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Do you have any headcanons about young Sally? Because like I think shes such an opportunity like we know just enough from Percy to have an idea but we can also diverge almsot as much as we Ehat because it’s entirely possible she acts in a specific way eith Percy abd her friends. tbh I just imagine her as one of the messiest people alive vut I imagine every character lile thay so idk
i think she was very messy yes 🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️ i think a lot of people make remarks about how percy is definitely poseidon's son and acts just like him meanwhile sally is very put together and they don't understand it and blah blah blah. whole time poseidon is over there going???? she's so much worse than me??? what are you guys on about??
that tiktok audio. quit being so nice and show them how crazy you are. yeah that's poseidon to sally every time and she plays soooo innocent but only he remembers sally's wild child days and no one believes him when he brings it up. "yeah right poseidon. sally jackson definitelyyyy did coke and hooked up with you in a public park. i definitely believe it buddy........." and poseidon is bashing his head into a wall because he definitely used godly manipulation to keep sally out of jail and off a list for public indecency so he has no evidence to back him up and prove that he got swept up into her storm of chaos just like she got swept up into his.
her pr team did amazing with her but trust her wild child days were enough to draw in the chaotic god of the oceans. he liked her chaos. just believe me on this. she keeps it nice and pretty now that she's older with a new husband but that messy girl still slips out here and there and paul is always befuddled by it. poseidon gets hype about it "YOU SEE? YOU SEE? YOU SEE????" and sally already back to her put together behavior so everyone thinks poseidon is genuinely losing it
Percy x Artemis is so fucking funny to me.
miss immortal misandrist who turns men into animals for so much as looking at her the wrong way let’s Poseidon’s Child fuck her.
(Also just goes to show what kind of person Percy is, that he could at least have a CHANCE with Artemis)
HAHA honestly i think that's part of the reason i was so hooked because like. artemis has the reputation of being a manhater/misandrist, whether or not thats true, so i was kinda expecting that with pjo but then the first scene with artemis and percy is him making her laugh and it was such a small and cute and unexpected moment between them that i went. oh! oh that's good! that's real good...... and i've been stuck here ever since
plus as a woman-ish. i do like the feminist porn i can make of percy. like yeah. you are different from the rest. tell me more. tell me about how you despise purity culture and respect women 😍😍
plus x2 i mean he's grunge/alt so he's definitely like canonically involved in those progressive spheres so. it's not unfounded. and a defining moment for his character (that pops up continuously throughout the series) is what sally says in tlt of "if my life is going to mean anything, i have to live it myself." and percy continuously proves that he is nothing like the heroes of old where he lets sally save herself and he offers the nemean lions coat to zoe and he stays with princess ariadne (rachel) rather than abandoning her when everything is said and done. like his whole character throughout the series (ignoring everything from hoo and beyond) is proving that he's different and better and a new age hero and nothing like the heroes like heracles and theseus who used zoe and ariadne and then prompty abandoned them for their glory and ego. percy genuinely cares. so. again. not unfounded lol
Another two not really pertemis but if you squint you can see it moments are,
A, Percy having his breath taken away by her beauty, and yeah, okay, that's standard and stuff, doesn't mean much…
except then
Aphrodite rolled her eyes. ‘Oh, Artemis. Please. Talk about a hopeless case. I mean, if they were going to kidnap a goddess, she should be breathtakingly beautiful, don’t you think? I pity the poor dears who have to imprison Artemis. Bo-ring!’
idk its just so funny to me that Artemis is literally breathtakingly beautiful to Percy. it doesn't mean anything but its funny that aphrodite chose the one description which is objectively wrong and then B, during TLH apparently Artemis was sneaking info out of Olympus to the Hunt in order to help them find Percy, despite it being *explicitly* banned by Zeus. To be clear I don't think it's the only thing she talked to the Hunt for, but she did explicitly try to help find Percy, and that's literally like 3 days after Percy goes missing. She canonically offers more help than either Poseidon or Hermes, which is wild.
