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Milo Rossi is so disappointing since he has pointed out antisemitic tropes showing up in conspiracies in the past and he seems so conscious of historical ties of other indigenous groups to land and specific archaeological sites... like I don't get how you go from that to acting like Israel is an evil empire

Truly I don’t know. I know we got Milo haters here but I’ll out myself saying that I did like him. I especially appreciated him because of exactly what you said. As someone who grew up in Ohio, his video on the earthworks was also greatly appreciated.

It’s a fact that he’s been on the record pointing out antisemitic tropes over and over. Yet somehow the same blind spot remains. To backslide in this way… I’d love to say that it’s novel but so many left wing creators have fallen head over heels in love with this conspiracy.

Even if you thought “this war” was a genocide, it’s a step farther to contend Palestinians were victims of an Israeli genocide when their population has not experienced the same drop off that we see time and time again with every other recorded genocide. It’s maddening.

my-friends-call-me-gerry

oh no! a hippie archeology youtuber who talks a lot about how shitty the usa government is and educates people about indigenous genocide is AGAINST the genocide is*ael is commiting on palestinians????? trurly shocking

cryptidjeepers

"Israel hasnt been committing genocide for the last 80 years, theyve been doing ethnic cleansing! Which is totally different and not as bad!" How y'all sound

leunusualsuspect

First thing’s first, @my-friends-call-me-gerry , you can say Israel. It’s a country, and a people, and not a slur. In addition, you’re not engaging with what I’m saying, which is that it’s demonstratably false to say that Israel has been committing 80 years of genocide. There is not a legal authority or precedent on Earth that supports that conclusion. Not in population, not in practice, not in official policy either. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. 80 years is beyond the pale of consideration.

Second thing’s second, cryptid. That isn’t what I was saying either. But if I conceded that there was ethnic cleaning, words do mean something. Otherwise we wouldn’t have a distinction.

You could both stand to interpret me in good faith, but I’m sure that’s asking too much.

leunusualsuspect

Is there anything funnier than typing out a whole response to someone who responded back with the tag #I can do this all day and just when you go to post it…. They blocked you?

Guess they couldn’t do it all day, they couldn’t even handle a few hours. 😂😂😂

Got right in the clown car and drove away

dalek-ix-says-stuff

What's even funnier is that 80 years ago was... 1946. Auschwitz-Birkenau shut down in January 1945.

Does bro really think that the people who crawled out of the camps, and the people whose family member were either all murdered in those same camps or came out of them, some barely alive, all went "Yep we wanna be doing THAT"?

(More seriously, the population of Arabs in Israel has actually increased in those eighty years, in which case I have to ask what the hell he thinks "genocide" actually is.) (Also, Israel was founded in 1948, but that can be excused as EIGHTY Y E A R S sounds more punchy than seventy two.)

En las malvinas se habla inglés.

#argentina #falkland islands

luvtonique

I'm sorry but um... Real quick, Tum my Blr... When the FUCK

Did you put a LIMIT

On how many LIKES AND POSTS WE CAN HAVE

Before you quietly made REMOVING THAT LIMIT

Cost MONEY????????

dalek-ix-says-stuff

Staff try not to fuck things up challenge (impossible)

theculturedmarxist

>First, we’ve discovered that about a quarter of all the internet connection in or out of the house were ad related. In a few hours, that’s about 10,000 out of 40,000 processed.

>We also discovered that every link on Twitter was blocked. This was solved by whitelisting the https://t.co domain.

>Once out browsing the Web, everything is loading pretty much instantly. It turns out most of that Page Loading malarkey we’ve been accustomed to is related to sites running auctions to sell Ad space to show you before the page loads. All gone now.

>We then found that the Samsung TV (which I really like) is very fond of yapping all about itself to Samsung HQ. All stopped now. No sign of any breakages in its function, so I’m happy enough with that.

>The primary source of distress came from the habitual Lemmings player in the house, who found they could no longer watch ads to build up their in-app gold. A workaround is being considered for this.

