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@evelynjoan
im going insane bro theyre literally filling cities w armed goons asking people for proof of citizenship and rightoids who have literally been paralyzed with fear imagining this exact outcome are like It's chill don't worry. trained dog people
The left is just getting as good as they gave supporting lockdowns.
you see thats the problem w you guys theres no like higher lvl of consideration to anything you believe. its just shit slinging at the end of the day to you. the lockdown happened so people wouldnt fucking die. it wasnt some broad political scheme to keep people inside it was so people did not literally die of lung rot disease. yeah they fucked up a lot but literally nothing like that had ever happened before (also trump shut the world down first, im sorry you have the cultural memory of a tick). theyre just killing people in the streets now man. that is objectively whats happening. it is against every proposed tenent of conservatism that you people ostensibly believe in. but none of that matters because you because your relationship with politics is imagining people you dont like getting hurt, which is the only way it can entertain your deranged brain. no imagination of a better life, no consideration of how to reduce suffering, etc. just about how many toys you get and imagining killing whoever shuts off the toy valve. fuck man get some perspective.
your relationship with politics is imagining people you dont like getting hurt
Bout right.
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so few people appreciate the wisdom I have to offer.........
I hate that people simplify the torture and deaths of the holy virgin martyrs of Rome into being ‘they chose death over sex and betraying god’. the point of these women isn’t just that they died for their faith, they died for their agency. they’re more than just ‘the first virgin saints’, they’re stories of fierce bravery, determination, and love of self. these women lived in deeply dangerous times to exist as women, and were the property of the men in their lives. they didn’t have the right to say no to marriage or sex. they didn’t have the right to decide their own fate. when they consecrated themselves to god, it was a choice, a choice that they made, willingly, of their own volition, and the fact that they clung to that, that consent, that power, that divine agency, in the face of extreme brutality and inhumanity is breathtaking. agatha, lucy, apollonia, agnes, and others aren’t ‘just’ women who chose god over sex. They’re women who chose themselves over agony through choosing god, and in doing so, became saints venerated by all
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As it gets towards Christmas, you're unfortunately going to see people (Christians and non-Christians alike) making fun of people who only attend Church services around Christmas/Easter time. Please do not let these people put you off attending. Whether you're just wanting to explore what attending a Church is like, wanting to see what religious celebrations of Christmas is like, whether you're someone that only comes to Church for Christmas, or if you're just going along because someone you care about wants to go. I promise that you are welcome. I promise that although these voices can sometimes be loud and rude, they are absolutely just a vocal minority. The majority of people are thrilled to see new faces at Church. Priests want to welcome and connect with new people, even if only briefly. And if people do have an issue? That's entirely their problem.
Churches would love to welcome you for Christmas, and we absolutely invite you to join in our festive celebrations. A lot of Churches around this time start holding Christmas stalls, Choir/Christmas Carols nights, festive meals, and so on. And you're absolutely more than welcome to join. You do not have to have a certain level of faith, or have a certain amount of church attendance the rest of the year in order to be 'allowed' to come. And hey look, even if you're only considering coming along because you don't have anyone else to spend Christmas with and don't want to spend the day alone. That's okay too, I promise <3
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"At what point can OSA radfems who date men and get abused be expected to take responsibility for their risky behavior? I mean what did they expect? They read the statistics." At literally no fucking point you idiot troglodytes. Please throw your laptop out a window and don't talk to any other people until you get your head screwed on straight.
Men are actually human beings with agency and not rabid wild animals so they get to take full responsibility for when they hurt women! There's no need for the woman, no matter how feminist and educated she is, to take any responsibility because he gets to take it all <3 hope this helps!
