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@spocktagon
It’s so funny how like. Spock is queer bc of the subtext, the Otherness inextricable from his character, meanwhile William Shatner was handed the straightest man of all time on paper and fumbled the bag bc he couldn’t stop giving Leonard Nimoy fuck-me eyes and now he lives in a bi Kirk hell of his own devising, forever enduring the conshatquences of his shactions
If I was in the holodeck I'd be like "computer, give me some massive honkers." This is a very cis male thing to do.
Okay fine here he is
knock knock
who's there
deez
sigh
deez who ?
deez are the voyages of the starship enterprise
Some fake ads for the Neocities Star Trek fansite I've been working on :)
get yourself a Man who looks at you Like jim does at spock
He loves his wife Dearly .
Starfleet Science/Medical’s version of the Kobayashi Maru is the Hypospray Maru. You’re left in a room containing just a random hypospray, told its use has the potential to stop someone’s suffering but it’s never been tried before, and if you inject it into yourself to see what it does, you’re officially crazy enough to lead a department.
I’m just picturing a timed test situation though where the cadets are supposed to deduce and delegate resources to figure out what’s in the hypospray.
Then Bones just rolls in, injects himself immediately, tests his own blood, and calls it a day.
To this day, he holds the record for fastest time completing the test.
#bones is the Jim Kirk of the medical world
That Fucking Tag oh my god
okay but for a true parallel Bones would have to be the first person to try that. like. can you imagine?
proctor: “W….why the fuck did you inject yourself?!”
doctor leonard horatio “bones” mccoy: “Well we were on a time limit and we wouldn’t know if it worked until it went to human trials, so…”
proctor: “And it didn’t occur to you to inform the rest of the group of your thought process? Maybe see if anyone had any other ideas or select a test subject?”
bones: “Nah they would’ve stopped me or wasted time discussing it. This was faster.”
proctor: “And if you died?!”
bones: “Eh, I could’ve fixed it in time. And I left notes, so. No biggie.”
Bones passes with flying colors and a therapy referral for either egoism or suicidal depression.
… Now I want to know what the Vulcan Science Academy’s version of the Kobyashi Maru is, and if/how Spock Kirked his way out of that
I think Spock’s version of beating the Vulcan Science Academy’s version of the Kobayashi Maru was refusing to go to the Vulcan Science Academy.
I don’t really see McCoy doing that at all I’m afraid. He’s a grouchy and intolerant of a whole bunch of things, but medical ethics and safety protocols are not among them. Kelvinverse!McCoy might be capable of slamming a mystery hypospray. Maybe. If he’s just had a particularly stressful encounter with the ex and a shitty day and is just like “Fuck it, dying is probably an improvement”. But even then Mr “Space is dark and vast and wants to kill you in countless terrifying ways” doesn’t strike me as being that rash because who else is going to save Jim Kirk’s gonzo ass this time?
I wrote this post in the first place because TOS McCoy canonically tested a mystery hypospray (that he helped create but couldn’t check via lab equipment) on himself in the episode Miri:
MCCOY: We can’t wait for those communicators any longer.
SPOCK: We must. The vaccine could be fatal.
MCCOY: The disease certainly is. How long do we have left? Hours, minutes? How much longer do you want to wait?
SPOCK: Bickering is pointless. I’ll check on the Captain’s progress.
McCoy is absolutely that rash when it comes to saving others’ lives. He just happens to hang out on a ship where he still looks measured and sane in comparison.
Okay okay okay. Usually I would just move on, but people keep commenting on this post with takes like this. These takes are so prevalent, and such a fundamental misunderstanding of McCoy’s character, probably inspired by the fanon interpretation of Bones as a grumpy stick-in-the-mud who only opposes Kirk and Spock, that I feel the need to give a more thorough response.
Bones absolutely takes medical risks all the time, in the context of the situation. It is not always his first choice, but often it is his only choice, and he sticks to it.
First of all, Bones injected himself in Miri neither because he was pushed nor because he was crazy. Bones did it because he was on the verge of being consumed by an illness that would cause him to eventually go insane, and then he would hurt others. The illness did make them snappish and short with each other, tempers fraying, but he didn’t choose to inject himself because he was crazy. At no point does what he says have any unreal aspect to it: if they don’t have the communicators and therefore access to the test results, they’re sunk. He was desperate, but had no way to know that the communicators would be retrieved in short order, and having everyone out of the room was his only chance to do it without pushback. Very logical, actually.
Second, this is not the only instance of Bones performing a desperate act without enough time to set up a board of review. He’s also often shown himself to be intensely medically curious, to the point where he has no regard for his own safety.
Bones has:
Faked Jim’s death by dangerous medical means to get them out of a deadly Vulcan ritual (Amok Time).
Sacrificed himself to torture with almost guaranteed death to avoid Spock getting tortured to insanity (The Empath).