>The next ambition is to advance the Ad blocking so that it seamlessly removed YouTube Ads. This is the subject of ongoing research, and tinkering continues. All in all, a very successful experiment.

>Certainly this exceeds my equivalent childhood project of disassembling and assembling our rotary dial telephone. A project whose only utility was finding out how to make the phone ring when nobody was calling.

>Update: All4 on the telly appears not to have any ads any more. Goodbye Arnold Clarke!

>Lemmings problem now solved.

>Can confirm, after small tests, that RTÉ Player ads are now gone and the player on the phone is now just delivering swift, ad free streams at first click.

>Some queries along the lines of “Are you not stealing the internet?” Firstly, this is my network, so I may set it up as I please (or, you know, my son can do it and I can give him a stupid thumbs up in response). But there is a wider question, based on the ads=internet model.

>I’m afraid I passed the You Wouldn’t Download A Car point back when I first installed ad-blocking plug-ins on a browser. But consider my chatty TV. Individual consumer choice is not the method of addressing pervasive commercial surveillance.

>Should I feel morally obliged not to mute the TV when the ads come on? No, this is a standing tension- a clash of interests. But I think my interest in my family not being under intrusive or covert surveillance at home is superior to the ad company’s wish to profile them.

>Aside: 24 hours of Pi Hole stats suggests that Samsung TVs are very chatty. 14,170 chats a day.

>YouTube blocking seems difficult, as the ads usually come from the same domain as the videos. Haven’t tried it, but all of the content can also be delivered from a no-cookies version of the YouTube domain, which doesn’t have the ads. I have asked my son to poke at that idea.

monitor-offist-deactivated20250

fastest reblog in the west

dduane

Yeppers. :)

the-original-sineater

reblogging for study later AND to spread the info.

them-faetale

Seriously, get and run PiHole if you can. It changes your internet experience so much for the better. I get shocked when I visit a website when I'm on someone else's network, by just how many ads the internet is flooded with now. Take back control.

ladyshinga

OceanGate, the deep-sea exploration company that created the Titan submersible, has removed its Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn a

poor things, well we should definitely make this easier on them by never repeatedly mentioning their name and deeds on the "reblog things forever" website

septicake

yea that'd be a shame

by the way, just so everyone knows what not to do, shift+r reblogs a post instantly

just make sure you don't reblog anything about oceangate because that would completely undermine their entire plan 😇😇😇

curoopeez

You also shouldn't queue a post, that would make people keep remembering this post for a longer time, which is the opposite of forgetting

sumi-sprite

Oh no, my hand slipped and landed on the schedule button so it posts on that wonderfully explosive day, oh noooo...

luvtonique

Social media made us go from "Haha look at that cute lil guy sitting on a record player teehee he spin"

To a 17 paragraph explanation that the lil guy is not being harmed and that the poster knows this because he did a private independent journalistic investigation over the course of multiple months in order to find the original creator of the gif and ask them if the lil guy was harmed, also to double check they consulted 100 different lil guy experts to ensure the lil guy was not hurt. They did all of this so that people looking at the gif of the lil guy spinning would not have a panic attack over their worry that the lil guy was hurt.

To a 35 paragraph response to the above 17 paragraphs calling that person a liar and explaining their own lil guy expertise and how they are 100% certain that the lil guy was traumatized by his spin on the record player and that everyone sharing the post should be ashamed, arrested or killed depending on the mental health state of the person posting these 35 paragraphs.

dalek-ix-says-stuff

You forgot "To a response which is a meme utterly incomprehensible to anyone who has touched grass in the past ten years".

vischlers

Kill La Kill Hellsing AU

dalek-ix-says-stuff

It's fucking peak

showrunnerihardlyknowher

I'm reminded of that one artist on twitter who draws a mixed Zentradi and human unit.

what is a zentradi and human unit

dalek-ix-says-stuff

Zentradi are the giant aliens from Macross/Robotech.