Yeah, this mindset always gives me pause, because I do think men are dangerous to OSA women and I do think women should hesitate to partner with men, but like... what are they supposed to do? Not fall in love? I wish we had female spaces and they could just not rely on men, and I do think it would be better but it feels so cruel to imply that their pain is only because of their choice of trying their best to find a compromise in a world that has hurt them. That's so fucked up, and it gives this weird undercurrent of, "And that's why lesbian relationships are morally good" that you read in political lesbian works. And we all hate those.
i still maintain that it is an extremely chronically online take to suggest that all het radfems should commit themselves to a lifetime of celibacy for political reasons. like, uncharacteristically unempathetic as far as radfem positions go
Okay but if the majority of women stopped choosing to partner with men the World would start to change rather quickly..so it's Not about a "Life Time" of celibacy..Not actively seeking out relationships with men is just the most logical Step for a radical feminist. And whats so Bad about Not dating for a few years (or Not fucking) if it means more peace and safety for yourself
of all the het women in the world, those willing to engage in separatism are a very, very small minority. if any given het women decided today that shes never gonna partner with a man again, there is no way that that choice would enact as quick of social change as you are describing. radical feminism does not have that kind of reach or power yet.
I mean Yeah obviously they arent willing.. That's why posts like this exist..
But how can you say that things wouldnt change (quickly) if they were willing
Also my question still is, why, as a radfem knowing all the statistics as Well as first Hand experiences, would you Not at least try to stop dating men for a few years..? Or why would you still want to date them, maybe that's the better question
but they're not. that is the real world that we live in. i'm talking about the consequences of real life real women's actions, not hypothetical ones.
as for why some women wouldn't want to commit to a lifetime of celibacy/no romantic partnership (because yes, it would be a lifetime)... a quick practice in basic empathy may help you understand why that would be difficult.
humans are not fully rational beings that digest statistic and immediately act accordingly. we have competing wants, needs, and desires. it is difficult. doesn't mean it is impossible, but there are many valid reasons why it is a highly, highly unpopular decision.
Like what Are the reasons it's unpopular Except " i May feel lonely"??? Idgi i really dont
y'all got me at "try to be empathetic towards victims of male abuse" and you lost me at "waaa not dating men is so hard tho" lmao
a lot more het women wish to not date men, more than you think. women with barely the clothes on their backs have risked everything to live a celibate life, but those who can do that and those who can express their wishes on fucking social media are a very small number because most women don't have the incredible courage or means to leave or to tell the world about it. and those who can live a celibate life, even "for a few years, for political reasons, as a form of protest" refuse to do so. yeah you're right, it is irrational that you, one of the few women who has access to so many statistics and found a space where women can openly talk about male violence, still cling to the idea that you might be the one in a million lucky woman to find the radical feminist ally of your dreams, and ignore the fact that the vast majority of women will either end up single or tied up to misogynistic men
instead of trying to evade questions such as "why is it so hard for you to not date men? +" how about you ask yourself why is it so easy for us to not flirt with men, not use tinder, not accept to go on dates, not have sex with males and so on even though a lot of us still consume romance and still fantasize about males?
also don't talk about "oh being celibate won't do shit because radical feminism is too niche" when so many males are shitting themselves because of the male loneliness epidemic the low birth rates and female independence. movements such as 6b4t wouldn't be so demonized if they didn't have any effects
@cholulafem
im not speaking from my personal romantic experience. i've chosen to keep my sexuality private here and you do not know whether i am het-partnered/whether i intend to be. i've avoided the "why is it so hard for you" question because i'm not talking about myself. stop trying to speculate about what i personally "cling to" or desire for myself romantically. it's weird.
i never said that separatism for het women isn't ideal, isn't admirable, or isn't doable. i think all of those things are true. i also don't encourage women to pursue relationships with men, and certainly not in the way you're describing.
i'm not interested in asking you, a bisexual person, how easy it is to abstain from pursuing males. for you, doing so does not mean committing to a life of no romantic/sexual partnership. there's a reason why i specified het women here.
