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The parables themselves can be found here:
Loki Ruins Everything (Voluspa, Rígsþula)
Let Baldr Be the Best (Baldrs Draumar)
What follows below is my general disclaimer about what they are and are not.

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Lokean Parables
The parables themselves can be found here:
Loki Ruins Everything (Voluspa, Rígsþula)
Let Baldr Be the Best (Baldrs Draumar)
What follows below is my general disclaimer about what they are and are not.
The biggest fault in playing magic the gathering online is not being able to physically strangle your opponents. When the fuck did everyone else get the fucking Turbo Steroid Decks starting every game with some fuckass zero cost card going "if you have seven cards in your hand rn you win immediately no matter what" that summons a 12/13 Fuckzilla with vigilance and deathtouch. Like oh wow wowwee congratulations fuck you. I wonder if your mother is self-aware enough to regret having children.
All I'm saying is that if your entire fucking deck consists of cards that are all just instants of "kill every creature that your opponent just fucking cast in their last turn uwu" and your entire game tactic all just boils down to preventing me from playing, I should be allowed a dialogue option of saying "Wow. You should kill yourself."
+1 to this.
Based on what I've seen from glancing at MtG in the last...couple of decades(?) I'd be disinclined to play anything more serious than a 'here's a bunch of starter packs of (pre-mirage) cards, snake draft a deck and have at it.'
(?) Sorry, I have a bad case of being old.
If your employers don't want you talking about your salary with your coworkers, it's because someone is being underpaid. Full stop. There is no innocent reason for not wanting employees to discuss their paychecks with each other.
Under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or the Act), employees have the right to communicate with their coworkers about their wages, as
Workers in the US have the legal right to discuss their wages with anyone. Employers who attempt to punish or discourage you from doing this are knowingly violating federal law and depending on you not knowing your rights to get away with it.
Having worked in places that span the whole range here, it is hard to emphasize how true this is.
I think it is batshit crazy that employers are allowed to have any pay system other than a chart in which it is objectively knowable what any given person (especially you) should be making.
But if management flips out at the mere prospect of people trying to figure out what their peers are being paid...it is a pretty reliable sign that bad shit is happening.
In my experience, that bad shit includes either payouts to people perceived as loyalists, or management finding ways to skim money off the top. Or both. It can be both.
i am asking this in good faith
If the Bosnian Genocide is has been ruled a genocide and the death count was 33,071 people, how is what is happening in Gaza not a genocide when the number has been surpassed
Because genocide is not about the number of people being killed. Genocide is a specific legal term, and it has to have two components: 1) obviously people have to be murdered -- but this must be done systemically, as a policy (either written or unwritten) of the belligerent party. AND 2) there has to be genocidal intention to murder said people. Genocidal intention means that Party A (Israel) murders Party B (Palestinians) specifically because those people belong to Party B (Palestinians). There is no evidence that Israel has a genocidal intention. In fact, the October 7th massacre was actually a genocidal act on behalf of Hamas - Hamas committed the genocidal action and has been committing genocidal actions for over 20 years, because they specifically want to murder Jews for being Jewish. They also meet the first criteria because this is a systemic policy that is present in the Hamas Charter.
This is very important to distinguish because whilst genocide is a war crime, not all war crimes are genocide. Israel has committed war crimes, including murdering civilians, and even intentionally allowing civilians to be killed (such as bombing a house with a Hamas member in it and killing his family members). But this is not sufficient to rise to the criteria of genocide. We could make the argument that there is ethnic cleansing, because the vast majority of the people being evacuated are of a single ethnicity, Palestinian. However, again, ethnic cleansing alone is not sufficient to rise to the definition of genocide.
Crucially, the ICJ has not ruled that there is a genocide ongoing. They have ruled prima facie that 1) South Africa has the right to accuse Israel of genocide, and 2) that the ICJ itself is fit to hear and rule on the accusation. They have also ordered Hamas to release the civilian hostages, so if Hamas is saying they want to abide by the ICJ, they have already disregarded the ICJ ruling.
