them to be together, assume its because shes got a vag and hes got a dick, and since they’re heterosexual thats got to be their motivation to be in a relationship.

“theres so many movies where the hets are together, but…why?? do they even like each other?? what do they have in common?? like…why?”

> they do resonate with each others experiences like no one else can > they understand each other like no one else

Also, I would assume they’re in a heterosexual relationship because they’re heterosexuals.

“what do they have in common??“

......literally their entire life? All of their experiences? Their personalities? Their hopes?

“we just accept unnecessary het pairings and hold gay ones to such a higher standard”

Im starting to think the argument behind this entire thing is “i dont understand why straight people date each other? why cant heterosexuals like, have no relationships at all and only friendships?”

Het parings aren't ‘unnecessary’ just because they exist. Interestingly enough, as Im sure you noticed as you’re alive, straight people often do date each other, and yes, even have sex! Its not just a product of the media, they really do! So, really, it would make sense that two heterosexual characters, at some point, will date someone. Hopefully, like this paring, its based on deep shared experiences and mutual respect and love.

And Im not sure how gay parings are the ones held to a higher standard when apparently “they understand each other like no one else“ isn’t good enough of a reason for a het paring.

“i haven’t read much of it because of the whole anxiety thing, but i’ve talked a lot with people who have and i’ve seen lots of random panels etc”

Thats...really not in anyway a way to base an entire opinion on. “it makes me nervous so im not going to look into it, just base my entire opinion on random panels without context” isn’t really the best way to go about...anything.

But here a few others, if thats how we’re forming opinions now

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

I wonder

How many people who hate he lifting fandom also download movies/comics/and shows

[thetransgenderoffender]

I always read it as weight lifting fandom.

My guess is quite a lot.

[girls-to-avoid]

I downloaded a movie but it was one I already owned but had left at my dad’s does that count

[mechfan666]

I pirated a few video games. For the most part they were games I had already paid for but for whatever reason couldn’t use anymore, like broken or missing discs.

[maliciousbugman]

This analogy doesn’t work for me because the games I pirate are actually not available for retail in any fashion at the moment, and usually cost tons of money in the secondhand market.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

it’s still theft. it’s still receiving stolen goods

you’re whole “it costs a lot” is the same shit these shoplifters use. all you gotta do is claim im classist and you’ll be exactly like them 

what makes you different again? you still take things from people without paying. 

[maliciousbugman]

If you can’t tell the difference between theft and piracy (especially for goods that aren’t made or sold by that producer anymore) then get the fuck out of my face with your “ur just as bad” bullshit.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

It’s cute how you steal things but have to do so many backflips so you can pretend you’re different from any shoplifter or thief.

You’re not any different. You’re just as bad as they are

[ilikechildren--fried-deactivate]

I guess you better unfollow me then.

Considering I – someone who barely puts a dent into a billion dollar movie studio by downloading a copy of the shitty Ghostbusters remake that I refuse to waste the much needed fifteen dollars my broke ass could spend on food – am “just as bad” as assholes who damn near take money out of the pockets of low-wage workers of retail stores because they want frivolous expensive shit they’re not even going to care about in two weeks to impress other assholes.

You might want to distance yourself from me immediately.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

You sound exactly like the shoplifters who claim stealing from sephora is okay because they’re a billion dollar industry. Yes you are just as bad and I didn’t say shit about unfollowing anyone. All you’re doing is proving you’re exactly the same as the people you so vocally shit on. You both break the same laws. You take something you didn’t pay for. And it actually effects those low wage earners you pretend to care about. You think about people like directors and actors when you justify your criminal activity but you forget you’re actually stealing from people who work at theaters. They get fired because he theater isn’t seeing the results they should be so they even jack up their prices and fire folks to compensate. But it’s okay when you do it. It’s okay when you steal frivolous shit you don’t need. It’s okay when you take money from low wage earners. It’s okay when you break the law. It’s okay when you say the exact same shit they do to justify their crimes.

It’s been shown to me time and time again people will get pissy as hell when you point out their hypocrisy. At least I can admit my own hypocrisy.

[ilikechildren--fried-deactivate]

I shouldn’t have to explain this to an adult.

Do you even know how 80% of movies get on the internet?

Someone buys the DVD/bluray, rips it, posts it on a website, then people download it. It’s common knowledge that when you buy something, you OWN IT. So when someone that owns said DVD THAT INDIVIDUAL OWNS, lets others borrow it, that’s not stealing.

Torrenting movies/music etc. is the equivilant of ripping a CD/DVD off your friend, just on a more massive scale. But going by your logic, it’s stealing.

Now, if I were to hack into Warner Bros. servers to download a copy of a film that hasn’t been released yet and redistribute it, THAT is stealing. Because you are unlawfully taking property that doesn’t belong to you.

The “downloading movies is stealing” bullshit is just a way for studios to guilt people into seeing their shit movies. Same shit happened when a leaked,copy of X-Men Origins: Wolverine came out. The FBI, the studio, even Hugh fucking Jackman threatened to lock up anyone who watched the movie illegally, but guess what? Nothing happened. No arrests. Nothing. Cause overall, no one, not even the FBI gave a fuck. It was only a scare tactic because early reviews were being released calling the movie exactly what it was – a shit heap – and 20th Century Fox knew they’d be tarred and feathers for that garbage flick.

Hollwood studios only spread this shit to hide how lazy their movies have gotten. That’s it.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

except that there is a loss of money and potential profits. it’s no different. it’s still hypocrisy.

did you know receiving stolen goods is still illegal? probably not you were too busy shoplifting pirating stolen goods

if you download say one movie (except it’s like chips, you cant just steal one) thats one ticket sale gone, that’s also one dvd/blu-ray sale gone.

and yeah if one person downloaded only one movie ever it’d be a drop of water in an ocean. except it’s not one person. it’s a shitload of people stealing a shitload of movies all the time. so what can a theater do when hardly anyone is coming to the movies and they have to pay so many employees? the same thing sephora does. they start firing people. same with places like gamestop and best buy.

see you think you’re stealing from the rich (which still isnt morally right) but just like shoplifters you’re stealing from the retail workers everyone pretends to care about. maybe that teen who just got fired because of you and your other cronies stealing was saving up to move out of an abusive home, or support their kind yet sickly parents. or hell even just because they wanted to have some spending money.

you shouldn’t have to justify telling people not to fucking steal anything.

at the very fucking least you can admit you’re doing wrong.

you’re justifying shoplifting but it’s okay when you do it because you’re somehow above the law

[ilikechildren--fried-deactivate]

“Receiving stolen goods is illegal” did you read one fucking word I typed? And name ONE movie that drastically lost profits because of piracy.

Originally posted by leavinjustintime

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

hahaha holy shit you’re retarded.

so much for caring about those low wage earners you pretended to care about when you so vehemently attacked your fellow brother and sisters in the shoplifting fandom

i dont expect shoplifters to know how to read.

someone ripping a dvd and uploading it to the internet IS fucking illegal

but you’re above the law i keep forgetting that

[ilikechildren--fried-deactivate]

^When you’ve run out of steam in an argument

[thewriterhimself-deactivated201]

You do realize that with shoplifting, they have to take money out of the actual profits that stored earn, as well as deducting it from the paychecks of the workers, to pay for replacement products right? What damage does pirating do besides make people not want go to the theaters when they can download it off a website? No workers’ wages are truly damaged by this. Don’t even try to act like you care if these movies a little but amount of money, in comparison to what it’s going to make. If you want to play it this way, then stop downloading music off YouTube or anything else because you’re clearly pirating and artists music by not paying to listen to it. Seriously, @ilikechildren–fried was right, all you do is call people retards when they disagree with you. How do you function in the real world when you act like that?

