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these guys would be best friends they like to play xbox together
these guys would be friends with sasuke too
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Honest down to earth reaction when I see #SasuSaku and #SasuNaruSasu cross posted with Pro Sasuke tag
You hate Sasunaru because you're homophobic.
I hate Sasunaru because it actively ruins Sasuke's character and it forces him back into the village that oppressed his family, forced his brother to kill them all and it makes one of the characters unable to listen to the other when he wants to be left alone.
We are not the same
narusasu genuinely could've been the greatest ship of all time if naruto actually gave a fuck about the root cause of sasuke's suffering. he's constantly yelling about loneliness and friendship, like can we please address the elephant in the room?
narusasu is just another oppressor x oppressed ship. u can't ship a revolutionary character with a character that's there to protect the status quo. and it's always sasuke who has to change, even in fanwork.
they’re hereeee <333
are there going to be new covers for the other books too? i want to buy it but i don’t want the collection to be mismatched (gotta repost cuz my reply’s are broken sorry)
sasuke with the bisexual flag ? 🙏🏾
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sasuke with the bisexual flag ? 🙏🏾
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Some1 explain this please I'm scrolling thru the notes but haven't found something yet
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how did kishimoto change the core values of the narrative. i felt that something was different about the manga but I can't articulate it
up until the chunin exams the message is anti-military industrial complex - the series literally opens with the revelation that the military entity of konoha has implanted a weapon into a child and ostracized him for it then continues on to the land of waves arc to show the destabilization of a small nation for the sake of capital by corporate interests spearheaded by two more trained child soldiers (zabuza now being an adult and being unable to live any other way that so even when he adopts a kid who he cares for, he is unable to do anything but bring them into a life of killing). kakashi even has sakura explain how conflict between large military nations is necessary for economic prosperity in the shinobi village system and how it leads to strife and exploitation in bystander countries like the land of waves, then when the kids question his faith in such an unjust system he follows it up with the whole thing (which he started with the bell test) about how blindly following orders and the status quo is actually bad. blah blah blah
and then! suddenly kishimoto goes pro-state, dude's on the LDP party line, we jump to the arrival of itachi + jiraiya at the chuunin exams and the reveal of the uchiha massacre and how suddenly naruto's correct path is Not being anti-konoha, in fact, because going against konoha is Evil and the Dark Path, and jiraiya's the big noble hero for being a spy and soldier for konoha, yippee, will of fire! then you get shit like the waterfall of truth (naruto is aware that the system has been unjustly cruel to him but winning konoha's approval is depicted as logical and taking moral and narrative precedence), the creation of the akatsuki as an anti-imperialist movement initially just looking to protect and feed civilians in a wartorn region and eventually escalating to dismantle the system itself but when push comes to shove kishimoto makes it so talk no jutsu works on pein, the entire framing of sasuke being a bad person for deserting and itachi being a hero for massacring a marginalized and resistant ethnic group, kishimoto's interview where he says the narrative is based on his grandparents saying ww2 was based on "lingering grudges", the fact that kishimoto put the rising sun flag behind the sage of six paths when we get dojutsu origin backstory.... then after all the setup about obito and madara creating the crux of the struggle in shippuden as a concerted effort to destroy the shinobi system then suddenly kishimoto introduces kaguya as the ultimate seed of narrative conflict because haha hey it turns out that the massacred ethnic group is inherently genetically eeeevil haha isn't that a normal thing to write with no real world parallels
anyway most of this is introduced right after the 2005 anti japan protests across east asia, which as we know sparked an enormous reactionary right wing movement in japan. shippuden starts right in the midst of those actually fjskjfkd
This pro-state message is also why Naruto became very popular in the United States.
We all remember 9/11 and subsequently the Iraq War(2003-2011) were going on at the same time of the height Naruto's popularity. America was getting an influx of pro-military messages in media. It was diffrent from propaganda from the past. A lot of them would acknowledge that the military system had corruption, but the main character was going to be the one to fix it. The goal was to have young people think they could fix the system from the inside, while also being heros of war.
