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TroS messed me up pretty bad. But it gave us an actual Gingerpilot interaction and that’s something I can thrive on^^
Hux finally found peace…no one can convince me that this doesn’t happen after the battle! ;_;
I will tag this for the @gingerpilotevents even though it doesn’t fit in the first theme. But I had to get this out of my system^^ For me, this short comic is about found family. And I think that is beautiful and fitting for the holiday event :)
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Telling it like it is. 😂
It would have been a thousand times better story to have Hux leave with Poe, Finn, Chewie, and Rey. He’s canonically a 9.5 out of 10 in intelligence. He had an extremely weak alibi given the situation. He should have known he would have been suspected as the spy and immediately killed or imprisoned, and his inclusion would have made the other stories more interesting.
He would have likely been able to give them more intelligence as well as tactical advice, and there would be tension from the trio wanting to hate him but realizing that he’s right. It’s both an opportunity for a few jokes, a mini redemption arc, and a realistic, easy set up for things to make a little bit more sense. But no. They just killed him for no reason.
There. I said it.
The humour potential alone would be worth it. Imagine all the emotional scenes but with Hux hovering awkwardly in the background.
Poe: What were you going to tell Rey when we thought we were going to die?
Finn: This still? Really?
Hux:…which one’s Rey again?
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Rey: I will find Palpatine and destroy him
Finn: Nooo Rey it’s not you.
Hux: This is the only sensible plan you people have suggested.
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Rey: I am descended from a monster…am I a monster?
Hux: Oh please. We all have monsters for family. You ain’t special.
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Also the best thing about Poe is how he is ride or die with anyone he meets within .05 seconds and he was the only one who wasn’t surprised that Hux was the mole. Hux would be his new BFF whether he liked it or not.
poe dameron lifetime canon timeline, apparently
2ABY: Poe born. Some months before Echo Base built, apparently? Baby Poe like, immediately left with Shara’s father to raise on a safehouse planet (location unknown in canon at this time) while Shara and Kes return to the Rebellion.
4ABY: Battle of Endor ends the Galactic Civil War. Kes returns to Poe before Shara does, and builds the Dameron-Bey family a house on Yavin IV. Shara returns to the family and brings one of two living Force Trees.
8ABY: Shara begins teaching Poe to fly in her old A-wing.
10ABY: Shara dies.
11ABY: Poe accidentally damages the Force Tree when he attaches podracing engines to the koyo harvester so that he can get his chores done in time to see a meteor shower. Spends 11ABY-12ABY single-handedly nursing the Force Tree back to health.
18ABY: Apparently runs away from home???? Ends up on Kijimi. Joins Zorii Bliss’ crew of spice smugglers/runners?????????
23ABY: Poe returns to Yavin IV. Ostensibly shortly thereafter enlists in the NRDF? Or is accepted to the NR Naval Academy? Anyway, lives on Mirrin Prime because of posting there, maybe.
SOMETIME BEFORE 26ABY: Poe is a Commander in the NRDF in charge of Rapier Squadron. This might be when he’s posted to Mirrin Prime? Maybe the earlier NRDF years were in Hosnian System?
23ABY-30ABY: Star Wars Allegiance: Poe Dameron #1 happens at some point in these seven years???? But wait. Hold on. It’s after the Resistance is begun, so it has to be after… ::math:: 26ABY. OK. So.
26ABY–30ABY: Star Wars Allegiance: Poe Dameron #1 happens.
30ABY–31ABY: Muran dies. Mission to Yissira Zyde. Defects from the NRDF and joins the Resistance. Forms Black Squadron.
31ABY–32ABY: Star Wars Resistance takes place. Marvel Star Wars: Poe Dameron takes place. They ostensibly have to be concurrent, since both end with Poe’s mission to Jakku?
32ABY: Star Wars: The Force Awakens takes place.
32ABY, but unspecified length of time later because the movie’s timeline makes no goddamn sense: Star Wars: The Last Jedi happens.
32ABY–33ABY: Star Wars: Spark of the Resistance and Star Wars: Resistance Reborn happen.
33ABY–34ABY: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker happens.
I like the concept that everyone’s life has some black areas but I see it as really out of character that Poe had been a smuggler. Why?? 🙄 Also, makes no sense. His job was exactly the opposite. I like to imagine that the Lucasfilm story group had something to say about this choice.