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

I see you can’t fucking read either. That’s why I called her a fucking retard. But I don’t expect the shoplifting fandom to read anything that tells them they’re wrong.

I already explained all of this several times which you neglected to read because it harms your narrative.

[electromistress]

Protip:

Now, don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s perfectly fine to be a filthy pirate, ARRR, but it’s certainly not the same as shoplifting, because you’re not taking a physical item. 

People pirate for many reasons. A very common one, in video games industry for instance, is that most companies completely stopped making demo versions of their games, and people don’t want to spend 60 bucks on a game that might suck balls, without getting to even try it first. So they pirate the game, and if they like it, they buy it. 

In the anime business, up until recently, most of the anime series were completely unavailable outside of Japan, which gave birth to the huge fansubbing community, and people pirated because there was no other way for them for them to watch the series. Nowadays, if you’re in the US, CrunchyRoll has almost everything, but if you live in some Eastern Europe shithole, the only way to watch anime is still pirating, because even if we have CR, our version of the site only has a very small number of titles. And this isn’t lost money for the authors- these people who start by pirating anime, end up buying merch and figurines online, doing cosplay and many other things, all of which bring money to the authors and increase the show’s popularity. 

Which brings me to my main point: artists and companies can actually profit from piracy. It depends on a number of factors, but basically the idea is as following: most people who pirate are the ones who don’t value the thing enough to buy it in the first place, so effectively, they don’t count as lost sales. However, once they pirate the thing, and if they enjoy it, they will talk about it, with their friends and on social networks, raising its populartiy. This, in turn, will encourage some people who weren’t interested in the thing before, to go out and buy it. So in the end, the company earned more money than it would without piracy. 

This is also why often, game devs who really believe in their product, release it without DRM, making it extremely easy to pirate. But, if the product is actually good, piracy will help it become more popular, which will result in increased sales. 

Not to mention, platforms such as Steam or Netflix have drastically reduced piracy because they gave people fast, easy access to things they want to play and watch. And that’s because piracy often isn’t about money, it’s about people being too lazy to go to the store and purchase a stupid DVD. Like who even uses optical disks nowadays? Some laptops don’t even have a reader for them!

So in short, no, piracy is not the same as shoplifting, and that’s a ridiculous comparison.

Further reading:

Promotional Piracy

Converting Pirates Without Cannibalizing Purchasers: The Impact of Digital Distribution on Physical Sales and Internet Piracy

[myragewillendworlds]

Long as fuck, but this holds about every argument on why pirating is not the same as shoplifting.

With shoplifting, you don’t just lose out on a sale, you lose out on the ability to sell the item because it was taken. That costs money.

With piracy, you lose out on a possible sale, but you can still continue to sell the item to people who do want it in exchange for money. And I say possible sale, because the majority of pirates do not want the product enough to pay money for it, meaning that whether or not they copy the item, they would never have given you money either way. You lose nothing in that situation.

The parties most offended and hurt by piracy have always been large companies who refused to go with the times, and charge too much for DVDs and the like. Companies like Netflix and Steam, that understood people’s changing desires, are doing quite well, and prove that people are willing to pay for these products.

[crazo3077archive]

I don’t have any robust comments, but when not wanting to buy a newly released film was mentioned, why did I not see a mention of services like Redbox or even the local library? Like there are plenty of things it doesn’t apply to, but libraries have become like a free movie rental service.

[the-darkest-of-souls]

I guess by renting a movie from the library your stealing

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

No dumb ass they pay for that shit

[notawiltingflower]

I also used MS Paint to make a stupid point! And, just like counterfeiting, copying something that doesn’t belong to you via downloading hurts nobody! Because you’re only copying it.

People can still get real money if they want, it doesn’t take away from the money that already exists.

Just like if someone is selling their art, downloading it and printing it off instead of paying them for it. You aren’t taking their art away from them, they still have it, they can still get money for it. I mean, sure maybe when everyone starts doing that the artist wont be able to afford the supplies that selling the art went to buying, and have to stop making the art, but I can’t imagine how that would apply to movies or music.

Musicians and the Movie Industry don’t need money to keep producing their music and movies. Just because I can calculate a loss of over 300k on the new Cap movie just on the first page of Pirate Bay, doesn’t mean that (times the rest of the pages and other sites and sources) could possibly effect the studios budget, and ability to bankroll the next movie.

And even if it could, they could just copy some money! That is also just copying something and effecting nobody! You can’t effect anything as long as you just don’t steal the original thing.

:) i r a Tumblr genious now

[14085089042]

mod roadhog, you realize that is THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT that shoplifters use right? what you steal is also not a necessity

Yeah, but I’m not taking the object other people can buy. It’s a copy, and others can by the original.

Again, not justifying.

- mod Roadhog

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

except that there is a loss of money and potential profits. it’s no different. it’s still hypocrisy.

if you download say one movie (except it’s like chips, you cant just steal one) thats one ticket sale gone, that’s also one dvd/blu-ray sale gone.

and yeah if one person downloaded only one movie ever it’d be a drop of water in an ocean. except it’s not one person. it’s a shitload of people stealing a shitload of movies all the time. so what can a theater do when hardly anyone is coming to the movies and they have to pay so many employees? the same thing sephora does. they start firing people. same with places like gamestop and best buy.

see you think you’re stealing from the rich (which still isnt morally right) but just like shoplifters you’re stealing from the retail workers everyone pretends to care about. maybe that teen who just got fired because of you and your other cronies stealing was saving up to move out of an abusive home, or support their kind yet sickly parents. or hell even just because they wanted to have some spending money.

you shouldn’t have to justify telling people not to fucking steal anything.

[thesociaijusticecourier-deactiv]

Nah - physical products are not the same as a bootlegged digital copy. If you could “download” bootlegged copies of makeup and clothes I would literally not give a single shit about “lifters”. Stealing a physical product from a shop puts someone working in that shop at risk, downloading a digital copy of a movie puts only you at risk.

A download for a bootlegged movie or game cannot be equated to a lost sale because the person downloading it would most likely never have paid for it in the first place. More to the point, those that HAVE paid to see a movie in theaters then went home to download it so they could watch it again because they liked it are exempt from your logic, here.

I guess I just don’t agree that lifter blogs are even remotely in the the same realm as pirating digital media.

[thewaterbearofwisteria-deactiva]

And with that kind of logic you could call all second hand sales of Video games and movies theft as well, because no money goes back to the original creators. 

[jennytheundying-deactivated2017]

me: “stealing is wrong” yall: “yes!!…unless we do it! cause fuck you!!!”

[notawiltingflower]

Lets try to make this super simple.

Say a movie costs 10$. 100 people want to see it 100 people buy the dvd/blu-ray Creators get 1000$

A movie costs 10$ 100 people want to see it 1 person buys it 99 people download it from them Creators get 10$ Creators lose 990$

The exact same thing applies to the mythical ‘downloadable makeup’ scenario. If a makeup company needs to sell 100 bottles to make a profit and continue their business, and only one is sold and then replicated for free, that company would fold.

Also, going to see a movie is also not the same as buying a movie. A movie ticket is split up, the theater gets portions of it, distribution companies, the people who make the film the theater uses etc. (x)

By seeing it at the theater and then buying the movie, you aren’t paying them twice, you’re paying them varying amounts that all go toward actors salary’s, production costs, promotion, all the expenses of distributing it to theaters i the first place, and so on.

If you halve their revenue because you feel that since you’ve seen it once, you’re now entitled to it, the movies (or music, art, comics) aren’t going to be able to sustain themselves, and we wont have them anymore.

