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hi!! i'm a newer kagurabachi reader and I've been SO curious about the honorifics that are used in the original, as the official english translation has removed them/uses things like "sir". I'm mainly curious about what Shiba calls Chihiro, but if you already have a post explaining this, i'd loveeee to know what everyone uses as well <3

Hello and welcome to Kagurabachi! Thank you for reading my nonsense!

I haven't made a post about honorifics so I'll just jot the essentials about Shiba and the older generation down here.

Chapter 60

Shiba refers to Chihiro as "Chihiro-kun", which is normal for a friend of the family that's older than the person he's talking to. He probably uses Chihiro's first name to 1) differentiate him from his father and 2) because he can as an older adult who's known him since birth. He also calls Char "Char-chan" and Hakuri "Hakuri-kun", following Chihiro's example of going straight for first names but keeping the expected honorific. He's a bit more relaxed with the younger generation, it seems.

You see, dear void, an amusing yet somewhat frustrating thing about the older generation of guys (Shiba, Azami, and Kunishige in particular) is how they're subtly distanced from each other. They refer to each other by last name only.

Dropping honorifics entirely shows that they consider each other to be good friends, don't get me wrong. Otherwise Shiba would be calling Kunishige "Rokuhira-san" or "Rokuhira-kun" instead of just "Rokuhira", for example. But since they are Manly Men who don't want to be too soft or vulnerable, they never use each other's given names (Togo, Soushiro, Kunishige). Chiaki was the only one who did among their group.

Speaking of Chiaki, she called Azami "Sou-chan"! It's a cute nickname that only she could reasonably get away with using for him. That's what he gets for being a few years younger than the rest of them.

Likewise, Shiba and Kunishige have called Chiaki by her given name instead of her last name (Soga). She was very dear to all of them and being a girl, it was "safe" to show that by using her first name. Manly Men don't have to keep up as many barriers when it's a close female friend.

Other than that, Shiba's general way of referring to people is in line with what would be expected from a guy who regularly flouts rules but still takes his job seriously. He drops honorifics with Samura, Mashiro, and others he sees as peers while still calling his boss Hasumi-san. It's definitely part of the "cool" vibe that most of the Kagurabachi characters bring to the series since he's not the only one to do that by far. Social rules are bent in fiction all the time for flavour, after all.

Hope this is what you were looking for, Anon!

#taking notes #kagurabachi

hestzhyen

Kagurabachi Characters and Personal Pronouns v2

Updated for the Seitei War Arc (current as of chapter 125). Half-assedly alphabetical within each category.

Uchi: Very casual and familiar, used by kids and young women (especially in Kansai).

Neither Shiyumi nor Hiyuki speak in Kansai dialect, so it's purely for the casual flavour.

Shiyumi using uchi around Hagiwara speaks to how he runs his squad with less formality than one would expect (she and the others would normally use watashi or boku in his presence).

Shiyumi in general speaks with an extremely cutesy, feminine, and casual style; "Valley Girl" would be a rough English equivalent.

Hiyuki using uchi even with Kasen and Ichiki shows how much she doesn't give a fuck about propriety; perhaps how much confidence she has in herself and her status in the Kamunabi too.

Her speaking style is all around rough and somewhat rude at a minimum to pretty much everyone; she reins it in with Kasen and the higher-ups but not by much.

Atashi: Casual and cute, feminine. No one's used it so far. Not even Kiri. :c

Watashi: Slightly formal, everyone. The default pronoun if you're not sure what to use.

While Kiri uses watashi, her speech is very unique. She has a habit of saying incredibly unhinged things in a cute way. Sorta like "I wanna kill my grandfather 'cause he's a total misogynistic pig! That's why I tell him to live along life until then, tee hee~".

She's also disrespectful to her elders and superiors by refusing to use honorifics with them (much to Natsuki's annoyance).

It's also kinda rude to give a guy a cutesy nickname as soon as you meet them like she did with Hakuri (calling him "Hakurin") (though he doesn't seem to mind).

Char's normally childlike speech is peppered with random advanced words and odd turns of phrase due her time as an experimental subject for Sojo.

Boku: Polite-ish, younger men.

Toto is probably a ボクっ娘 [bokukko, "boku girl"], an anime/manga archetype of a quirky and/or tomboyish girl that uses "boku" to accentuate how off-beat she is.

Some girls, AFAB folks, and non-binary people use boku to reject traditional femininity without coming across as "manly".

Azami using boku while he's pushing 40 gives a slightly refined, humble, and overall softer impression to his character (to accentuate the gap when starts punching people to death, of course).

Ore: Very casual, masculine.

Most of the male cast use this in Kagurabachi (and other anime/manga) but it's usually reserved for speaking among close friends and family IRL.

Despite the common pronoun, there's a wide variety of speech styles represented to help differentiate the characters from one another.

Shiba and Mashiro use Kansai dialect.

Uruha switches among old-timey Samurai-esque phrasings, standard-to-casual Japanese depending on context, and "stannish" (excited fan slang) speech.

Outside of a few notable exceptions, Hakuri speaks almost exclusively in casual Zoomer slang. He minds using honorifcs though.

Chihiro's speech is generally to-the-point standard Japanese unless he's annoyed with an opponent like Hiruhiko or Sojo- then it gets a bit rough.

He's also all or nothing with the honorifics: characters either get them as expected or not at all (communicates a lot of closeness with Char and Hakuri to forego them, is slightly derogatory towards his enemies).

