awliterate

originally was going to be an original story archive but i scrapped it for political opinions i'm an ex-feminist humanist Nice to meet you

[madameweirdo]

Girl I like: I don’t consider myself a feminist– Me: wow suddenly I don’t find you attractive anymore??

[egalitarians-do-it-better]

I’m pretty sure that girl doesn’t exist just so you can find her to be attractive. She’s a person with her own opinions and reasoning for said opinions. Get over it.

[you-feminist-idiots-deactivated]

That’s like a man no longer liking a woman because he learns she’s smarter than him.

[rainystag-deactivated20161213]

There is nothing wrong with this person finding inequality and close-mindedness unattractive. They are, like that girl, entitled to their own opinions and have reasoning for those opinions so get over yourselves. If someone believed that inequality between genders should remain at large I wouldn’t find them attractive either.

[awliterate]

except “someone not calling themselves a feminist” doesn’t mean they can’t value gender equality anyway. They might feel more comfortable representing themselves and their views independently and not falling back on third-party associations for example. You can't know someone's views intimately just because they do or don't identify as something. People are a lot more diverse than that, and so won't all neatly fit into feminism's 'box'. Nor is that individuality an ‘evil’ problem. And if you only base your opinion of people on labels (which is a shallow quick identification that lacks context and further assessment, considering people also use labels in different personalized positive or negative ways, so a lot of nuance that is overlooked), it's not a wonder you'll miss out on cool people that might share the same values as you but just express it harmlessly in a different way (which is natural ideological diversity and shouldn't be shamed) and/or meet people that labeled as something but turned out to be assholes anyway. (e.g. radfems/terfs/ect) Labels aren't foolproof or the end all, be all. Those who use them that way exhibit a close-mindedness and inability to think beyond black and white themselves.

So not being attracted to inequality itself would only make sense in this case if the girl op mentioned didn't think equality or human rights were a good thing. But that’s not what she really said, is it. She just didn’t meet their standards of calling it feminism, which then makes said standards all that much more asinine -when a label (with an inconsistent history of being abused) takes precedence over the basic ideal of equality, which should matter a fuckton more than you having arbitrarily different words for it.

[anti-feminist-pug-deactivated20]

Imagine that your partner has been hitting you. Yelling at you. You’ve been married for a few years, you’re both in your 30s, you have a little daughter, and everything you do seems to be wrong. You’ve been made fun of, mocked and

[awliterate]

Fair enough. If that's your way of expressing you care, that's fine. Still, while I understand your frustration even if we have differing opinions on the gendered status of general feminism, you maybe should not use the few posts about male victims as a tool to redeem feminism's reputation. There is a time and place for that, and this is probably not the best one. Either way though, can't really shoot you down for being of the few that empathize with boy's situation, or be picky how you do it. Sorry for the misunderstanding and bit of kneejerk reaction. I'm just kinda tired of seeing, in other instances, victim's stories and experiences used to primary sell ideologies, especially without their approval, to which I feel non-labeled activism less isolating.

[anti-feminist-pug-deactivated20]

Imagine This

Imagine that your partner has been hitting you. Yelling at you. You’ve been married for a few years, you’re both in your 30s, you have a little daughter, and everything you do seems to be wrong. You’ve been made fun of, mocked and belittled by your partner. 

But you need them, because you can’t take another failed relationship. You can’t be alone again, and they’ve got you convinced that all the beatings and scratches and scrapes are your fault.

You tell your friends and they laugh. No matter how many bruises or cuts you show them, it’s still your fault, so you hide them. You feel trapped, but you don’t feel like you can escape. You’re convinced that you’re just locking yourself in.

And you see online one day an article. Someone else went through what you have. They got the cuts, the bruises, the scratches. You see that here is hope and freedom from these beatings. The physical and emotional pain can go away, there is someone there to help!

So you write down a list of 10 abuse victim hotlines, for people being abused. And you call them one by one.

If you were a man:

6 of those hotlines would refuse to help because of your gender.