Its the same concept as “I paid to get into the museum and look at that art, I shouldn’t have to pay for the prints of it they’re selling as I have already seen it”. The admission price and the print price all go to different places, that allow the artist to show their work there, for you to go see it, for them to pay the bills, and for them to keep creating things you enjoy.

Seeing a movie at the theater does not entitle you to it.

If you take something that you’re suppose to pay for, and you are depriving the creator and everyone they work with money, its theft. Thats why its called “theft”.

Stealing from a store, regardless of who it effects, is taking something you’re suppose to pay for and didn’t, and thats theft. Downloading a movie, regardless of who it effects, is taking something you’re suppose to pay for, and thats theft. Thats why theres a personal risk downloading shit, because it isnt legal.

In the end, you can debate which you think is worse, you can justify doing it, but there is no debate that it is theft. You’re taking something you were suppose to pay for, and didn’t pay for. You are stealing.

I’m not saying ‘dont do it’, im not saying I dont have half a dozen things downloading right now myself. But Im sure as shit not going to say Im justified and doing nothing wrong.

[jennytheundying-deactivated2017]

@thesocialjusticecourier since bad words make your people cry. Here’s someone nicer. Of Course facts still don’t matter to you

[thesociaijusticecourier-deactiv]

XD bitch get bent I’m out of this conversation. I don’t continue speaking to people who talk to others like pieces of shit - in none of my responses to any of this ridiculous drama was I at all disrespectful to you and you have been nothing but an edgelord brat since jump on this subject. Whether you’re right or wrong is no longer relevant because your tone and the way you’ve handled this has completely invalidated you as someone worthy of holding a conversation or debate with.

Again, something you’re really starting to be known for. It’s not a great reputation to have, you should think about cooling off and not behaving like this. People are allowed to disagree with you, or are you of the SJW mindset now that all those who disagree are stupid, evil, etc. etc. etc.

Jesus Jenny get your fucking shit together girl.

[notawiltingflower]

“People are allowed to disagree with you, or are you of the SJW mindset now that all those who disagree are stupid, evil, etc. etc. etc. “

Copying, distributing, or downloading copy written material is illegal.

If you download music/movies/tv shows/comics/books off file-sharing sites, you are committing theft.

That isn’t an opinion. Thats fact. If you said to judge “its not the same as stealing from a store”, when he doesn’t agree it wouldn't make him a SJW it would make him right.

Once again, it isn't a matter of which you think is worse, its the fact that theft from a store and theft via piracy are legally both theft. The hypocrisy is defending one over the other. Because thats a matter of opinion, while at its core, the facts remain that both are theft.

E.g: You can argue that cocaine isn’t as bad a meth, but if you decry anyone who uses meth as criminals and drug addicts while you have coke smeared on your face, you would be a hypocrite.

And  yes, it does put peoples jobs at risk. The people who run or work at movie theaters, because people are just downloading the movies. The people who produce the film. Everyone involved in the movie from the lighting guys to the directors, if they cant afford to make the movies anymore they wont be hiring anyone to work on them. The people who produce the dvds, the people who produce the art for the covers.

Just because you can’t look one particular employee in the face and know the one exact person who’ll be in shit if you take something on their watch, it doesn’t mean nobodys losing anything.

When you say its not the same as “thousands, of dollars worth of merchandise from a local store”;

I just put Captain America Civil War into Pirate Bay.

The first page shows a total of 13,633 downloads.

A copy of the Blu-Ray is $23.00

Thats $314,249.00 worth of profit potentially lost. On one page, of one torrent site.

That effects people. Just because it isnt a small local store, and a minimum wage employee, doesn’t mean its ok. “Its only 99c” doesn’t make it ok, no more than “its only 22$” clearly isn’t true.

The problem with piracy is that each person can justify it on an individual level. *I* am only costing them 99c. But its not the same as one or two people stealing a single 99c gumball out of a stock of 100. Its millions of people stealing from an unlimited stock.

A store might lose a thousand dollars in one day, but 300k can be lost in the same amount of time through piracy.

But either way, the point of this is not to determine which is worse, its simply to say that both are theft. Thats not an opinion, its law. And to do one, while justifying it, and then decrying someone for justifying doing the other, is hypocritical.

[14085089042]

mod roadhog, you realize that is THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT that shoplifters use right? what you steal is also not a necessity

Yeah, but I’m not taking the object other people can buy. It’s a copy, and others can by the original.

Again, not justifying.

- mod Roadhog

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

except that there is a loss of money and potential profits. it’s no different. it’s still hypocrisy.

if you download say one movie (except it’s like chips, you cant just steal one) thats one ticket sale gone, that’s also one dvd/blu-ray sale gone.

and yeah if one person downloaded only one movie ever it’d be a drop of water in an ocean. except it’s not one person. it’s a shitload of people stealing a shitload of movies all the time. so what can a theater do when hardly anyone is coming to the movies and they have to pay so many employees? the same thing sephora does. they start firing people. same with places like gamestop and best buy.

see you think you’re stealing from the rich (which still isnt morally right) but just like shoplifters you’re stealing from the retail workers everyone pretends to care about. maybe that teen who just got fired because of you and your other cronies stealing was saving up to move out of an abusive home, or support their kind yet sickly parents. or hell even just because they wanted to have some spending money.

you shouldn’t have to justify telling people not to fucking steal anything.

[thesociaijusticecourier-deactiv]

Nah - physical products are not the same as a bootlegged digital copy. If you could “download” bootlegged copies of makeup and clothes I would literally not give a single shit about “lifters”. Stealing a physical product from a shop puts someone working in that shop at risk, downloading a digital copy of a movie puts only you at risk.

A download for a bootlegged movie or game cannot be equated to a lost sale because the person downloading it would most likely never have paid for it in the first place. More to the point, those that HAVE paid to see a movie in theaters then went home to download it so they could watch it again because they liked it are exempt from your logic, here.

I guess I just don’t agree that lifter blogs are even remotely in the the same realm as pirating digital media.

[thewaterbearofwisteria-deactiva]

And with that kind of logic you could call all second hand sales of Video games and movies theft as well, because no money goes back to the original creators. 

[jennytheundying-deactivated2017]

me: “stealing is wrong” yall: “yes!!…unless we do it! cause fuck you!!!”

[notawiltingflower]

Lets try to make this super simple.

Say a movie costs 10$. 100 people want to see it 100 people buy the dvd/blu-ray Creators get 1000$

A movie costs 10$ 100 people want to see it 1 person buys it 99 people download it from them Creators get 10$ Creators lose 990$

The exact same thing applies to the mythical ‘downloadable makeup’ scenario. If a makeup company needs to sell 100 bottles to make a profit and continue their business, and only one is sold and then replicated for free, that company would fold.

Also, going to see a movie is also not the same as buying a movie. A movie ticket is split up, the theater gets portions of it, distribution companies, the people who make the film the theater uses etc. (x)

By seeing it at the theater and then buying the movie, you aren't paying them twice, you’re paying them varying amounts that all go toward actors salary's, production costs, promotion, all the expenses of distributing it to theaters i the first place, and so on.

If you halve their revenue because you feel that since you’ve seen it once, you’re now entitled to it, the movies (or music, art, comics) aren’t going to be able to sustain themselves, and we wont have them anymore.

Its the same concept as “I paid to get into the museum and look at that art, I shouldn’t have to pay for the prints of it they’re selling as I have already seen it”. The admission price and the print price all go to different places, that allow the artist to show their work there, for you to go see it, for them to pay the bills, and for them to keep creating things you enjoy.

Seeing a movie at the theater does not entitle you to it.

If you take something that you’re suppose to pay for, and you are depriving the creator and everyone they work with money, its theft. Thats why its called “theft”.

