winter

pervert | mostly hr | 20 | any pronouns | 18+

[cuppydogshane]

the way vegas bathroom scene is literally romantic

[texasbama]

whatever you say beautiful.

[loontattoo]

can I just say I LOVEEEEEE seeing sex on television

[sapphling]

gets a post like from the esoteric fetish mutual and slides a single bead away from the side of an abacus labeled KILL SELF

[naturalpr3y]

Puppyshane who is always grinding on ilyas legs like everytime he gets an opportunity. and ilya will go Aw puppy thats sweet ☺️ i know what you need . and get a pillow for him to hump at his feet instead . and situates it between shanes legs for him . 😍😍😍

[naturalpr3y]

even when dogshane is well trained he gets to be ilyas puppy sometimes . and he doesnt know betterrrrr >_< Even then ilya will sometimes just be like Get off .

[allstarrocks]

ilya housebreaking shane :}

[allstarrocks]

ilya making shane drink so so much water and telling shane theyre gonna go sit outside for a bit and setting up a lawn chair for himself and making shane sit in the grass and then just. staying there all day until shane pisses himself and he feels so dirty and so humilated and ilya tells him oh good boy! did u go potty? And he cleans him off with a hose before hes allowed back inside

[comingatthecottage]

i do genuinely believe that shane would agree to try pretty much anything sexual ilya wanted because he has no doubt that ilya knows his body better than he knows it himself and he trusts ilya to make anything good

[sapphyshipseverything]

Shane be like:

[viciousratlol]

shane only being allowed to cum within time limits and in increasingly difficult and ridiculous circumstances/methods. it starts with ilya telling shane he has one chance to cum within 1 minute by humping ilya's foot. then it evolves beyond body parts—shane rubbing up against the couch, the fridge, against a cold bag of frozen fruit, his hands behind his back and face on the bathroom floor as he ruts his dick against the bathroom mat. outside in a muddy puddle after it's rained, just with the shower hose aimed at him. a lot of the time at first shane isn't successful, but every time ilya grants him the present of getting to cum and shane can't manage it, the longer he goes without getting that privilege :( until shane is able to do exactly what's expected of him.

[comingatthecottage]

just thinking about how much shane loves submitting to ilya and how much ilya loves dominating shane :) it makes me happy

[therealrashid]

i just think that when shane gets annoyed and stressed he gets all sweaty and red faced and his bangs stick to his forehead and he’s all frowny and ilya knows he can make it better if they’re home by coaxing and/or forcing something into shane’s mouth. doesn’t solve the problem necessarily but it gives shane something to self soothe on, just a thumb or a couple of ilya’s fingers and the frown lines start to smooth away, his eyes drifting shut as he starts to suck rhythmically. just a fussy baby, hm? ilya will say, condescending in that way that makes shane go all fuzzy. my baby needs to suckle, he says and shane opens his eyes to glare. m not a baby, he tries, tongue thick around ilya’s thick fingers. he pets on his tongue, underneath in the soft wet of his mouth. you are, my little baby. you need to smell me to calm down, don’t you? here, he says, and manoeuvres shane’s head so it’s nestled in his armpit, fingers still in his mouth, other hand heavy on the back of his neck. shane moans a little, nestles closer. there baby that’s better isn’t it he says, and he feels a little of shane’s drool wet the hair under his arm. that’s answer enough for him

[fixielixie]

shane getting really drunk and calling ilya daddy and then getting hard about it and then crying about it bc he’s embarrassed 😍 all while ilya is recording it 😍

[hudkarma]

it's a necessary gif okay

[pregnanthudsonwilliams]

hudson voice Daddy

[creamsiclemelt]

guys ilya domming is so important to him its so important to him...the patient NEEDS to have and exert power and be the respected and guiding hand in a dynamic to survive so bad. the patient needs to never feel acted upon without his explicit control SOOO bad. it is literally so important to me that we all understand that

[creamsiclemelt]

via @mybloodstream-caffeine with another banger

[creamsiclemelt]

guys can I say something. I think Ilya was domming from before shane. like he was a teenage boy so he wasn't like. Domming with a capital d. but he was certainly domming.

and then by the time a probably finished his first year or two in america, I think he was domming with a capital D

