#cebriones

[dilutedh2so4]

Hector and Paris departing. Chalcidian black-figure krater, 550 to 500 BC.

Unnamed man; Helen and Paris.

Andromache and Hector.

Kebriones on horseback; man running.

Side B: unnamed youths on horseback.

[mizeries]

what if patroclus had whatsapp 😂

im sure this has been done before but here's my version

[katerinaaqu]

I hope you wouldn’t mind doing name translations more often from time to time since I’m assuming it takes a little while to complete those lists. I’d love to see ones for the Odyssey monsters, other suitors, and maybe even some of the more underrated warriors from the Trojan War like Pandarus and Cebriones. Apologies if I’m asking for too much, but I do love etymology and Homer!

You are very kind and thanks for understanding but yes it seems these lists have become very popular these days hahaha. I am so happy at how fast and well this previous answer of mine spread!

Post by @katerinaaqu

💬 24  🔁 48  ❤️ 95 · Some of the Greeks: · What are the meanings behind the names of the main Iliad and Odyssey characters? Just curious. Ce

But sure I could do that! I will try at least to deliver! Hahaha So here goes:

Odyssey Monsters:

Scylla/Skylla-> The Shredder, The One Who Tears Apart, The Mangler Coming most likely from the ancient verb σκύλλω which means "to tear to shreds" or "to rend" or "to mangle" (This verb probably gave the modern day name to the "dog" σκύλος from the fact that the canine's teeth and jaws tear apart flesh and also the modern day σκύλα means "female dog" or more fittingly "bitch" as an insult too the same way as in english. I suppose it also helps that Scylla was said to make puppy sounds to lure her prey)

Charybdis-> The One who is Agape and Spits Out Although the meaning is not 100% certain it seems to come from the verbs χαίω "to be agape", "to be open" and βδέω "to throw up" , "to belch"

Sirens -> The Searing Hot Ones, The Blinding Bright Ones From the word σειρός which means "scortching hot" and "bright" (As per my other analysis you can see here Sirens represent the dangerous knowledge that consumes and kills you if you accquire it)

Cyclops -> Round-Eyed From the Greek κύκλος "circle" and ὄψ "eye" As per the name Πολύφημος Polyphemus his name means "The One Much Sung About" or "The One with Much Fame" from Greek πολύς "much" or "many" and φῆμις "speech", "talk" "fame"

Laestrygonians -> The Skin Harvesters Once again not totally clear definition but could be coming from the words λαισήϊον "raw skin with hairs still on" and the verb τρυγάω-ῶ "to gather" or better "to harvest"

Suitors:

So I would assume the Homeric suitors because I totally am not to go through all the list of the hundreds of names suggested by Apollodorous hahahahaha So apart from Antinous, Eurymachus and Amphinomus, Homer names 12 names more (I have made another answer you can see here)

Leiodes -> Smooth-Like, Even-Like Coming probably from the adjective λεῖος which means "smooth" or "even" while the epithema -δης on occasion means "resembling"

Eurydamas -> The Tamer of Many From the word εὐρύς which means "wide" or "plenty" and probably the verb δαμάζω which stands for "to tame" or at times "to break" (in the essence of taming)

Le(i)ocritus -> The One Of The Smooth Decision, Smoothly Judged, Even Judge, Smoothly Chosen, Evenly Judged Possibly from the word λεῖος aka "smooth" or "even" and the verb κρίνω aka "to judge", "to decide" and therefore the word κριτός "the one judged" or "the one chosen"

Agelaus -> The Leader of People From the verb ἄγω "to lead" and λαός "people"

Amphimedon -> The One of Two Thoughts, Double-Thinker I had to take a wild guess for this one since the meaning is not perfectly clear. I would estimate comes from the word αμφί "both of two things" or "two things" or "two sides" and the verb μένδομαι "to think" or "to be mindful"

Elatus -> Metal One, Armored One, Fir Tree Possibly coming from ἐλατός aka "made out of metal" Same word is used in modern Greek to speak on the fir tree

Eurynomus -> Of Wide Share, Much Distributing Probably emanating from εὐρύς which means "wide" or "plenty" and νέμω aka "to share" or "to distribute"

Euryades -> Widedly Sung, Much Praised Once again I had to take a very wild guess because the second part could derive from words that mean "pleasant" or "hated" haha but I think this fits better. coming from εὐρύς "wide" or "plenty" and ᾁδω "to sing" or "to chant" if it comes from the word ἡδύς aka "pleasant" then his name could be "The One of Many Pleasures" or "Much Pleased"

Demoptolemous -> Warrior Of The People From the ancient word δήμος aka "people" (in the political essence aka a mass of citizens of a place) and the word πτόλεμος which is an alternative of πόλεμος aka "war"