(also i dont think this needs to be tagged as nsft??)
happy pride month
this one kinda hurts when i see it every pride month. im glad to see an art piece of mine still circulating, and with nearly 100,000 notes too! it just hurts that im separated from it. everyone in the notes thinks im gone. im still here, but my potential community and connection is lost because im forgotten in place of the art. yeah, my deactivated profile does add to the profoundness of what i was saying, but i am still removed.
that weird era pjo fandom went through where fanon Percy was this happy-go-lucky-human-golden-retriever-frat-bro becomes even weirder when you realise Percy barely smiled or laughed over the course of five books
here's the count:
tlt:
smiling: 5 (1 uneasily, 1 under a spell, 1 during Cerebus face-off, 2 for Annabeth)
laughing: 3 (1 nervously, 1 making fun of Annabeth, 1 about Grover)
som:
smiling: 1 (grudging smile for Clarrise)
ttc:
laughing: 1 (the dam debacle)
botl:
smiling: 3 (1 with Calypso, 1 with Nico, 1 for Clarisse and Chris)
lauging: 1 (with Tyson)
tlo:
smiling: 5 (tried for a smile for Nico, 1 for Paul, 1 tried for a confident smile for Chiron, 1 at Hera sending cows at Annabeth, 1 at Bessie)
laughing: 2 (1 crazy laugh during a fight, 1 with Annabeth)
total smiles: 14
total laughs: 7
Gotta tell you guys something wild in the Chinese fan sphere
So some fanartist drew a “sexy” (read: booby) version of a (cartoon) character who is traditionally very non-sexualised. Fans of the character got mad about it because it’s kind of groundbreaking how that character is written and portrayed and this art totally ignores the entire point of the character. They demanded the art be deleted. In response to that other people said, well what the fanartist did may be distateful but they have every right to draw what they’re into. The two sides fight for days and each starts a harassment campaign and even report their “opponents’” accounts.
So far so typical. But things eventually come to a head and they decide that this will be settled by votes - not through a poll. Through donations to a children’s education charity via each side’s portal. Whoever can get the highest amount of donation wins.
And that is how this charity received over 1 million in donations in three days lol. Oh btw the “freedom of expression” side won by a landslide (960k to 40k)
From now on this is how all petty fandom disputes should be settled.
Mourning the potential of Percy Jackson being on filmed sitcom style with Percy breaking the fourth wall to talk to the audience and being set on the early 2000’s
Percy in the interview booth after letting Annabeth and Grover leave him at the top of the Arch: "Look, in retrospect, splitting up was obviously a bad idea. You guys at home are probably screaming at me. I know I am! But keep in mind, I was twelve. This was my first quest. I hadn't become genre-savvy yet. I didn't even know there was a genre to be savvy about!"
Grover in the interview booth: "Percy probably just said some shit about how he would never split up the group anymore. That's only half true; he'd still do it, but do it purposefully to draw the monsters away. Empathy link, bitch!"
I was feeling agitated and artblocked yesterday so I decided to give my brain a rest by watching TV and then the next thing I knew these were in front of me
Tfw you're reading a really good non-Percabeth fic but then you find out it isn't non-Percabeth because they want to explore Percy's dynamics with other characters, it's non-Percabeth because they hate Annabeth and fundamentally misunderstand Percy's character :(
Like, personally, I don't like Annabeth in Heroes of Olympus, but that's because she suffers especially hard in it characterization wise. And I understand if someone is thinking about her HoO portrayal and that's soured them on her PJO portrayal retroactively.
For instance, her messiness with Rachel is totally understandable in the context of BotL, but it feels a lot worse with the knowledge that even after getting together with Percy she still wants to 'keep him on his toes' with respect to even mentioning Rachel.
But that's HoO Annabeth, not PJO Annabeth. And PJO Annabeth is a pretty satisfying character.
But again, just do an amicable breakup. Maybe a bit of 'oh these are reasons we weren't compatible', but they can still absolutely be friends.
I've just come to the conclusion that "Wise Girl" was never really a thing.
And by that I mean during the first 5 books, it is used a total of FOUR TIMES.
Two are by Clarisse. Two are by Percy.
As opposed to Seaweed Brain which is used 25 times.
