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What would have happened if the Howling commandos learned about Bucky having been brainwashed by Hydra, and if maybe nobody but Peggy, Howard, and Phillips knew Zola had been hired, so the commandos would have learned about both at the same time
Well the problem there is you'd have to come up with a reason why they're not in SHIELD too, if there were Nazis involved. Because you have to think they would've blowed the fuck out of that whistle if they had come on board and seen Zola wandering around the bunker.
So maybe Peggy & Co went out of their way not to invite the Howlies on board, to prevent that scenario.
And maybe the Howlies would've objected to SHIELD on principle 'Steve wouldn't wanted an alphabet agency named after him / you shouldn't be pretending you were close to him / stealing our valour to make you look good.'
Like there are definite ways you could explain their absence and apparent ignorance, why there would've been schisms between them and Stark etc.
But the problem is that by the time the reveal comes they would've been either dead or very, very old (remember, they were all older than Steve and Bucky so the chances of them even still being around are slim to none.)
Like I do have a headcanon of post-WS tracking the Howlies down for visits and finding that not only does he not remember them, but they're so old they don't remember him.
(Plus Steve's horror when he is informed that SHIELDra lied to him and, actually, all his friends were still alive when he woke up in the future, but have since died / become too frail to remember him, and Steve needn't have been alone from the beginning.)
(Althought I did once have a fun idea for a The Last Hero style fic, where all the Howlies are still alive and compos mentis and living in the same old folks home when Steve wakes up in the future.
So when they see on the news that Cap is back, they all escape the home to go and help him fight the aliens (whom they keep calling 'Nazi Scum' out of habit.) And Bucky as the beefy exasperated care home worker who has to chase after and recapture them while they're trying to steal guns and fight aliens. Cue: Bucky saving Steve from an alien by using an old man in a wheelchair as a battering ram. đ)
Another thing to consider, if we're really giving the Howlies the best antifa backstory they deserve, is... what have they been up to in all the intervening years?
Because there is a possibility they would've discovered SHIELD's fascism in their own terms, and probably been killed for it.
Like: Gabe surely would become a prominent figure in the Civil Rights movement, right? You know Hydra would've been involved in assassinating those kind of people. What if Gabe was killed? What if TWS was the one sent to do it? Or maybe Gabe was attending, eg. the speech Malcolm X was delivering in NYC when he was assassinated, and saw someone who looks just like Bucky shoot him?
As fun as the idea of them all being still alive is, age aside I just can't visualise a scenario where they'd all have survived long enough to find out about Bucky. Not if we're doing right by them as individual characters. đ€
Steve Rogers is fiercely loyal to those he trusts
He expects it in return
In this scene Steve let's himself to be captured. He is at his worst after losing Bucky but he still has a mission. For all he knows hydra could have killed him but he can't let that happen. He trusts his comrades enough to arrive in time. That is the level of respect he had for them.
He surely trusted others that joined the war efforts. Trusted Howard to make better equipment. Trusted Philips and the agents to provide proper Intel.
Biggest thing that keeps Steve Rogers going is the loyalty. He is loyal to those he trusts and he expects it in return.
That's why he loses it when he finds Fury and Nat kept Intel from him. But later he learns it was with good intentions.
So when he punches the computer it's not a silly act. He just learned that the people whom he used to trust hired and conspired with the very nazi Bucky died capturing. The establishment that those people worked harbors the brain of hydra.
Some people whom he trusted with his life, have supported the very organisation he died destroying.
They have been disloyal to him due to the hunger for power.
It's the biggest betrayal by Steve's standerds.
Why aren't more people talking about this?!
They knew who Zola was. You don't get into a high-level position in an organization like hydra without reason. And Zola was one of the if not the highest-ranking hydra scientists. They knew he had tortured Bucky and that Bucky had âdiedâ capturing him. Hiring and freeing Zola was a complete betrayal of Steve and Bucky, even if they both had actually died.
They trusted Zola with freedom and a bunch of resources. Zola used that to regrow hydra and to find Bucky and torture him into the winter soldier. Why would they trust Zola like that? What about Zola suggests that he was trustworthy in any way?! Howard was even friendly enough to be on a first-name basis with Zola. The man who had tortured one of his former coworkers and then said coworker had given his life capturing. How could anyone move past that and become friends?! It certainly makes Howard's death way less sad. It's just a shame that Bucky got more trauma from it.