what compelled you to draw so many conclusions? just because i said that separatism is an unrealistically tall order for het women -- not all het women, but many -- doesn't mean that i then advocate for a lifelong pursuit of male validation. there are ways to help het women gain class consciousness/protect themselves that don't involve complete, immediate, permanent separation. your black-and-white thinking and condescension doesn't make you a better feminist.
when you act like it's sooo easy for bi women and lesbians to tell straight women to stop dating males because we can just easily date eachother the way straight people do you can see why I assume you're also straight. if you don't want to ask me then feel free to ask any celibate straight woman. and if you can't understand that "just be empathetic and you'll ✨realize✨ why other women still date males when they are fully aware of the extent of male violence" is a bullshit answer I can't help you
sorry not sorry but there's no way to empathetically explain to someone that most men either cheat, watch porn, rape, are violent, are disrespectful, see you as inferior, will try to use you for chores baby making and sex, will support other similar males, simply do not care enough to try to understand the female condition and have empathy towards women, and there's no way to truly know if the man in front of you is a good man because he will lie and manipulate and hide these things from you if he has to. most women will end up either single or with one of these men like it or not. you don't need to complain about me when men are already pushing women towards celibacy simply by being themselves lol
and there are a lot of women who aren't fully aware of or they agree with some of these behaviors because of internalized misogyny but isn't the goal to try to eliminate internalized misogyny and make women more aware of male violence anyway? and at least they have these reasons for why they still date males but it's baffling to me how someone who calls herself a radical feminist and says she "peaked on male bs" is willing to play with fire because being single is worse than the alternative apparently? or she's just so confident in her abilities to "get a good man" that the risks are almost nonexistent in her mind? or straight love and loneliness make you that irrational and I simply do not have this problem, lucky me. I might get continuing a long term relationship you already had but being single and still tryin to date? no. you want to talk about empathy and real world consequences of women's actions then there's an entire discussion to have about the consequences of dating males. I might be a cold hearted bitch for listing all the stats and suggesting celibacy but at least I'm not doing to them what men do to their partners, which is what I'm trying to prevent, so don't speak to me about my empathy for women
when the world started promoting tradwife-ism and bimbo bs to young women as a response for the male loneliness epidemic and low birth rates then I'm gonna promote celibacy as well, which "might be ideal or admirable or doable but is not gonna enact as quick of a social change as we wish because radical feminism doesn't have that kind of reach or power yet", forget about the fact that most celibate women are not radicals or even feminists or that one of the reasons radical feminism is not popular is because we're actively being silenced when trying to speak to women about it or about male violence, I should just stop telling women to be celibate because it's so unempathetic, much better to keep my mouth shut and pretend that doesn't count as keeping dating males as the status quo because I chose to not engage in the discussion
we agree on multiple points. empathy can extend in multiple directions. hope that helps
I'm not gonna lie, I did not read the whole thread. That being said, I a lesbian could not imagine never ever dating women because (hypothetically) the majority of women are abusive and/or known for being horrible partners. It wouldn't stop me from trying to find the ONE that isn't! It isn't stopping me now form trying to find the right one in the sea of mentally unstable and trans-identifying women!
I can and should as a radical feminist empathize with het-women. They can't realistically go with their lives without a man's love. It's like one of the primary things in healthy human brains to seek a partner/companion for life because humans are social animals, we need love, and we need to reserve love. And I want all my sisters to be happy.
To say to any human being that they can't love who they want is just brutal! This is what homosexuals heard from society for the last centuries.
No, you can't just go and stop loving men as a het-women, same as I can't stop loving women as a lesbian. It's just like cholilafem said, empathy can extend in multiple directions.
Also quick reminder that radical feminism IS NOT separatism. Those are TWO DIFFERENTS political movements that are often intertwine but it's still two different things. Don't act as if those two are synonyms of one another. You can be one only or both.
Simone Legno, creator of Luce & Tokidoki’s most recent art exhibit in Lucca, Italy, honoring the Blessed Mother.
Of course you think having a vagina but not relating to degrading feminine stereotypes makes you a special , third, non binary thing- you’re 12 years old.
