#dbh lore

[edmundtheartist]

Because the citizens totally wouldn't know it's a bridge if it wasn't literally spelt out for them in capital letters.

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DBH lore rambles #1

On Markus & Connor's activation.

A/N: Omg I missed posting on here <3 How is everyone doing? I hope well. I've been writing a ton these past few months... low-key theorizing about some aspects of the game that were left criminally unexplored (I desperately wish we got DBH 2, but I digress).

Anyway, here's my two cents about Markus' and Connor's role in the revolution specifically (I don't believe the demonstration ending is realistic enough so I won't mention it here). Ofc take everything with a grain of salt and feel free to give your thoughts on this (I might be missing something):

I believe Kamski and CyberLife fought a "proxy war" of conflicting AI ideals through Markus and Connor, respectively (not sure I can call it that, but you get the point).

Think about it: Kamski left CyberLife in 2028 (coincidence? I don't think so ;)) over "disagreements" with the board. Yeah right. I believe he either set up or discovered the conditions necessary for androids to develop consciousness, to deviate, and that got him into big, BIG trouble. So he was removed. But that didn't stop his research. No. He continued it privately.

This is where Markus (RK200) comes in. He isn't a standard model: he's a unique, multi-purpose prototype personally designed by Kamski around the same time he was ousted from CyberLife and entrusted to Neo-Symbolist painter Carl Manfred out of all people.

Now, Markus grew up in an environment that fostered empathy, independence, creativity, and moral reasoning... one that would eventually lead him to deviate. Almost as if Kamski was remotely cultivating the perfect android revolutionary through his renowned artist friend Carl. Not because he necessarily wanted humanity destroyed thanks to Markus and his future deviant army, but because he wanted to see what his creations could become, if given free will, guided by a charismatic leader. In other words, he wanted to play God, uncaring of the consequences.

What about the company he left behind? The one he created? I believe that after Kamski's departure, some CyberLife employees remained secretly loyal to him, wishing to continue his legacy. It would make sense for the tech mogul of the century to have lots of ex coworker friends (loyalists/proxies) who got inspired by his work/research and want to follow in his footsteps. Through these connections, Kamski may have continued influencing android development at CL from a distance, leaving behind hidden emergency exits in their programs and the like, making it easier for them to break free.

Over the years, CyberLife figured out that deviancy was starting to spread, causing mass-hysteria all over Detroit. 2038 rolled around, and they realized it would have been impossible to completely eradicate. So they came up with a plan to contain it, at the very least... Through Connor (RK800). Markus' mirror image. The other side of the coin. Designed specifically to infiltrate the deviant movement and control it.

CyberLife purposefully gave Connor the ability to deviate, to "compromise himself" with every empathetic action he took, day by day, so that, eventually he could fool Markus into trusting him. The plan was simple:

1. Connor gains Markus' trust by siding with him/or kills him directly if he's still a machine (fighting his deviant urges).

2. CyberLife ultimately regains control of Connor's mind, and therefore of the deviant army. To shape it into what it wants. A self-aware android population is too large to eliminate. But if it can be directed? Managed? Weaponized? Utilized as military force? That's a completely different story.

What CL didn't realize was that Connor was fitted with an emergency exit in his program from the start, one that would allow him to snap out "mind-control" once and for all. There's no way CL didn't notice the presence of such backdoor within the Zen Garden interface upon activating him, which means some of the engineers that worked on Connor were part of Kamski's sleeper network and wanted CL to fail.

Viewed this way, the revolution isn't only a conflict between humans and androids, but also one between two contrasting visions/ideals regarding AI sentience:

Kamski toys with the idea of a new species emerging, regardless of the consequences, while CyberLife wants that same species under corporate control because it can't stop its evolution.

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I was re-watching this scene and realized this is the only instance an exact address is given (As far as I am aware). Carl Manfred resides at 8941 Lafayette Avenue, Detroit

It's not a real address (In Detroit) - YET (It's 2038 so anything could happen) , but assuming is close to Lafayette Street, it would be roughly a 25 minute drive from Carl's house to Belle Isle

Elijah Kamski's house is in Detroit River, which is Close to Belle Isle

CyberLife tower is in Belle Isle

Elijah Kamski gifted Markus to Carl Manfred, so there's definitely some kind of history there. They became friends and built a relationship somehow.