Kazane uses condescending Zoomer slang to be rude to Chihiro but is polite with Azami.

Even the ninjas have differences amongst themselves. Ro is relaxed and a bit informal, Moku is casual and friendly, and Sumi is plain and no-nonsense.

Kunishige's speech is casual and rough even when talking to Urita; he speaks to him like a peer, not his elder in any sense. Hence why Urita frequently remarks that Kunishige is cocky.

Other/Special:

Ariu hasn't used a singular pronoun for himself yet. He's only used 我々[wareware], an extremely masculine and formal way of saying "we". In modern times, 我々usually doesn't refer to a group of people but rather a larger organisation that they belong to. (For example, both Ichiki and Kasen use 我々when speaking about themselves and other members of the Kamunabi, but when they are only speaking about themselves, they use watashi.)

Mashiro uses ore for the most part, but he switches to boku when he internally compares himself to Hiroto, Shiba, and Yoshinojo. It shows he thinks there's a significant skill/experience gap between him and the other three.

Unknown: Character hasn't used one yet and we have a non-zero chance of seeing them do so in future chapters. Don't @ me about Makoto being there hope springs eternal.

Probably will keep updating this at an irregular interval as we meet more characters and see how they talk.

#YAY thank you for this #kagurabachi

holloweiss

WHY IS HE ALWAYS SO UNCHARACTERISTICALLY GENTLE WITH HIM

#a habit he had to learn intentionally when he held chihiro as a baby the first time?? and he can't stop now....#kagurabachi

bells-lettres

local matchmaker losing it over yet another unrealistic demand from the clientele 🤣🤣

Translation by me. :))

elodieunderglass

“Even a slightly increased possibility of summoning rain is still an ability to summon rain” is such a good point

#screaming #video

orangecoffee1010

regto point of view aawwww

#LITTLE #gachiakuta

dogpuppy

mandywondering

I mean, in some very interesting Technically Correct ways, they didn't actually die? Now, they're very much no longer alive. But the forces involved are such that they didn't get any of the usual cellular processes of death, they simply went from biology to physics in less time than it takes a signal to travel down your optic nerve.

dietspam16

if you go from biology to physics without dying first you don’t go to heaven the uber driver went over this already

themysteriousmurasamecastle

it must be so freeing to be as stupid as a ceo. not a single thought echoing through that hollowed out skull. you get paid more money in 20 minutes than a handful of small countries make in a year combined to say the biggest number you can think of and if your company doesn’t hit that number you get to fire all of them

themysteriousmurasamecastle

we want to entertain one billion people a day and to achieve that goal we’re going to fire every single game developer we’ve ever hired 😍😍😍

am1vf

I like the wording of PCGamer

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/xboxs-ceo-wants-its-games-to-cater-to-more-than-a-billion-people-each-day-or-24-times-more-than-the-peak-population-of-steam-which-is-delusional/

reunmint

my eeveelution as wild cat series !!

vaporeon - tiger

jolteon - cheetah

flareon - lion

espeon - eurasian lynx

umbreon - melanated jaguar (black panther)

leafeon - clouded leopard

glaceon - snow leopard

sylveon - serval

eevee - house cat (maine coon)

#pokemon #eeveelutions

ryanthel0ser

My vocabulary will be forever altered now

#deltarune #rouxls kaard

alexmey-does-an-arts

MY STUPID FUCKING CAT WONT STOP TRYING TO TOUCH THE BEEHIVE

james-hf

Meeting the Light Furies from the concept with the original Light Fury from the cartoon

#httyd #light fury

toasthaste

according to An Immense World, apparently giant squid eyes are, like, UNREASONABLY large, even for something their size living at those depths. the next largest eyes on earth, blue whale eyes, are less than half the size, and swordfish, who live at similar depths as giant squid and have the largest eyes of any fish, have eyes that could fit inside a giant squid's pupil.

eyes hit serious diminishing returns wrt resource costs vs vision quality as they get bigger, so the question became: what the FUCK do giant (and colossal) squid need to see so badly that they couldn't see with swordfish-sized eyes that's justifying that massive energy cost? that nothing else in the deep ocean needs to see so fucking badly??

turns out the one strength eyes that big really have over much smaller eyes is: seeing large glowing objects in water deeper than 500 meters from an appreciable distance.

sperm whales are the primary predator of giant squid. sperm whales don't glow. BUT! water that deep is full of bioluminescent creatures-- these creatures light up when bumped into. something a sperm whale's size is continuously bumping into those critters, it's just surrounded by a glowing field all the time when it's swimming at those depths, visible from a distance-- if you have the right eyes-- as a massive glowing shape. so basically the only reason to have eyes the size of soccer balls is if you live in the deep ocean and your life depends on having a heads up when a hungry sperm whale lurking around

and also I gotta say, the imagery... the huge lurking threat betrayed only by the ambiguous glowing shape of its movements through the water, is really evocative, if spooky deep-sea games aren't already using that to make things extremely ominous then they should really start

dragon-in-a-fez

actually I think you should be normal about ordinary citizens of authoritarian countries and yes that applies even to that country you're thinking of right now

dragon-in-a-fez

"but they support [dictator] and [violent action]!" okay is it possible that a combination of propaganda, election rigging, and authoritarian crackdowns on dissent could lead a population to look like it supports something most people would find distasteful under more reasonable circumstances