Hate is always foolish and love is always wise

Grumpy old hag hyperfixating on fictional men doing it as a distraction technique to stave off the horror of existing in a world on the brink of total collapse. Hopefully I can be sort of funny about it sometimes. 30+ Read my stuff it's over there -> ao3

[naaglaya]

Walking out of The Odyssey having enjoyed it and seeing it have rave reviews on Letterboxd and then logging onto tumblr and seeing all the criticism:

[rainbowconvection]

God I need a girlfriend. I get way too happy when the dentist tells me I'm a good girl.

[chimaerakitten]

A note to sci-fi writers:

If you need to have a big scary threat to a whole planet, go ahead. That’s great. However. Please be aware that the planet under threat does not always have to be Earth. If the characters we love have ties to a non-earth planet, threatening that planet is, in fact, sufficient. Viewers are capable of feeling the stakes when the planet is not Earth. It doesn’t have to be All About The Planet The Viewer Lives On. The Planet The Viewer Lives On is not being threatened by a space laser in real life anyway. It’s Ok if your main character from planet zebrathorax wants to pull out all the stops to defend planet zebrathorax. In fact, it’s pretty bad if you have a side character from zebrathorax and they seem weirdly ok with zebrathorax being left undefended to defend Earth. Your characters can even want to pull out all the stops for zebrathorax even if they’re not from there, since presumably they’re good people who can empathize with the zebrathoraxians. The emotional stakes are maintained.

Also. We know you’re not gonna blow up earth in this movie. We are not worried about earth. Zebrathorax is a much more legitimately suspenseful choice.

Star Trek Beyond understood this.

[fandomsandfeminism]

I think it's interesting that both Epic the Musical and the NolOdyssey make so many similar adaptional choices (omitting Nausicaa, omitting the slave girls killing, clearly having Odysseus NOT sleep with Circe, giving Odysseus a bunch of War Guilt.)

But in particular, BOTH give Eurylochus a big confrontation with Odysseus after the Scylla incident. As though this was some betrayal, that Odysseus should have gambled the entire ship instead despite being divinely warned not to, or that he should have like...told the men and let it go to a vote or something.

Which is such a *modern* idea of these power dynamics.

In the homeric poem, Odysseus is very sad about the 6 men who Scylla kills....and the crew says nothing, and they go immediately onto Helios's cattle. This is not a betrayal. This is not some moment of moral crisis. And it's certainly not a reason to challenge your kings authority.

And to be clear, I'm not saying this is a bad change. Like with the killing of the slave girls, it's part of the homeric worldview that modern audiences just do not react to the same way. The way we view authority and violence are just *different.*

But it's really interesting to see how many of the same adaptation choices the two make, while being so different in theme and tone. I think it helps us explore which changes are done for what reasons.

[a-silly-poll-side-blog-yay]

do you have some crazy family lore

yes

no

no but i know someone else's crazy family lore

results

Voting ended onJun 3

[solarifle]

"we have to accept the fact that the r word is coming back" NO WE DONTTTT NO WE DONT

[rainbowconvection]

Really have had to accept that I'm fundamentally nothing more than a contrarian.

As I teen, I was like "Fuck Agamemnon, however painful Clytemnestra made it wasn't painful enough, wish I could necromancy his ass just so I could have a go at killing him too."

Now, everyone hates him. And I'm like "Yeah, but the tragedy of having sworn a foolish oath that now binds you to do something unthinkable, it'll kill your heart to do it, but the wrath of the gods and rest of the world will be on your people if you don't," why am I sympathising with this dickhead just bc it's the less popular opinion now? lol

[poetrylesbian]

[poetrylesbian]

[rainbowconvection]

Even as one of the people who was saying Nolan ought to have done the Aeneid instead, I actually definitely DON'T want that to happen. I need the separation of Dido and Aeneas to break me. Full melodrama. Strings. Swooping camera shots. Therapy bills charged to the movie. I DON'T want "Well. Fate dictates I move on. Also, our nations are destined to be at war because of this, which shines a light on humanity's brokenness. Really makes you think. Anyway. Bye," which is what I feel I'd get.

[rainbowconvection]

It's been 2 days without world cup, and I'm just rolling round on the floor, kicking my arms and legs, and tantruming for football to come back

[maxiemumdamage]

Just FYI, one of my favorite things I learned as an Ancient Greek major in undergrad was that a lot of city-states who had contact with Egypt considered the Nubians to be the absolute peak of beauty, and adjusted their societal standards accordingly.

So Lupita Nyong’o being cast as Helen is quite possibly the most historically accurate thing in that entire film.

[the-viola-urge-to-be-cesario]

My biggest problem with The Odyssey 2026 is that it has resulted in the revival of interest in Troy 2004. Like you know it in your heart that that is not Achilles you're just doing it to piss me off at this point.

[harpertheidiot]

I saw a post like this recently so I'm making a classics version

Spin the wheel. This Greek mythological figure is trying to kill you

Spin the wheel again. This Greek mythological figure is trying to protect you

Are you surviving?

100% no, my corpse is desecrated

100% no, but I am given a proper burial

Yes, but with major injuries

Yes, but with minor injuries

100% yes, not a scratch on me

Other (explain in tags)

Voting ended onJul 21

(I know Homer and Sappho aren't mythological, I just threw them in there for fun)

[peggy-sue-reads-a-book]

I’m just saying if they did make Muppets The Iliad, they couldn’t actually depict Achilles mowing Hector down and spearing him through the throat so instead how this would look is Animal dragging a very much alive Pepe the Prawn around in circles and laughing maniacally while an uncomfortable Kermit looks at the camera and does that face where the hand inside him clenches a little.

[aeide]

HUGE day for all of us lifelong fans of spain since wednesday

[alexiaugustin]

KYLIAN MBAPPÉ GOLDEN BOOT BACK2BACK

[cleossummertimesadness]

and if i blast this for the next 24h then what???