*Rise of Skywalker Spoilers*
LucasFilm: We’re going to kill Hux.
GingerPilot Fans: If you strike Hux down, we will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine...
Also, I've seen speculation that the reason Ben doesn't appear as a Force Ghost despite his body disappearing (clearly meaning he should be one) is because Lucasfilm literally didn't want to make that final statement that he was dead, in case they want to undo it later, and I'm just...
Schrödinger's Ben Solo, people. Is he alive (somehow), is he dead? We don't know. Neither does Lucasfilm.
My favorite part of the entire movie is how 100% done Hux is with his colleagues from the first moment we see him to the last.
god hux you stupid idiot space twink ill love you forever rip to the only interesting evil general in all of star wars goodnight my sweet prince
I saw it. I feel like I've transcended being upset. Honestly, the movie just felt so surreal and so ridiculous that I couldn't even take most of the serious stuff seriously.
And not taking it that seriously made me enjoy it. Still going to take a bit to come to the realization that this is all canon, now, lol. Hopefully, the novelization will help with that.
Still very much in the fandom, which is way better than I'd anticipated.
Just a few thoughts about General Armitage Hux while I’m figuring out how I’ll make a black armband to mourn him with in proper Victorian fashion.
Since I saw TLJ, I’ve been struck by two feelings, usually simultaneously. One is disgust at how much bigotry about masculinity and bodies feeds into the reasons why we’re supposed to hate this character. The other is delight at how people, in full awareness of that fact, have chosen to ignore it.
It’s delightful, but it’s not surprising. Hux is a kind of character Boomers can recognize from their childhoods. He is, to use the terminology of the era from which his characterization comes, a sissy. A pansy. The primary ST audience, though, is not only far less likely to hate him for being recognizably gay-coded but more likely to sympathize or identify with him. That’s because young people today are more likely to identify as LGBTQIA+ themselves or love people who do than any earlier generation.
Which brings me to a third feeling, which is annoyance that the creators don’t get, or pretend to not get, why anyone likes Hux. Really? You think the gayest audience Star Wars has ever had is sleeping on the gay-coding? You wrote him this way. You played him this way. You don’t get to do that and then pretend nothing matters except his Space Hitler-ness because you don’t like how the audience is responding to his other facets. You get to sit down and let people feel what they’re going to feel.
OT1H it gives me great joy imagining the creators of SW scratching their heads and wailing We’re throwing every trick in the book at this character to make sure the audience despise him. Who wouldn’t despise pretty, sneaky, un-manly gay space Hitler? WHY ARE OUR TROPES NOT WORKING?
OTOH, I’m also aware that fandom is more queer than the mainstream audience and I’m not positive that fandom’s love for Hux is shared by the rest of society. It’s possible that the tropes are working for them.
I hope Kelly Marie Tran had a chance to talk to some of the writers. She got it.
Also with the background creators gave him there are only 3 possible outcomes how Hux could turn, regardless of his gay coding or physical appearance - dead, insane and beyond useless, or the man we see in front of us. Yes, he’s evil. Yes, he’s succes motivated egoist. Yes, he’s a survivor which learned that the only safe place is at the top, surrounded by a protective circle of guns prepared to fire at his command. Of COURSE people love him! It’s a combination of pitty and self identification with him because of “if i had to go through what he did, i would do those things too” feelings.
Exactly! Though, I can’t blame DG too much. I feel like he’s kind of fed what to say by Disney/Abrams/Kennedy and doesn’t feel comfortable throwing that out the window like (the amazing) Oscar Isaac.
The thing is that the way Hux has been written in fanon and extended canon honestly makes me more likely to empathize with him than the other characters precisely because he ended up as messed up as he is. It’s good to have your characters suffer to gain pathos from the audience, but suffering needs to have consequences. I could have Character A go through what is objectively pure torture, but if they’re utterly unfazed by it and come out just as delightful, kind, etc. as they were before, the effect of suffering is gone. (Also, the fact that they are a simply delightful character already makes them harder to empathize with for me at least). Characters need to have breaking points. If they don’t, they are extremely hard to connect to. Hux has been pushed past his breaking point throughout his entire life. If he didn’t crack, it would be pretty amazing… but not half as tragic and emotional. Furthermore, the fact that he did crack makes the Imperial culture as a whole more threatening. There’s very little threat if the villainous organization is easy to break away from and hasn’t succeeded in corrupting anyone.