3 of those hotlines would refer you to or give you a number to a hotline dealing with people that abuse and are looking to stop.

1 of those hotlines would help.

Out of those 10, 2 of those would also laugh at you or say you deserved it.

If you were a woman:

10 of those hotlines would help.

Abuse is very scary, but what seems scarier to you; being abused, reaching out and getting the help you need, or being abused, reaching out and getting laughed and turned away over 60% of the time because of who you are?

Only 8% of men who call abuse hotlines find them ‘very helpful’ and get the assistance they need.

Women can abuse. Men can be abused. Men need equality and help too.

[olds0ulsearching]

Btw this is still feminism

[awliterate]

nah, this is still just average good will and effort before someone pushes their shitty political label on it. “This” is not feminism. This is op’s, a non-feminist’s efforts toward awareness for male victims. Feminism does not get to claim ownership of things not done by feminists. Anyone can hold these values, not just them. You’d do well to acknowledge that and stop imposing your label on everyone else. And stick to the point which is male victims, not your movement- with a history remarkably lacking male advocacy to even make that claim.

[alexisafeminist-deactivated2015]

Let me make this clear to all anti feminists:

“Feminists” Who don’t support women in 3rd world countries are not feminists

“Feminists” who harass men are not feminists

“Feminists” Who believe that women are superior to men are not feminists

“Feminists” who are racist, homophobic, or transphobic are not feminists

“Feminists” who want special treatment are not feminists

“Feminists” who harass anti feminists are not feminists

“Feminists” who don’t have good intentions are not feminists

You know what feminists strive for. Please stop acting like you don’t know the difference between a feminist and a misandrist.

[eliminativism]

People who believe in exclusively feminist ideological statements are feminists. 

[durkin62]

Only Willie can decide if ye be a true Scotsman feminist.

[your-uncle-dave]

Let me make this clear to feminists:

If someone says they’re a feminist, they’re a feminist.

OP lacks the authority to dictate who is and who isn’t.

[chiribomb-deactivated20220820]

I’m confused.

All the anti-feminists love to tell the feminists that it’s a hate movement, that the only way it will not be a hate movement is if the feminists clean up their own movement and denounce the extremists.

But when they do that, you don’t accept it?

[awliterate]

Now I’m confused.  

Telling antifeminists who are ‘real’ feminists does something productive?; when the claimed “fake” feminists are the ones needing to hear the message. They’re addressing the wrong group in the first place. This is also about DENYING FEMINISM’S RESPONSIBILITY for problematic historical actions of racism, transphobia, homopobia, and anti-male legislation.

There is a HUGE difference between cleaning up, and sweeping it under the rug. To clean you have to acknowledge there’s dirt. And get the soap products out to actual go for the mold.  This is just: dirt is not possible - problem solved because there is no problem to solve- because there is no capability of being bad. just like magic- neat! This is just running away from the problem as non-existent, just denial.

This is saying "true feminism". Which fails to understand the current pressing situation of feminism being a HOMONYM (A homonym is a word that is said and spelled the same way as another word but has a different meaning) in COMMON USAGE. We're talking about how people use the word feminism as an identity in REAL LIFE, not the dictionary- which fails to reflect the complexities of identity and movement politics, for an oversimplified ideal. Feminism has branches and multiple interpretations and therein more meanings than just "pro-equality". Or that pro-equality can also be subjective, more than you would think.

This isn't arguing “hey yeah, feminism has problems and as a symbol/label/word has been misused to hurt people of varying demographics, and sorry, but please recognize the good, not just the bad. Help us call out bad feminists.”. It’s saying  "feminism can't be problematic because feminism means-" which doesn't even begin to acknowledge that FEMINISM MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, not just one thing to you and those who agree with you in particular, (there is much more than the dictionary that is also relevant- your interpretation is not the only valid or active one) . Essentially this method of back-pedaling criticism is “It’s paradoxical for it to EVER BE problematic so drop the conversation completely please” nothing new- while completely failing to address that these ‘fakes' are still: convenient to quote in academia, offer support and assets that feminism still taps into, and are granted powerful positions as well as financial access to feminism as a whole, and able to direct feminism and its resources. There is no check and balance system preventing this stuff either.

