#batman slander

[bookhugers]

Everyday i hope steph becomes a green lantern..

She is so green lantern coded...

Also hal is like the only main superhero to not get a blonde girl sidekick that constantly bullies him

They cant shit talk batman together...

Also she finally leaves gotham oh ym god

[oystarru]

me out loud: i think east of eden is a really interesting novel. I’ve been warned that its depictions of women are less than savoury because john steinbeck hated his wife so I would be wary of any misogynistic portrayals

my tumblr-rotted, goncharov guzzling brain: Adam!Dick and Charles!Jason Cathy!reader insert

[just-an-enby-lemon]

We have two main versions of Batman:

- good writen Batman who is trying his best to change the city.

- proto facist Batman who always wins, is always ready for everything and thinks beating his criminals and sending them to hell in an endless cycle will somehow work out some day.

Now there is a lot of in between.

And not all Batman villans are queer, poor or neurodivergent (point to Scarecrow for being all the above). Shocker I now.

He has a lot of villans that can easlly represent systemic inssues (small ones like Lyle Bolton and Arnold Flass or major ones like Hugo Strange and the Court of Owls ) or are mostly capitalisc assholes (some versions of Penguin, he has other tamer mob related versions, ones he is almos an anti-hero and weirdly he also has the one who is just Poison Ivvy for birds; the first Black Mask would also fit here), just plain mob (some versions of Oswald, he is a very multi faceted characther; Maroni; Falcone; Black Mask; both Jason Tood and Two-Face had their mobster time).And some are a mix of both (Joker is queer coded and an abusive piece of shit; while I hate Scarecrow slander he is queercoded, poor and neurodiverget but also he can be saw as contributing to systemic opression by abusing his patients, when narratives make him an ex pyschatrist in Arkham who abused the immates) .

It all depends on how the characthers are portrait. Unfortally when writing grimdark asshole Batman most writers preffer to go to the "let's stigmatize the mentally ill/queer people//and some times the poor and if we really suck middle eastern people (this one is mostly about some depctions of Ra and the League of Assassins as a whole)", I mean they are basing their writings on Frank Miller. Of course it has bad undertones.

....

Actually we have four main versions of Batman:

- good writen Batman, symbolises hope, fails but is trying his best, has some issues and internalized shit to work on but is working on it.

- asshole Batman in a good writen story, is either deconstructing himself or accidentaly the villan of his own story.

- asshole Batman in a story that endorces it and reinforces societal norms and prejudices. Can still be a good story, but pay atention to the undertones and the mensage in it. Please.

- asshole Batman writen by Frank Miller or someone who thinks Frank Miller is the best thing to ever came to comics. He is facist.

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This long introduction is to say that I am talking about number four. The Batman who could've come straigh up from ASBAR.

So a thing that happens in fanfic with this Batman is storys were a different version of Bruce comes and rescues the batkids. Or Jason Todd does it. Or Dick Grayson. Or some of the Rogues (fortunally never Joker or Slade, let's keep it that way, eh). A LOT OT THEM. And honestly this is fine. It IS also very cathartic.

I'm not here to judge it. I'm here to give this authors who create catharsis for themsefs and their readers (me included) some new ideas:

- Kate Kane saves the batkids. First of, Kate deserves some love. She may not be the most maternal person out there, but she is a great aunt and would likely be the most apt adult to see what Bruce was doing and interving. As she is a cosntant figure in Gotham and in direct contact with both the Batman and the Bruce sides. She would have trouble but also do an amazing job not only as guardian but as the hero Gotham needs. And if nothing more that would be fun.

- Barbara Gordon saves the batkids. Okay, I have a soft spot for older Barbara who acted as Dick older sister and as Bruce's younger sister. The one before DC started gradually deaging her. The one who was a concilwoman. And that Barbara would definitivaly do something. Also I just love her.