sseerruuffuu

the different ways artists draw this fluffy idiot's goods

sseerruuffuu

well i guess we got our answer LMAO

dalek-ix-says-stuff

Oi watch how you're lifting that dress you-

sseerruuffuu

the different ways artists draw this fluffy idiot's goods

sseerruuffuu

well i guess we got our answer LMAO

athingofvikings

I'm just saying, Neo-Nazis and Leftists should be easier to tell apart when it comes to them talking about Jews. You know. Ideally.

athingofvikings

Update: As far as I can tell, from sadly extensive exposure, Neo-Nazis and Leftists are now indistinguishable when it comes to talking about Jews.

pagecommando

Incessant obsessive conspiracy theories about Jews that are thousands of years old, occasionally updated with fun modern talking points. (Soros Space Lasers, Starbucks, Spotify)

Fetishization of Jews (Sounds contradictory, isn't)

Obsessed with supercessionism

Blame Jews for their life not working out the way they wanted it to and also every social ill that occurs to them really

Enjoy and justify cutting Jews out of public life (Bar tokens you'll turn on later)

Enjoy and justify lighting Jews on fire

Enjoy shooting Jews outside Jewish buildings (And inside too but hey)

Failure to realize that with the Jews dead the regime needs new enemies to justify its existence... and has also been going after said other enemies the whole time.

Has turned all of this into a fandom with religious aspects that is self-radicalizing at a dangerous pace with a tangible death toll.

daughterofstories

Neo-Nazis obsess about Jews murdering white babies, while Leftists obsess about Jews murdering Black and Brown babies. Also, Neo-Nazis think Jews are working with Muslims and Catholics to destroy White people, and Leftists think Jews are working with Christians and the West to destroy Islam.

So far as I can tell, those are the only differences.

athingofvikings

dazeddwarf

is this saying that the ongoing genocide in gaza is a conspiracy theory and not the broad consensus of genocide scholars (including jewish ones)

athingofvikings

Yes. Quite simply, genocide means something--the deliberate effort to wipe out a people by killing them or targeting their way of life and keeping them from continuing on.

If Israel was intending to commit genocide...

Then why isn't everyone in Gaza already dead?

They have the means, the ability, and the tools to do so.

The only answers that Jew-haters can come up to explain how 98% of the population of Gaza was still alive after two years of intense urban warfare--when the fighting in Mariopol, Ukraine, had a higher death toll despite taking less time--tend to fall into one of three categories:

Incompetence--the IDF intends to kill them all, but just somehow is too stupid to manage it.

Conspiratorial--the IDF intends to kill them all, but is being sneaky about it, in order to distract... somehow. Which is just "Untrustworthy Jews" in a different package.

Abject denial--"La la, la, The Jews are trying to kill them all! Hitler was right! I can't hear you and your evidence and details! I know in my heart that the Genocide is Real, just like how my parents know that Jesus is their Lord and Savior!"

And given that the "genocide scholars" in this case include a woman who has claimed a higher death toll and that the Israelis eat Palestinians and feed the leftovers to dogs, and a "genocide scholar group" that has no requirements for joining, and thus has "Emperor Palpatine" as a listed member... and several NGOs and states admitted that they would have to alter the definition of "genocide" to make what happened in Gaza count...

Yeah, there was a "broad consensus" in Nazi Germany that Jews were subhuman creatures that needed to be exterminated for the safety of the human race. Doesn't make it right.

Furthermore, in answer to the question...

No, it's how the Right and the Left have shaken hands and agreed that Jews Are The Problem And There Is One (Final) Solution that is acceptable. Going back to the original post, when a Leftist African-American politician was promoting a Jew-hating propaganda piece created by the KKK that claimed that Jews were responsible for 9/11.