So our teenage boys were going off to war, and watching Naruto at the same time. If you asked anyone from the American Militarys favorite TV show at the time, it was a high chance it was Naruto. It validated a lot of their feelings of distress, with Narutos Talk no Jutsu, while also encouraging them to continue onward. There's a comforting message to the idea that the violence you're committing is right and ordained by a god, when your in the military.
Its also why the ideas of forgiveness is really popular. Naruto's eternal forgiveness allows the viewer to belive that even their worst actions can be forgiven by Anime Jesus.
Like you ask a man(the intended audience) what their favorite parts are, its usually the fight scenes, but their second favorite part is usually the character Naruto. If you read Naruto fanfiction writen by straight men, its all Naruto getting Isekai'ed into other anime and fucking their bitches. Which is the ultimate reward for straight men.
If it wasn't for the Iraq War, I don't believe Naruto would have been as popular in the United States. Honestly, if Naruto didn't get as popular as it did, I don't believe anime would be as popular as it is right now.
Friendly reminder that, in Brotherhood, Scar killed Winry’s parents for absolutely no reason (◕‿◕✿)
… he had a reason, he had literally just woken up from the single most horrific event of his life and saw people who looked like the folks who had just perpetrated the genocide against his people. He would have been sedated in a normal situation because violent PTSD/psychotic breaks are kind of thing that happens with extreme trauma like that.
Scar was experiencing flashbacks and even hallucinations. It’s probable he had no idea he was in a hospital at the time! It’s probable he legit thought Winry’s parents would kill him! He really thought Winry’s parents were more amnestrians that had participated in murder. that had killed his family.
Now, it’s not a reason Winry’s parents had any control over and they were innocent,which is why Scar acknowledge Winry had a right to want revenge on him. “Your people just committed genocide against mine and are still in the process” still is a reason. His actions would also hold up as a temporary insanity defense in a fair court (though not what he did afterwards) because that’s pretty much the definition.
eat my ass if you don’t sympathize with scar tbh
it’s actually insane how forgiveness in the naruto universe benefits konoha/naruto so much while for everyone else, it completely destroys their character and everything they stood for.
naruto forgives konoha for neglecting and abusing him as a child and he’s rewarded with the village loving him and having a great community of people who genuinely love him.
naruto forgives nagato for killing jiraya and attacking the village and he’s rewarded with everyone who died during the attack coming back to life.
vs.
neji forgives hiashi/hinata and no longer holds resentment towards them… and then he dies as a slave. he never believed he could be free but his anger was his rebellion and once that went away, he grew up to became the perfect slave.
nagato does get his “revenge” (not that he was doing it for revengeful purposes in the first place) but forgives and sacrifices himself to bring the people of konoha back to life. by doing this, he leaves his village without a leader and without protection. they eventually fall victim to whatever the fuck is going on in boruto and were excluded from the peace the other 5 great villages were enjoying.
sasuke forgives konoha. the elders are still alive and have not faced any consequences. the truth is never revealed, itachi is still seen as a villain instead of the loyal shinobi he is, his clan’s oppression is never revealed. he himself becomes detached from his own child and prioritizes missions over her. that uchiha child is now a shinobi and is fighting for for a village and a government that was responsible for her clans demise. (i don’t keep up with boruto so idk if she finds out later.)
not sure where im going with this but i just thought it was worth noting.
Something about how Alphonse was the rightest person to fight using a Philosopher's Stone, because he, like the souls in the stone, is separated from his body and most strongly recognizes their experience and humanity and helplessness. He said, "We'll fight together."
Something about how when they commit the taboo, though both brothers had an equal part in it, it was Ed's idea. Ed signed off their research. Al was helping his brother.
Something about how Al sacrifices himself to contain Pride, and how in the end he uses Alkahestry, the healing art, to sacrifice his soul to save his brother's life, giving up everything, using alchemy for a good and selfless end.
Something about what Al says in the epilogue about breaking Equivalent Exchange to give more back, because he's ultimately come to the conclusion that the only thing he wants to do with alchemy is help people. How in his humility he has given himself up for the sake of others, and he would do it again in a heartbeat.