Genocide is not based on vibes. It's not based on bad feelings. It's not based on videos and images of dead kids, or destroyed rubble. Genocide is a specific legal term that can only be applied to the above scenario, and it cheapens our language when we levy it in circumstances where it does not apply. It especially cheapens our language when we engage in Holocaust inversion by claiming Israel is doing to Palestine what Germany did to the Jews, which is categorically false.
Beyond this, it belittles the groups that are involved in this conflict, particularly Hamas, to treat them like they are innocent civilians when they are in fact a very well-outfitted military brigade and the official armed forces of the Gazan government with over 40,000 fighters strong, who repeatedly and loudly say "death to Israel, we want to annihilate Israel, we will commit October 7th again and again until Israel is destroyed." They are being funded by the IRGC, they are being used as a proxy for Iran, and innocent Palestinian civilians are suffering as a result. Hamas has openly said that the "blood of martyrs fuels our resistance," they have openly said they hope Palestinian civilians die in droves while they steal aid and resell it at absurd mark-ups, while they flee to Egypt and Qatar so that they don't have to get their hands dirty. They recruit and brainwash young children to fight their "holy war" to murder as many Jews as possible.
And in terms of the death toll, you have to understand that this war is being fought in an urban environment where the belligerents are embedded purposely in the civilian population, in tunnels all throughout the civilian infrastructure. Violating the Geneva Conventions by using hospitals and schools as military bases, refusing to wear uniforms, and intentionally shooting their own people and blaming Israel.
These people even play tapes pretending to be hostages shouting in Hebrew "don't shoot," which is one of the reasons why a hostage was accidentally killed by the IDF, which is then turned around to show how evil the IDF is without understanding the context that these events happen in. In normal urban warfare the ratio of civilian to combatant death is around 9:1. In Gaza, the ratio is, according to Hamas's own numbers, 4:1. Literally twice as low as the average. So, yeah. War crimes are happening. Yes. Absolutely. Genocide is not happening, at least, it's not happening to the Palestinians.
Let's break down why this is just stupid amounts of wrong
Right off the bat we have a misrepresentation of the definition of genocide. @weemietime focuses on minor technicalities while ignoring piles and piles of evidence of policies and actions by Israel that literally constitute as genocidal practices (targeting civilians and systemic displacement just as some examples). You're cherry picking definitions while numerous human rights organizations, international bodies, and scholars smarter than you have provided proof that Israel is committing a genocide. Stop ignoring real world indicators
Intent can be inferred from actions, policies, and outcomes. So don't dismiss the systemic nature of Israeli war crimes. The intent is 100% there.
Deflection is sad. Stop bringing up Hamas as an attempt to absolve Israel of its war crimes. This false equivalency is a distraction from the core accusation. You tried. Also don't even get me started on the absolute bad faith argument that Hamas uses human shields when we've literally seen Israel do that. Also saying that absolves Israel of carrying out the LARGE MAJORITY of civilian deaths.
Holocaust Comparison Strawman. Drawing parallels in systemic oppression isnt equivalence. Not even a smart argument. We aren't dumb.
The civilian-to-combatant death ratio is misleadingly cited to minimize civilian harm while justifying indiscriminate targeting in densely populated areas.
Also there are literally ongoing investigations by many international bodies including the ICC. Way to be loud and wrong. You decided to be stupid with your whole chest.
G-d's bravest racefaker coming in clutch with "stop bringing up Hamas's actions in the war they started"
Oh look Khamenei’s laziest Turkish sleeper agent finally got their “harras actual jews” paycheck from Iran again
I wanted to add that, when a genocide is about to happen, the perpetrators generally won't shut up about their plans to commit genocide. (I'm thinking specifically of Rwanda and how the radio station referred to "Tutsi cockroaches" in the months leading up to it.) Gotta beat the drum until the mob is good and ready.