Of course, the fact that the Left now loves the KKK-coined anti-Jew slur of "Zio" says everything.

dazeddwarf

the legal definition (UN Genocide Convention, 1948) doesn't require total extermination. it requires acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or IN PART, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group

i'm not gonna argue genocidal intent, since that would require convincing you that there was intent which is clearly impossible, but we can talk about ethnic cleansing:

"The UN Commission of Experts described (United Nations) ethnic cleansing as "a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas," and stated that the coercive practices used can include "murder, torture, arbitrary arrest and detention... forcible removal, displacement and deportation of civilian population... wanton destruction of property."

so forcible displacement is part of the UN definition of ethnic cleansing

"Nearly all of Gaza's current population of 2.1 million people has been displaced, lacking access to sufficient shelter, food, life-saving medical services, clean water, education and livelihoods."

"More than 60% of the population had lost their homes... Gaza's economy has contracted by 84%... 'The scale and extent of deprivation across living conditions, livelihoods/income, food security, gender equality, and social inclusion, have pushed back human development in the Gaza Strip by 77 years,'" the assessment said.

"Over 371,888 housing units have been destroyed or damaged, more than 50% of hospitals are non-functional, nearly all schools destroyed or damaged, and the economy has contracted by 84% in Gaza."

"Approximately 81% of all structures in the Gaza Strip are damaged... An estimated 320,622 housing units have been damaged." -- based on publicly available satellite imagery

it's not "sneaky" to not just literally nuke the strip and kill every single person inside. you can ethnically cleanse a group of people by destroying all their housing, their education, their economy, access to food, their healthcare, etc., and generally make the place unlivable. this has historically been an ethnic cleansing tactic, such as in the case of the holodomor in ukraine, and i would not say this is unique to israel or jews

it's also very weird to project all these anti-semitic tropes onto me; i didn't say any of that and i think they're gross, and i'm sorry if people have said stuff like that to you in the past

athingofvikings

And we have a Goalpost Move and a Denial of Antisemitism/Accusation of Projection twofer! That's Category Three, baaaaaybeee! -_-

So, to summarize:

You came onto a post talking about the Jewish experience with how chummy Leftists and Neo-Nazis have become over the last several years when it comes to hating Jews--to the point that Leftists are now endorsing Marjorie Taylor "Jewish Space Lasers" Greene--and basically went, "Well, have you considered that the consensus is that Jews are actually the bad guys and are doing what the Nazis did to them?"

And when I pushed back on that, pointing out the bias of the sources and how the situation does not show a genocide, you basically went, "Nuh uh" and shifted the topic, refused to engage with the discussion of antisemitism, and accused me of projecting antisemitism onto you, when you are engaging in antisemitism.

(And people have said that stuff to me this past week. This past day. It is constant, and if you exist as a Jew in public, your fellow "antizionists" make sure to attack you at every turn for daring to exist as a Jew.)

dazeddwarf

but you're not disputing the ethnic cleansing, right? clearly, you don't agree that it's a genocide, but are you saying my sources are wrong and it doesn't fit the UN definition of ethnic cleansing? or do we agree on that?

athingofvikings

You're the one who barged in here and demanded that I turn out my pockets in a tone that screamed bad faith, accusing me of conspiratorial thinking. Why do I have to answer you when your response to seeing "Hey, Leftists and Neo-Nazis are becoming indistinguishable from a Jewish perspective" is "But, but, but... Da Jooz ARE EBIL! Everyone Agrees!"

I owe you and your entire Jew-hating movement nothing until you police your own. At a fucking minimum, kick out the people who call Jews "inbred" (Piker), cannibals (Albanese), and the like... instead of, yanno, elevating them to be speakers of the movement. Until then, all I see is an old quote from Sartre:

You did that to a T.

dazeddwarf

so we agree on the ethnic cleansing, then. you're not disputing that

athingofvikings

*holds a candle up to your right ear and blows through your left ear. The candle goes out. The extinguished wick is still brighter than the intelligence and comprehension in your eyes, though*

Why is it so important to you that you get me to agree with you on this?

dazeddwarf

it's not important; i don't think you're going to agree with me. i just presented a good case that you're defending ethnic cleansing and you didn't dispute it. we can stop talking here and you can just block me if you want

athingofvikings

Ah yes. Because this is the perfect thread to have that discussion. You were literally just fishing for "proof" that "Jews are evil and engaging in genocide ethnic cleansing, and this random Jew I found online didn't dispute it! See, they admit it!" ...on a post regarding how Jews are treated by both the Far-Right and Far-Left as evil, murderous, and subhuman."