- Barry Allen rescues the Batkids. When not used as the watsonian reason for bad reboots, the flashfamily is the most functional family in DC (and I say that as a batfam lover). Also Barry sideckicks all already have a Robin bestie. So it's very easy. Not only that, but Barry it's the only option that can also save the opressed side Batman rogues and actually help them rehabilited and I NEED it. The asshole versions of Bruce treats his rogues soo bad I can't. And like most times they still are redemable. Like the only justification the media will give is "they are sick so they can't change" and like WTF. As a neurodivergent person who also suffers from high anxiety, this is problematic as hell as a jistification. Also it mades no narrstive sense. I mean yeah, Joker is irredimable. But why are Riddler and Ivvy in the same level as him?

- Lord Death Man rescues the batkids. I won't explain. But he is Damian step-great grandfather and he treats the apprentice he considers the daugther he never wanted fairly well.

- The batkids join the Shazamfamily. They are also very fuctional. And people always make Billy joins the Batfam so it's time to the inverse.

[For now that is it. Mostly because I'm trying to give sugestions I never saw im actual fics. If I think of something more I'll add. Also PLEASE PLEASE someone make a fic of Flash rescuing the villans in an asshole Batman scenario, I need it]

[real-frosty]

Bruce, to Jason: You broke his collarbone YOU FREAK YOU FUCKING FREAK I WISH YOU'D STAYED DEAD FUCKING MISTAKE YOU'RE SO ANGRY

Meanwhile Bruce when a mentally unstable person snatches a purse:

[thicksimpx]

Want to piss a Batman fan off ?

Tell them batman and Kim possible have the same powers

[pokemonleague]

i love batman cause he could break everybone in your body for jaywalking then take off down the road in the batmobile to tussle with a white man in a track suit like

[strawbuddy-luv]

Hot take but I don't think Batman is a good parent.

Letting 10-13 year old children, sometimes not even his own children, run around at night fighting crime, in the crime capital of America, especially after one of your kids die because of it, doesnt exactly scream "Dad of the year". I do not think Bruce is s good parent for letting his kids risk their lives ever day "for the good of gotham" before they're even at highschool reading level, I'm sorry. Except I'm not, because I can't justify that in my head. At all. "They would've done it anyways!" He is a whole ass adult these kids cant even do their times tables yet. He can tell them "No youre not allowed to run around in bright colors fighting crime with actual superpowered phycopaths." I think the only two this argument could possibly work on would be Tim and Damian, and even then it A. Wouldn't be a problem if you didn't let the first one go out in the first place, and B. You're. The. Adult. You can keep saying "No" and handing out punishments until they listen because this is their life on the line. "Ok but otherwise he'd be lonely :(" yeah so that means he gets to traumatized children and get kids killed. There's plenty of adult superheros that he can, and does, become friends with, but no no no guys you don't understand he needs to make these kids already fucked up life even worse. He could set up a time limit, like "no superheroimg until youre 24", he could find better people to adopt these mentally ill kids than himself, literally anything else, there are so many other options than killing kids. "How about you read the comics!" Bestie I am, and even if I wasn't that's not a very good excuse...because he's still letting children go out and die knowingly with the power to stop it. "But they're not actually child soliders, Batman says so himself!" ...I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this, but typically the absuer doesn't enjoy admitting that they're an abuser...I'm not saying Batman's a bad person, I mean I am, but not to literally anybody else besides his own kids. It reminds me of that quote "You spent so much time saving everybody else's kids that you forgot about your own." Like there's so many other reasons Bruce is a mediocre like C- dad, but the whole "letting kids go fight crime with you and watching them die and then repeating the process" thing is something I cannot get over. I know I'm thinking way to hard about a story where one of the villains is named Calander Man, but idk I prefer my "good dad representation" without a side of child murder by proxy.

[polybiuschampion]

me watching a batman movie/playing a batman game, knowing he'll be there, but still getting annoyed because i only care about the villains