There is another issue within this fandom that made itself known after the concerning events of yesterday (regarding the drawing of Lucien). I am seeing posts that say something along the lines of "what was said about Elain in the past doesn't matter because she's fictional and she can't be hurt but the drawing of Lucien was wrong because of the historical context" but only half that statement is true. The other half of that statement suggests that "violent rhetoric is only problematic when it targets one group of people". Violent rhetoric is wrong regardless of who it targets - men, women, POC, LGBQT. If it's violent it's a problem. Elain is fictional and Elain herself can't be hurt but that doesn't mean women have not been subject to violence throughout history because they are women. Just like Lucien is fictional and can't be hurt but POC have been subject to violence throughout history. Just like boys can be subject to violence and abuse (look at the history of the church and scouting programs), just like those who are LGBQT have been subject to violence and abuse. You don't have to like any character in this series. You can go on and on about how you think they're selfish, how you think they're lazy, how they're not a good romantic fit for person A or B, but what we should never be doing is condoning or excusing the idea that a character deserves to be raped or killed because she's worthless. That Lucien or any other male character should be killed or hanged because you hate him. If someone sees something like that and the next words out of their mouth is "well they're fictional so it doesn't matter what we say" then you're part of the problem. Violence is violence - violence against women, violence against LGBQT, violence against POC - these are all things recorded throughout history and if you're ever in a position where you're excusing violence for any reason then you're no better than the people who joked about the art that was made yesterday.
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