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[lesfem-phasma]

Sorry guys, but I gotta get.

everything’s been wearing me down for a while now, but its just all gotten really bad it feels like in these last few weeks. all the lesbophobia both within the LGBT and within feminist movements and outside them, all the racism and ableism and other bullshit that goes unchecked, I just can’t deal with it anymore. not right now.

I need to take some time and recharge, so I’m gonna leave tumblr for a little bit. I dunno how long I’ll be gone, but it’ll be a while. you can’t recover from this kind of thing in just a few days or weeks.

I know a lot of you will be disappointed, but I need to think of myself and my emotional wellbeing.

so I’ll see ya’ll whenever I get back. keep fighting the good fight while I’m gone<3

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

For anyone who wants an update - DePaul issued a shitty apology but refused to cancel/adapt their event in any way whatsoever. Please, please keep sharing this, keep emailing the university, keep posting on the event page. Again: If any of you are in the Chicago area, I will be attending the discussion tomorrow and would be thrilled to meet up with others who are outraged.

[lesbian-lizards]

The Facebook post looks like it’s been removed? Is the event still happening?

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Wow. It was taken down minutes ago, in that case, because I was JUST reading the new posts that were added while I was asleep. Nothing else has been posted anywhere in its stead, at this time. I will absolutely let you know what the deal with that is. Nothing inciting violence was posted, so, if they aren’t canceling, they’re silencing us to cover their asses.

[hmsindecision]

According to @radicallyhaley the event is still on, it’s just off social media. She spoke to someone at the school who said it was because of “backlash”–aka they couldn’t handle angry lesbians. Solidarity to anyone who goes. I really wish I could make it.

[radicallyhaley]

yes, the event is still on. i spoke to the receptionist at the LGBTQIA desk in our student center.

[lesbian-lizards]

Amazing that they would keep it going after so many lesbians (and non-lesbians) have voiced their concerns. I read some of the Facebook comments and most of them were polite and brought up good points about the why this seems lesbophobic, and why “lesbian” is more than just a label and basically everything that’s already been said on tumblr. Perhaps they didn’t appreciate non-students commenting but as someone who was already college-aged before I was even comfortable referring to myself as a lesbian this whole thing is just upsetting to hear about.

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Well, in their original email, they concluded with, “Feel free to share with others and spread the word to anyone who might be interested in the conversation!” Even in their “apology,” they claimed that they hoped those with concerns would come to participate in the dialogue. (I would love to quote that directly instead of simply paraphrasing, but, as we know, DePaul deleted the post - apology and all.)

If the university wants its discourse to exist solely in an echo chamber, they shouldn’t adopt the pretense of concern for the thoughts of the community that exist outside of the DePaul “bubble.”

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Update: The university posted this notice - “Today’s event was planned after we were approached by two lesbian faculty members to host an intergenerational dialogue on our campus about lesbian visibility. The title was intended to be provocative, not to hurt feelings but to grab attention. We realize that our title has had a negative impact on people within our community and we regret the title choice. This event has come out of a discussion around the following observations: The disappearance of lesbian bars and spaces; disappearance of lesbian publications; disappearance and renaming of lesbian organizations; and a lack of lesbian focused sessions at the Creating Change conference. We are planning to show a clip from the documentary “The Last Lesbian Bar” that asks about the loss of specifically marked lesbian spaces. We hope you will join us in this discussion today, 3pm, Student Center 325.”

This description of the event does not align, in any way whatsoever, with the original expressed intent to dissect the “identity label” lesbian and, once again, disregards our concern over the proposed CONTENT as no more than concern over the TITLE. My hope is that this friction was the result of poor advertising and a complete lack of tact, but, of course, I will be in attendance at 3:00 and will share my experiences.

[heirloomparasite]

That discussion actually sounds pretty worthwhile–but I’m leery of chalking this up to a big misunderstanding when the title of the discussion set off so many alarm bells and they haven’t directly expressed “What you think is not what we meant.”

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

The discussion was hugely disappointing. The two women who led the discussion were lesbians, one of whom related more closely to the queer community and one of whom related more closely to the lesbian community - particularly Latina lesbians. But after all the reassurances that the title was only intended to be provocative and ironic, whether or not lesbians are “relevant” was… nonetheless, absolutely what we discussed.

