Could you provide why you think Damian is 15? I thought he was 15 or 16 myself, but some people seem to think he is still 14, & I am double guessing myself now. Also, I could see Dick being 31. He is defin. somewhere between mid to late 20's to early 30's to me. The other Batkids ages make sense (tho sometimes I feel like some creators make Tim, Steph, & Damian seem more young visually and/or in behavior - less mature - than they actually are. Tho that may be purposeful sometimes w/ Tim?).
The very short version is that it's canonically been over a year and a half in-universe since the beginning of the Lazarus Tournament arc, when Damian was stated to be 14. Batman and Robin (2023) starts up the fall after the Lazarus Tournament (which takes place throughout the fall when Damian is 14), thus Damian must be 15.
The actual answer is that I'm insane and have a very detailed 9-10 page timeline tracking Tim's age from the Rebirth era to now and used a lot of Dick's and Damian's books as time progression signposts, since Damian has explicitly aged on-page in a way Tim hasn't and Dick's books often had time progression statements. For the Infinite Frontier through early Dawn of DC-era timeline (aka, 2021-2023), see these excerpts from the (still very much in-progress) timeline:
Sonic and Jet's Darling daughter. she grows up to be a extreme gear and figure skater champion. she enjoys shiny things, dancing. baths and swimming. with a laid-back personality but snarky and blunt with her opinions.
Much to Sonic's dismay. she doesn't like chilli dogs. preferring citrus foods and flavors. she calls sonic 'dad' and Jet 'papa'
Bat-family ages in Batman: Wayne Family Adventures
In Batman: Wayne Family adventures, Damian’s age is given as 9 (Ep. 13) and Jason's is given as 19 (Ep. 53).
Bruce’s age is not given, and neither are Steph’s, Tim’s, Cass’s, Alfred’s, Barbara’s, Duke’s, Harper’s, Jim’s, Kate’s, Luke’s, or Selina’s.
According to Ep. 35, Dick became Robin 16 years ago (from current time in WFA), and according to the WFA wiki, Tim figured out Batman and Robin’s IDs at age 9. By adding the typical age Jason dies at (15), Dick’s usual age when Bruce takes him in (8 or 10), and how old Bruce typically is when his parents die (also 8 or 10), along with the typical age ranges of the Bat-family members compared to each other and their apparent ages in the webcomic, we can use some (dubious) math to extrapolate the (at least general) ages of the Bat-family at certain points on the timeline.
Ages of Bat-family members when…
Bruce's parents died: Alfred Pennyworth - late 30's or early 40’s, Jim Gordon - 24 or 26 (figure that looks like Jim seen among background police in Ep. 132 of WFA), Bruce Wayne - 8 or 10 (typically when it happens), Kate Kane - Kid, 13 or under, Selina Kyle - Kid, 13 or under, Barbara Gordon - Infant or 2, Dick Grayson - Not born yet or infant.
16 years ago when Dick became Robin (WFA Ep. 35): Alfred Pennyworth - 40’s, Jim Gordon - 34, Bruce Wayne - at least 18 (would have to be a legal adult to take in a child), Kate Kane - late teens or early 20’s, Selina Kyle - late teens or early 20’s, Barbara Gordon - 10 or 12, Dick Grayson - 8 or 10 (usually how old he is), Luke Fox - at least 4 or 5, Jason Todd - 3, Cassandra Cain - 1 or 2, Harper Row - 1 or 2, Tim Drake - Infant or 1, Steph Brown - Infant or 1, Duke Thomas - Infant or 1.
Damian was born: Alfred Pennyworth - 40's or early 50's, Jim Gordon - 41, Bruce Wayne - at least 25, Kate Kane - mid or late 20’s, Selina Kyle - mid or late 20's, Barbara Gordon - 17 or 19, Dick Grayson - 15 or 17, Luke Fox - at least 11 or 12, Jason Todd - 10, Cassandra Cain - 8 or 9, Harper Row - 8 or 9, Tim Drake - 7 or 8, Steph Brown - 7 or 8, Duke Thomas - 7 or 8, Damian Al Ghul-Wayne - Infant (newborn).
