#got rant

[naathborn]

please god , be KIND to me.  this skin is tainted by wasted days , this youth is stolen by aching bones.  please god , i am too young to have these SCARS.

private. highly selective. temp. ©.

[moviestorian]

Also Game of Thrones, bc I just finished it. (!Finally!!)

Uuuu nice! What did you think about it? I’m curious about your opinion! :3

Game of Thrones

Nah | haven’t seen yet | didn’t like/gave up | like it | love it | highly recommend.

a reason why: Oh my, I feel like this one is like four options at once, that’s why I bolded a few contradictory comments. :P With a show like this, with 8 very inconsistent seasons and visible deterioration of quality, I feel incapable of giving it a definite judgement with the above scale. With the early seasons, I’d totally be on “love it-highly recommend” territory, then “like it” with seasons 5-7 (which were already full of bullshit and made my blood boil more than once to the point where I legit considered quitting, and yet the show remained enjoyable, also the visuals, especially camerawork, got significantly better), and finally...Season 8 (save for the first two episodes, which were actually pretty good if you ask me and left me with high hopes)is a massive NOPE.

Send me a movie and/or tv show!

[thestory812]

Do you ever think about how the showrunners had Daenerys killed by her love, had Brienne suffer humiliation after opening herself up to another, and had the gentle Missandei beheaded but they would not even let their precious Ceresi find out that Jaime had been sleeping with Brienne.

[thestory812]

Okay so it’s already a year and I’m bringing it up again but there is something else that doesn’t make sense.

So we all have said that Jaime’s facial reactions and body language (most notably his gentle thumb stroke of Brienne’s hand) were so in contradiction to his statement that he is “hateful” that there had to be more to his words.

What also does not make sense is the image before of him sitting in Brienne’s bedroom. He sits there looking forlorn and then looks back to her. We did not see him get up but instead the camera slowly pans to Brienne sleeping in bed. This seems to indicate he may have sat there for even longer before leaving.

If he was so “hateful” and was so desperate to get back to Ceresi why the hell would he just be sitting there? Why the hell would he look so forlorn? Why the hell didn’t he just leave the minute he realized she was asleep?

I imagine some people would say it was a way to throw the audience off and as a red herring of sorts. I have said this before and it may seem ridiculous in its obviousness, but the character of Jaime does not know he has an audience. He does not know he has to mislead us so we would not see the ending. In my drama class the professor talked about the importance of making choices of how to play a scene. Nikolaj clearly chose to play it as a man in conflict. Either the writers meant for it to seem that he was in conflict but that it passed instantly the moment he rode off or that conflict we saw was all an acting choice that he made and the showrunners couldn’t bother to pay attention.

Either way it doesn’t make sense

[letbarbieshavedragons]

Um no... there was PLENTY of foreshadowing since at least season two that Dany would go "mad". And she's definitely not mad, she's calculated and cunning but not mad. She had showed signs of being villainous since the beginning. Were you paying attention when she would yell about using fire and blood to get what she wants? When she burned people alive for not bowing to her? When she only "freed" slaves when it benefitted her goals to conquer. Her dark turn was obvious from the start.

right so not really sure where this came from lol, but since you actually took the time to come to my asks and you don’t seem snarky or whatever, i guess ill respond. 

I’ve never said there wasn’t any foreshadowing. I’ve said there was no character development for it or not near enough consistent or logical build-up, but that’s very different from foreshadowing. foreshadowing at this point is just a fandom buzzword. it’s vague enough that literally anything could be considered foreshadowing, especially in hindsight. so yes there is foreshadowing that Dany is a villain. there is also foreshadowing Jon and Arya and Ned and Sansa and Bran are villains as well. there’s even foreshadowing that Jojen was turned into paste and bran ate him. that word has lost all weight and meaning and it can’t (and never could) prove anything. at best foreshadowing is grounds for conjecture. not proof or a replacement for character arcs. and even then its flimsy. 

As for your other points your really cherry-picking the facts here if not just completely distorting the narrative. The Fire and Blood speech was a) a show only event and b) said out of desperation to get sanctuary so she and her people didn’t starve in the desert. she tried being polite and accomodating but they were going to leave them so in a desperate final act, she spit some (metaphorical) fire at them and it worked. so not exactly villain territory. not to mention fire and blood are her family words, of course, she used them. how many times do the starks go on about winter? or the lannisters about debts? this is hardly proof. 

As for the burning people for not bowing to her I assume you mean the Tarly’s, which is once again cherry-picking the facts. They were at war. You think Robert or Ned would have let Aerys’ supporters live if they had refused to bend the knee? What about the Umbers if Smalljon had survived the Battle of the Bastards? Rob Stark threatened to hang a man simply for implying he wouldn’t answer his call to war. Jon Snow beheaded a man for disobeying orders even after said man agreed to comply.  In ep 1, Ned Stark beheaded a man for simply being scared from his post. 