The immaturity of thinking you’re one of the few vagina-having humans with a complex interiority that transcends gender roles. “Everyone is 12” theory really shows in identity ideologies
“I’m not a woman, I’m just a person” what if I told you that women are people?
"Well if the roles were reversed! And women did (insert bad thing here)!!" Well good thing if the roles are reversed yall don't like it or let it slide right?
Good thing when ever there's a some pedo female teacher there isn't a bunch of men in the comments asking why the child is complaining about being raped.
Good thing when weirdo only fans chicks flash people, you don't say "god I wish that was me" or some shit.
Good thing yall rally around male survivors of abuse.... oh wait men don't do that unless they can dunk on a woman when the vast majority of abuse comes from other men.
The "what if the roles were reversed" crowd is so deeply fucking unserious. You can never convince me that women do the same amount of damage that men do.
Imagine writing a romance story where the protagonist isn’t even given an “I love you”
That shit was so abusive. Why did Nesta have to all-of-a-sudden see herself as worthless in ACOFAS for her to fall in love with ACOSF Cassian… either let her hate the IC in peace or give her a love interest in a different court. This “romance” was a character assassination of Cassian and Nesta. It’s never been more obvious that sjm pulls canon out of her ass as she goes.
“Everyone f*cking hates you”
“I didn’t ask to be shackled to you”
‘My best friend wants you dead so let’s add physical abuse on top of my verbal abuse’
And then for Nesta to think about how she doesn’t deserve him??????????????????
She is forced to train, is forced to participate in the rite, and yet is the only one of her friends to not pass because she is ATTACKED by her (possessed) mate??????????!?
And on top of all of that…. She loses her powers in the end??? The powers that weren’t even explored after they served their purpose in the war and for finding things….
I’m sorry but SJM needs therapy. God forbid a woman not be nice
Nesta deserves to be with someone who makes her feel relaxed, protected, and happy. That’s kinda the bare minimum in a relationship… and instead she’s constantly fighting for her life in the group chat (is yelled at by the IC), is always tense, and was written to be absolutely broken mentally
Personally, I don’t think Nesta would have started drinking and sleeping around after the war. Although she would have distanced herself from the IC for their abusive behavior, I think she would have clung to any traits that were reminiscent of her human life. Everything happened so fast I don’t think she’d be ready to have sex with any man let alone fae. She would have clung to all of the things that make her a Lady like she did as a child in the cabin. Her whole personality is based on being proud and regal and stoic. She’s a suffer in silence type if ever there was one. She clung to a tiny figurine her father made when everyone would have interpreted her as hating her father. I know that girl has trust issues— she’s not blacking out and taking random men into her home (especially when she can smell them the next morning). ACOSF was genuinely hard to stomach.
"At what point can OSA radfems who date men and get abused be expected to take responsibility for their risky behavior? I mean what did they expect? They read the statistics." At literally no fucking point you idiot troglodytes. Please throw your laptop out a window and don't talk to any other people until you get your head screwed on straight.
Men are actually human beings with agency and not rabid wild animals so they get to take full responsibility for when they hurt women! There's no need for the woman, no matter how feminist and educated she is, to take any responsibility because he gets to take it all <3 hope this helps!
Yeah, this mindset always gives me pause, because I do think men are dangerous to OSA women and I do think women should hesitate to partner with men, but like... what are they supposed to do? Not fall in love? I wish we had female spaces and they could just not rely on men, and I do think it would be better but it feels so cruel to imply that their pain is only because of their choice of trying their best to find a compromise in a world that has hurt them. That's so fucked up, and it gives this weird undercurrent of, "And that's why lesbian relationships are morally good" that you read in political lesbian works. And we all hate those.
i still maintain that it is an extremely chronically online take to suggest that all het radfems should commit themselves to a lifetime of celibacy for political reasons. like, uncharacteristically unempathetic as far as radfem positions go
Okay but if the majority of women stopped choosing to partner with men the World would start to change rather quickly..so it's Not about a "Life Time" of celibacy..Not actively seeking out relationships with men is just the most logical Step for a radical feminist. And whats so Bad about Not dating for a few years (or Not fucking) if it means more peace and safety for yourself
of all the het women in the world, those willing to engage in separatism are a very, very small minority. if any given het women decided today that shes never gonna partner with a man again, there is no way that that choice would enact as quick of social change as you are describing. radical feminism does not have that kind of reach or power yet.