Sincerely, fuck you.

thisgingerisareallybadwriter

I need antizionists like the person above to realize that the Nazis also believed the Jews were committing genocide. They didn't have that word in their vocabulary, obviously, but in Himmler's speech from 1943 he literally says:

"We know how difficult things would be, if today in every city during the bomb attacks, the burdens of war and the privations, we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and instigators... We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who would kill us."

Shockingly, people who hate Jews make up lies to justify why killing them is a moral necessity. And you idiots fell for it. Again.

linesonwhite

Alright, look. I understand. I was there at PAX when the question was asked if Pragmata has any Mega Man connections and that sentiment was denied outright.

Despite that, here's Diana with a Mega Buster. OwO I think she would look cool with one.

dalek-ix-says-stuff

You should draw her defending Hugh.

linesonwhite

Alright, look. I understand. I was there at PAX when the question was asked if Pragmata has any Mega Man connections and that sentiment was denied outright.

Despite that, here's Diana with a Mega Buster. OwO I think she would look cool with one.

markerslinger

Happy Cinco De Mayo!

Imperialists go home!

still-searching-for-something

I (almost) have a masters degree in politics, and I cannot explain what in the name of God Iran was thinking when they attacked the Gulf states.

Let's be clear, Iran bombed:

Bahrain

Iraq

Jordan

Kuwait

Oman

Qatar

Saudi Arabia

United Arab Emirates

That's huge. And so, so fucking dumb.

Iraq, if you didn't know, has been an Iranian ally, verging on an Iranian client state, since the end of the Iraq War. And they BOMBED them.

Oman has pursued a policy of 'friend to all, enemy to none' for like, decades by this point and as such, has very limited US military ties and relatively positive relations with Iran. And Iran BOMBED them.

Iran bombed more Arab states in the last 48 hours than Israel has in nearly 80 years.

Like, the Gulf states are stunned right now. Iran just undid 20 years of careful indirect maneuvering and gentleman's agreements and plausible deniability and semi-alliances in a day. Iran has collapsed decades of calibrated proxy strategy, unified the Gulf Cooperation Council, and triggered the largest interstate Middle Eastern war since 1991. Iran targeted hotels, airports, residential areas, and all kinds of civilian infrastructure in the Gulf.

I really don't know what the hell they were thinking. It's baffling to me. So baffling I've heard people theorizing Iran lost control of its military in the aftermath of the decapitation strike conducted by the US and Israel and Iranian military units just unloaded on the Gulf out of revenge.

The only stupider things Iran could do would be detonate a dirty bomb or attack Turkey and draw NATO into the conflict.

Basically, all this is to say, Iran's regime seems intent on burning down as many bridges as it can on its way out.

What's especially nuts to me is how preventable and self inflicted this is. You know what the Gulf states would probably be doing right now if Iran hadn't attacked them out of the blue? They'd probably decline to let the US use its bases and would be petitioning Washington and Jerusalem to negotiate and get a ceasefire going. Instead, now they're letting the US use their bases and shooting down Iranian drones and missiles.

All because Iran shot itself in the foot.

natoapologistblocker

This here is why people with "degrees in politics" generally don't know jack shit. I don't even know what framework OP used to reach these conclusions. Or if they used any at all. Probably just went through 4ish years of political science at some imperial core school and taught empty discursive crap about "authoritarian regimes."