Jason became Robin: Alfred Pennyworth - 40's or early 50's, Jim Gordon - 41 or 42, Bruce Wayne - at least 25 or 26, Kate Kane - mid or late 20’s, Selina Kyle - mid or late 20's, Barbara Gordon - 19, Dick Grayson - 17 (most likely since he's typically not living at the manor at this point and you can be emancipated at 17), Luke Fox - at least 12 or 13, Jason Todd - 10 or 11, Cassandra Cain - 9 or 10, Harper Row - 9 or 10, Tim Drake - 8 or 9, Steph Brown - 8 or 9, Duke Thomas - 8 or 9, Damian Al Ghul-Wayne - 1 or 2.
Tim figured out Batman and Robin’s IDs: Alfred Pennyworth - early or mid 50's, Jim Gordon - 42 or 43, Bruce Wayne - at least 27 or 29, Kate Kane - late 20's or early 30's, Selina Kyle - late 20's or early 30's, Barbara Gordon - 19 or 21, Dick Grayson - 17 or 19, Luke Fox - at least 13 or 14, Jason Todd - 12 or 13, Cassandra Cain - 10 or 11, Harper Row - 10 or 11, Tim Drake - 9 (according to WFA wiki), Steph Brown - 9 or 10, Duke Thomas - 9 or 10, Damian Al Ghul-Wayne - 2 or 3.
Jason Died: Alfred Pennyworth - 50's or early 60's, Jim Gordon - 45 or 47, Bruce Wayne - at least 30 or 32, Kate Kane - 30's, Selina Kyle - 30's, Barbara Gordon - 22 or 24, Dick Grayson - 20 or 22, Luke Fox - at least 16, Jason Todd - 15 (typical age he dies), Cassandra Cain - 13 or 14, Harper Row - 13 or 14, Tim Drake - 12 or 13, Steph Brown - 12 or 13, Duke Thomas - 12 or 13, Damian Al Ghul-Wayne - 5.
Currently in WFA: Alfred Pennyworth - early or mid 60's, Jim Gordon - at least 40's but probably 50 (going off of when he's present in GCPD, and his greying hair), Bruce Wayne - at least 34 but likely early 40's, Kate Kane - 30's or 40's, Selina Kyle - 30's or 40's, Barbara Gordon - 26 or 28 (a few, probably 2, years older than Dick), Dick Grayson - 24 or 26, Luke Fox - at least in his 20's (MMA Fighter, definitely an adult compared to the other kids), Jason Todd - 19 (given in Ep. 53 of WFA), Cassandra Cain - 17 or 18, Harper Row - 17 or 18, Tim Drake - 16 or 17, Steph Brown - 16 or 17, Duke Thomas - 16 or 17, Damian Al Ghul-Wayne - 9 (given in Ep. 13 of WFA).
I made a post a few weeks back about this head canon / plausible theory I had about Viktor.
Now my math is usually shit but for once I think (I'm like 99% sure) that I did it right
But now I want to expand on it even more, and oh lookie here I made a time line which I will also write down just incase it's too hard to see
Below the cut will be a written version of the timeline but it makes sense and this is my official non-canon canon head canon
BUT I WILL SAY AGAIN I HAVE NO IDEA IF MY MATHS CHECKS OUT I THINK IT DOES BUT REGARDLESS I THINK IT WORKS AND THIS IS MY NEW OBSESSION (I will be writing a fic about this)
In my head, this is 100% canon but wasn't important, so they didn't mention it. But it could, without plausible deniability be canon
I feel like this guy
(I don't know if that makes any more sense than my shitty timeline lmao)
This has been a labour of love but here is a blank google spreadsheet to get an age timeline down for the boys. It is color coded by season, and the years should follow both the book and show as close as possible. THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE DOCUMENT! I based it around the documented battles so there may or may not be events missing. If there is a battle I missed, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN UPDATE THE DOCUMENT!
I originally had an ASOIAF column since I needed this for TLAD (and all my other works if I’m being honest) but I’ve removed it in case you don’t actually need it.
Warrior cats age equivalents has always been a very sketchy and confusing thing. Many people often just do a linear cat to human age, ex.: 1 month = 1 year, but I've always believed it isn't so straight forward and that warrior cats' age physically and mentally different.
I think the best way to determine a cat's age in relation to a human's age is based on milestones, such as when a toddler takes their first steps, or a kitten first starts eating wet food.
