Cersei's Evil Vagina

Also Known As "Laine Writes Stuff"

[sunfyredefender77]

The fact that it’s more controversial to like Alicent than Daemon…

[tessarionbestgirl]

Just now re-watching I noticed that Viserys was the one that send tea to Rhaenyra room, basically that imply he didn't believe her, yet, send Otto away.

Like imaging being Alicent, she not only found out that Rhaenyra lied to her and slept with the guy she had a crush on, but as well she couldn't trust her husband because even knowing the true he cover up and send her father away. So that is why the dress scene was such a powerful scene for me.

She was complete isolated and cornered, so instead of hiding she show up at the wedding wearing a dress with the color of her house. A declaration of war, a little girl against all these powerful men with dragons.

[turtle-paced]

If the Tyrells hadn't done the purple wedding, would Tywin eventually have removed Joffrey from power anyway? Perhaps when Tommen was a bit older?

I think it's very unlikely that Tywin would remove Joffrey from a nominal position of power. In a practical sense:

"Thank you for that wisdom, Your Grace," Lord Tywin said, with a courtesy so cold it was like to freeze their ears off. "Ser Kevan, I can see the king is tired. Please see him safely back to his bedchamber. Pycelle, perhaps some gentle potion to help His Grace sleep restfully?"

"Dreamwine, my lord?"

"I don't want any dreamwine," Joffrey insisted.

Lord Tywin would have paid more heed to a mouse squeaking in the corner. "Dreamwine will serve. Cersei, Tyrion, remain."

Tyrion VI, ASoS

Yeah, he'd shunt Joffrey out of a position of influence, absolutely. Because he can't constantly be drugging the king and sending him to his room like a child, this chapter also sees Tywin contemplating a "sharp lesson" for Joffrey. To really make the trauma and fear of Tywin stick, you know?

[goodqueenaly]

And it’s important to remember what Joffrey represented for Tywin. Tywin had been working for the better part of three decades to put a Lannister on the Iron Throne: trying to marry Cersei to Rhaegar, watching the royal situation in the last years of Robert’s Rebellion, then succeeding in marrying Cersei to the new king Robert. Joffrey was (at least ostensibly) the perfect end product of this ambition: a grandchild of Tywin who both looked like perfect Lannister ideal and would also eventually sit on the Iron Throne, the first in what Tywin hoped would be a long, glorious, specifically (if not explicitly) Lannister-blooded royal dynasty. Inasmuch as Tywin could not simply abandon Jaime as the Perfect Lannister Heir (no matter how much Jaime “rebelled” by joining the Kingsguard), Tywin could not abandon Joffrey as the Perfect Royal Heir.

Which, certainly, is not to suggest Tywin was not going to terrorize (or try to terrorize) Joffrey into obedience to his, Tywin’s, will. Tywin could not have Joffrey idolizing Robert Baratheon and not his Lannister relations, after all, much less turning into a new Aerys. But I would bet this would have been a very private act of fear-inducement, while ostensibly holding out Joffrey as the supreme royal authority.

[lainelannister]

"Tywin could not have Joffrey idolizing Robert Baratheon and not his Lannister relations, after all"

What's so interesting about this, though, is how incredibly easily this part of Tywin's plan could have gone off the rails if Robert had bothered to pay even the SLIGHTEST bit of positive attention to Joffrey during his childhood. Based on what we know of Joffrey and Robert, Joff *very* much wanted his father's approval and respect, if not his affection. The only reason that Cersei was able to establish such a major foothold as Joff's primary parent (and Tywin was therefore able to wield enormous influence over Joffrey) is because Robert couldn't be bothered to give Joff the time of day. But if he had...

[lainelannister]

Definitely just posted a LONGGGGGGGG explanation of why Catelyn Stark isn't a horrible mother on the House of the Dragon subreddit.

Because a bunch of dummies were all "Catelyn is the worst mother because SHE WAS MEAN TO JON SNOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!111"

And that garbage can fuck ALL the way off.