But let me educate your dumb ass. Iran attacking the Gulf States is the best possible strategic window they have. Not only does it allow them to undermine the United States' reputation as a security guarantor, incentivizing the Gulf countries to expel US military bases and therefore weakening the US' grip on the oil market without even mentioning their military presence in the Gulf, but it also gives them negotiating leverage by plunging Western markets into disarray. Iran is a country that has built its entire infrastructure to be resilient to sanctions; they can withstand disturbances to the global supply chains better than transnational economies that stand far more to lose by prolonging this conflict. You immediately jumping to clichés about some kind of irrational and incompetent "authoritarianism" showed me that whatever institution you studied at was more concerned about bumping out useful idiots than actual analysts.

And for the record, most of the Gulf countries don't even want US military bases on their soil anymore. MBS is consolidating the nation-state model, and knowing that American bases are a threat to their sovereignty means this is just one big gift-wrapped opportunity to decouple from American security guarantees.

still-searching-for-something

Laughably, hilariously arrogant and moronic. Exactly what I'd expect from a commie tankie. "Some imperial core school" tells me all I need to know about your mental state. You just inhale Marxist dogma as your religion and call it praxis with zero critical reflection, and you call me brainwashed.

Iran attacking the Gulf States was Iran burning down their decades long diplomacy efforts to woo and corral the Gulf States by attacking their oil infrastructure to cause economic pain in the west. It actually pushes the Gulf States closer to the US and Israel, the opposite of your claim, because now they've decisively seen that diplomacy with Iran is a fool's errand. Now they have every reason to see Iran's regime deposed, more than they already did, because they know Iran can be trusted in absolutely no agreement they make. I'll highlight again (you must have missed it because Marx's dick was shoved too far down your throat) that the Gulf States allowed the US to use their airbases, which they did not do during the 12 Day War and would not have done if Iran hadn't been fucking stupid enough to attack them.

Basically, Iran just made permanent, long term enemies out of the most powerful Middle Eastern states in exchange for pressure to get a two week ceasefire, a ceasefire that is presently falling apart and wouldn't even preclude the possibility of a future war down the line. Very wise and long term strategic.

Iran is resilient to sanctions like a man bleeding out is resilient to dying of cancer. They're running out of water, their supreme leader is dead, their selected successor died in a helicopter crash and they have no backup, they have a population that nearly universally hates them and revolts every few years, and absolutely no way to restore their legitimacy. They've got bigger, more immediate problems that make the sanctions look like a mild inconvenience.

Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States expelling the US's military bases will happen when hell freezes over. Especially now, they're more dependent than ever on the US and Israel to defend them. They've been hoping to contain Iran through negotiations, and in that complacency, their military has been lax. The fucking Houthis have a better military than Saudi Arabia, and you think they're raring to expel their premier military ally? The guys who are gonna sell them the air defense systems to keep their skies clear for the tourists influencers? Give me a fucking break. They don't want to decouple, they want the US to do the job and kill the Iranian regime faster lmao

I'm not an 'actual analyst' lmao means a lot coming from the guy who reposts actual DPRK propaganda:

Oh no, I don't have the approval of the tankie who supports the most totalitarian regime on the planet, whatever will I do?

Also, your pinned post literally highlights your Bachelors degree in International Relations, you fucking hypocrite. 'Educated in an imperial core university' man, I knew tankies were bereft of a brain and a soul but goddamn, you impress me, truly.

For your next trick, are you gonna whine that the evil Zio spy had the temerity to argue against Your Supreme Moral Compass that leads you to back the most repressive regimes on Earth against the Global South?

homochadensistm

"the US and Israel dont care abt liberating the Iranian ppl, theyre not going to war for them :)))" yes, and??? Neither the US nor the Soviets or any Allied Nation cared about liberating the Jews from the death camps nor did they fight for that, yet u didnt see my grandparents pissing and shitting themselves over it. Amazing how intent is sooooo important to the westoids when it comes to actions but when it comes to words like "retard" it suddenly loses aaaalll of its dogmatic religious weight and ceases to exist lmao

jollygreengiantdick

Remind me how many schools and hospitals did the US bomb during WWII? Remind me how many innocent European civilians did they slaughter and then justify by calling them terrorists? Did the US start WWII and use it as an excuse to kill and replace Germany’s leader with a US friendly one for oil interests?