Another thing worth pointing out:
"The vast majority of people being evacuated are a single ethnicity, Palestinian."
Nobody else is allowed to live in Gaza. All Israelis left in 2006.
If a war occurs in a place where there's only a single ethnicity, then only a single ethnicity is going to fall victim to the war. The argument that Palestinians are being targeted falls apart when you realize they're the only ones there. This is like France starting a war with Belgium and people wailing that in France, only French people are dying. Yes, of course it's only the French who are dying, that's who lives in France! Of course it's only Palestinians, they're the only ones who live in Gaza!
What is happening in Gaza is a humanitarian crisis. It is not a genocide, and what's more, it is far from the worst humanitarian crisis going on in the world today. There are literally people in Rwanda begging for a fraction of the attention Gaza is getting. There are more people starving to death in Sudan than live in all of Gaza and over a million of them are children. China is committing three separate genocides right now!
I assure you, the whole world knows about Gaza. Try turning some attention to the Fur, the Rohingya, the Ukrainians, the Uyghurs, the Tibetans, the Sudanese, the Roma. Most of Europe is engaged in a form of genocide, but you don't hear about it because there are no Jews who can be blamed for it.
@weemietime I have nothing to add to this, except a minor quibble that strengthens your argument.
I appreciate your willingness to cite the 'Gazan ministry of health' (or whichever affiliated NGO) statistics for the military:civilian casualty ratio.
My understanding from sources in the US military is that they think it is probably somewhere between 1:1 and 2:1. And they agreed with the assessment that one would normally expect something closer to a 9:1 civ:combatant ratio under the circumstances. (Fighting Hamas in Gaza being a textbook 'worst case' scenario)
Also, those sources are...impressed at the lengths the IDF has gone to to minimize civilian casualties. Maybe less so later in the conflict (longer tangent there about alternatives that were closed off by the UN, etc), but especially during the initial invasion, there was a strong impression that the IDF's willingness to (for example) broadcast troop movements and airstrike targets ahead of time in order to provide time for civilians to evacuate.... it was not something any other military would have done under the circumstances.
Thoughts About Magic
I’ve been playing around with magic (as in the metaphysical kind, not stage magic) for the past while, and even though I’m not very good at it yet, I think I have a way of explaining how it works that’ll make sense within a Western paradigm of reality. I’m not sure if the model I have is accurate in any way, but I think it’s a start.
First, I need to address the way we depict magic in movies and TV, because these depictions threw me off the scent for what magic is for a long time. Magic isn’t a “stuff” people have inside of them that they wield, nor is it a “stuff” that exists in the universe that we can harness and command. It also isn’t something people are born with, nor is it something that only the “chose few” have. And most importantly, it isn’t some kind of power we force out of our hands or out of a wand through pure conviction or sheer force of will.
Instead, magic is an art. It’s like painting or woodworking or knitting, where it’s the act of manipulating a specific medium to achieve an intended outcome.
The medium magic uses is the imagination. Children know exactly what this is, whereas most (Western) adults have completely forgotten what it is, confusing it with “creativity” or “innovativeness” or “our powers of visualization” or even just “fantasizing” when it’s none of these things. The imagination is the field we do all of our thinking through, whether that thinking is based in visuals, language, feelings, or otherwise. Someone does magic by moving their mind through this field like they’d move their body through physical space.
This isn’t going to make sense unless you try it, so let me give an example using a therapy technique: Let’s say you’re stuck worrying about something. The way you can diminish this worry is to imagine or pantomime sticking the thing you’re worried about in a bottle and putting that bottle away somewhere (make sure you’re bottling the subject-matter worrying you, not the emotion you feel because of it). By doing this action, you move your mind through an arc of events that tells your body “the situation has changed, and here’s how,” which causes the body to adapt accordingly.