I mean Yeah obviously they arent willing.. That's why posts like this exist..
But how can you say that things wouldnt change (quickly) if they were willing
Also my question still is, why, as a radfem knowing all the statistics as Well as first Hand experiences, would you Not at least try to stop dating men for a few years..? Or why would you still want to date them, maybe that's the better question
but they're not. that is the real world that we live in. i'm talking about the consequences of real life real women's actions, not hypothetical ones.
as for why some women wouldn't want to commit to a lifetime of celibacy/no romantic partnership (because yes, it would be a lifetime)... a quick practice in basic empathy may help you understand why that would be difficult.
humans are not fully rational beings that digest statistic and immediately act accordingly. we have competing wants, needs, and desires. it is difficult. doesn't mean it is impossible, but there are many valid reasons why it is a highly, highly unpopular decision.
Like what Are the reasons it's unpopular Except " i May feel lonely"??? Idgi i really dont
y'all got me at "try to be empathetic towards victims of male abuse" and you lost me at "waaa not dating men is so hard tho" lmao
a lot more het women wish to not date men, more than you think. women with barely the clothes on their backs have risked everything to live a celibate life, but those who can do that and those who can express their wishes on fucking social media are a very small number because most women don't have the incredible courage or means to leave or to tell the world about it. and those who can live a celibate life, even "for a few years, for political reasons, as a form of protest" refuse to do so. yeah you're right, it is irrational that you, one of the few women who has access to so many statistics and found a space where women can openly talk about male violence, still cling to the idea that you might be the one in a million lucky woman to find the radical feminist ally of your dreams, and ignore the fact that the vast majority of women will either end up single or tied up to misogynistic men
instead of trying to evade questions such as "why is it so hard for you to not date men? +" how about you ask yourself why is it so easy for us to not flirt with men, not use tinder, not accept to go on dates, not have sex with males and so on even though a lot of us still consume romance and still fantasize about males?
also don't talk about "oh being celibate won't do shit because radical feminism is too niche" when so many males are shitting themselves because of the male loneliness epidemic the low birth rates and female independence. movements such as 6b4t wouldn't be so demonized if they didn't have any effects
@cholulafem
im not speaking from my personal romantic experience. i've chosen to keep my sexuality private here and you do not know whether i am het-partnered/whether i intend to be. i've avoided the "why is it so hard for you" question because i'm not talking about myself. stop trying to speculate about what i personally "cling to" or desire for myself romantically. it's weird.
i never said that separatism for het women isn't ideal, isn't admirable, or isn't doable. i think all of those things are true. i also don't encourage women to pursue relationships with men, and certainly not in the way you're describing.
i'm not interested in asking you, a bisexual person, how easy it is to abstain from pursuing males. for you, doing so does not mean committing to a life of no romantic/sexual partnership. there's a reason why i specified het women here.
what compelled you to draw so many conclusions? just because i said that separatism is an unrealistically tall order for het women -- not all het women, but many -- doesn't mean that i then advocate for a lifelong pursuit of male validation. there are ways to help het women gain class consciousness/protect themselves that don't involve complete, immediate, permanent separation. your black-and-white thinking and condescension doesn't make you a better feminist.
