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when James Baldwin said I canāt be a pessimist because Iām alive
when James Baldwin said to be a pessimist means that you have agreed that human life is an academic matter. So I am forced to be an optimist. I am forced to believe that we can survive whatever we must survive.
one of my fears as an active zutara shipper is being harrassed by zutaranti and their followers cuz they usually push the narrative that only white/non-poc folks ship the ship but im literally south east asian from a colonized country :sob:
So this is actually a super old 4-koma (please read right to left) I made for a ZK Gift Exchange event 2 years ago in 2024 but I figured that I would also upload it here for fun while I prepare for another event if you know you know *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
This feels like a scam on the citizens...
Scambio di elementi
Signore dell acqua Zuko e Katara della tribĆ¹ del sole
kataang shippers are so fucking embarrassing
Once when I was in undergrad, someone described something as āproblematicā in class and our professor was like, āThatās cool, but āproblematicā doesnāt really mean anything. It means that the thing youāre describing has a problem, and in and of itself thatās not bad. Art, especially, should always have problems, or else itās not interesting and not art, either. It sounds like youāre trying to say that this is bad, but you donāt want to say ābad.ā Is that right?ā
So from then on whenever one of us called something problematic, he would make us talk it out until we could name the ābadā thing we were hinting at. In this particular class, 7/10 it was some type of oppression, and the remainder was like, āIām uncomfortable because this is very new/confusing/pushing boundaries that made me feel safe.ā
Once we stopped calling things āproblematicā and stopping at that, class got way more interesting and... we all had to say, like, āthatās racistā or āthatās misogynisticā or āew capitalism grossā out loud, which a lot of us had never done in a classroom before. Or we had to be like, āUhhh... Iām not sure whatās so bad?ā and confront our own beliefs and that was maybe even more useful.
Anyway. Whenever I see the word problematic, I canāt help but think of this professor being like, āGood starting point, now letās get specific.ā I think when we have to commit to saying āthatās ___ā it requires a lot more careful thought about the truth and impact and complexities of whatever weāre claiming. Sometimes there really is some bullshit afoot, and also sometimes itās art, and it should be full of problems, because thatās what art is.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't really think that situation will be calm for so long (after cancelling zkanti).
Just let natla come out and everything will be lit in fire again.
If I had a nickel for everytime I see this behaviour of someone appearing and doing the fandom's dirty work, and people supporting them and their harassment and belittling other real people over fiction I would have two nickels. It's not surprising nor crazy for me to see because I did experience bullying with this pattern in real life too.
And seeing zutaranti getting cancelled and people saying "I've always hated how that person acts" is also not a very uncommon income, very annoying, but expected
It's just so disappointing to see this over and over again, the people pinning on "the big bad evil" and call it done, when many of them are the reason they're big in the first place.
Also I kinda saw the racism from a mile as that person was reblogging avatarfandompolice , but calling kkk "American politics" and "slander content" is crazy, aside from that lame apology full of buts. What a very unpleasant individual.
canon btw
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I had a vision.
(rly lazy art mb)
'katara and aang are about two genocide survivors finding commonality in that and making a family together!' wow great! i love reading that letter where katara got to pass down some SWT heritage to tenzin -
okay...maybe not. maybe the grandkids have some SWT culture incorporated into their designs -
and no, the blue-grey eyes don't count because if i have to use a color picker to see what color their eyes are to determine who their grandmother is, you may have fucked up
or how about when aang really understands katara -
*cue the last half of season 3 where aang either talks down to katara or the writers didn't think to put anything in to help the relationship*
*cue the movie having a scene where aang yells at katara that she doesn't understand why he's so desparate to get the staff*
yikes
guys. i don't know how to tell you this, but i don't think two white men still licking their wounds from when their first crush didn't work out a decade before they made their show was putting katara and aang together for progressive reasons. i'm glad you found a way to weave in a progressive reason, but stop giving bryke the credit where there isn't any
When first hearing about the death of Kataraās mother, one of these guys is less empathetic than the others.