We don’t call these kinds of therapy techniques “magic” because magic is about manipulating the universe, not just ourselves. Psychology only goes so far with this because it follows a Western approach to cognition, which assumes our minds are housed in our brains and therefore can’t/don’t extend beyond them.
But the truth is that we actually have no idea where our minds live. We have no clue if they’re produced by our biology, or if our biology is just a filter for our minds in some way. Some cultures assume the mind lives outside the body the same way Western society assumes it lives inside of it, and base their concept of reality around that.
In my personal experience, magic will always be incomprehensible and mysterious UNLESS you understand your mind has no borders and expands into the universe all around you. Once you understand yourself this way, then it’s possible to experience a reality where magic is as real as any other art.
Whenever we look at magic being performed, we see rituals, chants, drumming, and the use of candles, crystals, and other ingredients. Logically and visually these activities make no sense. But that’s because they’re just facilitating the actual manipulation taking place on the plane of the imagination, which we can’t see with our eyes. It’s like watching someone code a program when we a) can’t see the display, and b) aren’t aware that the display even exists.
Magic is very hard to describe from the doer’s perspective. I need to get better at it before I attempt to explain.
Some Final Thoughts
In case it hasn’t become obvious already, magic isn’t capable of breaking the laws of physics. Like technology, it involves intelligently using the mechanics of the universe to achieve a result normally not found in nature. The only reason why magic looks miraculous is because we can’t understand how it works just by watching someone do it, nor can we replicate the results by simply imitating the motions that person made with their body. It’s like how we can watch Bob Ross paint, and even mimic what Bob Ross does, and still not understand how he Did That™.
I also want to talk about the role “belief” plays in magic. Believing in magic can make it easier for someone to accept it as part of reality, but it’s not what makes magic powerful. Powerful magic is like powerful art; it comes with time, practice, discipline, and the development of skills. I know this isn’t as enchanting or inspiring as the idea of magic (or, frankly, art) being some kind of inborn ability someone’s blessed with, but it does means anyone in the world can learn it.
One last thing: If at some point mainstream Western society does recognize this as an artform, we probably won’t call it “magic.” “Magic” has become synonymous with the fantasy genre, and anything we once called “magic”—such as chemistry (as alchemy) and mathematics—we now consider sciences. Chances are, what I’m describing will likely become part of psychology. It’s all just a rose by another name.
I know folks have been sharing this link on other posts, but &udm=14 works well:
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Maureen Galindo is running as a Democrat to represent Texas' 35th Congressional District. Controversy-tarred congressional candidate Maureen
“She’ll turn Karnes ICE Detention Center into a prison for American Zionists and former ICE officers for human trafficking,” Galindo wrote in an Instagram post over the weekend, referring to herself in the third person. “It will also be a castration processing center for pedophiles, which will probably be most of the Zionists.”
On the one hand, depressing that she has non-0 support and literally any endorsements.
But also, based on funding sources (Lead Left), she is probably part of MAGA's 5th column.
Amazing how the difference between having fancy culinary little treats and eating unhinged goblin bullshit is just having nice ingredients at hand. Like ooh look at me, I'm making myself porridge sweetened with brown sugar and raisins, with a dash of cinnamon and bit of vanilla in there, because I happened to have those around and was craving something sweet.
In different pantry circumstances, I'd be eating jam straight out of the jar with a spoon.
Question:
Smoked kippers, celery, red onion, mayonnaise, dill, caraway, black pepper.
Fancy culinary treat, or goblin bullshit? Asking for a friend.
i was wondering what type of relationship should be built with loki and what do i need and what he is willing to do, all that stuff. and when i asked directly i usually got not so clear answer. and today i asked again and i got cards that meant some kind of working relationships (like colleagues?)
and then i asked more questions and i figured out he wants me to do science and research to honor him... and he has enough witches he needs me as a scientist... and he answered "yes" when i asked if he wanted me to educate people about him...
what do i do now i am just a student...