Stealing from a store, regardless of who it effects, is taking something you’re suppose to pay for and didn’t, and thats theft. Downloading a movie, regardless of who it effects, is taking something you’re suppose to pay for, and thats theft. Thats why theres a personal risk downloading shit, because it isnt legal.

In the end, you can debate which you think is worse, you can justify doing it, but there is no debate that it is theft. You’re taking something you were suppose to pay for, and didn’t pay for. You are stealing.

I’m not saying ‘dont do it’, im not saying I dont have half a dozen things downloading right now myself. But Im sure as shit not going to say Im justified and doing nothing wrong.

[qimick-deactivated20161125]

please enlighten me as to how non-binary people affect/offend you personally? why do you consider it your business to police how people live their lives, and why do you feel the need to bully people? why are you so insecure in your need for validation and attention that you would stoop as low as telling people to kill themselves because they have a different opinion to yours? just genuinely curious as to why you continuously invalidate and harass individuals on this site xx

You know what, fuck it. Most of my followers can probably guess, and most of my friends already know. But I myself am trans. I myself have an abusive and transphobic father who fights PROFESSIONALS because he’s so desperate to say I’m not a real man. I have a terrible situation I would give ANYTHING to not have. I would rather live on the fucking streets with nothing but the clothes on my back, if I could only be a cis male. I am ashamed to be trans, I hate being like this it’s shit man. I didn’t want to come out to the public but I’m sick of you bitches pretending you hurt no one. You hurt people. You hurt ME.Aight?I call out these people because I would rather deal with hundreds like my dad, who try to say I’m just retarded, or faking, than to deal with one more of you disgusting people that pretend you’re something that DOESNT FUCKING EXIST. I call you out because you harm me more than anyone else ever has, you harm my trans friends every day, you harm all of us. We already aren’t taken seriously and you make us look like fucking jokes. Aight?I refer to myself as a transsexual cause you’ve even changed the fucking definition Ito a joke. I call myself transgender and I’m seen as one of you girls. That’s not what trans is. That’s never been what trans is. Never will be either.How come biology and facts goes out the window when you want shit huh?Okay It’s not a matter of wanting attention, or validation, it’s a matter of extreme personal hurt because I can’t believe there are people that actually exist out there, who are so desperate to lie and pretend they’re special they will throw us under the bus. There are two sexes, and two genders. You are male or female NOTHING else. If you’re trans, I am so fucking sorry. I know what it’s like, I know that it’s hell, we know that no one would ever choose to be trans.No one would ever choose this.No one.

So you can shove your disgusting opinions down your throat and fuck off, I am sick of you transphobes making a serious birth defect and medical condition, seem like a fucking joke, because “"muh social constructs”“ ”“muh victimhood”“ ”“muh attention”“It’s not fun, it’s not trendy, it’s not anything anyone would choose.Gender is 100% biological. We just happen to be a little fucked up.

Sincerely, a REAL trans male.

(PS: Show me where I’ve EVER told someone to kill themselves. Because hint, I haven’t.)

[notawiltingflower]

How does it effect transgenders? Lets see...

You know what doesn’t help? While trying to get people to take us seriously, having a bunch of people demanding to be called “Xirself” today, unlike like yesterday when they were feeling like a Jalself”, while three other people insists they’re just like trans people, except they have a body of a human and the brain of a dragon, fairy or Nebulon the Great from Space Sector 4635, respectively. So many people are still on the fence with how they feel, and these TransTrenders make them think we’re delusional.

They think all these Kin and Trenders are fucking batshit, faking it for attention, and whos intelligence is the embodiment of  Nik Cage in Face/Off. And we get lumped in with them. Every FSDFHGWRVMHG+ gender/sexuality out there is pushing our movement back a step, and insuring that people think we’re so amazingly stupid.

>When starting Hormones and the path to surgery, you have to go through rigorous psychological testing, because they have to be very sure the patient is actually Transgender before they start administrating drugs to permanently change your body, and have body parts added or removed.

I can’t tell you how many people, myself included, I have talked to or read posts by, talking about how their psychologist didn’t take them seriously until they mentioned dysphoria. For me, due to mental issues (social anxiety disorder, im on a disability pension, am constantly thinking everyone near me is looking at me and judging me. Luckily, I believe The Powers That Be gave me a massive ego.

I can manage crowded areas if I just allow myself to freak out, assume everyones looking at me, dig in deep, and convince myself that, psssh ,   ...cause I And yea, they’re so obviously over there whispering about me *logical brain: they’re buying S’mores* I guess they’re talking about how great I look. *logicl brain: jfc tone it down. ),

I just can’t do top-surgery, Mind you Id give anything for those issues not to exist so I could. I don’t want to take hormones because (just like some cismen do) I have a serious aversion to body hair, all that would do would make me have to work twice as hard to get rid of it. As for the voice deepening, what I want is to get the correct body parts, besides the fact that to get a deeper voice Id have to take the HRT and deal with all the mess, but if having no boobs would effect my anxiety and paranoia, so would having an extra deep voice.

So my aesthetic, right. My ‘fashion’ is very ‘girly’. unfortunately a lot of psychologists think “live a year as a man” to step up to text level, they assume that means getting a brush cut, buying cargo-pants in bulk, not shaving anything.

Ive been to three psychologists over this, each one only heard “i dont want HRT, I dont want my breasts removed, and I enjoy my aesthetic. After the first abysmal sessions of each, I didn’t bother to come back.

And you know why they treated me like that? Because they get so many TransTrenders going in who’re just looking to be diagnosed. Whos got two thumbs and can finally move something her the Self dx? list THIS girl! ooooh yeaaaa this is going RIGHT into my Tumblr blog description!“

Anyway >.> I can’t even imagine the psychologists that specialize in this field. I feel bad them, I honestly do

9:am - so im 1/4th male and 3/4s female, can i get that in writing? 10am - and then, if you can believe it, then she said its not possible for a man to identify as a woman only when he’s cosplaying fictional characters. like, no i dont dress like a girl, im a guy? Except when I have to pick costume from pre-existing media, I am a woman. 11am- i finally did it! today after school i finally told my mom i have DID! Well, Pinkie Pie did. Noon - Lunch *eats silently, staring off into the air, eyes dead. They’ve been dead a long time... 12pm - i was starving don’t you understand? i thought i was going to die. i had to swallow her wedding ring, Dragons cant live on human food! shes suppose to be my mom, if she really cared about me should have just given the ring to me. its not my fault i never asked to be a dragon 1pm - hey there, how you doin? oh! i am so sorry *shakes head* sorry i was a woman just then, i have a totally different personality then. i switched back to male, probably easier to talk to me that way 2pm - ummm no? theres way more than two genders, ive done my homework. ok but stop telling me im wrong, you’re being very offensive....Really? because clownfish can switch its gender at will so its natural. 3pm - i have to break up with girlfriend, i realized im a man. no i dont want surgery i like my boobs and vagina. anyway, that would mean shes straight now, if shes a cisgirl and im a transman. i just cant trust straight people ya know? our anniversary? ummm 10 years in December, why? 4:pm - Break. *attending nurse passes the doctors office, where he sat by the solitary light of a desklamp, curtains drawn. he pours two more fingers of whiskey. she shook her head sadly 5:pm - stop laughing! it wasn't a joke im serious, im a Redwood Alpine tree! are...are you drunk???

None of their reasons are “i despratly want to but I cant”, its “i definitely like my body”, because they’re not fucking trans.

The amount of TransTrenders that waste their time I can completely understand why they latched onto declining HRT and top-surgery, they probably barley registered my explanation, got used to zoning snowflakes out.