In this way, if we follow op’s proposal, the only feminists are good feminists, we’re not supposed to recognize a pattern of most misandrists identifying as feminist rather than anything else- we’re not supposed to make a correlation- that could potentially incriminate feminism- or make it look bad at all- that it could play a (guilty) part even remotely just a little bit. Don’t blame or question feminism for being a commonality? That derails and is dishonest, a dishonesty which leads to a blindness that can allow those problems that could be linked to feminism but is tabooed to imply so, to fester improperly challenged. Negative takes on an ideology still matter, especially why they happen. What elements DRAW rotten apples toward something seemingly good- which yes- is SOMETHING about the thing. Rather than explore that, you’d shut it down before an investigation could even start. What you would have done is “it doesn't make sense” for something assumed-good/perfect and leave it at that. Instead its deflected as nonfeminists’ fault for pointing it out, (how dare they) rather than the radfems creating the image. Well that doesn’t do anything about it, does it.

It doesn’t help anyone, except feminists, to pretend that feminism hasn’t been weaponized by bad people and/or that that shouldn’t matter or represent it at all?? It Does matter actually as the claim that feminism is an effective TOOL or movement for equality, needs to be analyzed and kept consistent to be true, rather than blindly accepted, purely on faith. If it’s doing a bad job of stopping its resources being misused to damage others, that will and should reflect it... how productive and reliable it is. Feminism NEEDS criticism in order to motivate its ass to better itself clearly, Not less of it or trying to dismiss it every damn time with ‘but they’re not real’. IRRELEVANT, they are STILL USING FEMINISM (its spaces, its finances, its support, its influences in government, its power, its label - you name it) regardless, which the point is- they should NOT be able to, not so easily and not so damn rampant. Telling nonfeminists that they shouldn’t be bothered by feminism being openly and repetitively accessible and utlitized by assholes that do do damage, and complaining that vulnerability shouldn't be deemed important or notable about feminism at all, or detract from how valuable it is... No, It is absolutely apart of assessing feminism’s merits, as a movement and current userbase. Feminism doesn’t get special immunity from this critique.

Perhaps lip service or a tumblr blog post inable to comprehend this means very little? And doesn’t offer a real solution? More like a cop out. not a call out. 

Though to be perfectly frank, the people arguing in memes aren’t much better themselves. You can cite no true scosttman all fudgin day. BUT EXPLAIN why a true-Scotch is bad in a given situation or its application. It’s not just bad “cause it’s bad”. Blessed muffins that’s just lousy effort. Y’all can do better.

[onemv]

The 911 Call

The Police Video

The Cell phone video (at bottom)

This is the problem with Predominant Aggressor Polices.

[thinksquad-deactivated20190405]

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/controversial-anti-homeless-spikes-prevent-homeless-sleeping-doorways/624292/

http://www.travelandpositiveliving.com/2014/04/whats-purpose-of-concrete-spikes-under.html

http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2012/07/photos-guangzhou-sets-concrete-spikes-under-bridges-to-drive-away-homeless-people/

http://stsnext20.org/vignettes/2014/03/26/when-parisian-benches-have-politics-street-furniture-and-the-strategies-of-spatial-exclusion/

http://rue89.nouvelobs.com/photo-rue/2009/11/26/empecher-les-sdf-de-sasseoir-la-ville-ne-manque-pas-didees

http://www.morbleu.com/le-tiers-exclu-iv-des-dispositifs-architecturaux-anti-sdf/1547124430_1854ccee23_o/

http://fictioninternational.sdsu.edu/wordpress/catalog/issue-43-walls/do-not-remain/

http://www.bogoboo.com/bizarre-park-bench-spikes/

[thepunkprophet]

This is fucking disgusting

[jjsupremacy-deactivated20230913]

This is so cruel. i actually feel sick. 