It was sad. The general consensus of the room seemed to be that lesbian spaces are disappearing because the lesbian community is - allegedly - white, “cis,” middle class, feminine (?), and transphobic and that lesbian spaces are being replaced by “more inclusive queer spaces.” The idea that young people feel the word “lesbian” is “too harsh” as compared to words like “gay” and “queer” was expressed. The mediators of the discussion lightly pushed back against these thoughts (one mentioned that the face of the queer movement is ALSO white and middle class), but the younger attendees who spoke, as a whole, did not have any issue promoting lesbophobic ideas in the name of “queer” solidarity.

I spoke whenever I could and asked people to consider that queer is still a slur - that I am from Georgia and have friends who want no part in having that label applied to them. I asked attendees to consider whether or not it’s REALLY a coincidence that we are so ready vilify a word that is entirely female-centric and implies the possibility for women to live their lives entirely separate from men. I clarified that there is a place for inclusive language, but that there is also a place for SPECIFIC language - and we are erasing the nuanced, specific experiences of lesbians by suggesting we can do away with the word “lesbian.”

I left pretty disheartened, honestly. The story is being covered by The Windy City Times. I was also contacted by my school’s paper. I’ll link you guys to both articles, once they’re posted.

[lesbian-lizards]

Well that sounds awful but thanks for keeping us posted.

So when everything was said and done all they did was create a venue to discuss why lesbians spaces should be erased and why lesbians are bad. They singled us out over any other group and it ended up exactly as every lesbian who has commented about it thought it would be.

I officially feel disconnected from the “queer” community. What I used to believe was just a generation gap I now know isn’t the case, lesbians simply aren’t welcome in our own community anymore.

[radicallyhaley]

i do think that the women who organized this group were postulating the question as a hyperbole - joking amongst themselves that they were now “old lesbians” and felt “obsolete.” i don’t think they expected many of the younger people in this discussion to agree, in a round about way, that lesbianism is irrelevant in a “queer community.” the reason why myself and so many of us had such a reaction to the title is because we KNEW peers in our generation felt this way. i think that these women saw the erosion of lesbian spaces as a generational aspect and not a conscious erasure through queer politics.

one of the organizers was an older latina lesbian who looked physically pained when a younger “queer femme” spoke about how she considered the word “lesbian” to be connected to whiteness, middle classness and transphobia. the elder lesbian (lourdes) spoke how finding writings by lesbian women of color like cherrie moraga and audre lorde helped her come to terms with her lesbianism.

her words seemed to fall on deaf ears and it was overall very sad.

[lesbian-lizards]

I didn’t mean to imply that the lesbians who organized the event did it to purposely hurt other lesbians. I think you might be right that their original idea with the name could have been meant as hyperbole. Something that, if applied to gay men, for instance, would have sounded so absurd that everyone would have gotten the “joke”. But as you say, the problem was we recognized that this is literally how many modern queer theorists actually see lesbians.

So yeah, the whole thing just sounds awkward and depressing…

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

For anyone who wants an update - DePaul issued a shitty apology but refused to cancel/adapt their event in any way whatsoever. Please, please keep sharing this, keep emailing the university, keep posting on the event page. Again: If any of you are in the Chicago area, I will be attending the discussion tomorrow and would be thrilled to meet up with others who are outraged.

[lesbian-lizards]

The Facebook post looks like it’s been removed? Is the event still happening?

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Wow. It was taken down minutes ago, in that case, because I was JUST reading the new posts that were added while I was asleep. Nothing else has been posted anywhere in its stead, at this time. I will absolutely let you know what the deal with that is. Nothing inciting violence was posted, so, if they aren’t canceling, they’re silencing us to cover their asses.

[hmsindecision]

According to @radicallyhaley the event is still on, it’s just off social media. She spoke to someone at the school who said it was because of “backlash”–aka they couldn’t handle angry lesbians. Solidarity to anyone who goes. I really wish I could make it.

[radicallyhaley]

yes, the event is still on. i spoke to the receptionist at the LGBTQIA desk in our student center.

[lesbian-lizards]

Amazing that they would keep it going after so many lesbians (and non-lesbians) have voiced their concerns. I read some of the Facebook comments and most of them were polite and brought up good points about the why this seems lesbophobic, and why “lesbian” is more than just a label and basically everything that’s already been said on tumblr. Perhaps they didn’t appreciate non-students commenting but as someone who was already college-aged before I was even comfortable referring to myself as a lesbian this whole thing is just upsetting to hear about.