Because of TransfuckingTrenders, its now twice as hard to transition, because the doctors have to be even more careful now that so many of these people come in, many of whom would actually take the HRT to continue on with the charade.

Any chance I have of transitioning any time in the foreseeable future without spending a year dressed in clothes I fucking hate and maintaining a buzzcut would be if those fucktards stopped going to therapists and saying shit like “well i feel that gender is less of a scientific, and more of a transcendental magic”.

>Actual transgender people who suffer from dysphoria and *gasp* go by the scientists and doctors who study it >A pile of cunt-canoes, cis cunt-canoes at that, start calling actual literal transgenders “TruScum”. In their own community. You guys made the word so wide spread, that Ive heard someone, without any malice, will casually drop ‘TruScum’, because its the only term we have for “transgenders that think being transgender is should be based on being transgender”

But heres the thing. You have spread a word calling actual transgender “true scum”. Everyone types that, even in defense of TruScum will use that word. The TransTrender community managed to get nearly everyone on this site to casually refer to a transgender person as “True Scum”.

[notawiltingflower]

I'm sick of LesScums telling me that I'm not a lesbian because I'm not attracted to women???

Like, who gives you the right to gatekeep? Why are you constantly trying to validate themselves by policing us LesTrenders?

Im sorry to have to tell you guys this, but theres more than one definition of lesbian. Just because my opinion on what lesbianism means is different than yours, doesn’t give you the right to attack me or invalidate my sexuality. Its literally none of your business??? You don’t even know me, stop acting like you know my sexuality better than I do lmfao

I’ve been told I shouldn’t be allowed in lesbian safe spaces, that I can’t have opinions on lesbian topics, even that Im lesphobic???? Like??? Im a lesbian??? how can I be??? lesphobic???? lololololol what???

And nobody better post the dictionary definition of lesbianism, because Ive read numerous studies on this by Alternative Medicalist’s, literally hundreds of titles of clickbait articles, an entire article about Male-Attracted-Lesbians that were part of society 3000 years ago, and I have my own personal feelings. 

Like, sorry sweeties, if your only proof that lesbians have to be attracted to women is the dictionary, I can tell you haven’t done your homework lol. You don’t probably don’t even care about researching it, cause you might actually learn something and not be able to pick on us because you’re insecure?

So like, maybe stop bullying other lesbians that don’t fit your idea of what lesbianism is? Like, um...how does that even effect you?? Lesbianism is a spectrum?? You can be attracted to women, thats cool, but I'm not. It dpoesn’t make me any less of a lesbian. Holy fuck who gave you the right to say you have to be attracted to women to be a lesbian?

Seriously, someone please enlighten me as to how lesbians who aren’t attracted to women effects/offends you guys personally. Im genuinely curious as to why you continuously invalidate and harass individuals like me on this site.

(@qimick)

______________

Ok, did that all sound so fucking stupid you wanted to physically vomit? As if your body was trying to purge any possible idiocy you might have ingested while reading that?

Good. Now replace “lesbian/lesbianism” with “transgender/transgenderism” and “not attracted to women” with “don’t have body dysphoria”. Because that? Right up there? Thats how you TransTrenders sound. You’re demanding medical science be ignored so you can claim wearing a baggy tshirt and cargo pants one day, and a frilly sun-dress the next, makes you a special 15th gender.

>The definition of Transgenderism is the desire to transition int opposite gender as your physical body fueled by gender dysphoria. You cant be transgender if you are happy with your physical gender and have no gender dysphoria. >The definition of Lesbianism is a female who is attracted to other females. You can’t be a lesbian if you aren’t attracted to women.

Basically, think of it this way “does the basic definition apply to me?” If it doesn’t, than you are not that thing. Your next question should be “do I have the same schooling, knowledge, and years of experience through research as the medical professionals who wrote that definition do?” Since the answer will be ‘no’ on that one, consider that your ~feelings~ aren’t something equal in validity to the statements and findings of scientists, psychologists and medical professionals.

Saying you are something you posses none of the characteristics of, ignoring medical science because it says you’re not actually Extra~, and trying to drive actual transgender people out of their own community so you can list “blar/blurg/blopself” pronouns on your Tumblr is 100% are fucking stupid as insisting you’re a lesbian despite only being attracted to men.

The only thing worse would be if actual lesbians ended up like many of the transgender people around here; not being able to have a safe space to talk to people because they’re afraid if the ‘LesTrenders’ attacking them if they dare say they’re a lesbian attracted to women.

[libfas]

Six year old autistic child showered with bullets by black cops with ‘pattern of excessive force’, no outcry, no big media attention

Norris Greenhouse Jr. and Derrick Stafford, claimed they acted in ‘self defense’ as they emptied 18 rounds in a car they claimed tried to run them over, and had an armed driver. The cars showed no signs of being rammed into, there was no gun found in the car. There was no warrant to arrest the man they shot. The driver was hit twice while he had his hands in the air, the kid was hit five times, he died still buckled in his seat.

Stafford was involved in a 2011 incident, when he was accused of using stun gun on two people who weren’t a threat, and for breaking a teenage girl’s arm while trying to break up a fight on a school bus.

Coincidentally Greenhouse knew Mr. Fey’s fiancé and had sent him a message on social media to ‘leave her alone’. Which might or might not have contributed the harsh treatment.

Silly me for thinking police brutality actually mattered. Why oh why wouldn’t there be an outrage over this? Hmmm…

x, x

[ad-hominem-sappies-deactivated2]

This feud was with the police and the driver. This is the fault of the driver if it’s true what the police said

[notawiltingflower]

Is that...a joke? I mean, theres big bolded sentences explaining what the officers said wasn’t true on the thing you reblogged, then links to back it up.

“Stafford’s lawyer indicated that both Stafford and Greenhouse withdrew their guns after Few backed up his car and again tried to ram into the officer’s vehicle.“

Did you watch the bodycam footage? Because the video shows the police car pulling up to the car, the car not moving (the mans hands were raised and not near the wheel) and the time between the officer stopping the car, getting out, and firing the first shot is six seconds.

The officers don’t draw their guns after that happens. They pull their guns with the guys car sitting a dozen feet away. Hes nowhere near them when they park, and makes no attempt to ‘ram the car’.

The officers pull up to a parked car, with a man with his hands visibly raised, and start firing immedatly. 

We have 100% visual proof that what the police said is not true. They fired eighteen shots at that, right there, a man with his hands up in a parked car, that at no point in the six seconds it took them to park, exit their vehicle, and begin firing,  “backed up his car and tried to ram the officers vehicle”.

In fact, the "feud” has also been proven to be a lie. The officers said they presumed Few because was wanted on an outstanding warrant, and they believed he was armed.

Except “investigators stated that there was no warrant for Few's arrest prior to or after the shooting” - “As of November 8, Stafford and Greenhouse reportedly had not given a reason for attempting to pull Christopher Few's car over on the night of the shooting”.

So right there we have visual proof they lied about his actions, their actions, and their reasons for the actions. Then we have them lying about why they pulled him over in the first place.

Furthermore, the video clearly shows the officer respond with “i have no idea” when asked “did they have any weapons on them”.

On top of all this, the officers have been charged with murder.

Theres a gag-order in place, and this is still ongoing, but: “Colonel Mike Edmonson of the Louisiana State Police, who began an investigation into the shooting, has stated that the body-camera video recorded by one of the responding officers was essential to the arrests being made. Other evidence which led to the decision to charge the officers included interviews with the cooperating officers, 9-1-1 recordings, and unspecified forensic evidence.“

So we have visual evidence what they said the driver did is not true. That what they said they did is not true. Their reason for the event occurring is not true. And theres yet unknown forensic evidence, recordings, and interviews further indicating what they said is not true.