Were they all beyond completely incompetent? Or were they, or at least some of them in on it? I mean, Howard recognizing Bucky like that was very suspicious.
Does Bucky know? It's not hard to imagine that Zola would taunt him with it before they started wiping his mind. Just the whole âyou think they can help you, how do you think I got hereâ kind of thing.
Just what the hell were they thinking?!! And for some reason, they completely destroyed Steves character arc by having him go back to them. It's ridiculous!!
I keep thinking how personal this betrayal was. As OP said, firstly itâs the fact that the very person responsible for Buckyâs death, the very people that Steve almost died trying to bring down, were recruited by the people he thought were his allies and given VIP treatment for the long century that he had spent in the ice. And secondly, they had the audacity to name the organisation after him (SHIELD is a backronym) while harbouring the very people who had hurt him most personally.
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Digging this out of my old drafts:
There is a strange poetic parallel (or poetic irony, depending on your point of view) in what Peggy says to Steve as he mourns Bucky, and what Steve says back to her when she pleads with him not to tank the plane.
Peggy: It wasn't your fault. Steve: (If you read the report) You know that's not true. Peggy: Did you believe in your friend? Did you respect him? Then stop blaming yourself. Allow Barnes the dignity of his choice.
Peggy: Please don't do this. We have time. We can work it out. Steve: (...) Peggy, this is my choice.
I mean, firstly, this is textual proof that Bucky's last act was a conscious choice to protect Steve. Secondly, the bitter irony of that line once you take into consideration what follows - of Hydra, enabled by SHIELD, stripping away the dignity of Bucky's choice (as well as his ability to make a choice).
But Steve's pointed wording is...interesting. Even in the kindest of readings, he is using her own words against her. During a time when she's upset and vulnerable, he uses the exact words she gave him when he was upset and vulnerable. "Give me the dignity of my choice," he tells her while dismissing her appeal to consider other options.
And it makes me wonder what exactly did Steve feel when Peggy said that to him. Bucky didn't board the train planning to die, and he didn't protect Steve with the intention to die. Death was a risk, but it was far from the explicit choice that Steve was making here which (as far as he was concerned) equated to certain death.
Had it really been a comfort to Steve to hear that Bucky should be the one to take the brunt of the responsibility as "the dignity of his choice"? When that hadn't been the explicit choice he made? Did those words really serve to alleviate his guilt when both of them knew the only reason Bucky made the choice was for him?
In the end, Steve wasn't allowed the dignity of his choice when he woke up in the 21st century...and he would learn, to his horror, neither was Bucky.
Iâve finally put my finger on why her wording bothered me so much. Itâs her going to a grieving person, someone whoâs grieving the guy he grew up with and spent years fighting back to back, who she saw he believed enough to risk his own life to go find alone â and saying, âdid you believe him? Did you respect him?â At best it shows her full ignorance about the type of person Steve is and the value he places in his comrades, at worst itâs presumptuous (who is she to comment on their relationship?) and belittling (how dare she suggest that he didnât respect someone he spent a lifetime with?). Iâd also say itâs an extraordinarily unkind thing to say to someone who lost their comrade on the frontline, because thereâs nothing more important to a team of soldiers that they trust each other (a value Steve emphasises in CATWS), and to suggest to a grieving soldier that he didnât believe in his fellow officer just entrenches my belief that she was never at the frontline herself.
Itâs also such a weirdass equivalence, to say that his guilt, which is a normal part of his grief, amounted to disrespect. What caps it off is that the alternative perspective she offers, that it was Buckyâs âchoiceâ, doesnât actually relieve Steve of his guilt because Bucky made that choice for Steve. It emasculates Steveâs role in that incident. Part of grief is the powerlessness people feel about whatâs transpired. Steve is trying to get drunk and is even denied that. He has so little control over what reality has hit him with, and a lot of the guilt stems from his wish to have some control. Sheâs basically walked in to say to a broken man well actually your role in this is unimportant and you would always have been powerless to change it.
Iâm not saying this would have been the right or better answer cos Iâm coming off from a Korean revenge drama high, but the words that wouldâve made her seem more like a mentor in that moment would be along the lines of, âYour friend made a choice, and this is not the Steve he would have wanted to see. Letâs honour his memory by turning your anger into a weapon, and make the people who killed him pay.â
Recently in "strangely encouraging conversations with dementia patients"...