Twice by Thalia. The rest by Annabeth.
(Saying seaweed out loud that many times makes it no longer sound like a real word)
Wise Girl seems like such a big thing but it is only said FOUR times. Earth shattered at that moment.
Grover’s called "Goat Boy" more times than Annabeth is called Wise Girl. Said by both Annabeth and Tyson around an equal amount.
I only did this because I was trying to figure out a new nickname to give Percy, as "Seaweed Brain" doesn't really work in my fic, but I thought I'd check out "Wise Girl" too, and FOUR TIMES.
I think it's only said once in HOO.
I don’t know how to deal with this.
what
Let's address the elephant in the room: Pjo!Nico, SoN + MoA!Nico, HoH+BoO!Nico and ToA!Nico are essentially four different characters with the same name.
First off, Nico's character was centered primarily around platonic + familial love, identity in vastly different tempo-cultural environment from the one in which he was born, grief, abandonment and finding acceptance among others. A principle highlight of his character development was coming to terms with Bianca's death:
(Battle of the Labyrinth; in this pivotal scene Nico accepts Bianca must stay where she is: receipt 1)
However, moving on to Son of Neptune, we come across the first major (and highly unfavorable) aberration his character undergoes:
(Son of Neptune, receipt 2)
This was a major disservice to his character development. The Doylist explanation? He needed to be used as a plot device for Hazel's resurrection - which is bluntly put - unnecessary; the doors of death were open, she could've returned simply as an escaped soul.
Now in House of Hades, we run into yet another bad retcon - the crush on Percy and the botched recontextualization. Overlaying a deeply platonic relationship with a major one-sided crush requires a lot of craft, thought and subtlety - work Riordan failed to put in. We can clearly see how Nico's thoughts, attitude and behaviour towards Percy are very different after the retcon; this can be illustrated very easily by drawing a comparison:
(House of Hades; Nico is implied to be deeply bitter towards Percy: receipt 3)
(House of Hades; Percy tries to thank Nico with regards to Bob the Titan and his experience in Tartarus, only for Nico to snub him: receipt 4)
Vs
(Son of Neptune; like an "incantation": receipt 5)
(Son of Neptune: receipt 6)
(Mark of Athena; Nico and Percy's conversation: receipt 7)
In receipts (3 and 4) Nico is bitter towards Percy alongside the crush, demonstrated by the way he snubbed him.
Now this really does not track at all. Note the tone and choice of words in the receipts 5 and 6- Nico describes Percy as trustworthy, a threat only to his enemies. The word "incantation" - what sentiments does this highlight? Fascination, admiration, a certain degree of reverence even. Do you see hostility or bitterness anywhere?
Note the contrast against how he addresses him in receipt 7 as opposed to the unwarranted snub - he apologizes and explains his situation. In fact, he's in a far worse mental and physical state in Mark of Athena than in the House of Hades.
Another major ham-fisted retcon is the whole "you pushed everyone away" being attributed to his internalised homophobia, instead of being attributed to the horrifying trauma which would've made a lot more sense in terms of continuity because if the former were true, Nico would've pushed everyone since Son of Neptune, but we can see there isn't any good truth to the idea:
(Son of Neptune; Frank calls Nico, a gesture Nico reciprocates with a smile receipt 8).
(Son of Neptune: receipt 9)
(Son of Neptune: receipt 10)
We can infer from receipts 8 to 10 that Nico actually tries quite well to interact with people in a environment that was decidedly averse to his parentage.
It's actually simple. Riordan pulled a lot of post hoc changes to fit in the whole crush on Percy +internalized homophobia retcon, which damaged Nico's character significantly.