[cutekat100]

you could place some cardbord on it until it is levaled

[socialjusticeprincesses]

That’s not the point. The point of this post is to bring our attention to the fact that the government has put spikes on the ground to keep homeless people away. When they could be spending money to help these homeless people ~Eugene

[poppypicklesticks-blog]

This is fucking disgusting.  These are human beings not fucking pigeons 

[thatalbanianguy]

This is why EVERY fucking state needs to have recall elections.

[averyonlinepersonality]

Fathers Day is coming up. Yet another holiday where men thought they weren’t being appreciated enough already on a daily basis and insisted they deserve a day to reassure the societal ideology. 

[antifeminist-egalitarian-deacti]

This is stupid for a lot of reasons. My favourite reason is that father’s day was invented to compliment mother’s day, by a woman.

[carpediemtomorrow]

[travelingsg]

This.

[postwhitesociety-deactivated201]

Wow…..wow

[chrisintegration-deactivated202]

Statistically more men are raped in prison annually than there are estimated rapes of women annually in the US. Considering the roughly 2.5 million men in prison, there’s an actual reason for men to fear getting raped for going to prison compared to walking down the street as a woman. The fear of something happening =/= the probability of that thing happening.

[aboutwhitewomen]

Let’s completely ignore the fact that going to prison entails losing most of your liberties, often for a long period of time. And that this would be very frightening to most people.

[thatoneantifemchick-deactivated]

Okay but this literally infuriates me so fucking badly that I actually can’t even articulate why I’m so mad.

[ladyforloveandjustice]

Oh, great! Here’s more “all women are delicate daisies who literally fear for their lives every time they step outside of their homes” bullshit. Actually, what I, a woman, fear most is losing my whole family. After that, prison sounds horrifying. I’d rank “walking down the sidewalk” pretty fucking low on my list. Also, you’re highly unlikely to be raped by a stranger; when someone is raped, it’s usually by someone that they know. Stop trying to speak for everyone, YesAllWomen. ~Mod Silvermoon424

[femboy-fever]

I think when people hear the word “convict,” they think, “Wow, he must have done something really shitty!” They naturally assume that all convicts, all men in prisons, did something monstrous to deserve the terrible treatment they receive behind bars.

This isn’t true. Innocent men—especially innocent men of color—are quite often put behind bars without good cause. Our justice system is faulty, and it also heavily favors women.

Let’s assume that all men behind bars are guilty, however. What crimes can get you put behind bars? Think about this question. Think about all of the non-violent, victimless crimes that can get a man locked away for life. Think of petty crimes. Think of men who have never actually harmed another human being in their entire lives.

Those men can easily end up in prison, and they run a high risk of being raped. Repeatedly.

The reason men do not fear being raped outside of prison, is because they are taught that they cannot be. If a woman rapes them, they wanted it, they scored, they should be celebrating, not shaking and crying and feeling like they’ve been violated. If a man does it, they’re fags, perverts, fetishists, and they probably wanted that, too. They’re taught that they cannot be raped.

But they’re taught that, if they go to prison, suddenly, they can be. For some inexplicable reason, they believe that they can only be raped in prison, that, outside of prison, they’re invulnerable; probably because that is what society, as a whole, has taught them.

You are using victims of rape to justify the necessity of feminism. You are using victims of rape who already struggle to let their voices be heard, because American society has turned the rape of male convicts into a joke. We laugh at the concept of men being raped. We actually fucking laugh at it.

This is why I don’t need feminism. It continues to perpetuate harmful ideas about male victims of rape and male convicts who are victims of rape.

[hagakura]

The Department of Justice said in 2008 that they had more rape cases IN prison than OUT of prison, with 216,000 male victims of rape in a single year. Why is this significant? Because they had fewer than 90,000 rape cases that were from the general population, and the number of rape victims continues to decline. It’s declined by over 80% since the 1970s.

