What if we made it so you needed proof of vaccination (or of medical exemption) to get a ventilator?
“Yes, I have done the bare minimum to protect myself and my neighbors but got unlucky, the system can afford to help people like me”
vs
“I have refused to do the bare minimum to protect myself or my neighbors, yet I feel entitled to this limited resource that I and other more responsible people need to survive. I have been partially protected by the social responsibility of others (while also putting them at risk), and now I want to fill up the safety net I made no effort to avoid.”
These people are equally likely to win or lose the game of musical chairs that is “hoping for an empty room in the ICU”.
I’m not saying anyone deserves to be thrown out of the lifeboat, but if it starts sinking from too much weight then the last people to get life jackets should be those who were choosing not to row or those who were drilling holes in it to “own the libs.”
Update: an immunocompromised antivaxxer called me a nazi.
We have the resources to protect the unlucky and the sick.
We do not have the resources to protect the unlucky, the sick, and the stupid – and stupid has the advantage of numbers.
This post has managed to piss off people on the left who don’t seem to understand that emergency rooms are already having to send people away and people on the right going “The vaccine isn’t 100% effective? Then I don’t have to take it, right? Checkmate, liberal.”
There are better solutions, of course, and they are worthy of discussion. Things like “The last ten ICU beds per hospital must be reserved for the immunocompromised who were unable to get vaccinated”. Things like “Taking up one of the last ten ventilators available must be paid for out of pocket if unvaccinated and without a medical exemption”. Things like “If you contract coronavirus and are vaccinated or have a medical exemption your treatment will be fully covered by your insurance provider” (actually that last one sounds pretty good but it requires rich people having to spend money). But THE POINT IS that the people who are CHOOSING to not get vaccinated are making the pandemic much more dangerous than it needs to be, both by spreading it and by taking up limited lifesaving resources all at once.
Or you could read my post in bad faith and assume I’m evil, and that I want… sick people to die? Republicans? The vaccinated? The unvaccinated? I’m not sure what the angle on this is here. People have yelled at me for implying that the vaccine both works and doesn’t work because reading comprehension on this site is just that goddamn poor.
Dude, you openly stated you think that it's a good idea to let people die, and argued that they deserve it because they didn't do the things you want them to.
You can't walk that shit back.
No matter what you claim after the fact to create a justification for the things you say will not change the things you already DID say. If you didn't want people to think of you as a murderous person, maybe you shouldn't start with a call for murder. It's not a bad faith interpretation, because it's a LITERAL interpretation of your words.
And before you claim otherwise? The only people needing to be on ventilators are those who are in life-threatening condition. You want to refuse ventilators to those who are unvaccinated. What do you THINK will happen to them without ventilators?
"People are taking my declaration that people who don't comply with the state's demands should die in bad faith!" You can pretend all these alternatives and nuance was implied in your first post, but you're getting static from the right and left I'd say it wasn't. You called for people to be left without resources for noncompliance to the state, which would lead to the their death. You can't pretty that up.
Also, your example headline is misleading--the man was admitted immediately and had a hospital bed for treatment of sepsis, thought to be caused by his flu/Corona shot combo. His family wanted him moved to a bigger hospital and assumed his death occurred because he wasn't, and they blamed that on unvaccinated covid patients though he didn't need to be on a covid ward. The hospital in fact told the family his condition wasn't severe enough to warrant a transfer until 15 days in. But he had a bed immediately upon request and treatment. Read the article if you are claiming to argue in good faith.
The OP is not arguing that they want people to die, they are just saying that priority should be given to people who actually fight against the spread of the virus. You are actually reading it in bad faith.