After the Battle of the Bastards, Sansa didn’t even want the Umbers family to keep their lands! In that sense Daenerys comes out more merciful seeing as she not only doesn’t take the Tarly’s lands, I don’t remember her even discussing it. and while i hate to acknowledge anything in s8, she even legitimizes Gendry and returns the Baratheon lands to him saving the house from extinction (even tho Gendry’s father nearly wiped hers to it). And while no this wasn’t done out of the kindness of her heart, it also wasn’t exactly a necessary political move and shows more graciousness than Sansa did in 6. (And I’m not trying to shit on Sansa here, i didn’t actually take issue with her decisions. just pointing out you have to hold everyone to a fair standard here) 

The Tarly’s betrayed their liege lord (to side with the usurper that murdered said liege lords and the queen) then murdered them, which by Rob’s own words is grounds for execution. Their liege lords who also happened to be Dany’s allies. If the show had any desire for consistency by s 7 (or really any narrative integrity at all) then there would have been people urging Dany not to offer any clemency in the first place. Daenerys was showing mercy by offering them a chance in the first place. Hell, she even offered them two. Bend the knee or take the black. That’s more than Robb gave. It’s probably more than Ned would have. 

With full context her offer was more: you are defeated, agree you will stop trying to kill me and I will forgive you for betraying a murdering your liege lords and my allies a and I won’t kill you in return. Hardly villain territory. 

And the “only freed slaves when it benefitted her?” is just completely and categorically false my dude. like i really shouldn’t have to explain this but your ask seems to be in good faith (and not just baiting me) so here we go. 

Dany didn’t have to free a single slave. She already had the Unsullied her plan would have worked had she freed them or not. In fact if anything she risked more by freeing them bc she had no way of knowing they would still follow her once free. But she did it anyway. She freed them because it was the right thing to do. So already thats wrong, but i’ll go on.

She gained nothing from freeing the slaves in Yunkai, in fact it was objectively an unstrategic decision, her advisors even tell her not to. the show even makes a point in saying its not the militarily strategic thing to do. she gains nothing from it but dead soldiers, potential catistropohic failure and (if she succeeds) thousands of freedmen she doesn’t really have the resources to support. And considering Yunkai even offered her money and (if i remember correctly) ships to leave them be, she’s washing all that down the drain too. So no, once again she gained nothing from attacking Yunkai, she only stood to lose. The only thing she won was the only thing she wanted, which was the freedom of those in bondage. 

And for Meereen,  I guess you could say she gained her queenship? Except she didn’t want to stay in Meereen and both the show and the books make it very clear she only does bc she’s afraid what happened in Astapor or Yunkai after she left will happen again in Meereen when she leaves, so she decides to stay long enough to transition the city into a free city, not bc she wanted to be queen of meereen. So even then its very disingenuous to say she freed the slaves in Meereen for personal gain. 

like my dude are you for cereal? at least the first two points I can understand from the standpoint of someone who is looking for dark Dany. If you are already convinced Dany is secretly a villain I can at least see how these things would stand out. But this idea that Dany freed slaves for personal gain goes beyond simply assuming the worst of her character and is just a complete distortion of the text.

I could go on about all the times the Starks have done shady or questionable stuff and no one is pointing fingers at them or about how Dany being a “secret” villain this whole time isn’t even the narrative we got (we got a fall from hero to villain further proving that at the very least even dnd thought she was a hero at the start) or that even if Dany is a “secret” villain having another badass blonde villain queen isn’t just redundant in the narrative and an overplayed trope, in general, it’s also not even a better or more subversive arc than just having her be a badass heroic dragon queen who has had to fight for every inch of her respect and power but this is already long enough and I’ve already made posts about these things 

[stormbornwithblackfyre]

Random thought:

If George RR does actually finish these supposed books and they dont end in the shit that the show ended with idk if I'll feel vindicated or even more fury than what I felt when I realized where the show was going.

[noanchorsallowed]

So, my friends, once again I have inflicted pain and suffering upon myself; I’ve watched all seasons of GOT from start to finish for the seventh time and once again I am in pain and misery over the fact that the love of my life, Queen Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, was betrayed, butchered, undermined and disrespected like that. She saved them all: in Essos and in Westeros, she is the Princess That Was Promised. She will always be the Queen of The Seven Kingdoms and the Queen of Essos. The Last Dragon, the last of the Blood of Old Valyria, the Protector of The Realm.

dan weiss & david benioff and their disgusting and vile murder of this triumphant, glorious, revolutionary character cannot and will not change my mind, not ever

[lilacs-with-lavender]

ATTENTION ALL JONERYS PEEPS

I need everyone to just be sad with me for a moment... I’m a huge soundtrack nerd and I was listening to Last of the Starks yesterday (I don’t know why ok) and realized something... a gut wrenching heartbreaking thing that only Ramin Djawadi could do

IF YOU COULD PLEASE SKIP TO THE FOUR MINUTE MARK IN LAST OF THE STARKS AND LISTEN

Done? Notice anything?!! Yes that’s right! THATS DANYS THEME THERE PLAYING ON SOLO VIOLIN her light motif kicks in as Jon looks back at the wall... regretting everything as we all know and I just thought all of you should use this to fuel your hatred for season 8 because that’s what it did to me!

Yeah. Ramin did that. He slipped that heartbreaking tune in. He’s been a stan since the beginning and tbh his music is the best thing that came out of this damned show.