Offered to wear The Teacher (NOBODY pushed him, and in fact Jim is initially reluctant and Bones convinces him), something no human had ever put on, knowing it could kill him instantly, because it could also give him the knowledge to put Spock’s brain back in his head before time ran out (Spock’s Brain).
Determined a way to treat a silicon-based lifeform on the fly after offering up one single line of “I don’t know what I’m doing” protest (The Devil in the Dark).
Tried to be the one to die by flying into a giant amoeba because he couldn’t pass up the chance to save everyone while studying “the greatest living laboratory we’ve ever seen” (The Immunity Syndrome).
Given Sulu cordrazine, a substance Jim calls “too risky,” because it was necessary to bring him around. It winds up creating a terrible accident, not for Sulu, but for Bones himself; we see how dangerous the stuff is (The City on the Edge of Forever).
Seemed willing to stay on the android planet, simply because they had an amazing laboratory with all sorts of discoveries he could make (I, Mudd)
Decided to treat Eleen and her baby even though the council and she herself were willing to kill him over it (Friday’s Child).
Yelled at a probe in the hopes of resurrecting his dead friend that the probe had just killed (The Changeling).
Offered to stay on a planet-ship that was on a collision course with an asteroid in the hope of helping them (okay, he was under a bit of duress in this one) (For the World is Hollow).
I know you said the series, but as further evidence, Bones’ risk-taking tendencies only worsen in the films:
He agrees to save Spock’s immortal soul by stealing the Enterprise (and later crashing it).
He “choose[s] the danger” to himself to accept the Fal-tor-pan and put Spock’s marbles back in his jar.
He decides purely on a whim to violate time travel protocol, potentially creating a world- or universe-changing scenario, simply to give an elderly, ailing woman a new kidney via a pill (and perhaps to introduce new technology, such as said pill and transparent aluminum, into the system), even though he knows more than anyone what can happen when you save a single life (City on the Edge). The last time he did that, Starfleet disappeared from existence. He still can’t stop himself, because there’s a suffering person and he has the means to stop it.
He yells at a being that considers itself God when it makes decisions he considers cruel.
And in the alternate universe of AOS (which gets many things wrong, in my opinion, but this isn’t one of them), he breaks his oath into tiny pieces and literally brings Jim back from the dead, which is not something you’re going to see in any medical ethics textbook under “it’s totally normal to do this.”
But here’s what Bones WON’T do:
He won’t sacrifice other people’s bodies or lives for his life (The Empath) or those of his friends, not even by silence, even if it means more risk, pain, and death to himself, because he “will not peddle flesh” (Return to Tomorrow).
He doesn’t like his friends taking stupid risks without what he considers a good reason/no other choice (many examples)
He won’t risk a life to save another person without the consent of the person whose life is being risked: see Spock, in Journey to Babel. He won’t put Spock’s life at risk until he knows it’s the only way to save Spock’s father (and that, we can gather later even though it wasn’t a part of his character at the time, was likely motivated by his own guilt at not saving his own).
However, once he has consent, and he knows how much this means both to Spock and Amanda and to the peace conference? Then, still in Babel, he agrees to let Jim pretend he can still captain (after being stabbed) long enough to get Spock and Sarek settled down for the procedure to save Sarek’s life. Otherwise, Spock had insisted on taking over the captaincy, preventing the operation from taking place. Once he’d worked the procedure out, yes, it’s dangerous, but he’s not going to let Sarek die simply to preserve protocol. Even if the ship is in danger from an unknown spy.
He won’t put Jim’s life at risk until it’s obvious that any other avenue of saving Jim or putting him back together is too dangerous; see The Enemy Within.
But:
He insists on going back to save Spock, physically in The Galileo Seven and verbally in The Immunity Syndrome, even though it puts the rest of the ship at risk, because he sees that incredible level of risk as acceptable when it comes to saving someone who would otherwise die for sure.
Risk-taking isn’t Bones’ first choice, but, to be honest, I’d argue it isn’t Kirk’s either. That’s also a fanon interpretation that most of us are guilty of perpetuating because it’s funny (like Bones’ grumpy one-liners). The great thing about the triad of Kirk, Spock, and Bones is that each one of them takes turns being the “voice of reason.” In Return to Tomorrow, it’s Bones, and Kirk says, “Risk is our business.” In The Menagerie, Kirk tries to temper Spock’s bid to fly to forbidden territory. In The Tholian Web, Bones tells Spock reluctantly that they have to think of the crew’s lives, and leave before they get trapped. In Spock’s Brain, it’s Spock warning Bones that The Teacher is a massive risk. In The Empath, Bones has to knock them both out. Now, the original post is a silly shitpost that’s supposed to be a joking comparison not to be taken too seriously (you can tell because Hypospray Maru doesn’t make any sense as a term). But to me, Bones’ medical curiosity and his willingness to take medical risks as a last resort, especially on himself, is a major defining trait of his character, and the only risks he pushes against are the ones that might hurt others. Sometimes, he utters a one-liner of grumbling protest as he’s already basically starting to do the thing, which I see as more of a verbal pattern than as him having to be ordered or pushed; he simply likes to kvetch.
