Ik ik, Iâve got over WIPS. But I HAD to do this one first. Iâve been thinking about writing a fic based on this post for a long while and Iâm happy to announce Iâve finally begun posting! The prologue is out rn Iâm just finishing up on the first and second parts.
For an overview: Billy gets amnesia and his powers taken away via the âvery smartâ reasonings of the Justice League. This definitely will not have any consequences.
For those who, like me, when they like a character they need to read every single comic the character appears in, I have compiled a list of all of Bart Allenâs appearances from his debut up to the 2011 Flashpoint reboot (he was not a part of New 52 continuity).
And thereâs also the extended list (including cameos) as a spreadsheet.
Hiiđđ do you perhaps have any bart and wally comic recs? I want to read more of them both but I can't find any reading orders or a jumping off point besides barts debut. Thank yew in advanceđ
Here is a reading guide, I am doing this mostly by memory and looking at my own reading list/notes on their relationship, so I know I am not hitting every single comic they appear in together, but it's still pretty comprehensive imo. They start off VERY rocky, but once Bart becomes Kid Flash things between them are written less grating as they come to an understanding of each other and respect each other more.
Note: this is all pre-Flashpoint and these issues focus on their interactions/feelings between each other, a lot of it pretty caustic. Some issues might have only one panel, others many pages.
The Flash (1987) #189
Bart and Wally West's Interactions Reading Guide
Wally Doesn't Do Sidekicks/Bart's Introduction
The Flash (1987) #92-#101
Dead Heat
The Flash (1987) #109
Impulse (1995) #10
The Flash (1987) #110
Impulse (1995) #11
The Flash (1987) #111
Impulse (1995) #12
Bart's 15th Birthday/Bartday
Impulse (1995) #22
When Bart Said "Goodbye" & Came Back
Impulse (1995) #24
Impulse (1995) #26
Bart Helps Wally Out While He's In a Wheelchair (he twisted his ankle)
The Flash (1987) #131
The Black Flash Saga
The Flash (1997) #139-#141
Wally Freaks Out About Bart Being Bart #1
The Flash (1987) #142
Wally Freaks Out About Bart Being Bart #2
JLA: A World Without Grown-Ups
Chain Lightning Saga
The Flash (1987) #145-#148
Sins of Youth
Young Justice: Sins of Youth #1
Sins of Youth: JLA Jr. #1
Sins of Youth: Kid Flash/Impulse #1 <- most important issue of this arc
Young Justice: Sins of Youth #2
Bart Remembers Linda & Endures Walter Saga
The Flash (1987) #152-#159
Wally Shows Deep Worry For Bart During Our Worlds At War
The Flash: Our Worlds At War
Wally Freaks Out About Bart Being Bart (and sort of regrets it) #3
Impulse (1995) #84
"You're going to be a dad?!"
The Flash (1987) #198-#199
Wally Has Reservations About Bart Joining the Titans
The Flash (1987) #200
Wally Freaks Out About Bart Being Bart (and they all hated that) #4
Teen Titans (2003) #1
Bart & Wally's "Slap-Fight"
Teen Titans (2003) #6
"I Stand Corrected About Bart..."
The Flash (1987) #208
Wally and Bart Work Together Against SB Prime
Infinite Crisis (2005) #4
Wally Turns Thad into a Statue for Killing Bart
All Flash (2007) #1
Wally's Thoughts About Bart After his Funeral...
Teen Titans (2003) #50
Wally and Dick Toast Bart
Nightwing (1996) #141
Wally and Bart Reunite After Bart Comes Back To Life
Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds #5
Other Random Issues
Impulse: Bart Saves The Universe
The Flash (1987) #189
The Flash (1987) #214
The Flash (1987) #223-#224
The Flash (1987) #228-#230
The Flash (1987) #235
The Flash (1987) #241
Enjoy and happy reading!
Okay might be weird but I didn't get into comics since 2018? And I just get that shit back to me and I do read comics but I honestly feel a lil clueless so is there comics you think that are must read?
This depends pretty much entirely on what character(s) you want to read. I've been into comics for about six/seven months jumping around comics. I don't know what qualifies as a must read for you since it depends, but these are some of the comics I've read to get an understanding of the characters I've been the most into so far:
Batman: Year One (might as well)
Batman: The Cult <- cool
Batman: Death in the Family <- Jason dies
Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying <- Tim's intro
Robin (1993) <- Tim's solo Robin run
Batman: Contagion <- cool Bats and Timbin stuff
Red Hood: Lost Days <- Jason before Red Hood
Batman: Under The Red Hood <- self explanatory
Batgirl (2000) <- Cass as Batgirl
Batman by Grant Morrison (dont care much about except for Damian, leads into Batman dying or whatever)
Batman and Robin by Grant Morrison vol 1 2 and 3 (this is Dickbats and Damibin)
Red Robin
We Are Robin <- Duke :)
Batman and Robin (2011) vol 1 and 2
Robin: Son of Batman <- DAMIAN (Robin War <- more duke -> tied in)
Batgirl (2009) <- Steph as Batgirl
Robin (2021) <- Damian solo
Batman Vs Robin
Batman and Robin (2021) <- Damian and Bruce
Batman and Robin (2023) <- Damian and Bruce
Comics are so vast you also have to kinda find your preference for what age/reset of comics you enjoy and the writers, etc. I've read the most Damian so that's where most of my knowledge skews/will be provided. Plus a lot of them will cross over into different ones based on the arcs and if it's apart of an event, like Shadow War or Dark Crisis.