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Well, in their original email, they concluded with, “Feel free to share with others and spread the word to anyone who might be interested in the conversation!” Even in their “apology,” they claimed that they hoped those with concerns would come to participate in the dialogue. (I would love to quote that directly instead of simply paraphrasing, but, as we know, DePaul deleted the post - apology and all.)

If the university wants its discourse to exist solely in an echo chamber, they shouldn’t adopt the pretense of concern for the thoughts of the community that exist outside of the DePaul “bubble.”

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

Update: The university posted this notice - “Today’s event was planned after we were approached by two lesbian faculty members to host an intergenerational dialogue on our campus about lesbian visibility. The title was intended to be provocative, not to hurt feelings but to grab attention. We realize that our title has had a negative impact on people within our community and we regret the title choice. This event has come out of a discussion around the following observations: The disappearance of lesbian bars and spaces; disappearance of lesbian publications; disappearance and renaming of lesbian organizations; and a lack of lesbian focused sessions at the Creating Change conference. We are planning to show a clip from the documentary “The Last Lesbian Bar” that asks about the loss of specifically marked lesbian spaces. We hope you will join us in this discussion today, 3pm, Student Center 325.”

This description of the event does not align, in any way whatsoever, with the original expressed intent to dissect the “identity label” lesbian and, once again, disregards our concern over the proposed CONTENT as no more than concern over the TITLE. My hope is that this friction was the result of poor advertising and a complete lack of tact, but, of course, I will be in attendance at 3:00 and will share my experiences.

[heirloomparasite]

That discussion actually sounds pretty worthwhile–but I’m leery of chalking this up to a big misunderstanding when the title of the discussion set off so many alarm bells and they haven’t directly expressed “What you think is not what we meant.”

[lusterdustt-blog-deactivated202]

The discussion was hugely disappointing. The two women who led the discussion were lesbians, one of whom related more closely to the queer community and one of whom related more closely to the lesbian community - particularly Latina lesbians. But after all the reassurances that the title was only intended to be provocative and ironic, whether or not lesbians are “relevant” was… nonetheless, absolutely what we discussed.

It was sad. The general consensus of the room seemed to be that lesbian spaces are disappearing because the lesbian community is - allegedly - white, “cis,” middle class, feminine (?), and transphobic and that lesbian spaces are being replaced by “more inclusive queer spaces.” The idea that young people feel the word “lesbian” is “too harsh” as compared to words like “gay” and “queer” was expressed. The mediators of the discussion lightly pushed back against these thoughts (one mentioned that the face of the queer movement is ALSO white and middle class), but the younger attendees who spoke, as a whole, did not have any issue promoting lesbophobic ideas in the name of “queer” solidarity.

I spoke whenever I could and asked people to consider that queer is still a slur - that I am from Georgia and have friends who want no part in having that label applied to them. I asked attendees to consider whether or not it’s REALLY a coincidence that we are so ready vilify a word that is entirely female-centric and implies the possibility for women to live their lives entirely separate from men. I clarified that there is a place for inclusive language, but that there is also a place for SPECIFIC language - and we are erasing the nuanced, specific experiences of lesbians by suggesting we can do away with the word “lesbian.”

I left pretty disheartened, honestly. The story is being covered by The Windy City Times. I was also contacted by my school’s paper. I’ll link you guys to both articles, once they’re posted.

[lesbian-lizards]

Well that sounds awful but thanks for keeping us posted.

So when everything was said and done all they did was create a venue to discuss why lesbians spaces should be erased and why lesbians are bad. They singled us out over any other group and it ended up exactly as every lesbian who has commented about it thought it would be.

I officially feel disconnected from the “queer” community. What I used to believe was just a generation gap I now know isn’t the case, lesbians simply aren’t welcome in our own community anymore.

[lesfem-phasma]

are there even words left?

I certainly don’t have any.

only overwhelming hurt, and anger.

[mindblowingscience]

Its pretty incredible how accurate the science of astrophysics has gotten. New Horizons actually arrived 72 seconds early after travelling for almost 10 years straight to its destination.