In ToA, most of his character is flattened to "Will Solace's emo bickering boyfriend", and he barely brings up his platonic relationships with Reyna and Hazel, which were very important to him throughout BoO.
percy and his bond with nature spirits :( percy having a soft spot for satyrs :( racing the dryads but the dryads take the time to reassure him and be kind to him when they beat him :( percy remembering seeing the nereids in the waves at montauk, always waving and smiling at him, and then the naiads do the same at camp :( percy being soul bonded to a satyr :( percy being there when pan passed and being given some of his essence :( percy being woken up by his pegasus to come out to sea and help free bessie :( that being a common occurrence because he’s on call with marine life to come out and help with any problems they have :( being being son of the ocean which makes him half nature itself :( PERCY AND HIS BOND WITH NATURE SPIRITS
When Amphitrite isn't happy to see Percy in tLO it isn't because her husband cheated, it's because she's already had all 49 of her sisters tell her what a sweetheart her stepson is and at this point she's had her fill of the name Percy Jackson for the decade.
Once when I was in undergrad, someone described something as “problematic” in class and our professor was like, “That’s cool, but ‘problematic’ doesn’t really mean anything. It means that the thing you’re describing has a problem, and in and of itself that’s not bad. Art, especially, should always have problems, or else it’s not interesting and not art, either. It sounds like you’re trying to say that this is bad, but you don’t want to say ‘bad.’ Is that right?”
So from then on whenever one of us called something problematic, he would make us talk it out until we could name the “bad” thing we were hinting at. In this particular class, 7/10 it was some type of oppression, and the remainder was like, “I’m uncomfortable because this is very new/confusing/pushing boundaries that made me feel safe.”
Once we stopped calling things “problematic” and stopping at that, class got way more interesting and... we all had to say, like, “that’s racist” or “that’s misogynistic” or “ew capitalism gross” out loud, which a lot of us had never done in a classroom before. Or we had to be like, “Uhhh... I’m not sure what’s so bad?” and confront our own beliefs and that was maybe even more useful.
Anyway. Whenever I see the word problematic, I can’t help but think of this professor being like, “Good starting point, now let’s get specific.” I think when we have to commit to saying “that’s ___” it requires a lot more careful thought about the truth and impact and complexities of whatever we’re claiming. Sometimes there really is some bullshit afoot, and also sometimes it’s art, and it should be full of problems, because that’s what art is.
PJO AU where Poseidon kept the oath so the prophecy man-child is a (former) halfblood of the eldest gods who reached sixteen (years of sobriety) against all odds.
oh that's so cursed i love it
hi black hoo fans 👋 what are your thoughts on black jason? in general, but also, how would you go about incorporating it into the story?
I really like black jason for the way that it could mean something about a black man existing in a military camp that clearly values him for his status and how useful he is as the perfect roman soldier and leader, rather than actually caring about him as a person (something that jason remarks on in the books himself and expresses discomfort with), and then proceed to tell a story about this black man regaining his autonomy and reshaping his identity with his own hands and being able to make his own choices about his life - which allows a thematic throughline to the real struggles and triumphs of diasporic black people !!!
so the idea of an all-american golden boy, an almost essentially white male figure embodying western partiarchal values, being black instead isn't unheard of in media and in real life (he's literally not american lol but jackson from the tv show "sex education" is both a good example of and subversion of the trope when appearing in a black character); the golden boy is usually an athlete, handsome, conventionally masculine, talented, comes from a "good" family, experiences favoritism, has strong principles, etc - all of which applies to white jason (the "good family" being jupiter, which awards him the highest possible status among the romans - and thus causes jason's supposed favoritism that he detests). but for a black "golden boy", there can and has been an added connotation of racial exploitation by dominant white power structures (I recall reading some really good papers in college about black football/basketball stars being exploited for the labor of their bodies on both the collegiate and professional level, though I can't remember the names of said papers. exploitation of black men in sports is a big and easily researchable topic tho)