when you act like it's sooo easy for bi women and lesbians to tell straight women to stop dating males because we can just easily date eachother the way straight people do you can see why I assume you're also straight. if you don't want to ask me then feel free to ask any celibate straight woman. and if you can't understand that "just be empathetic and you'll ✨realize✨ why other women still date males when they are fully aware of the extent of male violence" is a bullshit answer I can't help you
sorry not sorry but there's no way to empathetically explain to someone that most men either cheat, watch porn, rape, are violent, are disrespectful, see you as inferior, will try to use you for chores baby making and sex, will support other similar males, simply do not care enough to try to understand the female condition and have empathy towards women, and there's no way to truly know if the man in front of you is a good man because he will lie and manipulate and hide these things from you if he has to. most women will end up either single or with one of these men like it or not. you don't need to complain about me when men are already pushing women towards celibacy simply by being themselves lol
and there are a lot of women who aren't fully aware of or they agree with some of these behaviors because of internalized misogyny but isn't the goal to try to eliminate internalized misogyny and make women more aware of male violence anyway? and at least they have these reasons for why they still date males but it's baffling to me how someone who calls herself a radical feminist and says she "peaked on male bs" is willing to play with fire because being single is worse than the alternative apparently? or she's just so confident in her abilities to "get a good man" that the risks are almost nonexistent in her mind? or straight love and loneliness make you that irrational and I simply do not have this problem, lucky me. I might get continuing a long term relationship you already had but being single and still tryin to date? no. you want to talk about empathy and real world consequences of women's actions then there's an entire discussion to have about the consequences of dating males. I might be a cold hearted bitch for listing all the stats and suggesting celibacy but at least I'm not doing to them what men do to their partners, which is what I'm trying to prevent, so don't speak to me about my empathy for women
when the world started promoting tradwife-ism and bimbo bs to young women as a response for the male loneliness epidemic and low birth rates then I'm gonna promote celibacy as well, which "might be ideal or admirable or doable but is not gonna enact as quick of a social change as we wish because radical feminism doesn't have that kind of reach or power yet", forget about the fact that most celibate women are not radicals or even feminists or that one of the reasons radical feminism is not popular is because we're actively being silenced when trying to speak to women about it or about male violence, I should just stop telling women to be celibate because it's so unempathetic, much better to keep my mouth shut and pretend that doesn't count as keeping dating males as the status quo because I chose to not engage in the discussion
we agree on multiple points. empathy can extend in multiple directions. hope that helps
I'm not gonna lie, I did not read the whole thread. That being said, I a lesbian could not imagine never ever dating women because (hypothetically) the majority of women are abusive and/or known for being horrible partners. It wouldn't stop me from trying to find the ONE that isn't! It isn't stopping me now form trying to find the right one in the sea of mentally unstable and trans-identifying women!
I can and should as a radical feminist empathize with het-women. They can't realistically go with their lives without a man's love. It's like one of the primary things in healthy human brains to seek a partner/companion for life because humans are social animals, we need love, and we need to reserve love. And I want all my sisters to be happy.
To say to any human being that they can't love who they want is just brutal! This is what homosexuals heard from society for the last centuries.
No, you can't just go and stop loving men as a het-women, same as I can't stop loving women as a lesbian. It's just like cholilafem said, empathy can extend in multiple directions.
Also quick reminder that radical feminism IS NOT separatism. Those are TWO DIFFERENTS political movements that are often intertwine but it's still two different things. Don't act as if those two are synonyms of one another. You can be one only or both.
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btw kink sex is fucking lame. there’s so many ways to have sex besides “missionary in the dark” that doesn’t involve pretending one of you is a child, animal, abuse victim or otherwise doesn’t have a choice. sex where both people avidly enjoy and consent and don’t pretend otherwise is actually super fun. i cannot believe i grew up being told sex is either “kinky” or lame. get fucking creative, man. minuscule-minded.
before you argue; if ur “kink” doesn’t involve diminished choice (bondage, dom/sub, teacher/student), abuse (hitting, strangulation) or pretended rape (child, animal, cnc) then i’m not talking about you and i don’t care that ur into feet or fae roleplay or whatever.
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