Most prisoners are not serving sentences for violent crimes. 7.9% of sentenced prisoners in federal prisons (as of September 2009) were in for violent crimes. 1/3rd of all prison exonerations have been men that were wrongfully convicted of sexual assault, who were probably then sexually assaulted in prison. People have been raped for the crime of being innocent. It’s also a known fact the justice system is highly racist.

Men are the majority of victims for just about every crime, particularly black men. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, men are 61% of assault victims, 80% of robbery victims, and 63% of victims for all “crimes of violence.” Men are also 77% of murder victims. The CDC made a report in 2010 which says almost half of rape victims are male when you discount prison statistics.

Plus, as mentioned above, rape doesn’t usually happen outside. 11% of rapes and sexual assaults are committed by strangers, according to the Department of Justice. In 60% of all cases, the rape took place in a location the victim would have assumed was safe (generally their own home, or the home of a friend/relative).

So this tweet isn’t accurate. I mean, it could be for some women - maybe that’s a legitimate fear - but that wouldn’t line up with the facts about violence/rape in the USA. A person’s chance of being raped is less than 1%. Being on the sidewalk, that number is even less.

And if anyone wants to reblog this with the oft-quoted “but 1 in 4 women will be raped” - no, stop using that statistic. It was debunked in the 1990s and the woman who did the study admitted it was too flawed to use. I’m all for equal rights and women’s advocacy, but a little intellectual honesty would be nice to see from some people.

[femboy-fever]

Look at this flawless commentary.

Gaze upon it, and weep, for its glory is too mighty and magnificent to bear.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

CDC - National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010

So, what’s that I keep hearing about the vast majority of rapes and domestic abuse incidents being male on female?

What’s that about rape culture being based entirely or exclusively around the erasure of female rape?

And before you use the lifetime statistics…

[sjw-warriors]

ok, even disregarding the lifetime statistics, let’s look at the 12 months category. the combined number of victims for any sexual violence is still higher for women than men. the combined number of victims of sexual violence by an intimate partner is still over 4 million victims higher for women than men, still looking at incidents occuring in the last 12 months.

so either way, women are still under more of a threat of sexual violence than men. i don’t see how these stats change that fact: in fact, they support it.

-Ish

[siryouarebeingmocked]

We’re talking about rape. The CDC defined “Made to Penetrate” as “Other sexual violence” for no explained reason. And trust me, folks have asked. The definition of MTP they used clearly describes rape. Once you make that relatively small correction, that’s a 1:1 ratio for 12 months, and 1:4 over the lifetime. Neither are a “vast majority”. And that’s if you assume that men and women are as likely to report (Widom and Morris, which Genderratic referenced, indicates not) and there just happened to be a serious surge in male rape cases in the 12 months before the report.

The 12 months for women, with all forms of sexual violence, is around 7.9 million. The 12 moths for men is around 6 million and change. The numbers for “Rape, physical violence and/or stalking” are about 6.7 and 5.7.

I’d really like to know where your 4 mil came from. Show your work.

My point wasn’t that women aren’t more at risk, my point was that society’s assumption that women are overwhelmingly more at risk, making up over 90% of rapes, is contradicted by this study.

[sjfhsahfkaksfhfk-deactivated201]

I know cis men who have all been sexually abused for a young age, physically abused, some tossed from home to home, some were homeless, many fell into a cycle of depression and drug abuse, some went through other terrible things like seeing someone they love die or be murdered before their time, or a love one be raped and there was nothing they could do about it. 

Some of these guys are *gasp* straight, cis, white, neurotypical, and able bodied. So I don’t understand how feminists on this website can think they know it all, yet say “men are gross, they should die, they are so privileged, nothing is wrong with their lives.”

That message is sick beyond belief. I can’t believe such a large number of people back those statements and the harassment of men who have done nothing.

"But it’s just over the internet, it doesn’t matter!!!!!" Well, actually, not all of it is just over the web, and cyberbullying can be really awful and it does matter.

[puppy-ch0w]

its almost like….they still have white, cis, straight, neurotypical male privilege

[sjfhsahfkaksfhfk-deactivated201]

its almost like….that doesn’t warrant harassment or invalidate their experiences

[blunder]

if you think it hurts to be kicked in the balls, try being hit in the boobs.