To respond to this comment from @mizumanta, let me first say that I agree with @firelxdykataraās comment in response to the above:
he had no idea his people were actually completely wiped out in this scene. he still thinks he's going to find a bunch of them at the temple. he isn't even considering the possibility--and he doesn't take a moment to express any compassion for katara's loss. that's the point here.
Aang was still under the impression that his people were not completely wiped out, and is therefore not grieving in this scene. He has no grieving reason to not express any compassion for the loss of Kataraās mother, which Katara is mentioning to him for the first time. Heck, he doesnāt even respond to what she said about the loss of her mother here. He completely ignores the fact that Katara just stated that her mother was killed by the Fire Nation, and proceeds to talk about his people, who he is certain are still not wiped out. Is a response as simple as, I donāt know, "Iām sorry for your loss" so hard to say to Katara?? Aang showed no attempt to comfort or empathize with Katara in this scene, when it came to her motherās death. I donāt think one could argue otherwise, considering the fact that he literally didnāt even respond to her mentioning her momās murder.
I find what you seem to be trying to imply here to be false, that it is okay for Aang to not show compassion to Katara, because his people faced genocide. You say "I think he gets to focus on himself on this one," but the thing is, itās not just on "this one" instance. When Katara was trying to process Kyaās death in TSR, Aang focused too much on what he thought of what Katara was doing to process her own festering pain, what his people taught him, what he felt was the right thing for Katara to do. Compare that to how Katara treated Aang and his losses. Katara tried to prepare Aang for his losses, tried to protect Aang from the hurt of knowing about his losses, and comforted Aang on his losses. Katara always showed such understanding and compassion to Aang when it came to him processing his losses. Why couldnāt the same courtesy have been extended back?
Another comment under this post is this comment from @nakaebabo:
Like I already said, is a response as simple as "Iām sorry for your loss" so hard for Aang to say to Katara?? An explanation does not always serve as an excuse. And even then, I donāt think that this explanation works well in this situation. Let me explain with an analogy. If Person A tells Person B that Person Aās sister recently died, one would expect Person B to at least say "Iām sorry for your loss" to Person A, even if Person B is an only child, and never had a sister. Aang did not need to have lost a mother for him to not ignore the fact that Katara told him that the Fire Nation murdered her mother.
But yes, I do agree with your last sentence. Aangās treatment towards Katara in TSR is definitely worth critiquing, I think. As I said in my tags of the original post, I think we can judge just how supported Katara felt by Aang when it came to the topic of her motherās death by the last look she gave Aang by the end of the episode, and the look of relief on her face when she looked away from him and towards Zuko.
Iām going to respond to these comments from @dakln1995 in a reblog from my last reblog of this post, because I feel like some of what I already said there can be applied here.
Look, I'm all for freedom of shipping. If you wanna ship Kataang, great. If you wanna ship Zutara, great! I love all ships, ships are wonderful.
I agree that you should be allowed to ship Zutara if you want to, Kataang if you want to, both, neither, or whatever.
"But like, this is a bad example to put down Aang for being unempathetic."
Regarding "putting down" characters, let me just say that I tagged this post as "aang critical" for a reason. When you tag a post as " *insert character here* critical," it means that the post is going to be criticizing that character for something. If you do not like posts criticizing Aang, why were you looking at and responding to my post tagged as "aang critical" ?? I would suggest blocking the "aang critical" tag if you do not like posts that hold Aang accountable for his actions. I love Aang, but I do think that there are times when his actions should be criticized.
Think about the situation; he's just been woken up after a hundred years, and doesn't yet fully grasp the scope of the war, and isn't aware of the genocide of his people yet. He's also 12. He's been friends with Fire Nation peeps. To Aang, what Katara is describing is completely ridiculous, and he's in denial of the situation. Again, he's also TWELVE.
Iām aware that he is 12. It shows in his maturity level during many instances throughout the show. And I agree that he just woke up, doesnāt fully understand the scope of the war, and isnāt aware of the genocide of his people. Aang is as upbeat and alright as ever right then, so there is no excuse for him not even offering Katara an "Iām sorry for your loss" in this scene.
So, in this moment, he does brush off the comment that "they killed my mother" because it's not a reality to him yet. He doesn't understand, the facts are in conflict with what he knows.
