#sysmeds

[spoon-the-raccoon]

"Oh you can't be x! x is soo rare! Only 1% of people!"

1% of the population is still 80* million people. That's a lot of people. Also "1%" is most likely a rounded estimation.

Also stop telling people that they're lying when there's not proof other than "x rare!!!!!!!"

You do realise that this is the internet and people are going to share their experiences.. even rare ones? Especially rare ones? Are you stupid?

*edited a typo

[fictionfreedom]

Violently slamming the fact that DID and other "Dissociative Disorders" related to Plurality were made by Ableist doctors who believed in "False Memories" and had MANY patients come out about being abused and/or the Integration forced upon them causing them to be unable to function due to the lack of their Headmates

Anyways, please read This, I feel it helped give a lot of light on why you honestly shouldn't bother interacting much with 'Anti-endos' and 'Sysmeds'

I know we posted the link before but certain,, posts keep popping up on our dashboard.

(The link outside of text: https://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/allison.html)

Also, for anyone who does read that I feel the need to say (if the information does actually reach you): Do NOT be ashamed at using the term DID for yourself, or anything mentioned to be "Bad" in that text. If you can go without using it, obviously it could be great if you would, but if it's the most comfortable term for you then you're under no obligation to stop using it for others comfort. Same goes for plenty of other stuff.

Also: Go check out the other plural post we made, Specifically the one mention Layman's Guide To Multiplicity. (Though, if you can't find it, here's the Link) ((Note: The website doesn't load very well on Mobile, so you may have trouble reading it on a phone. It's still able to be read, but it may feel a bit annoying))

[sophies-filter]

Unsurprising Confession: Yes, It Was Me!

The Anti-Willo-Charlie-Kirk account was made be me in response to an anti-endo making a blog called Pro-Willo-Charlie Kirk.

Most people already figured that out. I don't believe in subtlety.

But what I don't think people realized is that all of those posts... those were literally just Charlie Kirk tweets...

I found some sysmeds talking about this and wanted to highlight it because it's just really funny.

Like, yes, you did like a post that was posted by me...

But that post was ALSO from the literal Charlie Kirk, just reworded slightly to be about endogenic systems.

And I don't know... maybe it should trigger some sort of introspection on your part to know that you would like what Charlie Kirk had to say if his hate was targeting a group of people you didn't like.

You may not support Charlie Kirk himself, but you have the same weakness as his supporters. The thing that makes you susceptible to fascism and fascist ideals is this idea that there are some marginalized groups who are acceptable targets for discrimination.

And sysmeds still carry on this fascist mentality. The only thing they truly disagree with Charlie Kirk on is who the groups are they're allowed to discriminate against.

[eepy-possum-420]

Yes I did mean to say cis gay and I didn't know you are POC but my point still stands. Being anti endo means you are a bigot. Sysmeds will steal words like plural and fictive and try to kick us out of our own space. And I do care about oppression that's why I'm opposed to your disgusting rhetoric. Sysmedicalists are abusive and parasites in the community and the world.

Me after my lobotomy

It shouldn't matter if i'm a POC or LGBT or whatever it's not relevant and shouldn't need to be known to make your point.

Also "fictive" was coined online and is shorthand for "fictional introject". There was no specific categorization for those types of introjects so pwCDDs started using it.

"Plural" is not an endogenic term (you follow SIW or somethin? she loves these talking points & also likes to dehumanize and call ppl parasites lmfao) it emerged before there was even an online community for it. Around the 80s-90s some people used alternative terms rather than "alter" or "personality" because of the stigma around MPD. You'd hear words like multiple, plural, selves, etc. It didn't originate from endos, it didn't originate online, it was primarily from pwCDDs self describing "more than one identity state" or "multiple selves".

That doesn't mean I care who uses it. I literally dgaf. But "sysmeds STOLE 'plural' and 'fictive' how dare they use that term while being anti endo" is literally not fact based. If you're gonna use it, cool. but claiming ownership over a term that does not imply endogenic origins and was not explicitly created to describe "non disordered plurality" and then trying to gatekeep it from people who don't think like you is crazy.

[cardinal-bluejay]

“Endos” stop pretending to have disorders challenge GO

You do NOT have ‘CDD’ AND ‘OSDDID’ YOURE FUCKING STUPID!!!

You all need to be 5150’d to see how ACTUAL mentally ill people act. You stupid fucking anime kawaii core cutesy bitches. DID ISNT all trauma and anger and anguish but holy SHIT this isn’t a fanfic crossover 24/7 in your head. You fucking stupid pieces of SHIT.

[theswiftheartsystem]

Just a reminder: Not every OSDD-1 system fits under 1a or 1b. Yes those labels are helpful, however, not everyone fits under that, nor should we force them. All that OSDD-1 means, is that it’s nearly DID, but doesn’t fit the entire criteria. Saying anyone who doesn’t fit in one of two narrow labels is faking, is silly.

[systeminquiry]

How 'Sysmed' is a Transphobic Term

Transmedicalists are and have been deeply harmful to the rest of the transgender community because they believe you have to medically transition to be trans, and they push this idea onto other transgender people. CDD systems are trying to spread the most current scientifically-backed information about how systems form and function as the result of severe, repeated trauma.

Pluralpedia claims that the term 'sysmed' is modeled after transmed because both believe that "a certain phenomenon is only valid if they fit precise medical definitions and ideals." This is a false equivalence; a transmedicalist's ideology of precision and adhering to certain societal ideals, versus a severely traumatized person who wants to share what the consensus from legitimate research means about becoming a system, are not at all on the same level in terms of causing harm.

'Sysmed' wrongfully equates an extremely harmful, hateful ideology to CDD systems combating misinformation in their community. The term is especially harmful when used against a transgender system - you're roping them in with transmedicalists when the vast majority of trans systems are just living their lives. This is wrong to do and causes harm to trans people with CDDs. This makes it transphobic. Hope that helps

[sophieinwonderland]

I think that when people are so strong about a belief or opinion that they harass people over it, they should hold the very descriptive labels that they fit under, otherwise they are either blind to their actions or just a coward. If it's the latter, then maybe tone down a little

Okay so... my opinions on this are a little mixed. On one hand, the victimization narrative they spin around the term "sysmed," claiming it's somehow a transphobic slur, is pretty absurd. And like I've said before, feels like it's revictimizing the trans systems who have suffered similarly from both groups and are using the term to make the point about the similarity.

But I also have to say... I have seen more than a few trying to "reclaim" the term that compares them directly to transmeds, and find that gross for the opposite reason. Leaning in to the comparison feels like they're saying "yeah, we know we're like transmeds and we don't care." Because you probably SHOULD care.

It sure is less cowardly... But I would much prefer they actually be ashamed.

Even if they're not ashamed of how similar their rhetoric is to transmeds, and how they use the same tactics as transmeds, I would advise them to at least find a middle ground. Stop using DARVO tactics to revictimize the trans systems who have already been hurt by both transmeds and sysmeds by accusing them of being transphobic for pointing the similarity out... but also maybe don't proudly wear the comparison to transmeds as a badge of honor. Neither response is a good look IMO.🤷‍♀️