[yung-m00nchild]

the whole “men vs women” is getting real old, tumblr.

Both hurt and that’s that.

[glimmii]

Who fucking cares if someone shoplifts a $5 thing from a million-dollar company. It’s only “shitty” if it’s one of those mom-and-pop stores, if there’s one worker that would get in trouble for it, if it’s something valuable, or basically if it would actually hurt anyone. If you steal some food from Walmart, you’re literally not hurting anyone, as long as you don’t get caught.

[ughsocialjustice]

You have literally no idea of what you’re talking about. Shut up oh my god. -the italian one

[listener-blue]

This is a brilliant idea OP.

Brilliant.

I say we all do this. Every single person who enters any shop that is part of a large and highly profitable company should do this. Every time we go in to one of these shops we should each steal something. Nothing too expensive, just a small item. Because you know, if every single person did this the profit margins of the shop wouldn’t plummet, and the knock on effect wouldn’t be that they would raise their prices. This wouldn’t have any effect on anyone. This literally wouldn’t be hurting anybody, would it?

Except it would literally be hurting every single person who shopped there because it would increase their cost of living.

Seriously OP. A+ brilliant idea.

[ronpaulproblems]

Uhhhhhh

[in-a-raging-sea-of-flames-deact]

why do people think that any sort of violence and prejudice always includes power? sure power is violent, but you can not have power and still be a violent person.

[check-your-privilege-feminists]

Look at this piece of shit trying to invalidate a horrific crime because of the color of one’s skin. What the fuck. This is what a rape culture would actually be like. I’m fucking speechless right now.

[problemattress-blog]

"You can experience nonconsensual sex but you can’t experience rape"

[nightmaresforjustice]

This is just going too far.

[greekgodsforsocialjusticearchive]

I am not drunk enough to say everything I would like to say about this. 

All I want to say is FUCK YOU to that person for implying that I was not raped (repeatedly from 11 to 13, I might add) because I am a white woman.

Fuck this bullshit. Don’t ever try to invalidate a horrific trauma like rape because of skin color, or gender, or EVER.

~Persephone

[ughsocialjustice]

wAIT WERE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HARRISON BERGERON YES HELLO THAT IS MY SHIT okay basically it has great themes about the true meaning of "equality" and "privilege" and how by pushing people down to the same level as the lowest people to make the lowest people feel better, you're not actually helping anybody. you're just hurting. mod, can you please link to the short story? it's only four or five pages long, by Kurt Vonnegut, can be found on Google. I think everyone should read it.

[kfleminem]

Full text to “Harrison Bergeron” by Kurt Vonnegut.

My all time favorite Vonnegut story. Love it, love it, love it.

[bottleofjasmine-deactivated2015]

I don’t understand the girls in this site. Like, at all. 

They laugh how men have fragile egos, but they complain about a fashion article for weeks.

They hate cisgendered white men, but worship Tom Hiddleston, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jensen Ackles, Chris Evans, and other white male celebrities. 

Bash men for fetishizing lesbians, but they create fan art and fanfics where gay men are sexualized; some of them glorify rape and pedophilia. Plus, they ship real life men. 

They hate bronies for sexualizing MLP characters, then there’s Elsana porn all over the place. And they fetishized a real life person (Yuzuru Hanyu incident). 

Making kitchen/sandwich jokes is a sin, but “kill all men” is acceptable. 

Criticize men who complain about friendzoning, then they quickly call a man misogynist, racist, transphobic fat shamer if he’s not attracted to them. 

Does that mean men doing shitty things doesn’t exist? Of course not. But women are equally shitty, but they seem to deny it or make up some excuse. I know they’ll say I have internalized misogyny or I don’t know what feminism is (it’s scary to think this is considered feminism). Still, this type of behavior is not only hypocritical, but unhealthy. 