Nothing drives me more nuts than a post that says “this is what was said, here is undeniable and noninterpretable proof that is a lie”, and people responding "but if what was said is true...”

Its not! :D Thats what the links are for! So you can know that!

And if you’re going to leave a comment on a case where a 6 year old child was shot five times, heres a handy site to check out first.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

What do you call believing in something without proof?

[klubbhead]

Faith. Rape. (According to some craaazy feminists) Stupid.

Take your pick lol

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

No science lol

[klubbhead]

Science usually prooves itself.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

Nah. 60 years scientists believed in aliens 50 years scientists still believe in multiple dimensions

Not one lick of proof yet they still have faith.

So no

[klubbhead]

Keyword “usually”.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

Yet if you tell an atheist that you believe in something without proof they’ll ca you delusional.

But don’t bring up their hypocrisy. They’ll cry about aliens lol

[klubbhead]

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM MEEEEE?!!!!!

Originally posted by whiteguykarate

[anti-s0ciety]

Actually it’s theoretical impossible to be the only beings in the whole universe as its infinitive. @jetpack-jenny ? Why can I tag you?

Either way I had this conversation yesterday as well and my teacher explained that’s not a fact but it’s commonly thought among scientist.

With an infinite universe etc … We can’t be the only lives and life would be possible on other planets as well.

It’s not proven with facts but just assumed… Faith is more religious shit related.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

Actually it is highly possible that we are the only beings in the universe. People smarter than Tyson and Dawkins proved this.

There is literally no evidence to support your religious belief in aliens

[trans-shepard]

What I want to know is why you’re so dead set against this, to the point where it’s like you have a hatful vendetta over it.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

im not actually, i just know there is no proof to this whatsoever.

my problem is the hypocrisy of these well known atheists doing exactly what religious people do but calling religious people delusional for being no different from them.

i posed a simple question and not one person thought “science” yet this is what two of the most well known scientists atheists of our time do. 

faith, belief, all of it is fine.

ive said it a lot, i hate hypocrisy 

[trans-shepard]

Fair enough. I can see where you’re coming from now. I thought you where going along the lines that believing in aliens and other universes is wrong and people shouldn’t do it.

[joey-wheeler-official]

I’d like a citation or two from these “smarter people”

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

citation on what exactly?

[joey-wheeler-official]

The proof of humans being the only life in the universe. It seems like a genuinely intersting read

[the-prolefeed]

There’s water ice on comets, there’s ice on moons in our solar system, there were probably even some micro-organisms on mars and you @jetpack-jenny are telling me there’s no life anywhere else in the universe?

Frankly I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. There isn’t any proof of life off of Earth, however the statement “there is no life on Earth” is just as unsubstantiated so far. Until the universe as a whole is explored, that claim will be unsubstantiated.

[hardboiledoldman]

Based on our knowledge of the universe and the conditions needed for life on earth we can use statistical modeling to give us an idea of how often the conditions for life are found out there. It’s fair to say that if hundreds of thousands of worlds like Earth exist some probably have life.

I have never heard a scientist gnostically proclaim aliens absolutely exist, they just claim its more likely than not.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

With absolutely no proof whatsoever to back up their religious beliefs

[hardboiledoldman]

Everything you say is so absurd and counter productive I have to assume you make a job of baiting and nothing you say is actually serious.

[killin-the-machine]

Taking @jetpack-jenny seriously does a disservice to troll blogs, they can only try to be as immensely stupid as this person actually is. I find it quite ironic that you’re absolutely hung up on this idea that because scientists have a reasonable predictions that they admit could be flawed but choose to put at least some stock into based on general observation of organic chemistry and molecular biology/ quantum physics (respectively) with high probability to both theories (using the layman term here) that it’s somehow the same as your faith. Interesting. So a general assumption based on collected data and scientific observation while maintaining no absolute certainty is the same as blindly believing that not only is there a god but he is directly concerned with everything you do and he has a list of rules to follow, with terms and conditions. Forgive me for sounding incredulous here but how for even a single second in that microscopic brain of yours could you be that wholly disingenuous? And you claim this “hypocrisy” when an atheist is willing to make any assumption, even with some credibility backing it, but I highly doubt you have even close to the same standard for religious people. You claim that we walk around with the same narcissistic gnostic view on these subjects in a shoddy attempt to make your own shit stink less. Multiverse theory is fairly strong on its own, once you read up on the subject. As far as aliens are concerned, there’s already been proof of foreign microorganisms. Both of these things, while not entirely proved with 100% certainty, are far far more within reason than a sky genie that grants wishes to those that stroke his ego the longest

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

im not a troll

im not stupid

nothing i said was stupid

if it was you would be able to prove me wrong, but you’d have to prove the existence of aliens to do that  

there is no reasonable prediction, there is no proof whatsoever that aliens eist

i make the same standard for everyone actually and i find people like tyson and dawkins the two biggest delusional fuckwads in the news today constantly shits on religion.

ive never seen a book written by a priest calling scientists delusional for having faith in their unproven beliefs 

and the same reason you believe in made up aliens as a possibility is why discounting the existence of a god makes you a fucking hypocrite makes you just as delusional as you think religious people are.

you have no fucking proof whatsoever to support your claim.

but hey, tell me when you find some. i would love to hear about it

[killin-the-machine]

Keep in mind this person tagged this with “atheism is the new religion”. Yes in the same way abstinence is a sex position. And ok, you aren’t a troll, but continuing with this line of rhetoric, you’re undeniably stupid on this issue. I hate to reiterate but it seems your already meek processor is on the back burner. The difference between an assumption based on collective knowledge that you are NOT 100% certain on and a gnostic belief system like religion is the assertion of absolute knowledge/certainty. And once again, yes, we do not have 100% proof of alien life being able to develop, but the circumstances according to our current understanding of scientific data for life existing elsewhere is still highly probable. https://www.yahoo.com/news/aliens-exist-heres-scientists-life-125700484.html There’s something to read on the subject, but I’m guessing you’ll continue to be an impudent child about the subject because “it’s not absolutely without a doubt confirmed guizz”. And who are you trying to fool with this false equivalency? Because it’s one thing to take a safe assumption and know you could be wrong and another to adamantly deny any sort of fact in place of belief. In fact the greatest irony here is that your argument is by far more presuppositional than the scientists you try to misrepresent. You choose to say because we don’t have anything but evidence through natural observation and microbial fossils that it’s still 100% not a thing at all and has zero precedent because there isn’t a little green man telling you how faulty your logic is. And while we’re at it, no, I don’t have to prove aliens for sure exist (even though evidence of microorganisms already exists, I’m guessing you mean “intelligent” life), and neither do the scientists unless they absolutely 100% say that it has to. Find one goddamn scientist that takes it to religious gnosticism and your impotent brain will have managed to make even something remotely standing near a point. Oh and by the way, never been a fan of you, but this sort of petty half assed button pushing is low even for you. Keep thinking that the holier than thou attitude will save the faulty reasoning.

[topographicocean]

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

this WAS a post about hypocrisy, but it’s turned into atheists crying about their religion 

[thedarkdeliverer]

Well I believe there was bacteria that was native to the moon that was discovered recently, so technically aliens exist.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

proof?

also i never said i didn’t believe in aliens 

[thedarkdeliverer]

Idk I just remember some Stephen Hawkings shit or whatever, might not have been real, I’m like 60% sure.

[hey-there-nutlet-deactivated201]

I mean if you want to prove that extraterrestrial life doesn’t exist when we’ve found evidence of previously existing bacteria on Mars, go right on ahead.