For Dick Grayson, also, my plan next anyway is reading Batman: The Long Halloween -> Batman: Dark Victory -> Robin: Year One (2000) -> Teen Titans (2008) followed by his Nightwing (1996) years, and The New Teen Titans ones. And So on, (Batman: The Black Mirror, Batman: Dark Knight vs White knight, whatever) depending on how I feel. SO!! reading lists, for sure!! Find out who you like and jump around, you know? Explore!!
Also, not Batfamily at all, but Static is also a great comic from DC set in a diff city and universe. Do recommend.
I am having feelings about reverse robins where Bruce's first sidekick is Duke and they're called Signals instead of Robins. Bruce showing up on that rooftop with Duke for the first time and Duke making comments about how if Bruce is the dark shadow bat part of the signal then he's going to be the light that surrounds him and the batsignal is for the Bat and Signal. Bruce with the yellow circle on his symbol representing Duke's light too so he's carrying that symbol with him. The whole mentor/partner over parent dynamic and Damian coming in not knowing if he can match up is juicy too.
Bonus if Duke only unlocks his powers after becoming independant so its just been a metaphor up until then.
I've seen a bunch of "fandom etiquette" posts on my dash today and I'm going to say something that is maybe going to be unpopular but;
The absolutely pervasive mentality that unwanted criticism or critique shouldn't be given and should be ignored is why fans of color don't stay in fan spaces.
And I am not going to mince words here:
A lot of you are racist. A lot of your fan works are racist.
That might have been difficult to hear. And if it was, you should probably reflect on why that was.
"Fandom etiquette" has created a space where fans of color either bite our tongues and eventually leave or say something, get dogged on, and then eventually leave.
So much of "fandom etiquette" seems to be about insulating creatives from Feeling Bad and hostility to any kind of negative feedback is a pretty big contributor to why bigotry festers in these spaces.
i made many crack posts about this, but i decided to be serious this time
wind breaker is a fighting manga, and everyone's first fight says a lot about their characters:
sakura says he wants to fight his way to the top, but the first thing we see him do in the manga is protect someone. even as he rejects people with words, his actions show where his heart lies
before the shishitoren fight suo seems amused with the situation, but when the fight with kanuma starts we see how disdainful he actually is of childish bullies that hurt others
nirei was once saved by a furin student, so now he wants to do anything to be that person for someone, even if he doesn't currently have the skills to help someone without getting hurt
kiryu is attentive to girls and wants to protect them in and out of fights
sugishita wants to protect the world umemiya created
tsugeura and kiryu have their first fight together, a fight kiryu is involved in for trying to protect a girl, while tsugeura just happens to be there. when he learns those man are after the girl his thoughts aren't about the men hurting a girl, but about how kiryu is cool.
protecting people is a side effect of his real objective of fighting strong people. his virtue is letting opponents get the first strike. is that a sign of his chivalrous nature? not really. i would argue that for someone obsessed with people's virtues, his are surprisingly unclear and unsubstantial.
one way to write a mystery is by misdirecting. look at this shiny thing and dont worry about whats happening over there! i see this happening with tsuge's character all the time. have his introduction be with kiryu so we can pay attention to kiryu protecting the girl and forget about tsugeura's own motivations!
another fight that establishes everyone's character is the one against keel. for tsugeura, he... cares about his friends? but is that ever relevant for his character? in the same fight, suo caring about his friends is more relevant than it ever is for tsuge.
what sakura said he was (someone that only cares about fighting to the top) is what tsugeura actually appears to be. as far as i know he could be upset only because they weren't putting on a good show.
moving on, i was checking this document again, and to my surprise tsugeura's name has large river in it. surprising because suo - who has been connected to tsugeura since the beginning - is from a river island. maybe tsuge's from there too?
another interesting thing in his name is the connection to betrayal. is he betraying suo? bofurin? if he's from the kasai district too, is he betraying them? is he the one who's going to be betrayed?
when tsugeura finally talked about his past with suo everyone felt underwhelmed. 200 chapters of build up for this? tsuge didn't offer any information on suo even when anything could be of help, he only said anything when asked.
but what i'm thinking now is that he never tried asking suo again after that first day. is suo's virtue really that interesting? no one ever says their virtue to tsuge, he's the one that assigns people virtues after observing them.
i think its clear what suo's virtue is. was that really the question tsuge made that suo didnt want to answer? when they met again he could have said "wanna tell me your virtue now?" instead of what he says here.
we're getting their history now, when suo isn't there to disavow tsuge if he's lying. i would have actually trusted suo more than i do tsuge because i already know suo doesn't like to lie.