[maggie00love]

Boys hurt too

[contortedwreck-deactivated20140]

i am absolutely terrified and horrified by this

[ohioisloko-deactivated20150504]

that’s because with boys a chemical is released in their brain when they make the decision and boys are more likely to hang or shoot themselves, so it always gets done first try. Meanwhile, girls tend to cut and mostly take pills, a method easier to mess up and easier to be saved, thus more attempts and less effect.

[sleepsolatecuzivegotsomanydreams]

Yeah, but boys hurt too

[roughstar]

Also boys are a lot less likely to chicken out Statistics say that more males go through with suicide attempts than females

[harlequinhatter]

You know how radfems get mad when guys “hijack a post”

Welp.

[sosungalittleclodofclay-deactiv]

"released a chemical in the brain"

no.

androgens mask ‘classic’ depression symptoms, which leads to signs known as “male pattern” depression

http://www.professionalpsychiatry.com/depression.html

Male pattern depression can include signs seen infrequently in women:

Lower stress threshold

Aggressive behavior or difficulty controlling impulses

Irritability, restlessness, dissatisfaction

Anxiety, especially in the morning

Alcohol abuse or illegal drug use

Excessive exercise or work

Hyperactive behavior

Eating too little or too much

Antisocial behavior and/or pushing or testing social norms

This, by the by, is the cause of ‘the depression gap’. There actually aren’t more depressed women than men, it’s just that in men it presents as other disorders.

the other problem men and boys aren’t given the mental skills to impart their needs, let alone expect them to be met. It would help if people started giving a shit.

[bigtitsandwittybanter]

Literally nothing makes me more amused than MRAs reblogging my posts and adding commentary like I’m supposed to care. u_u

[sj-waluigi]

Therein lies the problem: you don’t care.  I just proved you completely wrong on something, and instead of being mature and saying, “Okay, wow, maybe I was wrong,” you decided to do the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing, “La la la I can’t hear you!”

Oh, and heads up:

….I’m an egalitarian woman.

[feiministandsmarterthanyou-deac]

If I understand your reference correctly correctly, your “proof” was a long incoherent list of supposed instance of misandry. Since you seem genuinely curious and @bigtitsandwittybanter apparently has better things to do, let me tell you why your proof is doesn’t work. It’s a little complicated so pay attention.

First, you include harmless things like “Male Tears” mugs, which is right on par with the “boys go to Jupiter” doggerel the OP references. You don’t really think people sharing jokes at the expense of those who make their lives difficult constitutes hatred, do you?

Second, the fact that you include things like this, along with various instances of individual women being bad to men, and a few examples of genuine institutional biases against men, speaks poorly to your intentions and your understanding of structures in society.

Maybe misandry is real. Even so, if you are going to argue for its existence as you just did, then you are going to appear ignorant and of bad faith to a lot of people. And they might make fun of you.

[sj-waluigi]

"Harmless things like Male Tears mugs.."

kind of like how cat calling is harmless? or “go make me a sandwich” is harmless?  I’m sure you have a half-baked reason as to why those two things actually cause harm.  

"Male Tears" mugs enforce the stereotype that men don’t/shouldn’t cry, or that they should remain stoic in all situations.  I don’t understand how you can claim that enforcing gender roles and stereotypes and then calling it a "joke" isn’t harmful?  Male Tears mugs also prove, if not a hatred, then at least that there are many women who look down on men, which could be equated to hatred, but is definitely sexist.

I don’t know if you read the entire post or not, but I’m going to assume no, considering that the very first paragraph addressed misandry.  It has nothing to do with oppression, or “structures in society.”  It is the hatred of men.  That’s it.  No one is claiming that this is an institutional bias, or even that it means that men are oppressed simply for being men.  It only means that men also face sexism, and to deny that is to deny important issues happening in society.

Misandry, as I pointed out with my post, is very real and very ignored as an issue.  If people think researching a topic and then compiling that into a masterpost to prove a point is ignorant and they “might make fun of” me, then more power to them.  I have solid proof and reliable sources on my side.