[naturalpr3y]

yes yes yes!! i think hes always ordered ppl around during sex, to me it comes across like this is What he Does!!!! his Moves! Thats his first instinct w shane and i dont get why ppl act like thats a normal “throw things at the wall” response lollll. Like he IS throwing shit at the wall but all of what he throws is Dominant. Commanding . Ordering . none of what he throws at the wall is letting shane take any control for himself. thats how he approaches trying to fuck someone and it seems like, before him, no one has taken it w the seriousness that shane has! and that is a part of why ilya finds him so perfecttttt

[creamsiclemelt]

i do think there was some sort of dynamic going on between him and sasha before hand but i see that as more of an informal brat/brat tamer situation. i think shane is maybe the first time he's been with someone who's been as eagerly submissive as he is, which ilya clearly liked a lot.

him pulling that move at the gym with the water bottle was not an accident. it was an experiment but not in the 'i'm playing around with what I like' kind of way, but more of a 'I'm playing to see what hes gonna do' way and the answer was submit, so ilya kept pushing and shane kept giving.

"Like he IS throwing shit at the wall but all of what he throws is Dominant. Commanding . Ordering" no exactly. he's throwing shit at the wall not to be like 'is this a thing I'm gonna like?' but more like a 'how is he gonna respond to this?' and again, shane, bc he is made for ilya and his domminess, keeps responding beautifully.

#myilya wanted to dom shane ever since he wanted to fuck shane, and approached the situation with that exact attitude

[lavenderprose]

I would. Like to speak again. About how Ilya is not actually being submissive. During tuna melt frot. But I will get myself in trouble again. So I can't.

[lavenderprose]

Okay okay okay. The number of times I just watched tuna frot was obscene but I am ready to speak.

So. I would like to start by saying that quite literally everything that Shane does in that scene is submissive. Ilya isn't overly dominant in the scene, true--we've seen him much more assertive. However, it's pretty obvious that, despite Shane initiating, Ilya has the control. And Shane initiating doesn't read as dominant. Shane kisses Ilya's body, beelining for Ilya's crotch, and then buries his face there. This is...somewhat textbook submission.

When Shane swings a leg over, we see the placement of Ilya's hands. We see him subtly correcting Shane's posture, the way he wants him to sit. Shane is physically on top of Ilya but he is not in what's really thought of as a dominant position. Lapsitting is, itself, an element of kink and in certain communities is considered a way to establish possession over a submissive partner; i.e. the submissive sits in the dominant's lap to show who they belong to. They're not in public so it's not really that, but I do really believe it's still meant to be read as shorthand for Shane's submissive tendencies. Which have been spoken about, multiple times, by multiple people involved in making the show, including Hudson Williams.

Now we reach the big moments that tend to be cited by submissive/switch Ilya truthers as indicators of submission:

The 'Seeing God' look that he aims at Shane

"Gonna come for me, Rozanov?" "Fucking make me."

Ilya's vocalizations

So let's address them in order.

Ilya's 'Seeing God' look is, I will admit, heady. But I don't see it as submissive. Ilya, I think, just straight up thinks that Shane is beautiful and it's showing on his face. Connor is a really expressive actor. It shows here. Ilya's thought process is really obvious here, thanks to Connor's skill, and it's pretty clearly something along the lines of: Holy shit. This man continues to be the most beautiful man I have ever seen. And he is taking his dick out. And he's going to rub our dicks together. Lucky me. Also, Ilya in this moment is under the impression that he and Shane have agreed to be--not together maybe, but more. More than what they've been. Ilya thinks that they are consummating the end of their hookup era. He's allowing himself to do some things he maybe hasn't done before. Look a little longer, maybe, or a little nicer. This is still Ilya setting the tone. And, at the end of the day, they're having sex. His expressions are going to be pretty drunken.

Shane's, "Gonna come for me, Rozanov?" has never, and I mean never read as dominant to me. He's practically whining, and tone in human communication holds almost as much weight as the words--sometimes more. If we replaced one single word ('for' with 'on') I genuinely don't think that anyone would think it was anything but submissive. When Ilya says Fucking make me, it's meant to be read as a command, though a soft one. It's actually still a little whiny, lmao, but Connor loses some of his gravely Ilya-tone in this scene, I think maybe because of the repeated takes or because he's matching Hudson's energy--which is shaky and a little frantic. I noticed it again on the line, "Yeah, okay, you forgot team meeting," where he sounds more like Connor than Ilya, though it's subtle. Anyway, this is a bit of a nothingburger for me. It's just a sexy thing to say and Shane probably knows that it will--y'know, make Ilya come.