It constantly blows me away how so many indigenous groups are like, "This animal/tree/mountain/etc is not only sacred to us but is also so important to us personally that we consider it part of our family and any harm that comes to it feels like our grandparent or sibling being hurt," and then people go out of their way to deliberately cause harm to those things. I know, I know, it's because of racism and colonization and selfishness but I always try to see the best in people and being reminded how little our cultures and communities are valued always really fucking hurts.
100% agree.
I also want to add (for the USAmericans) that Mt. Rushmore is very much an example of 'Oh, that place is sacred to you? Fuck you, we're gonna carve our leaders' faces in the stone there, so it'll be a monument to our vanity. Forever.'
When they're not celebrating the mass rapes and brutal murders that Hamas committed on October 7th, many Strasserites like to deny that the entire thing even happened. Or, if it did, it did so in such a wildly different manner as to be functionally a different event, with different perpetrators, victims, timetables, and - presumably - different accounts uploading the livestreams.
Considering just how ridiculously well documented October 7th was, I would genuinely, truly, be interested in a comparison between the evidence for the Simchat Torah pogrom vs, like, the existence of Alexander of Macedon. Or the entire Umayyad Caliphate. Or Lichtenstein. How does the evidence in favor of Lichtensten's existence match up here? If there is more evidence in favor of the existence of Lichtenstein, then by how much?
We know more about any singular 24 hour period during WWII than we know about the entire Roman empire. Using the standard of evidence that (at least according to these people) the Simchat Torah pogrom is insufficiently evidenced, can we prove that Karl Marx was a real person who ever actually existed, and not some kind of mythological figure without historical basis?
These aren't rhetorical questions; I do not know the answers.
So this is very specifically expressing a understandable frustration about the way certain people talk about October 7th specifically, and I don’t want to detract from that or derail, but I can’t help but feel viscerally reminded of this incredible piece of reporting on January 6th capitol insurrection from the New York Times:
A six-month Times investigation has synchronized and mapped out thousands of videos and police radio communications from the Jan. 6 Capitol
I remember watching it and feeling this weird chill down to my bones – not only because the events in question were horrifying, but because… well, I mean, it felt like a sea-change. I had never seen any event this well documented before. I remember thinking that probably no event ever had been. It was so clear – so unambiguous. You could see every part of it, from every angle. It was like I was there. It was like we were all there. No one could possibly deny something like this, I thought. The fraud will catch up eventually, I’m sure, and people will one day have to worry about governments faking even something like this, but for right now, for this window in time? This was undeniable. You couldn’t fake this, and no one could watch this and think that you could.
…And then people did anyway.
NYT put this out and people just… ignored it. Forgot about it. Called it “fake news”. It barely came up during Biden’s debate, and Trump’s incoherent fumbling around it was somehow less of a headline than “Biden is old”
I think that watching the way that, to most people, something like this meant nothing was the first time I really and truly understood the meaning of “post-truth”
Like. Yeah. There’s probably more evidence for the Simchat Torah pogrom than there is for the historical existence of Karl Marx. There’s probably more evidence of the January 6th insurrection than there is evidence of the Battle of Fort Sumter. What the fuck does that mean? What does that mean, for any of us? What does it mean to live in a world where things are more documented than ever before, and where AI generally still isn’t good enough to fake it without being caught, and even still, people just don’t care?!
I don’t know, but it scares the shit out of me
Without disagreeing with anything that's been said, I might add an explanation, or a rant, or both.
Most humans don't live in factual, empirical reality. Interacting with reality hurts fragile human brains, so most people choose not to try.
Instead, they live in make-believe bullshit story world that they build for themselves. I think of it as 'narrative reality' but there's probably a real term. My interpretation of the evidence is that most humans carry around a story about the world and everything gets fitted neatly into that story. If it doesn't fit, it either gets changed or ignored.