Are you seriously trying to argue that Aang doesnāt even respond to Katara saying that the Fire Nation murdered her mother because "itās not a reality to him yet"? That itās not yet a reality to Aang that the Fire Nation killed Kya, even though itās literally what Katara just told him?? I think that what you are implying when you add on to this, saying "the facts are in conflict with what he knows," is that Aang doesnāt actually believe Katara when she says that the Fire Nation killed her mother. Which is...quite the reach, to say the least.
Why the heck would Aang not believe Katara when she tells him that her own mother was killed by the Fire Nation? I mean, do you really think that in this scene, Aang thinks that he knows more about whether Kataraās mother is dead or alive than Katara herself?? There is no evidence that what is "not a reality to him yet" is Kyaās death. What is not a reality to Aang yet is the genocide of his own people, as Aang states. He never expresses any disbelief that the Fire Nation killed Kya, he expresses disbelief that the Fire Nation killed his own people. So, no, you cannot excuse Aangās actions here by saying that he had disbelief in the fact that Kya was murdered by the Fire Nation, so he didnāt respond to Katara saying that.
Does that mean he lacks empathy? In that moment, yeah, but later on in that very episode, that attitude changes right away...
Iāve already disproved the "that" in your question "does that mean he lacks empathy?" when I disproved your argument that the reason Aang didnāt respond to Kyaās murder by the Fire Nation is because he was in disbelief of Kya being murdered by the Fire Nation. So Iām not going to respond to that question.
And no, I donāt think that you can argue that "that attitude" changes later on in that very episode. Katara again brings up the murder of Kya only once more in the episode, at the very end, when Aang was too caught up and unstable in the Avatar State to respond to it. So, to be fair to Aang, he could not exactly empathize with Katara while he was in the Avatar State. But if he wanted, he couldāve afterwards, when he got out of the state. But he didnāt. Aang said "sorry" at the end of the episode because of him going into the Avatar State and almost blowing Katara and Sokka off of a mountain. That "sorry" was not in response to the murder of Kya. There was no "Iām sorry about the loss of your mother, Katara" or similar by the end of the episode to show Aang empathizing with Katara on the topic of Kyaās death. It was yet again Katara who brought up Kyaās murder at the end of the episode, and it was yet again Aang who did not address it. Because he did not even address the murder of Kya later on in that episode (not that he did at the beginning of the episode either), it is safe to say that Aang does not prove later on in the episode that he is now empathetic towards Katara on the topic of the murder of Kya. So where is the solid evidence for this "change in attitude" that you speak of in terms of Aang showing compassionate empathy for the murder of Kya?? We certainly donāt see any effects of such a thing in TSR, when Aang was rather insensitive to Kataraās feeling when she wanted closure for her motherās death. Speaking of that, letās move on to the last point.
It's almost as if character growth like that was the whole point of the damn show
Character growth like what? Aang going from ignoring Katara mentioning Kyaās murder to him for the first time in "The Southern Air Temple," to Aang being judgmental of Katara and not giving her the emotional support she needed when she wanted to get closure for the murder of her mother in "The Southern Raiders"?
Character growth indeed. You can tell by the way Katara glares at Aang, and the relief on her face when she looks away from Aang and towards Zuko at the end of TSR (the episode that focuses on Katara processing her feelings about Kyaās murder) that she felt like Aang ended up being very empathetic to her when it came to her motherās murder (/s).
One head canon that Iām unreasonably passionate about is Zuko MUST have help Katara with the domestic work like cooking and cleaning. You canāt tell me he didnāt, I will not listen to you.
but youāre right. Katara told me herself how much she appreciated Zuko helping out with the chores, and she didnāt even have to force or bribe him!
I definitely think this is supported by canon!
Since Iām on a 10 hour road trip and have nothing better to do, I went through screencaps of the episodes of book 3 and I noticed that the number of scenes where Katara does housework drastically decreases after Zuko joins the gaang.
In The Painted Lady, Katara is shown getting dinner for everyone while Sokka goes over his (extremely long lmao) schedule.
