one time I was eating a lox bagel at the airport terminal and a guy near me started freaking out and yelling into the phone that “this kid is eating FISH on a BAGEL can you BELIEVE IT?!” sir this is the traditional way to eat a bagel in America; get with the program
More proof that america is an elaborate hoax
#i. actually do not believe you
wait which part? that bagels with lox is traditional (it’s Yiddish) or that some Americans have never heard of it and think it’s a really bizarre new way to eat a bagel?
I… had to look this up and am now mad I had never heard of this before what the FUCK you can get SALMON on BAGELS and nobody fucking told me?
now i love fish but on a bagel? heresy
But a bagel is just… bread! There are lots of different kinds of fish sandwiches with other types of bread. Even McDonalds sells Fillet’o’Fish. Lox on bagels with cream cheese (and onions and capers) has been probably the #1 most popular bagel dish in America since long before bagels became mainstream outside Jewish-American culture. Anywhere that sells bagels with toppings typically offers them with lox. And it’s good! It’s sort of a “once a year treat” for me for sustainability reasons, but it really is like… the definitive bagel dish.
I have never seen someone eating fish on a bagel in my entire American life
Yes a bagle is bread but so it a hot dog bun or a pizza crust or hardtack
I would be willing to kill god for the crime of eating a hotdog on a bagle
Okay here’s the DIFFERENCE though: fish has always been eaten on bagel. Jews invented bagels. Jews then put fish on bagels. Then the concept was introduced to America. Your ignorance of traditional ways to eat bagels as invented by the people who invented bagels is just a sign that A) you haven’t paid attention in many/any bagel shops in this country and B) you don’t know any Jewish people at all
Ship is right. This is a definitive way to eat a bagel.
I used to work at a bagel shop. We definitely sold lox bagels. But yeah, so many people freaked out about lox even being an option, and they would say shit like “why can’t they just eat bacon/ham/sausage like how ~normal~ people eat bagels.” And I think that’s a related issue. I think lots of people hating this lox stuff would still be willing to put bacon and egg and cheese on a bagel, because THAT’s a ~normal~ way to eat a breakfast bagel. But if your community doesn’t eat pork, you need a different normal.
yeah it’s um. not great. I’m not sure if microaggression is the right word, but also bagels were invented as a result of antisemitism,[1] so having [some] gentiles be like “why can’t they eat bagels like NORMAL PEOPLE?” is really…baffling. how often is it that a community makes a food which is popularized in such a way that the traditional community literally can’t eat it?
Like, American immigrants create hybridized cuisines/dishes all the time, and over time they become “different,” and often anglicized. Over decades this often becomes the non-ethnic-ethnic food, like “Taco Bell.” Right? But Jewish food…not only becomes mainstream, but popularized as explicitly non-kosher (with bacon) and then further so very popularized that way that people think it’s wrong or abnormal to eat Jewish food non-Jewishly. I’d be interested to know about like other examples of this.
[1] Here’s an article from the Atlantic which covers a book that discusses the history of the bagel moving from rounded bread baked similar to a pretzel, to what we know as a bagel:
Going back a bit, at the same time Germans were making their way to Poland, so too were a good number of Jews, which is where my ancestors would have gotten involved. In that era it was quite common in Poland for Jews to be prohibited from baking bread. This stemmed from the commonly held belief that Jews, viewed as enemies of the Church, should be denied any bread at all because of the holy Christian connection between bread, Jesus, and the sacrament. Strange though it sounds, Jews were often legally banned from commercial baking.
The bagel as Jewish food really came of age during the era of Polish history known as the “Nobles’ Democracy.” While intolerance and conflict reigned elsewhere, Poland was probably the preeminent country for tolerance, acceptance, education, and understanding. Unlike almost every other country in Europe, Poles identified themselves as citizens of their country rather than of any divisive framework based on religious, ethnic, or linguistic origins. This mindset created the environment where Jews were first allowed the opportunity to bake, and then sell, bread – of which bagels were an integral part.
The shift started to take place in the late 13th century. Balinska refers to the breakthrough code that came from the Polish Prince Boleslaw the Pious in 1264 that said, “Jews may freely buy and sell and touch bread like Christians.” To quote Balinska, “This was a radical step, so radical that (in reaction) in 1267 a group of Polish bishops forbade Christians to buy any foodstuffs from Jews, darkly hinting that they contained poison for the unsuspecting gentile.” At some point, the theory goes, Jews were allowed to work with bread that was boiled, and they created the bagel to comply with his ruling.
The Secret History of Bagels
I once watched one of my southern cousins fry salted ham in Coca-Cola and slap it on an everything bagel with cream cheese
Since we’re talking of micro-aggressions
Also it’s not like. a fillet of salmon that you poach or fry or whatever, it’s smoked salmon, which is a delicacy. that’s literally the main/only way I know of bagels being eaten in the UK, with cream cheese and chives, it’s the main option at every single supermarket/cafe/deli I go to