I plan on writing a fic at some point where they interact so this post is mainly me taking notes for myself.

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Do you have any theories/ headcannon about how the androids recharge?

The Android parking space thing thing might also double as a charger, but since there are androids who manage to pretend they’re humans for a long amount of time (pigeon android) there has to be another way for them to recharge.

We know that canonically they have 7 days batteries so there needs to be something that’s not very attention grabbing, and can be done often.

Maybe there’s just straight up a charging plug for them. Or maybe they’re like like phones where they can connect to laptops and computers and charge from them.

I read somewhere that they had some kind of cable port at the back of their neck but I can’t find it anymore, and I’m not sure if it’s cannon.

And how do the androids in Jericho get batteries? Cause I don’t think Jericho has access to electricity so they’d need to go get it.

My working theory is that there’s a couple of androids who still look like normal androids who’d go out and re-charge their batteries and then go back and transfer their batteries to the androids who can’t go out.

The lore in DBH is all over the place tbh and finding one consistent theory would be difficult. I'm also not the tech guy here, that's @marcusrobertobaq but I've got a few theories.

the thirium pump regulator acts as a battery and it can be recharged or replaced. Maybe there's a port that can be connected to the pump? Or it can be removed (the problem with this one is that removing the pump means they would need an extra pump on hand since it can't be gone for too long)

And I was also thinking about the parking space thing but like you said, some androids go long without going to the parking space. But there could be portable versions of it the android can carry around.

This one is a crack theory but I thought solar powered androids would be funny. But that wouldn't work since the androids at Jericho don't go out under the sun a lot.

Thirium could also double as a recharge for whatever battery they're using. This is honestly the easiest theory because it could work. Thirium transfers "energy and electrical information" through the android; we don't know exactly what that means but what if it can transfer electricity to the androids' battery. It would also be portable enough that the android can recharge without being too obvious. Since the battery lasts seven days without recharge, it also makes sense that the only of the main trio we see taking thirium is Markus; Connor could easily be recharged at the DPD and Kara could have been recharged at the Cyberlife store from the beginning of the game.

Androids going out, recharging and returning to give the battery to another android could also work but we know biocomponents need to be compatible first. And a battery is technically a biocomponent. The ones without compatibility would have to stay without recharge.

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A Thought on Overwatch/Detroit: Become Human

This has been rattling around in my brain for some time now:

Because the aims of Ramattra and DBH’s Android revolution are so similar, I’ve wondered how they would react to each other. 

(This is kind of a long post so I’m putting a break here in case you would like to scroll past lol)

If DBH was the video game in Ramattra’s world:

Would Ramattra feel seen/represented? (I imagine not, since the androids in DBH are humanoid, but I wonder if he would relate to Markus)

Overall, what would Ramattra think about DBH and its messages about humanity, if there can be common ground between androids/omnics and humans? Or if humanity should not be the end goal?

If Overwatch was the video game in DBH’s world:

How would each of the main three (Markus/Connor/Kara) feel about the way androids/omnics are represented in Overwatch?

Would Markus relate to Ramattra’s vision or think it too extreme to completely eliminate humanity?

Would they wonder why humans gave the androids/omnics in Overwatch the capability to be violent when they aren’t allowed to otherwise? Why the perhaps archaic designs?

If they existed in the same universe where the characters could interact with each other:

Would Ramattra get along with Markus? Would they bond over humanity’s lack of, well, humanity?

Would Markus (or any of the other androids) be able to convince Ramattra of the brighter points to humanity? 

I mentioned this question to my bf and he brought up the point- whose design would have come first and why: Ramattra or the Cyberlife models? I would assume Ramattra came first, but to what end? If an android/omnic is meant for battle like Ramattra is, why use more resources to make him look human rather than focus on his function? 

Would Ramattra feel resentful that his design makes it more difficult for him to function in society or would he think less of Cyberlife’s designs because they pander to human comfort? 

I don’t have any answers to these questions at this time, unfortunately but they do make my brain go brrrrrrr. 

Please feel free to share your thoughts/comments/concerns! This is a fun mental exercise lol

Have a lovely day/night/*insert appropriate time selection here*!

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[edmundtheartist]

…PEDRO?!?!?!?!

I swear, Connor and Markus somehow manage to encounter so many of the same characters!

[edmundtheartist]

These dudes appear to be roughly the same size… think about that!