90yo woman, at least 20 years unmoored in time, with a reputation for grumpiness: You're a man?!
Me, 28yo trans man with a very small beard, rare male nursing/healthcare staff member for this area: Yes.
90yo: Are you sure?
Me: Yes.
90yo: Are you looking to be a boy or a man or a woman?
Me: I'm a man.
90yo: You'd be very pretty as a girl.
Me: Thank you.
90yo: You're a girl with a beard?
Me: It's just my face.
90yo: You should shave it so people will see you're a girl.
Me: That's why I grow it.
90yo: You should grow it so people will see you're a man.
Me: This is as long as it gets right now.
90yo: Is it your hormones?
Me: Yes, they were a bit low.
90yo: Are you a girl growing into a man?
Me: Yes, I'm a man.
90yo: You're a very good man.
Another conversation which was both lighter and sadder...
80yo woman, friendly and polite, sitting next to an empty bed (neatly made): I'll just get him up for you. Alan, wake up, the nurse is here!
Me: No need, I'm just here for you today. He can rest.
80yo: All right, Alan is just snoozing.
Me: How long have you been married?
80yo: We're not married.
Me: Oh, who is Alan to you?
80yo: He's my husband, we've been married over 60 years.
Me: Does he snore?
80yo: Yes, terribly!
This person has a brain injury rather than dementia. I've seen him a few times, I know him a little though he will never know me.
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Me: How are you, this fine day?
70yo: It's fucking horrible!
Me, gobsmacked because he has never before said a word to me or showed me he was aware of the not-immediate world: You're absolutely right.
I have a family member with dementia who often calls on the phone asking to be picked up and taken home, or to the store, or to school. The other day she called and asked if her husband was going to pick her up, and I said, "do you mean [Paul]? You aren't married to him anymore."
She said, "Really? I'm not married?"
"No, you haven't been married to him for thirty years."
"Oh, thank goodness. I did not enjoy that marriage at all."
My grandma had dementia far before I was born and until she passed at my tail end of high school. She had always lived in a facility from my time knowing her. She had 11 living bio children not counting her stepchildren and nieces/nephews she also took in. Uncountable amount of grandchildren and great grandchildren. Affectionately referred as a bitch and badass throughout life as a nurse by profession and overall caretaker to all. We had a family blog to keep tabs on who was visiting and when to what we did and what she said will all of her days documented. I enjoyed visiting her as a neurodivergent child because the facility was naturally designed to be less sensory overstimulating for the memory care patients. I would play dominos and chat with every older folk who wanted to. The nurses and aides enjoyed my presence as it often helped soothed the pricklier of the patients who were more prone to aggression in their confusion. Plus a lot of the patients were not as lucky as my grandmother who had so many to visit her.
I was often mistaken by these folks by other people in their life by name and timeline. I didnât really mind this. They knew I was someone they felt safe around and they were always happy to see me as a child was rare to come by.
My grandma was never a big talker in her twilight days but I loved to tell her everything and anything. She never really got anyone elseâs name right as far as her family but she always knew mine and would use memory care phone to call her adult children at random hours of the day and night to tell them about me by name in accurate detail.
Every so often she would grab my hand when she wanted to tell me important life advice. It would include anything from how to hide money from my husband in budgeting to how to best ditch my high school classes to get the roller rink without being caught.
One time while playing dominos with just us, she reached over and told me, âItâll get hard. The days will get terribly long and the months will feel so short but thereâs so much in those moments between and that love will carry.â
And you know? I think Grandma was right.
Don't let the haters confuse you.... if there's someone Sam stans, even that group you talk about, defend, that's Ava. however, what thunderbolts unleashed has been crazy. those are the most racists stans I've ever seen and listen, bucky is my favorite character ever, however, what they did with him is crazy. as of right now, he's a traitor to every person who's ever helped him and happens that all those people are Black so he does look low-key racist and I hate it. fucking writers and fucking movie.
Hmm yeah, Iâve never been a fan of the direction they took by making Bucky the one to break Zemo out and later getting caught between Wakanda and Zemo. It made me even more annoyed (later) to hear that Sebastian had to literally âhe wouldnât say thatâ to the scriptwriters in his scenes with Ayo.