For Maga Natcons (aka 'Fascists'), a key part of that story is that 'real america' is being corrupted by liberal-queer-globalist-subversives. In that story, Jan 6 was about real americans fighting for freedom against oppression (1). Jesus is more real than the reality of Jan 6 to the average Maga Natcon because their story includes Maga Jesus as a major character but facts about Jan 6 are inconsistent with their fantasy world.
For Faux-Marxist Hamasniks, a key part of that story is that Israel is an illegitimate entity that drinks the blood of innocents (2) and that any measures are justified to destroy it. Maybe they would say 'dismantle,' but AFAIK they still mean 'kill all the Jews who live there' regardless of what term they use. They are going to ignore any and all evidence about what actually happened on Oct 7, because in their heads Palestinians are like cute innocent Ewoks fighting the Empire, and Ewoks obviously couldn't have raped and murdered civilians.
You can't change their minds with facts or rational arguments, because their worldview isn't beholden to facts or rational argument. My understanding is that the best course of action is to gradually work them around to a less shitty story of reality, like deprogramming a cult member. I don't think that's an easy or quick process though. More likely, you're looking at promulgating a more appealing story and hoping that it gains traction with humans who are still forming their narrative realities.
(1) I read their wretched social media posts and I still can't tell you what, exactly, it is they want to be free from. Having to use the singular 'they'? Getting healthcare that isn't controlled by their boss? Hearing people speak Spanish in public? Having to admit that the Confederacy was profoundly evil?
(2) Intentional blood libel reference. Not 'I am endorsing blood libel', but 'blood libel is an integral part of leftist Judenhasser ideology'.
Has anybody some recommendations on which Edda to buy?
I just can’t find one that looks somewhat good and is not written as if the stories of the gods are just what marvel portrays them as.
I would definitely go with the Poetic Edda over the Prose Edda, it's older and (slightly) less...filtered...through Christianity.
I usually rec Edward Pettit's version (lots of notes about translation choices, context, etc, etc).
You can buy it a lot of places, and also get it free. This is one place to read it.
So I’m reading Loki and Sygin: Lessons of chaos, laughter, and loyalty from the Norse gods by Lea Svendsen
And I found a passage that I really liked and want to share:
Many thanks!
I had seen that book and not bought it because...reasons (I am never sure how useful I will find other understandings of Loki).
That is very consistent with my read of the stories though. I will have to have a look at the rest of her book.
Anyway, Fenrir is great but too many people are villainizing him just because they were told to by the eddas and then straight up never did any further digging.
He's a deity you can go to who will understand your feelings of betrayal and deep rage and won't shame you for them or tell you to "just think positive and forgive". Who tf wouldn't want that?
Also, they tend to villainize him because he is justifiably angry at being betrayed and having his freedom stolen from him.
And if you're villainizing someone for that...
Well.....
So...I know I plug @Skaldish sometimes, but have you read:
Loki and his family play an important role in Norse Mythology. They also play important roles in our everyday lives.
I think you might like it.
I was thinking about controversial it is, even in pagan settings, to worship tricksters like Loki and Sutekh, and I think that I described it pretty well with
"Tricksters are inherently transgressive figures who literally embody what it's like to live in a socially unacceptable or taboo way, which is why members of marginalized communities flock to them while more privileged people find them distasteful. They are the personifications of chaos and social unrest, which includes how much strife surrounds people who are deemed socially unacceptable; they are literally the gods of minorities and people who suffer under bigoted unjust systems.
When tricksters do something bad in a myth, marginalized groups see a complex rebellious figure with their own motives while privileged people see a bad person doing bad things. And when tricksters are punished, privileged people just see a bad guy getting their comeuppence while marginalized groups see the harsh realities of living as a socially unacceptable person.
It's no wonder then that queer people, the mentally ill and other minorities have flocked to Loki's side, since he embodies the realities of their lives, even when others can't understand it."