[notawiltingflower]

@giratinium You may be the final fucking straw.

That link. That fucking link. Is from 1996. The very first sentence says “evidence that strongly suggests“. So right off the bat that fucking thing, from 1996, is only fucking suggesting it might be bacteria.

I cant believe Im saying this, again, again on this freaking thread to another one of theses abomination of a responses, but here we flipping go

NASA: “Several different chemicals and molecular structures were exciting because they looked similar to byproducts of life on Earth. However, these chemicals and structures can also be created without life. Some are even present in deep space on comets, and scientists do not think that they came from Martian life anymore.“

For the love of everything that is good and holy in this universe, if you’re going to state something as fact, fuuuucking read below the title of the articles. If something is from 1996 and its not been proven, find out whats happened since.

@hellfireblunderbuss  when all these highly trained professionals say they’re still looking for proof of alien life, do you think they missed the discovery of alien life?

You believe they found bacteria on the moon. You cant be certain. But you’re certain. You don’t need to post any link, you’re fairly sure you believe you heard about that happening.

I googled “bacteria on the moon” and all I got was mistaken contamination during the Apollo 12 mission. (x)

Id ask you to find any sort of citation to back up the statement that “technically aliens exists”, because someone should really send it to NASA as the entire scientific community must have missed that discovery, but I don’t think my sanity can stand one more link to a page titled “bacteria found on the moon” that nobody bothers to read before posting and Ill have to quote the actual article back to you when it says nothing has been proven.

ALIEN LIFE IN ANY FORM HAS NOT BEEN DISCOVERED.

We know this because NASA fucking says so. There is no link on Google or something you think you heard maybe that will say it has been, because NASA would have heard about that.

"I think we're going to have strong indications of life beyond Earth within a decade, and I think we're going to have definitive evidence within 20 to 30 years," NASA chief scientist Ellen Stofan said Tuesday (April 7) during a panel discussion that focused on the space agency's efforts to search for habitable worlds and alien life. (x)

That was not written 20-30 years ago, it was written last year. Unless Google is hushing up moon bacteria discovered between April 7th 2015 and today, WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ALIEN LIFE.

At this point, ya’ll aren’t saying “I’m right” you’re saying “I’m right and NASA scientists are wrong."

How, in the name of sweet Scully, is it some kind of absolute impossibility to get anyone here to read anything they cite.

I swear to shit, every single citation of evidence on this post had been like reading someone say “Grapes of Wrath is about extremely angry berries” and citing a picture of the front cover of the book. No 8D! Content follows titles. You’re suppose to read that. That is suppose to be what you base your knowledge on.

[notawiltingflower]

Hermione in the Friendzone

I always fucking hated Hermione’s attitude in the 4th and 6th books toward Ron.

Like, the Yuleball thing. Up until then, she treated Harry and Rom equally. She didn’t make any distinct impression that she felt differently toward Ron than Harry. And both of them treated her generally the same.

So I never got how it was fair that she was mad at him for not asking her to the ball. She gave him no overt indication she was interested in him, so why would he risk ruining the friendship? And why would she think he, whos shown no overt indication he was interested in her, would ask her? Because...she wanted him to?

She got offended that he didn’t assume she already had a date, although logically I would think if my best friend who I spent all my free time with got a date to the biggest event of the year that Im constantly talking about, my friend would mention it. If they hadn’t I wouldn't assume they got a date and just for some unknown reason didn’t tell me.

And, for some reason, it was his job to ask her. She wanted to go with him, as far as she knew (there was no way she knew he was also interested in her) he regarded her as a friend, but it was up to him to ask her, and in no way should she have had to ask him. It wasn’t even a question of whether he was actually interested in her or not. She was interested in him, therefore if he didn’t ask her to the dance he was an asshole.

Like, Krum asks her to the dance, she doesn’t say no and go ask Ron. She doesn’t ask Ron at all, she agrees to go with another guy, and gets pissed that Ron didn’t ask her. While she already had a date. He was not only suppose to guess she was into him while treating him 100% the same as she did Harry, but also ask her after agreed to go with someone else.

I can’t think of a single reason she wouldn’t have told them she had a date and was going with Krum other than wanting Ron to ask in some bizarre “ha! i already have a date so there!” thing. Refusing to tell them who after that looked like some even more fucked up attempt to shock him with how awesome of a date she got. Thats....severely fucked up when you realize the only indication she gave that she wanted Ron to ask her was absolutely nothing at all. (And it wasn’t to keep everyone from finding out she was going with a celeb and bothering her, both of them would have kept it secret. It wasn't just to punish Ron for asking her ‘as a last resort’ -Harry neither in case he told Ron- because she was already keeping it a secret before he asked.)

Like, if you have two people you treat exactly the same, and you get pissed when one of them doesn’t guess A) you're into one of them, and B) its them and not the other one, you’re a goddamn whackadoodle.

  Now AFTER that, for the rest of the year, the next, and halfway through another the only evidence either of them had was her being upset he didnt ask her, and him being upset she went with Krum. Both reactions which can easily be misinterpreted as having platonic reasons (Hermione= treated like a last resort/him thinking she couldnt get a date. Ron= shes going with his sports idol, his well established jealousy over people getting attention/things he wants)

Skip to Lavender.

Again, neither of them have talked about it for about 2 years now, neither of them have given any other indications of interest.

Ron gets a girlfriend, and Hermione attacks him and refuses to speak to him.

What?

Shes had 2 years to make a move. Just because 2 years earlier he was upset for a night that she went to a dance with a famous dude, doesn’t mean his choices are A) date Hermione B) date no one ever. Without her actually telling him at all shes into him, and without him showing any sign hes into her.

No, shes into him, therefore whether hes interested in her or not, he should never date anyone ever????

And asking him to go to Slughorns party is in no way an indication of her intrest. He spends weeks bitching to high fuck he can’t go. Theres a party where you can bring a date. Harry isnt going to take him, if my best friend offered to let me be their +1 to a event Ive been vocally complaining I want to go too, Id think they were being my best friend and doing me a solid, not that they want to bone me.

Especially if I basically lived with them for several months and spent every free moment for half a year with them and the only time they slightly indicated something might be going on is two years earlier saying “you shouldn’t have asked me as a last resort”. Which I would have taken as “im offended you thought I was last resort material” not “i wanted you to ask me using a flock of doves and fireworks come look at my research on wedding china”.

She hasn’t made any moves or any further expressions of interest, so he gets a girlfriend. And she gets to attack him? Refuse to speak to him, cause massive strain on her other best friend whos pretty fucking worried about the whole “being of pure evil trying to hunt me down and kill me”, and then on top of that specifically find the one person in the whole school that would piss Ron off the most to make him jealous???

Don’t even get me started on how we’re suppose to feel like hes a total jackass to her for being egotistical and trying to make out with her and shit. Hermione literally confunded him because of horrible things she heard him saying about Ron and Ginny and he knew he was totally self absorbed. And from the way its written, he didn’t try to make out with her, they did make out. From Jackasses point of view, he was making out with a girl who asked him on a date and then made out with him when he went in for it. Why would he assume she hated him and was totally grossed out by kissing him, and only asked him out and kept sucking face with him to make someone else pissed off? Shes making out with a dude who said shit about Ginny, too, one of her best friends. I mean thats goddamn low. She gives no shits if that upsets Ginny as much as Ron they both hate him. Just as long as Ron feels like shit for not dating her like she wants.

However shitty and gross Jackass Keeper was, that guy had no idea he was on a date with someone who hated him and was making out with someone who was utterly disgusted by it, and was going around saying shitty things about him. Basically she decided because she found him to be a jackass, she could humiliate him and ditch him like trash for being exactly who she knew he was when she asked him out, as long as it helps her make her best friend feel like a pile of dogshit for not dating her.