[haithinkimfunnny]

Hello! The person who calculated the arrival time of New Horizons was Yanping Guo, mission design leader and one of the women who made up 25% of the New Horizons team. She configured the entire mission trajectory, including Jupiter and Pluto flybys. 

Women’s contribution to the sciences has a long history of being erased, so let’s not forget the women who made New Horizons possible! 

Kneeling from left to right: Amy Shira Teitel, Cindy Conrad, Sarah Hamilton, Allisa Earle, Leslie Young, Melissa Jones, Katie Bechtold, Becca Sepan, Kelsi Singer, Amanda Zangari, Coralie Jackman, Helen Hart. Standing, from left to right: Fran Bagenal, Ann Harch, Jillian Redfern, Tiffany Finley, Heather Elliot, Nicole Martin, Yanping Guo, Cathy Olkin, Valerie Mallder, Rayna Tedford, Silvia Protopapa, Martha Kusterer, Kim Ennico, Ann Verbiscer, Bonnie Buratti, Sarah Bucior, Veronica Bray, Emma Birath, Carly Howett, Alice Bowman. Not pictured: Priya Dharmavaram, Sarah Flanigan, Debi Rose, Sheila Zurvalec, Adriana Ocampo, Jo-Anne Kierzkowski.

(Credit: Michael Soluri for image)

source

[goodbyesocialconstructs]

Globalisation has further tilted the imbalance of power between the male punter with his wallet and the woman who rents her vagina for a fee. In France, 85 per cent of prostitutes are immigrants, many without papers, vulnerable to exploitation. In Germany, with its legal super-brothels, it is about two thirds. If demand is not tackled, more will come. Is that something any Western nation should be proud of: an underclass of poor women from Thai villages and Ukrainian towns, imported to service First World penises?

Janice Turner [x]

Aaaaand this is why the sex industry is not only a feminist issue, but a racial and anti-imperialist issue as well. Notably, those screaming the loudest for across the board legalization are often Western whites.

Prostitution and other forms of sex work have always, and especially now, been a tool of the oppressor. Not just the male, but also the imperialist. I am horrified that so many women are going through this right now (more so, that so many people, “feminists” even, are quick to justify it and dismiss their stories in favor of the john), but it hits even closer to home because so many of them are my Eastern European sisters. When will it stop?

(via goodbyesocialconstructs)

[lesbiain-deactivated20170309]

Also have yall considered that when a young girl says she wants to be a boy she isn’t necessarily trans but may just be frustrated and upset with the misogyny that comes with being female and is bitter about the privileges afforded to men and simply doesn’t have the complex language yet to really voice that?

[shamelesslyunladylike]

Was exactly my case. I spent my whole childhood wanting to be a boy. Turns out I just wanted to be a person.

[rad-usagi]

I noticed that people like to call wlw (but most often, solely lesbians) “perverted” or “genital fetishizers” because they express positivity over their sexuality and relationships. Apparently expressing that they love women, and all parts of female bodies that gets demonized by males is perverted. Women can be called “fishy”, “dirty”, “bleeders”, “wh*res”, and other horrible names, and have our vaginas be called “fish”, “c*mbuckets*, “sperm dumpsters”, “money sucking f*ck holes” and other horrible pornified names by males. Men can make entire blogs about wanting to violate women in different ways, with degrading terms for them and their body parts, and fully detail about how they treat their partners (or fantasy partner). Males can insult us with slurs for our genitals, heterosexual women can talk on end about how much they love penises (somewhat), men who like men can talk about how much they love penises, all of that is fine and goes unchecked and escapes all criticism of being perverted or genital fetishizers. Men can make jokes about how gross women’s bodies are, and that vaginas look/smell/taste “gross”, “nasty”, etc while trying to get their crusty penises into women one way or another, without any criticism. But sexual female-body-positivity posts by wlw are perverted? How fucking dare anyone say that.

[saitoblush]

speaking of maths. back in elementary school, I was one of the gifted math kids in my class. I was easily top 10 in the city in maths. I got super competitive in it, but around grade 5 (yeah asians are super competitive academically, it’s a long tradition ok), I overheard SO MANY people saying behind and to my face that it’s natural that boys will get better than me at math. Like, I was fucking 10 and people were already reminding me that I was gonna be worse than boys. I was still one of the maths kids, but every time there’s a hard problem that we raced to solve, the thought of the boys being better than me is always at the back of my mind, and the teacher was so obviously favoring the boys. I didn’t know back then that those things took up my processing capacity so I wasn’t able to solve as many problems as the boys. Then I just gradually gave up on maths as I grew up. I still enjoyed it, got into specialized math classes in the top school, but I stopped giving my all to it. 

