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whos the BEST robin?
carrie kelley
stephanie brown
mia 'maps' mizoguchi
helena wayne
mary wills
someone else probably irrelevant idk
not at all inspired by a certain poll cough cough
You know what I find really interesting, annoying, and frustrating all at the same time?
How people dumb down characters to make the other characters look good.
Or when they take away all of the bad traits from one character to make that character liked but amplify the other party’s bad qualities or add bad qualities that doesn’t exist.
As in basically making them OCs.
Like how they make a characters in Miraculous Ladybug worse than what they are and how they make Marinette the most amazing person on earth when she literally broke into Adrien’s house multiple times and stalked him on multiple occasions.
Yet the fandom is creating such fiction that will reconstruct the entirety of the show, especially the salt fanfiction, making the class to be such bullies because of Lila, like making Alya some kind of angry, irrational dog or Adrien some kind of really creepy dude, when, in reality, Marinette, actually the creep all because of the chameleon episode.
Is Alya not the best of friends? Yes.
Was Adrien’s advice to Marinette stupid? In my opinion, yes.
Did they make the characters dumb (dumber than usual) in chameleon? Yes.
Marinette is a kid but her classmates around e also children and her crimes are much bigger than their in the show and the fanfic is just making it seem like her crimes are not existent.
Or in DC fanfiction where they make characters like the Green Lantern or The Flash or Superman incredibly dumb or incredibly incompetence for the Bats.
Then, in reality, Hal graduated top of his class and has (what I believe are) a aviation degree and engineering degree, working on extremely complex projects of aircraft, Barry is a forensic chemist and literally works on crime scenes, or Clark who is literally a reporter who won two Pulitzers awards, works at one of the best newspapers in the industry/world, and does amazing work on his stories
And all of them have use their intelligence to defeat their enemies bigger than themselves, but writers just throw it all away to make them complete blundering idiots or just straight up a-holes for Batman and his family.
Just complete disregard for the characters quality in who they are and what they stand for.
I gotta say. After watching de-agers throw homophobic and misogynist vitriolic harassment at the entire Super Son team for WEEKS during the release window, I genuinely hope that Shazam issue is just Sina Grace mocking the fuck out of y'all for 20 pages
Dc will hire the worst writers who barely paid attention in middle school ELA then have the most talented artists do the visuals for their shit stories
I saw your post about Injustice Harley, and I agree, hardcore. I'm bigger into Marvel, and I'm a big Emma Frost fan, and seeing some writers and fans lean into this idea that she's just misunderstood, when that's partly true, but also, the woman manipulates, uses, and lies her way to what she wants, and the only reason she's a hero now is because what she wants aligns with the greater good. She's selfish, stuck-up, manipulative and has done some shitty things before, things she herself doesn't know if she deserves to be forgiven for. If I may posit a theory for Harley/Emma/this phenomenon in general? Fandom policing has made people really scared to have "problematic" faves, and so try to scrub them of any fault and wrongdoing, even when that's sometimes what makes them the most compelling, and writers lean into that
no absolutely, it's exactly what it feels like. problematic characters & liking them invite so much harassment in fan spaces nowadays that people will do the most to whitewash their problematic traits & behaviours in order to try & avoid that or convince themselves that they're morally still pure while liking these characters.
which is sad because i love seeing fucked up women characters & it feels like we're going back in regards to the treatment of female characters in a horsehoe effect.
making my own post bc i’m annoyed 😚
‘comic fans’ that don’t actually engage with the comics and only engage with the characters through fic are actively making the comics industry and comic fandoms worse. because now comics become catered to them and their blandwashed fandom versions of characters. and then they still don’t even read the fucking comics.
decades of characterization eroded or reset over and over again because fandom wants to flanderize characters. they keep resetting the fucking universe for these new fans that genuinely don’t know shit and still don’t even want to read the comics tailored specifically for them. why.
I’ve been sitting on this for a while
Tom King stans on twitter will throw tantrums over Williamson trying to make Wally West a salvageable, usable character again, but point out how King retconned a Latin-American superhero into being a dangerous, child-killing drug addict and they either refuse to acknowledge it or just dismiss it.
Tom King stans after the ‘subliminal Eobard’ retcon: This is EVERYTHING WRONG WITH COMICS! Fuck this and everything it represents!
Tom King stans about the ‘Victor Mancha was always a drug addict retcon: Um. I mean, I *guess* that’s kinda bad. If you look at it in a certain way.
And that’s without getting into his treatment of Hotspot in HiC, which is a whole bloody issue unto itself.
venting, salt, not directed at any personal but just an observation
Not wanna start discourse on main but some of yall dceu fans are mean as hell. We have legitimate criticism against the movies but yall keep narrowing us down to "oh you just being whiny white men!" please listen when we call out Synder for killing off the one nonwhite version of mercy for no real reason or the depictions of the middle east in 1984, or the sidelining of cyborg and iris in justice league. Please listen when we call out Jared leto for starting a cult or jesse eisenberg's legitimately awful version of lex luthor.