Can you explain why it is somehow the US’s right and/or responsibility to topple any regimes of any kind around the world? What about the current US regime? Should China assassinate trump to liberate Americans from the myriad human rights violations currently happening in the US? Can you explain how this time US intervention in the Middle East is going to have better results than the multiple other times in the past?

And as far as the r slur, the nazis were also very ableist and used similar language to speak about disabled people. If you’re trying to justify what the US and Israel are doing in Iran and Palestine right now, you’d have supported Germany in WWII if Hitler hadn’t directly targeted Jewish people.

pleasestopthese

dresden, nagasaki, hiroshima; the postwar demilitarization and protectorates. we literally did all of these things, literally took over these countries after the war and installed leaders who were not genocidal fascists after killing them so fucking hard they were completely demoralized. and it worked! now we have pokemon and david hasselhoff. arnold schwarzenegger tells us of his broken loser nazi father who’s burning in hell, and is proud of himself for being nothing like that man. hell yeah, thanks for coming to my ted talk.

cookingwithroxy

'When during WW2 did?'

Alll the fucking time.

But the really offensive thing @jollygreengiantdick said was 'justify by calling them terrorists?'

Because this isn't some US thing that came out of nowhere, GLOBALLY Iran's backing and supporting of terrorist forces to push their own political agendas is EXESSIVELY well known.

And that's BEFORE we get into what Iran does to IT'S OWN PEOPLE.

This is why I can't fucking stand people who have this whole 'we are bad so they must be good' mentality. They'll bow over for every fucking genocidal dictatorship because they can't imagine the kinds of hardships that exist out in the world because they live in the most coddled societies possible. Claiming they live in a fascist empire, while simping for actual oppressive dictatorships.

jollygreengiantdick

So what you’re saying is you support western imperialism bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East in the name of “freedom” because you gullibly believe the US is even going to attempt to “liberate” the Iranian people, instead of installing a US-friendly leader who will allow the US and israel to exploit the country’s oil fields for profit?

You deep throat the boots of the US military industrial complex when you try to make excuses for why it’s okay for them to bomb another nation unprovoked. Your indignant self-righteousness over “freeing” a people who never asked the US to start bombing their cities and then justify it by calling them all terrorists with WMDs (just like Bush did) is astounding.

You are doing Olympic level mental gymnastics to justify why the US has any right or responsibility whatsoever to interfere with another nation’s government or people because you’ve been propagandized and brainwashed by western media to believe the US is ever righteous or sympathetic to the civilians they’re bombing.

Since it’s okay to overthrow a state we don’t like and kill their fascist leader, I’m assuming you’d welcome a foreign invasion in which trump was killed and a “regime change” was installed by that foreign country, right?

Please use your brain instead of blindly swallowing the lies and propaganda being spoon fed to you by your favorite western news outlets.

cookingwithroxy

You will note that at no point did I say anything about if what is going on right now is good. Or if it's bad. What I stated was very very easily accessible information about ww2 and the middle east.

What IS notable is that I cited easily accessible information, none of which is ever really denied by Iran... And you claimed it to be 'Propaganda'.

It's not surprising. That is how people like you justify your horrific behavior, by claiming reality is a lie because it doesn't live to your view of the world. But it's always fucking funny to run into someone who actively believes even the people they're acting in support OF are lying about the events going on in the world. EVERYONE's in on the Propaganda, except for you.

jollygreengiantdick

Your entire rant was about how evil Iran is. That is quite literally arguing for why it’s good that the US did it, even if you don’t want it to be. That easily accessible information doesn’t at all justify the US’s intervention and bombing of the very people it claims to be trying to help by killing their leader.