I think this connotation of exploitation would matter because although hera seems to be soft for jason in some ways later on in the series, in tlh she uses really specific, unpleasant language about her ownership of him that evokes much more obviously violent imagery if she now becomes a powerful white woman claiming ownership over a black teenager, rather than a white one (I'd like to note that this is also almost exactly what hazel goes through with gaea, which I've posted about before here and here - though to my knowledge gaea lacks a specific race/human skintone whereas we do know that juno appeared explicitly as a white woman to frank's mom when he was a baby). this is even more uncomfortable if this renders beryl grace a black woman who had her son taken away by an omnipotent white power figure (juno/hera). jupiter "gives" him to juno as a "gift" and names jason after juno's favorite mortal, rather than beryl choosing his name - as if to completely strip jason of his black roots and forcibly assimilate him into her own culture (which is just. a thing that did actually happen to enslaved black people, and why most black americans have """white"""-sounding surnames to this day, including myself)
jason rejects these claims of ownership immediately, and a continuous theme of his character is extracting himself from the repressive confines of camp jupiter, a camp that canonically has ties to the american confederacy as well as a history of racist discrimination against frank's ancestor shen lun. camp jupiter highly values collective strength and militarism, and is in general very old conservative-coded (hence why a lot of people read octavian as a somewhat conservative figure). the existence of reyna as one of its leaders unfortunately doesn't negate this conservatism, but it's interesting how, in having his memories wiped, (black) jason can gain the opportunity to view the world through a completely new lens and attempt to rediscover himself, especially while surrounded by other people of color like piper and leo (idk, especially piper? black-indigenous solidarity runs deep in america, and there's a reason why 'bipoc' is its own category)
in this way I like how jason reevaluating his relationship to camp jupiter, how "roman" (= white/conservative) he actually is, and how much he needs to find himself again after everything he's been through could then be read as a black man freeing himself from an exploitative white power structure that doesn't really care about him. it's an imperfect metaphor that gets icky when taking into account how most of hoo's nonwhite cast starts roman and stays roman (reyna, frank, hazel) but I don't think the metaphor necessarily needs to be read in the exact same way for every character (i.e. frank's eventual praetorship over camp jupiter could be interpreted as a triumph over camp jupiter's past sinophobia)
naturally all of this necessitates some "rewriting" of jason, i.e. his awkward commentary about the confederacy to hazel in moa should absolutely become a moment of self-reflection and unpacking of conservatism/internalized racism that he may have been blind to before, rather than the weird "not all white people" moment that actually is (though I think this makes hazel's canon discomfort with him even more funny/layered/interesting. like she can smell the internalized bigotry he needs to unpack or something /lh). I also think that reconnecting with thalia would be infinitely more essential to emphasize and show in-text for clear reasons, and that's just not a thing hoo bothers with much (I think that the thalia-jason reunion scene occurring in leo's pov in tlh is like… top 10 worst writing moments in hoo. it so obviously should have occurred in jason's pov and I can't believe rick didn't do that. it's so bad). this is all a pretty big subject that ought to be handled with thought and research and delicacy but I just think there are plenty of reasons why jason specifically being black has potential to be very compelling!!!
Ooh, interesting. My problem with black Thalia was specifically because i was unsure about how well black Jason could work (since I view the all-American golden boy thing as being very white), but i see what's being cooked here.
Admittedly I think I wouldn't feel able to write something like that (and Rick certainly can't), but I'd be interested in reading a fic like this if someone else wrote it.
Okay so I've been thinking for a while about chastity oaths in PJO and yes, they're definitely a part of Greek mythology and it would be weird to, I dunno, have demigod children of Hestia running around with no explanation. But they also stem from patriarchal ideas about sex devaluing a woman, especially if she isn't married. And the thought has been bouncing around in my head but I finally got how I would approach it:
It's established that Camp Jupiter would hate Annabeth and other Athena kids because they don't like the brain-baby loophole. Have Percy hear this and be like "But I'm also the product of a broken chastity oath. My dad promised not to bone any mortals but here I am! Yeah, he's still allowed to have sex with his wife but shouldn't breaking his marriage vows mean I'm doubly bad? And what about Jason? Jupiter broke the same vows, but you guys love Jason, right? Why is Athena making a baby out of her thoughts an unforgivable violation of her oath to not have sex but Jupiter and Poseidon breaking an oath on the River Styx just gods being gods?"
I wanted to get a video of this ghost crab but every time I got close to their hole they scuttled back in, so I tried getting clever with it. I made a little sandcastle and shoved my phone into it, hit record, and walked away. Crab was VERY suspicious of this addition to their environment.
girl you erected a mysterious black monolith that contained all the knowledge your culture had ever collected were you hoping he'd develop rudimentary tool use