I couldn't have said it better.
you should actually question people if they tell you that they're part of a long, ancient, unbroken tradition of a practice that has most likely died out or evolved into something new. you should especially question this if their teachings insert new age practices and terminology. you should question this even more if they insist that they can initiate you into this ancient lineage, just pay them xyz amount of money.
of course, there are traditions that have persevered despite christianization and colonialism. but you shouldn't trust everybody on the internet who appeals to the idea that old = better as a way to assert their authority.
so, you guys know about those people that say that loki is the satan of norse paganism?
thats half-true. but not in the way you think. walk with me
we think this statement is wrong because we have been taught that satan= evil, so this statement must mean that loki=evil, right?
makes sense, and thats what people usually mean by that.
BUT the reason i think this statement is actually true is because satan doesn't have anything to do with whatever the fuck the church has been teaching about them.
think of satanists. the real satanists, not the one the church warned you about that kill goats and shit. (that pretty much do not exist, by the way.)
satanists do NOT worship satan. satanists take satan as a symbol for things such as progress, change, non conformity, queerness, kindess, ecc. satanists believe the body is to be respected, therefore consent is essential. while christianity (ahem, the church, not christianity) teaches you that anything that happens is "satan's fault!!!" war? the devil!!!! illness? the devil!!! poverty? the devil!!! satanists believe that if something bad happens, its only because of the choices one has taken. its about taking accountability.
rings a bell????
that's right, loki! patron of change, chaos, and outcasts.
what does woshipping loki involve? being kind to anyone to everyone, especially those who are left behind, and learning to accept and embrace change.
and what does loki do the most? they will help you, yes, but most of all, they will teach you lessons, one of these being about taking accountability (speaking from personal experience, plus ive read lots about others having that same experience.)
in conclusion, i do believe that loki could somehow be ""compared"" to satan, the REAL satan, because of how alike what they "preach" (sorry if im not making sense, english isnt my first language so sometimes i cant think of a proper word to use for a certain context, lol.)
okay, i promise im done with the yap of the day,. i had this really weird train of thought during class today, and i wanted to throw this out here to see what others thought!!!
ok bai !!
An interesting thing, that you may not know, but which meshes with your view on this: (and my apologies if this is all old news to you)
The original Satan, as depicted in the Torah, is not a divine evil adversary. Satan is more like a role. Like, the Satan is the angel in charge of...well...being the devil's advocate in a lot of ways. The ultimate role of the Satan is more to test people, and to cause them to grow by overcoming challenges. It serves Loki energy, as the youths say.
'The Devil' as a Christian construct is a really interesting look behind the curtain at how the Christian mythos came to be. Although Christian myth claims that it comes from (and is the truer version) of Judaism, that's not really true in the way that Christians tell it.
Christianity is actually a crazy mishmash of Jewish texts and some fringe heresies that have been kludged together with a bunch of other traditions from that region (1). IIRC, 'the Devil' as a divine enemy and a scourge of humanity comes from one of the dualist mythos (Zoroastrian or Manichean probably)(2). Although a lot of the dualist stories didn't make it directly into the Bible, it could be argued that the Christian view of reality is closer to those than it is to Judaism. One of those ways is that Christianity has trouble accepting the possibility of morally nuanced figures.
tl;dr
Yes. The Satan is a role in Jewish stories that is not dissimilar to the role that Loki plays in old Scandinavian ones. You are not wrong. So say thousands of years of religious scholarship.
(1) It's like if someone got kicked out of their synagogue for being a crackpot, and then tried to make a personal cult religion based on half remembered bits of Torah, second-hand retellings of ancient Greek myths, and parts of Persian mystery cults that they thought sounded cool. Then it gets grafted onto the cultic infrastructure of the Roman state religions and goes through a bunch more retconning so it can be used as a tool to enforce conformity and obedience in a dying empire. Crazy stuff. But...don't tell Christians that. It tends to piss them off.
(2) The book of Enoch is kind of a cool artifact here. It reads like a weird blend of the story of Prometheus and Persian dualist cosmology, but then gets spliced into the Christian old testament to explain the flood.