suo's actually even more honest then i expected. i thought because we see a silly side of him and a colder side of him, the truth lied in the middle and that would be his personality in the red chanpuru, but that's not what happened. he acts there the same he does in makochi. (at least with the population). and when given the opportunity to lie, he still chooses to say nothing.
is tsuge being an optimist here or did his strategy to keep people out of his business work? since i've noticed it, i've been obsessed with how tsuge keeps people out of his business by doing the opposite of suo.
the way i see it, suo is evading questions in canon but leaving it obvious for the readers he's hiding something. while tsuge is misdirecting us. he's Too Much, so the characters leave him alone and don't ask him anything, which frees him from the responsibility of having to lie in the first place! brilliant strategy. suo, take notes.
in the grande scheme of things, this isn't much, but its actually what started this unraveling for me. out of our six main first years, tsuge is the only one that doesn't have school as his favorite place. does that mean he's evil? no. other characters have other places too, like tsubaki and anzai.
but having all the other evidence, i think muscle power could be important. if tsuge is part of another group, they could be hiding in plain sight as the workers of muscle power.
suo's absence is so big we don't think about how tsuge is also missing. and while we had a hint of suo's backstory around chapter 100, we don't have anything for tsuge. why make him such an important character? there has to be more to him. we have anzai's backstory, sugishita's backstory and now suo's close before getting even a hint of tsugeura's.
i think suo and tsuge are used by nii sensei to misdirect each other all the time. suo is a traitor don't look at anyone else. suo is annoyed at tsuge don't think about who else suo should be annoyed at.
while i never doubted how much suo cares, i do doubt tsugeura. does he even care about protecting makochi and its people?? what is the principle of his life?
one of the only things we know about tsugeura is that he's interested in suo. he went looking for him in middle school, and now looked for him again and managed to become friends with him. are they from the same place? is tsuge with a group that wants to take the red chanpuru down? was the fight a set up? did suo hurt his brother? is he really only interested in knowing his virtue?
suo left, and tsuge is still in makochi. is what he wants in makochi? what if the first years go to find suo and makochi is left more vulnerable to attack?
IDK!!! but if tsugeura's going to be a traitor it has to be this arc because we're not gonna do fake traitors two times (i dont think tsuuge is going to be pure evil either). bankoku-gai (not red chanpuru, we haven't really been introduced to them) is more like makochi than i thought it would be. so maybe the danger will come from something else. something tsuge is involved in.
at the end of the day what i have is: why is tsuge even as important as he is? it could be only sakura, suo, kiryu, nirei and sugishita. we didn't need another character, tsugeura could have been part of anzai's group. so if he was included, it means his character is more than he seems.
and that's my thing, when you stop to think about what tsuge's deal is, you have nothing. and you don't even realize you have nothing! we have more on suo than tsuge. we have more on anzai and momijikawa than on tsuge. and yet, no one is going crazy wondering what his backstory is. and that's what makes it suspicious.
i know i started this by asking what tsugeura's deal is, but unfortunately that's also how i'm gonna end it too.
See the thing about the whole Claude AI exposing document thing is that as great as it sounds in theory, I can see how this leads to even more harassment and witch hunts in practice.
People have said the tag is unique to Claude only and therefore thereâs no way a human-made fic could have gotten wrongly flagged as AI. But how accurate and trustworthy worthy this is, really? Even IF, hypothetically, this method is proved correct 99 times out of 100, that still means âthere is 1 time out of 100 times where a human-made fic is wrongly flagged as AI due to an errorâ. And that to me nullified the credibility of the whole doc. Like, sorry for not trusting another newly-introduced machine and for being skeptical about it.
âBut how could the tag get there if the author didnât use AI?â Besides the possibility of an error, I can already see people weaponize this method by faking screenshots of fics that are about the ships or topics that they hate to make it look like these fics have Claude tag in them, and then spreading those fake screenshots around. And the worst part is that authors cannot prove their innocence because people would just say âthey got caught so now they removed the Claude tag from their ficsâ.
Like. I hate AI, but I hate witch hunts, accusations and harassments more.
Semi-related to this post, there's a concept I really enjoy of like.
Akechi and Mishima end up as friends, and they call each other by their given names. For Akechi it starts as a ploy to get Mishima to let his guard down, and like. How the hell does Mishima of all people refuse that, the boy folds like wet tissue paper under that smile. (Ofc then Akechi catches Feelings⢠but that's a different matter)
So at some point during third semester/Shido's palace if he's on the correct side of the shutter, Akechi is talking about "Yuuki" for something, and it takes the Thieves a solid couple minutes to realize who he's talking about.
Which is when Akechi finds out both that most of the Thieves are only vaguely aware of who Mishima is and that none of them had a goddamn clue the two were friends.
Akechi gets tempted to shoot Joker all over again when he realizes that the way Mishima described his meet-ups with Joker (framing it as giving school help instead of phansite info) wasn't actually due to Mishima's crippling self-worth issues, they just genuinely aren't very close.