Peisander -> The Persuader Of Men From Greek πεῖσις "persuasion" or "obedience" (coming from the verb πείθω "to persuade") and άνδρας "man"

Polybus -> The One With Many Oxen Most likely from the word πολύς "many" or "much" or "plenty" βοῦς "ox"

Ctesippus -> The One Who Possesses Horses, The One Who Acquired Horses From Greek κτάομαι-ῶ μαι "to acquire" or "to possess" and ἵππος "horse"

Now for the two names

Pandarus -> Of All Pelts From Greek πας aka "everyone" or "all" and probably δέρας "fleece" or "pelt"

Cebriones -> The One From Cebrenia Probably indicating his city or area of origin, named after the river god Cebren (Κεβρήν)

I am not sure what other "underrated warriors" I can include here so if you have something specific in mind I can see what I can do. For example I remember Hyppothous -> "Fast Horse" or "The One With Fast Horses" from the word Ἱππος "horse" and θοος "fast"

As always I hope this helps! I am not of course 100% accurate but I think this is a decent attempt

[littlesparklight]

Extreme quickie, but it had to be done. Featuring ~11 year old Troilos, Paris, Kebriones, Deiphobos, and Hektor!

[kareenvorbarra]

there are four people in the Iliad who die specifically because someone tries to kill Hector and hits the guy next to him instead. Two of them are Hector’s half-brothers, and three are his charioteers:

Eniopeus

And as he came straight for them, the son of Tydeus cast his spear, but missed him, and it was Hector’s henchman and charioteer, Eniopeus, the son of high-hearted Thebaios, he struck in the chest beside his breast as he held the horses’ reins; he fell from the chariot, the swift-footed horses started, and there his soul and strength were undone. Dreadful grief closed over Hector’s heart for his charioteer; that he let him lie, grieving though he was for his companion, and drove in search of a bold charioteer; nor was it long his horses lacked a master; for Hector swiftly found the bold son of Iphitos, Archeptolemos, whom he then made mount behind the swift-footed horses, and gave the reins into his hands.

Gorgythion

He spoke, and let loose another arrow from his bowstring straight at Hector, and his heart strained to hit him; but he missed him, and struck instead blameless Gorgythion in the chest with his arrow, Priam’s worthy son, whom his mother bore, she who was taken as wife from the town of Aisyme, beautiful Kastianeira like to a goddess in figure; his head hung to one side like a garden poppy made heavy with seed and the showers of spring; so his head drooped, weighed down by his helmet.

Archeptolemus

Teucer let loose another arrow from his bowstring straight at Hector, and his heart strained to hit him; but he missed even this time, for Apollo thwarted him, and it was Archeptolemos, Hector’s bold charioteer, he struck in the chest beside his breast as he rushed to the fighting; he fell from the chariot, the swift-footed horses started, and there his soul and strength were undone. Dreadful grief closed over Hector’s heart for his charioteer; but he let him lie, grieving though he was for his companion, and summoned Kebriones, his brother, who was nearby, to take the horses’ reins; and when he heard he did not disobey. Hector leapt from his gleaming chariot to the ground crying a dreadful cry; and took a stone in his hand, and made straight for Teucer, his heart urgent to strike.

Cebriones

And Patroclus from his side jumped from behind his horses to the ground, holding his spear in his left hand, and with the other he seized a rock glittering and jagged, which his hand covered over, and with his strength behind it he hurled; he did not long stand in awe of the man, nor was his cast in vain, but he struck Hector’s charioteer Kebriones, a bastard son of worthy Priam, between his eyes with the sharp rock as he held the horses’ reins. The stone shattered his brows, the bone did not hold, his eyes fell to the ground in the dust before his feet; and he, like a diver, dropped from the strong-made chariot, and his spirit left his bones.

The Gorgythion and Archeptolemus deaths happen literally one after the other - there are no additional lines between the excerpts I posted for them (which are from Caroline Alexander’s translation). 

One of the downsides to being the best warrior in the Trojan army and occasionally having divine protection is that the people near you on the battlefield are at greater risk of getting killed, because everyone’s trying to kill you extra hard but you’re not allowed to die yet :) so if you have friends or siblings nearby it probably won’t go well for them :) sucks to be Hector

[dorianslayyy]

Potential TSOA/The Iliad spoilers ahead

Patroclus: *loses Achilles' armour*

Patroclus: *kills Cebriones in front of Hector, whose body falls from his chariot "like a diver"*

Patroclus: WoOoow, HeCtOr, whAt aCrobaTs yoU TrojAnS aRe. ComE aT me BitCh

Patroclus: *dies*

Apollo: ....I fucking give up

[gracchisuggestions]

Diversity win! The man laughing at your brother’s eyeless corpse is bisexual!

[gracchisuggestions]

Me, reading Memorial: This is very moving and all but where is Cebriones.