Ilya's vocalizations--LET THE DOMTOPS MOAN. For God's sake. Some submissives don't like it, I guess, but in my opinion they don't know what they're missing. This was the one scene that I considered skipping when I watched with my sibling because Ilya's vocalizations literally made me feel a way that I didn't want to feel sitting in a room with family. Thankfully I was expecting it the second time and felt a little more sane about it, haha. But yeah again, nothing about this reads as submissive to me. He's just...having a good time?? He's got the guy he likes in his lap kissing him and touching his dick. I think the implication is that they've never frotted before. It's pretty fun and nice to be doing something new. Also, again, Ilya is feeling a bit less inhibited here. He thinks he and Shane have reached an understanding. He's happy. Let dominants enjoy sex...let dominants moan...God fucking dammit...

Anyway. Here are a few ways that Ilya is still dominant in this scene:

The aforementioned ways in which Ilya guides Shane's body.

I do believe that Ilya nudges Shane to get in his lap when he has his face in Ilya's crotch but that's up for interpretation

Ilya gives several approvals throughout the scene. His Mm-hms early in the scene and his Da, like that a bit later. We know already that Shane likes to have Ilya's permission/approval. This is probably a normal part of their sex and not unique to this moment of their relationship, though this is the only time we see it onscreen.

The big one, for me, is Ilya making Shane hold out his hand to be spit in. That's...very dynamic-y, in my mind. That's not really something that I imagine a submissive deciding to do. Even if the argument is that Ilya is a switch--which I think it is, for most people. It just doesn't read as even remotely submissive to me, I'm sorry. I don't really know what a dominant headspace is like but if Shane wanted to be dominant over Ilya in that moment at all, I think that would take him out of it a bit.

In summary:

Shane initiates, is maybe driving a bit, but Ilya is in control. Every escalation Shane makes in the scene is with Ilya's permission. You can see it in the way he helps Shane with their clothing, in the way he places his hands on very proprietary areas of Shane's body--his hips, then his chest. There's even a part I noticed in my multiple replays of the scene for this breakdown where it looks like Shane is nosing in for a kiss that he does not receive until Ilya allows it (It looks like he's busy watching Shane jerk him off, which...we know Ilya likes to watch it go in, so). Shane is servicing Ilya. Ilya is directing the ways Shane's body moves. They're not performing kink, to be clear--like, this isn't a scene. They're just having sex. But they have a very clear dynamic that they don't stray from and that dynamic involves Ilya being dominant. I can't force people to see it this way but I can tell you that that is what it reads as to someone who, at the very lease, knows what submission looks and feels like in the body and knows that that's not what Ilya is doing in that scene.

[elwenyere]

"Ultimately what kills me about Heated Rivalry is not just its dazzling, galvanic love story, nor its commitment to both narrative and erotic caretaking, but how it makes me feel about the not [yet] here of Melville’s imaginaries. I recently talked about the show and the novel with Rachel O’Connell, a literature scholar and new friend. She cracked open what I’ve been scrabbling at in my HR/MD monomania: the literary genre of contemporary MM romance provides one structural realization of an imagined world that Melville was trying to write into being in Moby-Dick. The messy, unfinished architecture of the novel cannot, as Ishmael confesses, 'be here, and at once, perfected.'

And not just in the novel: After all, Melville had asked Nathaniel Hawthorne to his cottage. In 1851, while composing Moby-Dick, he wrote Hawthorne a series of letters as heated by mid-19th-century standards as any scene in Heated Rivalry. In inviting his own possible situationship to come to his home—in his first known letter to Hawthorne—Melville, like a doped-up, concussed Shane, affects a lightness that doesn’t disguise its own feverishness: 'I am not to be charmed out of my promised pleasure […]. Your bed is already made, & the wood marked for your fire. […] I keep the word ‘Welcome’ all the time in my mouth, so as to be ready on the instant when you cross the threshold.' This 'welcome,' pleasurably effervescent on the tongue but freighted with the unsaid, is Melville’s version of the Canada Dry ginger ale and Coca-Cola that Ilya and Shane stock for each other."

“Heated Rivalry” Is the “Moby-Dick” of Canadian Gay Hockey Shows - Public Books

The literary genre of contemporary MM romance realizes an imagined world that Melville was trying to write into being.