In The Runaway, when Sokka, Aang, and Toph come back from their money-making scheme, they return to Katara cooking. And leave all of the groceries/supplies they bought with her, so itās natural to assume sheāll be the one dealing with them. Then, in a later scene, Katara is sitting next to the cooking pot and feeding Appa, while Aang eats in the background.
In Day of the Black Sun, while Sokka goes over the invasion plan, Katara gets him a drink. (Not exactly a chore, but it does show how she is responsible for taking care of everyone elseās well-being).
In The Western Air Temple, Katara is shown getting meals ready for Aang, Sokka, Toph, Haru, Teo, and the Duke.
In the beginning of The Firebending Masters, the night that Zuko joins, Zuko watches the group in front of the campfire, where Katara is serving everyoneās dinner.
And thatās it. We donāt see Katara doing anymore chores in the background after Zuko officially joins the group, except for when she makes watermelon juice for the group in Sozinās Comet (although that seems like less of a necessary chore and more of just a special treat she made for fun).
I only went through the episodes in the final season, but there are many more scenes of Katara doing household work in the background in the other two seasons, usually all on her own. The only chore I observed the others doing this season, besides Sokka keeping everyone on schedule, was shopping - in just one episode.
Even though Zuko hasnāt been with the gaang for long, heās the only other person we see serving the group.
Especially taking into account his behavior around Katara, it makes sense that he would be helping her out with the chores.
In The Southern Raiders, heās carrying their bag for her, and later, heās the one doing the packing. He tells Katara she should get some rest - literally the only time anyone in the gaang ever asks Katara to look after her own needs - and itās shown later that they switched places and Katara looks more well-rested.
Given that part of Zukoās arc involves working in customer service, Iām sure heās very familiar with doing chores without being told.
Purely speculation on my part, but in this scene from Sozinās Comet, the group already has their food and are eating while Katara was off in the attic. My theory? Zuko served dinner. Since she was looking for pots, Katara probably still does at least some of the cooking, but it seems plausible that Zuko might help out with prep, serving, and/or cleaning.
Unlike the first half of book 3, where Katara is often doing chores in the background, after Zuko joins, she has much more free time and seems more relaxed. She watches Aang and Zuko train (with Toph and on her own) and goes surfing at the beach.
And this just fits in with Zukoās personality. You canāt convince me that Zuko - the boy who is so set on making a good impression on the gaang, especially Katara - wouldnāt help out whenever he could. It probably drives Katara nuts at first because she feels like heās trying to take over āher territory,ā but slowly she comes to appreciate his presence when she realizes that he just genuinely wants to make things easier for her.
Kataang stans: "Zutaras are disgusting for always sexualizing Katara an Indigenous woman"
Kataang stans: "For the Zutaraās who make Katara promiscuous, it is a racist and harmful stereotype to indigenous people.-"
Also Kataang stans:"-katara would have fucked aang in front of a crowd in Republic city-"
I don't even have to say anything, this shit writes itself. Even better it just shows up in the Zutara tag, wrapped all pretty with a bow.
This reminds me of when Zutara's had a moment with throne sex, authors and artists often put Zuko on his knees and prioritized Katara's pleasure while acknowledging her leadership/power.
I keep finding it odd how very different Katara is treated depending on who she's shipped with and how fans view her within their respective ships.
Here we go again with some K*A shipper saying how dare you have shipping preference!!! how could you be so stupid??? don't you see???? the CANONNNN it's all right there? Like omg
Kat.aa.ng shippers: Here's a list of reasons why you shouldn't ship zutara. What about A.a.ng's feelings? These are the rules.
Zutara shippers: Whelp time to write and draw MORE Zutara.
Kat.aa.ng shippers: wait, no-- that's not allowed because that's not canon!
Zutara shippers: and you know, let's throw in a dash of anti kat.aa.ng so Katara will end up with Zuko.
Kat.aa.ng shippers: you can't do that! It's against the rules of shipping!
Zutara shippers: and just for that, someone will make a side of anti-A.ang.
Kat.aa.ng shippers: you people are so mean!
Unfortunately, this is how I'm starting to see kat.A.ang shippers:
Here we go again with some K*A shipper saying how dare you have shipping preference!!! how could you be so stupid??? don't you see???? the CANONNNN it's all right there? Like omg