He doesn't lose his alchemy to complete his character arc because alchemy isn't a source of pride for him. It's an amazing tool and philosophy that saved his life, and that's exactly the kind of thing he wants to use it for.
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just started watching fullmetal alchemist brotherhood and oh these parallels
This idea that the Uchiha were selfish and put their family above everything else is so obviously false based on the story, and a mere example of how of Konoha's leading class projected their faults on them.
In the warring era, some evil Uchiha abused a powerful jutsu to unfairly gain power, and what did the rest of the Uchiha do? Turn their backs and let them? No, they made a counterjutsu to confront them and put an end to the problem.
Madara had just lost his brother, was broken in pain. And what, did he go crazy so-called-curse-of-hatred mode? No, he gave up justice for the person he loved most in the world in exchange of peace, just because he believed Hashirama, his enemy, was offering a treaty in good faith.
Madara finds Hashirama is a shameless liar and tries to get the Uchiha to break the treaty, what do the Uchiha do? Follow him and resume war just because he is Uchiha? No, they explicitly discredit him and send him away.
Sasuke finds that Konoha murdered his whole family just because its leaders were power thirsty genocidal jerks, does he just go and automatically join Obito and Madara because they are Uchiha? No, he summons his enemies to hear their part of the story and ends up fighting against the two evil Uchiha to help save the village.
They are profiled and accused of acting on hatred and emotions, when over and over again we are shown evidence that they do what is fair. Even when they are targeted, mistrusted and treated like enemies.
You know who puts their own above the village, above peace, above justice and above whatever is needed? Freaking Konoha's leadership. Hashirama put his brother above everything, risking the treaty and Konoha, letting him do racist crap as he pleased. He put him above everyone's safety letting him develop the evil zombie army jutsu. Hiruzen put his student and friend above everything, turning a blind eye to their crimes. Naruto himself is putting his own interests and his predecessors above everything, never holding the advisors responsible for their crimes, sweeping everything under the rug.
All lies, all vicious slander to justify their crimes.
the entire curse of hatred was always just projection, especially from tobirama.
On one level I feel like Sasuke’s idealization of Itachi towards the end is mostly a product of Kishimoto’s desire to have all the characters glorify Itachi and treat him like a saint so he can have his tragic plot twist hero character and no one questions how fucked up it is and so he can erase the rest of Sasuke’s clan and connections to his family but on the other I do think elements of it are realistic given how Obito kept telling Sasuke how much Itachi sacrificed for him and how his own sense of purpose and ideals and sense of self had already been tied to Itachi (antagonistically) for so long through trying to kill him, and how desperate he was to be loved in a way that connected him to his family. And he didn’t actually really believe that what Itachi did was right—if he had he wouldn’t have yelled at him for answers when he came back and he wouldn’t have chosen to oppose Konoha and the kages and essentially gone directly against everything Itachi stood for. I think the fact that on a very fundamental level he opposes the ideology that Itachi upheld but still feels a certain empathy for him and responsibility to him and contextualizes his worldview in reference to him does sort of make sense in a very sad way even if he would be completely justified in feeling nothing but hatred for him forever. I don’t think it was a good choice to have him refer to him in such heroic/valorizing terms though, and if that was going to be the case I wish we had seen a progression that didn’t result in concession to Konoha wherein he could accept that seeing Itachi in any kind of heroic light was deeply inaccurate and unhealthy
To be clear though I think this was all executed in a completely nonsensical way and was tied to how Kishimoto made Sasuke’s final plan really bad so he could justify discounting his ideology, and I really dislike how it played out overall, but I do think it had potential to be realistic and meaningful if it was handled with more nuance and Itachi’s character was thoroughly condemned
Yes yes exactly!!! Any form of this would be great. I think it would have been interesting if the stage where he really clings to Itachi’s memory was a temporary one, and maybe after Itachi comes back and fails to really give him any answers or admit that anything he did was wrong he seeks out more information about his clan and reforms his worldview based on his parents’ views
@akatsukitrash Yes this too!!!
I don't understand why people think Sasuke loving Itachi and forgiving him somehow makes Itachi a good person. No, it just shows how good of a person Sasuke is.
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