[tragic-unpaired-electron]

this was so real! and the boys, they saw this too. They’d start believing it, no matter how much better you were at math than them, no matter how many times you proved them wrong. I used to be into the competitions too, a lot of girls did, but as the years went by we all just kinda…dropped out of it. couldn’t take the abuse and second-guessing anymore

[saitoblush]

This is so sad that its so universal :( one time I proved all the boys wrong and they straight up ignored me and wouldnt admit their defeat… i cried so hard that day, I didnt understand why they wouldnt view me as their equal.

[tragic-unpaired-electron]

They really, really, dont see us as equals and it’s sad cuz it doesnt start out that way. But by fifth grade the boys who had even the slightest talent in math and science had it engrained by parents/teachers/media that they were better than the best of us. When they saw evidence that wasnt true, like you proving them wrong, theyd get so horrifyingly nasty to try and cover it up. Like, no wonder there’s so few girls in STEM by high school, we’ve all been bullied out

[rat-cyng]

let’s be honest though, millennial hate is totally a thing rich folks started because they’re pissed that we have really unpredictable consumer habits and it isn’t as easy to get us to buy into stuff, so they’re mad we aren’t just money giving/traditional economy supporting machines like they expected us to be

like look at how much millennial hate articles are things like “millennials aren’t eating cereal and it’s hurting the cereal industry” or “millennials aren’t buying houses and that’s bad” or “millennials #1 utmost priority isn’t trying to make as much money as possible” and rich folks are mad about it, so just posturing our unpredictability/nontraditional values as “laziness” gets everyone else on board the hate train in some weird attempt to collectively subdue us

[lesfem-phasma]

we also aren’t buying cars as much as passed generations, preferring to carpool or use public transport, because we like using our phones while we go, which you can’t do safely while driving, and its good for the environment.

and the old and the rich can’t stand that, for all kinds of reasons, all of which are complete bullshit excuses for being mad at us for not being just like them.

[decayinginfrontofme-blog]

how many more times am i gonna see leftist men complaining about women “stealing” and “appropriating” class struggle & leftist language to talk about unpaid labor? Also how many more “feminist” men are going to keep pretending that women’s labor, paid and unpaid, isn’t real labor, and is not being exploited? pretty much all leftist men want to continue exploiting women and women’s labor in one way or another.

[0-0110100-deactivated20160829]

the worst part is always always always going to be the dfab nonbinary “ex-lesbians”, now id’ing as pansexual, apologizing for their past bigotry and penis-repulsion all the time, claiming that no dfab person is innately only attracted to dfab people. i can’t believe i’ve seen this happen more than once. i get less and less surprised each time. 

[nullendvoid-deactivated20210922]

[devourmysoul-blog]

I hate the term “women of color” Since fucking when is my peach skin not a color? Why must I be excluded from a group of women?

[azuila]

[chillinintheheat]

your ~peach skin~ wasn’t a color when this was happening

but now you want to be included

no

[spacejesus2001]

Throwing shade like it’s sunny

[homicidejanere676556-deactivate]

Ooop.

[receivingendofit]

Exactly!!!!

[lesfem-phasma]

how much y’ll wanna bet op isn’t just white, but also straight and able bodied/neurotypical and gets just as upset about being “excluded” from those groups too?

[mcdyke-deactivated20171112]

being a female means needing to see 10 different doctors to get a proper diagnosis because they always think you’re exaggerating and/or lying

[sapphosdottir]

being female means having to beg your family to take you to a doctor because they’re all convinced it’s nothing, that you just need to relax. being female means constantly being on high alert when a male nurse walks by because you remember your mom was abused by one. being female means having to endure your mental disorders on your own while your male family member gets treatment and medication every month. being female means having to cover up your pain and act it al is well because everyone still expects you to do everything. being female means having to watch your mom suffer through breast cancer because her male doctor said it was “nothing, just stress.” being female means being constantly unsure if something is actually  wrong because of the combination of poor female reproductive health education along with being socialized from a young age that you mustn’t say a word or you’ll be “complaining.” sometimes it feels like being female is wanting to live in a world that wants you to die. 