And THEN, knowing Ron insecurity over his Quidditch abilities, said she was only into “really good Quidditch players”. Thats right, someone she called her best friend didnt appear to reciprocate her feelings, so she publicly used his insecurities to insult and demean him. AND, knowing that shit like that could lead to him yet again questioning his skills (and if shes his best friend/into him, she has to know its not some petty ego thing, hes dealing with a lifelong inferiority complex) humiliating himself in front of the school. Possibly having an entire course of people singing about how poor he is, added in there.

What??? Listen, ok. Hermione physically attacked her best friend for not (as far as she knew) being into her, refused to speak to him, tried to start dating someone she knew he hated, and used his insecurities to make him feel like shit, and possibly humiliate himself in front of hundreds of people who will then sing abut his poverty ... to get back at him for not being interested in her (again, as far as she knew).

Basically, holy shit how is she in anyway in the right?

If you act totally platonic toward someone, who acts platonic toward you, but you are secretly into them, that is your job to pursue ask them. Your not entitled to them because you’re into them. You dont get to fucking attack them when they don’t ask you out.

And, yes, Ron WAS into her. But he didn’t expect her to ask him to the ball. He didn’t expect her to ask him to Slughorns party, he only got pissed she was going to yet another party he wasn’t invited too. He did get pissed off after Ginny said shit about her making out with Krum, but she didn’t know that.

Both of them were into eachother, neither of them let the other know, and it was up to themselves to make a move if they wanted. Neither of them had any right to get mad at the other for not guessing how they felt and making that move for them.

Like, could you fucking imagine if he set a flock of birds to attack her, leaving actual cuts all over her, when she went out with Krum or Jackass Keeper? How in any fucking reality is it ok for someone to physically attack someone and leave them covered in fucking cuts when they date someone else? Why in the fuck is it ok for her to do it, even putting it in a kids movie? Look, girls! If a you like a boy, and he asks out someone else, you cut him up and refuse to speak to him till he apologizes to you!

Basically, (from her point of view) Hermione was friendzoned and felt entitled enough to him that she believed it was ok to physically, emotionally and psychologically attack him as punishment for dating someone else, wont speak to him unless he apologies or stops seeing the other girl, and only stops being a totally horrible person to him hen he almost fucking dies.

And ya know what? When she showed up at Rons bedside, she had no clue he wasn’t still totally into Lavender. After doing all that shit to him, she actually shows up and snottily tells the girl shes been punishing him for dating that shes there because shes his friend thank you very much!

Could you, just for one second, imagine this reversed and in the real world? Two male and female platonic friends, the girl starts dating someone. The guy attacks her leaving her covered in cuts. Then he finds a girl he knows she hates and loudly says the new girl is in fact, better at the thing he knows the girl has serious anxiety issues over in an attempt to make her feel like shit about herself. Then! When oh no, shes been injured! Showing up at her bedside like he’s entitled to be there because hes got feelings for her despite what hes done, and telling her boyfriend (whos quite obviously pissed the guys there after everything the guys put his girlfriend through) that he has every right to be there.

Could you imagine anyone then using “but the girl actually had feelings for the guy” as acceptable reason to excuse the guy from doing something that left her covered in cuts?

Fucking imagine “well, he attacked her when they were teens and she got a boyfriend, then used a girl that she hated to play on her anxiety in a further attempt at revenge for not being into him, but guys, she actually WAS into him!!! Once he knew that, everything was good! Especially once she started making an effort to show him she was into him! Well, except that one time they had a fight and she left, and he ‘started punching every inch of her he could reach’ when she came back...But it was smooth sailing after that! They’re married with kids now!”

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

What do you call believing in something without proof?

[klubbhead]

Faith. Rape. (According to some craaazy feminists) Stupid.

Take your pick lol

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

No science lol

[klubbhead]

Science usually prooves itself.

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

Nah. 60 years scientists believed in aliens 50 years scientists still believe in multiple dimensions

Not one lick of proof yet they still have faith.

So no

[cheshireinthemiddle]

Actually life outside of earth has already been proven. During Earth’s forming, the entire planet was a molten ball of molten rock. Nothing could survive on it, including bacteria. However asteroids came to earth with bacteria on them once the earth got a bit cooler and began to multiply and evolve. The addition of water on the earth'earth’s surface helped. Proof of this can be found by testing rock from earth’s early formation before water began forming on the Earth’s surface, where no sign of bacteria could be found from that time period.

Those bacteria must have come from somewhere. We just don’t have the equipment to find it. Technically, all life on Earth is Alien life.

It is similar to gravity and evolution technically only being theories because there are minor exceptions and room for more research, but they are basically fact with the evidence that we do have.

[milf--coded-deactivated20170202]

^ That.

And in order to prove something is real, you must have faith in its existence so you can keep pursuing proving its existence.

[furlockhound-inactive-moved-dea]

If I recall we’ve also found fossils of very primitive life like bacteria in meteorites.  

[stuffinspace-deactivated2017100]

Prove it

[furlockhound-inactive-moved-dea]

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/150417-astrobiologists-discover-fossils-in-meteorite-fragments-confirming-extraterrestrial-life

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nasa-scientist-evidence-of-alien-life-on-meteorite/

[notawiltingflower]

LINK ONE:

“These findings aren’t a slam dunk, though. According to our in-house biologist John Hewitt, there’s a strong possibility that the fossils aren’t actually biological in nature — they simply look biological. “This is kind of like finding a Q from Scrabble floating in space; it may be worth 10 points, but finding a few Es first would be a bit more convincing,” Hewitt says. There’s also the fact that the research was published in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed journal that has come under critical scrutiny numerous times since it was established in 2009″

“One thing’s for certain, though: For this to actually become science — for Chandra Wickramasinghe’s dream of panspermia to become a reality — this work will need to be replicated by many other groups around the world. It would be very, very exciting indeed if biological fossils have been found on an extraterrestrial meteorite. It would be proof that there’s life on other planets — and essentially a guarantee that the universe is full of life. But, as always, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

Lets check up on this, see whats been said since

“In a nutshell, they don’t establish the samples they examined were actually meteorites. They don’t establish they were from the claimed meteor event over Sri Lanka in December 2012. And perhaps most telling, they don’t eliminate the possibility of contamination”

“To find out, I talked to planetary scientist Barbara Cohen, who studies meteorites at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center. She told me the data in the paper is “suggestive”, but not conclusive at all. At best it should be followed up with other tests, because it’s not hard at all to throw that test off.” (x)

LINK TWO:

“In what's sure to rekindle the debate over the question of life beyond Earth, a scientist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center says he has fossil evidence of bacterial life inside of a rare class of meteorites.”

“If he's right, Hoover may have evidence to support that theory.”

“In an accompanying comment, Rudy Schild, the journal's editor-in-chief and a member of the Harvard-Smithsonian's Center for Astrophysics, announced that the publication has sent out a "general invitation" to more than 5000 scientists to review the paper “

Well, perhaps we should follow up on that one too! I feel maybe an article announcing a possible discovery before its been properly reviewed, in 2011, might not be the best evidence

“Top NASA scientists say there is no scientific evidence to support a colleague's claim that fossils of alien microbes born in outer space had been found in meteorites on Earth.

The US space agency formally distanced itself from the paper by NASA scientist Richard Hoover” (x)

Protip for research: theres words under the article titles! Lots of them! That you should probably read! And right next to the title are a bunch of numbers commonly known as dates. If all those words under the titles say “its not yet been proven”, and the dates differ greatly from the current date,  go find new titles and words to see if its been utterly bloody disproved.