hey guys! you don't understand how the animation industry works. Let me just post some explanations from an animator I know, who has actually worked on HB, along with some Disney and PBS shows (show names/episode numberss redacted for extra privacy):
They are trying to compare more established classic studio shows with an indie freelance show. Helluva Boss is freelance and the work is not constant, you get small chunks of it which means it's more of a side gig. The vast majority of people I worked with had full-time jobs and did HB on the side. This means that people just pick up a few scenes here and there
So as a result you're going to get a lot of people coming and going, doing a little work on one episode, maybe none on another. That'll lead to a lot more people coming in and out.
When I was working on episodes of S2, I wasn't constantly working. They'd give me a batch of scenes and I might knock them out in a week or less, and then might not have more scenes for a week depending on how the pipeline was moving.
Also you'll get a lot of newer animators who overestimate/have poor work ethic and because we're all working from home, they might not complete their shots on time or struggle with time management. There is no in-person studio, we have to manage ourselves. So I'm willing to bet sometimes they'd hire on animators who couldn't complete their assignments, and others would have to take over
To compare a work-from-home indie production with Owl House, Amphibia, and Steven Universe (large traditional decades old studios) is absolutely bonkers and speaks to how little these people know of the industry
Also I'm calling BS on the uncredited work, they ping us all and send us the credit list in advance and ask us to ensure our names were there and spelled correctly
I literally got NO credit for working on Disney TV shows so these people truly do not know wtf they're talking about
Actually just based on that final point -- I'm willing to bet Steven Universe et. al have a ton of uncredited people... which is why it looks like such a 'small' group of people worked on it. (you certainly didn't count all the overseas animators!)
IMDB is not accurate to who worked on what either, so using it to 'count' a crew is ridonculous (IMDB data is mostly user-contributed and not fact-checked)
IMDB credits are added in two ways I know of: Someone who wants to be very thorough manually adds ALL the credits from the end of an episode. If nobody does that, then people have to add themselves individually
I never created my imdb page, it was magically there was waiting for me because someone added the Helluva Boss episodes and added all the credits which included my name. But PBS TV Show, nobody has added the credits for the recent episodes so I had to go in and add myself manually if I wanted it to be in the imdb database. And for Disney TV Show, I added myself to imdb but have to add I'm "uncredited"
so to sum it up, it's not shady or malicious or extremely poor/unethical work conditions like the notes are wildly guessing at!
It's indie animation with no physical studio, so it's a LOT of people working away independently at little pieces. Animation is a HUGE iceburg, and for most companies you only get to see a tiny tiny fragment of the artists involved!
everybody hates a shady business, but don't go spreading rumors about entirely normal industry practices
if you are ACTUALLY concerned about people working in animation/the state of the animation industry please go out and support TAG (The Animation Guild) and follow #ripcartoonnetwork and #StayTooned
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