But, as you'll see, there are discrepancies in doing this. For example, humans are often walking better before they're weaned off milk/baby food, while kittens can often be weaned off milk before they're walking without wobbling. Additionally, cats can become sexually mature very young (child age), while that is more rare in humans (though not impossible).
Cat maturity has a different "system" than human maturity, so this is just a close equivalent to help some people visual the ages better.
Cat age = Human age
3 weeks = 2 years - 3 weeks is when weaning off of milk and onto wet food often begins. Similarly, 2 years is considered the "cut-off" for babies breastfeeding. Capable of talking at this point, though communitive abilities differentiate
4 moons = 10* years - cats can become sexually mature at 4 months of age. Generally, afab persons can start puberty at 10 years and technically be "sexually mature"
6 moons = 6* years - when apprenticeship starts is akin to when first grade starts, but I'd personally say 6 moons old feels more akin to a 9-10 year old (4th grader) to me and 4 moons old are the 1st graders, especially considering the next age and context of "sexual maturity"
7 moons = 12 years - most places consider cats "adults" when they are seven months old, as they are mostly done growing. 12 years is generally when puberty begins, so it's technically the opposite (start growing)... but in ye olden days, you could be considered an adult at 12 so. It's the closest equivalent if we are keeping 12 moons = 18 years.
12 moons (1 year) = 18 years - both are when they are considered independent "adults" in their societies
84 moons (7 years) = 40-50 years - 7 years is the "senior" status for cats, when they're "old" adults. Most people call 40 year old's old
120 moons (10 years) = 60-70 years - the "retirement" ages
216 moons (18 years) = 100-110 years - 18 years for a cat is like living past 100 years for a human. Though it should be noted wild/stray cats do not tend to live as long as indoor cats, so this is especially a "rare" age for warrior cats
Based on these milestones, I would put the warrior cats aging as....
Orange, aging rapidly, at a 1 month = 1.5 year rate
0-1 moon = 0-2 years (newborn-toddler)
2 moons = 3 years (toddler)
3 moons = 4-5 years (child)
4 moons = 6 years (child)
5 moons = 7-8 years (child)
6 moons (.5 year) = 9-10 years (pre-teen)
7 moons = 11-12 years (pre-teen)
8 moons = 13-14 years (teen)
Green, aging cools down to 1 month = +1 year equivalent
9 moons = 15 years (teen)
10 moons = 16 years (teen)
11 moons = 17 years (senior teen)
12 moons (1 year) = 18 years (senior teen)
13-16 moons = 19-22 years (young adult)
17-24 moons (2 years) = 23-30 years (young adult)
25-30 moons= 31-36 years (adult)
Red, aging slows down
31-40 moons = 37-38 years (adult)
41-50 moons = 39-40 years (adult)
51-60 moons = 41-43 years (adult)
61-70 moons = 44-46 years (adult)
71-80 moons = 47-49 years (senior adult)
81-90 moons = 50-52 years (senior adult)
91-100 moons = 52-59 years (senior adult)
101-110 moons = 60-64 years (young senior)
111-120 moons = 65-74 years (young senior)
Blue, elder age is hit, aging is still slow, depends on health of cat
121-130 moons (10 years) = 75-81 years (senior)
131-140 moons = 82-88 years (senior)
141-150 moons = 90-94 years (senior)
151-160 moons (12 years) = 95-99 years (senior)
161-215 moons = 100-109 years (centurion)
216+ moons (18 years) = 110+ years (centurion)
Please note that this is just a best guess estimate. Cats age physically and mentally different than humans, which makes it hard to "exact" their ages.
In general, it is accepted that 0-6 moons is a child, 7-12 is a teen, and 13+ is an adult, with some age around 90-100 moons being the elder age.
Thistlestar was around 29-30 moons when Spottedleaf at 12 moons gave birth to Firestar+. Thistlestar would be a 35-36 old adult and Spottedleaf an 18 year old who was impregnated at 17 years. Thistlestar first began grooming/showing interest in her when she was 2-3 years old, and they entered a relationship when she was around 10 human years old and he 23-25 years old.
(This is assuming my cat age for Thistlestar is correct - I'm currently reworking all cats' ages.)