Your insistence that Iran is evil because of their backing of terrorist orgs seems to ignore the history of the US funding a terrorist org (mujahideen) that then branched out to became al-qaeda and the taliban.

If your metric for how evil a regime is relies on its funding terrorists, maybe look into the US’s history of that before you use it to defend the US. They also funded the Contras in Nicaragua, who used terror and rape to attempt to overthrow a democratically elected socialist government. The US has been using state sanctioned violence against its own people for centuries (most obvious example is the civil rights movement during which law enforcement lynched countless black protesters/activists to silence them) so miss me with that excuse too. What, do you think it’s not as bad because the US isn’t doing it to white people?

Every single thing you claimed makes Iran evil (and imply that it justifies what the US is doing) has been done and is still being done by the US. Your ignorant hypocrisy IS part of the western propaganda you’ve been consuming for years.

cookingwithroxy

You... Denied that there was any backing of terrorism, and then when terrorism was proven, now claim that proving there was terrorism is just blindly supporting the USA.

You denied that there was mass murder, and now respond to the existance of mass murder as somehow deflecting away from crimes in the USA.

I said nothing about if the united states did one thing or another, because my entire point is, and always has been, that you're unwilling to accept the idea that there may be evil nations outside if the united states, and that you will, in fact, deny the existence of evil in order to maintain the position that the USA is the sole creator OF evil.

You don't even need to be fed propaganda, because you are the own source of your propaganda. Speaking to you is like trying to deal with any conspiracy theorist. You will turn any refutation of your denial of physical reality into proof that you are conspired against.

You can be a flat-earther all you wish. but I'm not obligated to buy into your conspiracy world view just because you don't want to admit to the evils existing in the world.

That this does in fact make you eager to support said evil goes without saying, but I think it's funny to point it out anyway.

jollygreengiantdick

@cookingwithroxy

You response makes no sense. Please quote where I denied there was backing of terrorism. Please quote where I denied there was mass murder. Your “point” was from the beginning to point out how evil Iran is in response to someone asking about OP’s justification for the US’s actions and motives in its unprovoked attack of Iran.

My entire point has been that the US started this war with the goal of obtaining oil sources and replacing the Iranian leader with a more US-friendly one, not with the goal of helping the people of Iran, and things will likely be worse for those people after the US is done there, as they have been every time the US has interfered in the Middle East before.

All of your replies have been an attempt to prove Iran is evil after being asked why the US has any right or responsibility to “liberate” anyone in other countries, while you completely ignored the actual question.

So, after you show me the exact quotes in my replies where I deny anything you say I did, please answer my question: What right or responsibility does the US have to attack another nation and kill its leader unprovoked?

cookingwithroxy

You must have edited this to tag me so as to try and get my attention, when I was ignoring you for being a crazy conspiracy theorist.

But fuck it, I can answer your dumbass questions really fast.

Denied the existence of terrorism? 'Remind me how many innocent European civilians did they slaughter and then justify by calling them terrorists?' Framing the bombing of Iran in the context of ww2 and questioning the actions as 'Justif(ed) by calling them terrorists' is a framing that infers that the accusation of terrorism is at best overblown to at worse overtly false.

Denied the existence of mass murder? 'Did the US start WWII and use it as an excuse to kill and replace Germany’s leader with a US friendly one for oil interests?'

The very framing that the only motivation is oil is itself denial that there could even BE any other reasons. Like mass murder.

And if ANY of that wasn't enough, the simple fact that you responded to the direct evidence of both terrorism and mass murder with accusations of those things being 'Propaganda' just further proves the point that you only admit them to being real now because it's blatantly obvious YOU DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE MURDER OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE.

YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE OPPRESSION THAT THEY FACE FROM THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP.

They exist to you only as proxies for your permanent conspiracy theory, and I don't have time to waste on a fucking flat earther who handwaves away mass murder because it doesn't fit into your grand world view.

Fuck off.