(@starkfish, my dear, this Reddit ramble was very much done in your honor!)

[fukutomichi]

How many seasons is House of the Dragon even supposed to be??? They are just blasting through everything with this pace!?! 

[alicentflorent]

People hating on Alicent for believing and still loving her abusive, gaslighting, master manipulator of a father who’s love is conditional clearly don’t understand parental abuse and have no empathy for victims who still care about their abusers and it shows

[elliot-olivia]

[satyriconmp3-deactivated2023050]

a better question would be which is the worst vegetable. and the answer is peas everyone can go home now

[satyriconmp3-deactivated2023050]

cucumber haters in the tags going in the deepest pit of hell do you hear yourself.. pathetic

[dwellordream]

When Tyrion confronts Tywin with the crossbow he says he’ll be on his way if he answers a question and that “you owe me that much” to which Tywin replies “I owe you nothing” do you think this is how Tywin feels about all his children? Or just because of his horribly extreme ableism he believes because he let Tyrion live that he owe him nothing more?

Tywin certainly thinks he owes Jaime the title of his heir and that he owed Cersei the title of queen. Once his children either bluntly reject what he believes he owes them (Jaime), or in his view squander what he owed them (Cersei), he reacts abusively and spitefully.

[lainelannister]

This is an interesting perspective, but I can't say that I totally agree. I don't think that Tywin believes that he owes Cersei a crown or Jaime a lordship. I think that he believes that THEY owe HIM the fulfillment of his master plan for House Lannister. He wants to see his daughter as the queen and his son as the Lord of Casterly Rock, but those desires aren't for Cersei's and Jaime's sakes. They're for the sake of House Lannister (and, by extension, for Tywin's own sake, since improving the status of the Lannisters is his modus operandi).

[nbpsiioniic]

"you can't ship that, it'll never be canon!"

look, when I was your age, we shipped characters who never even met in canon. uphill. both ways. in the snow.

[endiness]

[weatherall]

#crying about eldest daughter connor again

[lainelannister]

I have such a stupid soft spot for characters who have flimsy senses of identity and who can easily fall into completely different people for a while. Jaime Lannister? Check. Sansa Stark? Check. Elliot Stabler? SUPER CHECK.

[catelyngrant]

Okay but feelings about this plot development aside, question for people who know SVU better than I do (aka most of you):

It’s fair to assume that this is the first woman Elliot’s slept with since Kathy died. Is it a fair assumption that this is the only other woman he’s ever slept with? I know he and Dani Beck had something while he was separated, but I’m not sure how much we know about how intimate they got, or if there were other women. It’s heavy enough if this is the first person since Kathy’s death, but there are a WHOLE lot more layers if this is potentially the only other woman he’s ever slept with. Like, that’s a lot.

THIS MAN IS NOT EMOTIONALLY EQUIPPED TO BE UNDERCOVER RN JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, how has Bell not pulled him yet???

[jacnaylor]

i think people are probably feeling a type of way about kathy being the one who wrote the letter, HOWEVER. imagine being kathy and you know. you just know what your husband felt for another woman and you finally have to talk to him about it. she has to help her husband talk to the woman he left, and she does it! but she has her own history with olivia. she knew she was supposed to grow and become a captain and a mother and she wanted that for her. she wanted her to be happy. she wanted her to have someone who was 'devoted and faithful' to her. i mean, you can't tell me that kathy didn't love olivia. she knows what it means to be with someone and question their devotion and she didn't want that for olivia. she has every right not to want to be involved with the woman she's pretty sure her husband had to leave the country to get over, but instead she writes her a beautiful letter wishing her love and happiness. and i think that's nice, and i think it shows how good kathy really was, and how her and olivia had their own experiences together irrespective of their relationships with elliot.

[sseureki]

Talked to Stabler lately?

[lainelannister]

also

i ship rollins x that fbi guy

more than i've ever shipped rollisi

i am just saying

[sseureki]

- I didn’t write the letter.  - What?  - I didn’t write the letter.