He also is very willing to do something dangerous if he sees it as the only alternative, or as better than doing nothing. In fact, Jim is concerned about him in This Side of Paradise because he seems to want to continue doing nothing, and it’s only a reminder of how he won’t be able to help people medically that snaps him out of it.
So please, everyone, stop characterizing Bones as a scaredy-cat grump who never does anything under his own steam and only serves as resistance and the “voice of reason” against his charmingly madcap captain. He’s well proven himself as a risk-taker in his own capacity, all the more brave because he’s always doing things that clearly terrify him. He’s willing to do what he must for the oath he puts far above the Prime Directive – and the value of life he places even above that oath.
Good night from De Day 2026! Happy 106th birthday, DeForest Kelley.
#yeah that about sums up Sarek's perception of Kirk#everyone else thinks Kirk made logical spock crazier#but Sarek is like no no you did not know teenage spock#Kirk has tamed him#this is what spock looks like when he's tamed <---prev
hey gamers I’ve started watching star trek does anyone else see the romantic tension between captain kirk and mr. spock
watching the realization publicly dawn in real time in the comments is fucking amazing
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I love how this functions as peer review. Modern researchers have still been able to replace past results. These bitches gay.
If you know what i mean
gonna be cringe for a sec, but writing gay star trek fanfiction feels like such a big deal to me. here i am, participating in a tradition dating back to the 60s. a tradition thats shaped millions of real lives and changed the way we engage with media forever.
the invention of fanfiction has resulted in friendships and marriages, people moving across the planet to meet likeminded individuals. the fabric of our world changed because of how hard people loved star trek, a show that very nearly did not happen.
i've never cared for my own family history or tradition very much, but feeling connected to those first fanfic writers through my own fic writing is so bizarrely wonderful.
i hope we keep writing gay star trek fanfiction long after we make our own trek through the stars.
My controversial (?) take is that I don’t think Spirk ever got together. Sure I’ll draw them kissing but I don’t think they did that. I’m not even convinced they ever realised they were in love with each other. Instead I think it went like this:
Now BONES though… Bones realised.
“If I loved you less, I might be able to talk about it more” is such a beautiful, profound, and real quote that you’d think it came from 1970s spirk fanfiction but it was actually written by Jane Austen
I'm just saying, "We created a computer to make decisions for us, but it assimilated all of the bias that was implicit in the dataset and now makes incredibly racist decisions that we don't question because computers are logical and don't make mistakes" literally sounds like a planet-of-the-week morality play on the original Star Trek.
EVERY fucking stupid liberals university in the star trek future their fucking student sketch comedy group OF COURSE has at least one Vulcan and it's like their thing where they're like "haha I bet you wouldn't expect a VULCAN in an IMPROV group!!!!!" as if this hasn't become such a fucking tired cliche like literally since 2063 every fucking comedy show has the token Vulcan to be the straight man. you're doing nothing. call me when you guys make an effort to actually include tellarites in the writing room instead of confining them to punch lines. and to be honest with you guys your Vulcan isn't even that good. his performance was highly derivative of T'min's work in the big bang theory 3 (the third big bang yheory. they make a lot of sitcom sequels in the future)
The last thing you said cannot be true because star trek is supposed to be a utopian future.
star trek is very demonstrably not a utopian future it's a broken society playing at paradise. we see hints of this earlier in the post when I mention university improv comedy groups
Okay so, got here from a book on animal behavior but: Vulcan stand-up comedy as a competitive activity.
Because most Vulcans don't actually pretend they don't have emotions, it's all about self-regulation, right? And good comedy usually hinges on manipulating the relationship between our faculties of recognition and surprise in various ways, you can get pretty scientific with it.
So Vulcans go to the comedy act, and the idea is the comedian is trying to make you crack up, and the audience is trying to not even crack a smile, and if you do laugh, you lose. Like all in good fun, but Vulcans are both really competitive and really aware of how dangerous that urge can be to a society, so this could actually be classified as highly orthodox Surakian practice.
So of course the comedian has to actually be funny, or there's no challenge and the game is boring.
Which means the really good Vulcan comedians (most of whom tend to extremely dry delivery of their bits) are going to go around playing to packed houses, which mostly sit staring stonily back at them, with occasional breaks when someone loses it and reacts.
And after a show you'll have Vulcans walking out discussing with great approval how very humorous that was, with varying degrees of muted smugness or chagrin depending on if they won or lost.
I bet there are human comedians whose grandest fantasy is being good enough to do a set in Vulcana Regatta and have people going around bragging about not laughing at them.
"My agent was very concerned, wanted to make sure that I knew that no one was going to be laughing at my jokes."
"'Yes, I know' I said. 'I'm used to that.'"
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