I see the âBucky is betraying Wakanda again by working with Valâ discussion a lot, but aside from us not knowing whether Val is still around by the post credit scene, is it public knowledge that Val was behind the conflict with Namor that eventually escalated to the invasion of Wakanda? My memory of BP2 is a bit vague so I donât know if it got out that CIA was behind it or if Val covered it up with some other excuse. It also wasnât super clear from TB how much Bucky knew about what Val had done. He was definitely keeping a close eye on her but I donât think it was ever clear what aroused his suspicion. After all we saw in TB how good Val is at managing public image so people might not be aware she was behind the attack on Namor. I am not entirely sure we can pin Namor attacking Wakanda on Val, because a lot of that was escalating anger about situations that were out of everyoneâs control.
But we never get a clear explanation of why Bucky became a congressman or why heâs pursuing Val. At this point I donât think the writers ever think about his motivations anymore.
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There is quite literally a database being compiled of full names, social media handles, and in some cases employers of people who have made fun of him or celebrated his death. Some of the submissions are screenshots of DMs or close friends stories, I'm sure many are also from private accounts, meaning whoever submitted it was not assumed by the poster to be someone who would literally doxx them in a searchable online database
This is a great time to consider setting any social media profiles attached to your real life, name, and/or face to private and remove anyone you don't trust from your followers. Review your digital footprint and work backwards. How easy would it be, based on things you've said online, for someone to find your real identity and location?
cnn article about the coordinated right wing effort to ruin the lives of people who celebrate kirk's death or refuse to express sympathy or even criticize him. The website is compiling a searchable database doxxing kirk's critics claim they have received 30,000 submissions. some of those will be duplicates, especially when it comes to high profile individuals, and some will be troll submissions, but based on what I have seen (which is purely anecdotal, but that's really all we have at the moment), I think most of them are not. Literal congresspeople are participating in this harassment campaign.
I have seen totally normal people on reddit asking for advice because they posted a meme on Instagram, someone reported them to this website, and now they, their families, and their workplaces are being inundated with harassment and death threats. They are confused and terrified because nothing like this has ever happened to them and they never thought it would. They're not influencers, they're not activists, they're not chronic posters in niche online communities.
The goal of this campaign is not just to drive people to delete their posts or profiles, it's to ruin their lives. As one person put it in the replies of a video game dev who was fired from Sony put it, "She's been fired. When she finds work somewhere else, we will get her fired again, and again, and again."
This isn't to say that we shouldn't speak publicly about our opinions or refuse to participate in this whitewashing of kirk and his work. But we should do so intentionally and remain aware of the risks. Most of these posts people are being targeted over are not thoughtful statements, they're off the cuff reactions or memes. We are in a state of unprecedented online surveillance at a time when many people's real lives are also virtually inseparable from their online lives
great article from margaret killjoy to get you thinking about how to reduce your digital footprint
This shit scares me because Iâve been on tumblr for 15+ years. While I donât have my name on my tumblr, I do pay for tumblr premium, so that means my email and card info is associated with it. I could change the email, and use a throw-away card, but I donât know if thatâs enough?? Online privacy is rapidly deteriorating, especially as the UK and EU move to usher in Chinese-style surveillance - surely the US isnât far behind.
Whatâs the balance between âobeying in advancedâ and âprotecting myselfâ? How concerned should I be when I donât live in America? When Iâm not âimportantâ. When my tumblr account isnât visible to non-tumblr users anyway?
We are living in scary times. Itâs gonna take smarts, wisdom, grit, and kindness to outwit and outlive all of this.
If it is working, Comrade Trump will break it.
Everyone seems allergic to the word, but Charlie Kirk was not an activist, he was a propagandist. Turning Point was a meme factory backed by a billionaire designed to steer kids towards Christian Nationalism. He didnât advocate for policy; he spun narratives to change beliefs. Propaganda.
no, actually, i canât be friends with someone who has opposing political views. this is mostly due to the fact my views are âpeople deserve rightsâ
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I love that the modern-day tumblr post equivalent of chain emails only requires me to reblog a relatively pleasant image instead of forward an email to a bunch of my friends and family members to quell my raging anxiety.
Situations reversed? TRump and minions would be cracking crude jokes about getting what was deserved and then ignore the whole thing. So would the media.
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