[chocolatemajorchord]

honestly I try not to be so sad about it bc I get that were doing what we can to survive under patriarchy but I grieve so much we’re losing all our lesbian sisters to disidentification, to the effects of queer theory, to transition and it hurts so much to recognize a woman like me and know that most likely she doesn’t see herself that way, and it hurts too to see those who have tried hard to hold on to womanhood let go bc the world sucks too much , and it’s just so much loss

[jakeyllenhaal]

are jewish people a minority? I mean it's not the 1940's anymore does anybody actually hate jews?

anti-semitism in europe 1, 2, 3

anti-semitism in france; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

anti-semitism in greece; 1, 2, 3, 4

anti-semitism in the united kingdom; 1, 2, 

anti-semitism in australia

anti-semitism in the united states

just a whole long list of anti-semitism globally

neo nazis

“one fourth of the world harbors anti-semitic sentiment”

the commonly used phrase “you dont look jewish” isnt a compliment

anti-semitic jewish stereotypes 1, 2

this exists

anti-semitism towards american jews because of the israel/gaza conflict(although many jews have nothing to do with it) and some more 

lack of representation of american jews

small list of anti-semitic famous people

offensive “jew” costume worn by a certain celebrity as a “disguise”

mel gibson 

one of the many incidents in europe (france, greece) where jewish cemeteries/memorials where vandalized

along with people of other religions (including islam, sikh, hindu, others.) jewish people dont get privileges that christian people have, meaning we, dont get guaranteed time off work/school for holidays, dont have freedom to worship without fear of judgement, wont have our faith accepted at your workplace/school, cant have a job without it being associated with your faith (“they’re a [lawyer/accountant/banker/jeweler]? well obviously, they’re jewish”), have expectations of what your career should be (“they’re jewish and they’re only working as [minimum wage job]? they should aim higher”), being referred to as “jewish” friend, the list goes on.

some extra facts just to further educate yourself on jewish people/the jewish religion:

besides israel and the united states, no other country has a jewish population more than 1%

the total amount of jewish people in the world is less than .2%

its believed if the holocaust were to never have happened, the total population currently, instead of 13 million, would be more than twice that at 32 million

the difference between zionist and jewish (israel vs jews) 1

dont bring anti-semitism into gaza/israel arguments

basic jewish beliefs

jewish holidays

jesus was jewish!

why jewish people dont believe in jesus

religious discrimination, know your rights

i could go on, but im sure you get it by now. feel free to add to this post.

[atheologist]

But can we also talk about how “being a minority” isn’t defined by how much people hate a specific group? We make up 0.2% of the world’s population and outside of Israel, the United States has the largest number (and percentage) of Jewish people and we’re STILL under 2% of the population. Antisemitism is definitely still a huge problem pretty much worldwide, but even if it wasn’t, Jews are a minority because we’re a minority. Period.

[animatedamerican]

“it’s not the 1940s anymore”

And in the 1940s it wasn’t the 1890s anymore, and in the 1890s it wasn’t the 1810s anymore, and in the 1810s it wasn’t the 1790s anymore, or the 1740s or the 1650s or the 1490s or the 1280s or the 500s or the frakking 3rd century BCE.

Antisemitism did not end with the Nazis, and it sure as hell didn’t begin with them either.

[248limbs]

let’s talk about how Oscar Wilde was literally arrested for being homosexual. they took his name off his plays, locked him away for two years with no writing supplies and no one to talk to, all because he had sex with other men. “"allo”“ gay people have never experienced privilege for being sexually attracted to people of the same gender and they never will. it’s frankly offensive to say otherwise.

[project-radfem-deactivated20160]

wtf is “allo”?

[lesbian-lizards]

Opposite of ace.

[lesfem-phasma]

and he’s only one of millions of examples. we’ve been locked away, attempted to be fixed through rape, and straight up murdered for our sexuality.

which incidentally, is also why its so damn offensive when radfems think its ok to say lesbianism is a choice that all women should make in the name of feminism, and won’t be needed in a post-patriarchal world.

we’ve literally been raped and murdered and tortured for centuries for being same-sex attracted and we sure as fuck didn’t “choose” that or are privileged for it.

all the homophobes can fuck right off istg