Not to mention the fact that the “fascist” reference makes absolutely no sense if you’ve ever studied history. It’s very clear that JJ Abrams didn’t do any research beyond the aesthetic (which was never unique to fascism but was used by real life fascists as a distraction from the truly horrible parts of their ideology). Yeah, I know it’s fiction, but the fact that the studio likes to boast as if they made a “deep historical reference” when their film is divorced from real politics is very irritating to me. (If you were to try to match the First Order with an actual historical movement, I can see an argument for some communist movements, but it’s still a rather weak argument with lots of holes. Still fewer holes than the fascism argument. The closest thing they have to rascism is purported prejudice against non-human aliens, but saying that Mr. Snoke is Supreme Leader, I find that point hard to defend.)
My people. ❤️
At the end of the day, I'm just glad to see that other people have watched and read and thought about the material, even if the general public hasn't. I've been preparing for this film for years, now, and now it's just about upon us. I've most had to come to terms with how the film will deal with Hux because, though I love all these characters, Hux is the one I feel for and relate to the most.
He's just so REAL. He's the guy who's smart and gives 100% to his work. And, his resentful co-workers stand around and just say he only got where he is through nepotism, having no idea what being his father's son actually put Armitage through.
He believes fully in the work he does and even personally checks in on training Stormtroopers (really, he goes and watches Finn's team in the training simulator when he presumably has far more important things to do. Maybe Phasma asked him there, who knows, but after Finn saved Slip, and they succeeded, Hux had nothing but good things to say about them, especially Finn. Phasma, notably, was the one who thought Finn was too compassionate.)
Hux is visibly exhausted when things get rough. He's afraid of forces beyond his comprehension because he doesn't know how to apply it to science. He's young, which the general public (and the ex-Imperial staff) seems to view as a flaw in and of itself. He's passionate and revolutionary (which to back up how the First Order, at least in extra materials does not resemble fascism, terrifies the ex-Imperial officers to the point they call him crazy. Hux is out for blood from a wealthy and corrupt government. His methods, of course, go too far, but he seems to have completely bought into the revolutionary ideas the First Order teaches its youth. Only the older officers think the goal is just "re-establish the Empire.")
Then, yes, there is the matter of him being coded as gay, which has historically been a choice for villains to make the audience see them as pathetic. Thin, little, petty Hux standing right there next to Kylo Ren, who is far larger and more masculine to look at. It almost seems like we're supposed to feel bad for Ren for having to deal with this insignificant little worm. Instead, a bunch of fans took a closer look at the scenes they had together and decided to latch onto them both. Because even if general audiences still buy into stereotypes and tropes, we don't. Instead of looking at a character who's coded gay and saying that means he's a villain, so we can stop looking because we know how this ends... We're willing to look at that character as we would any other character, giving him life in fandom, analyzing his hopes and dreams, and loving him, flaws and all.
Whether we hoped to see him escalate to main villain status, or just see him become a serious threat... Whether we hoped he did one day get his comeuppance or hoped he'd instead start the long path to redemption...
Hux is a brilliant character because he inspired us to look deeper, beyond just what the films say. He has me picking up every Star Wars book that comes out just so I can freak out completely when his name is mentioned once. I think many people in the creative process of Star Wars know that we love Hux and why. But, the more I see of these trailers and learn about the new film, the less it seems this trilogy is going to be about going beyond tropes and defying the expectations of general audiences.
Obviously, I haven't seen the film and am holding onto hope, but I'm realistic, too, and am in that place where I've thought about and pre-mourned my favorite characters (whether they lose their lives or just the potential of the lives they were set up to have.)
I will continue to hope that this film comes out and proves me so wrong I'm humiliated I ever said anything negative about it in the lead-up.
I’m spending this time before TROS mentally role-playing as Poe (which is already an awesome thing in itself) trying to save Hux from every possible scenario. Please, Hugs, stick with me!! ☠️😰😟🤠😽
Summaries for the next few episodes of Star Wars Resistance.
General Hux will make an appearance in the December 15 episode, just days prior to the release of The Rise of Skywalker.
I think the first order was inherently better than the empire. like who was in charge at the empire?? some old white guys??? a pair of sith who were “competent villains”???? boring. but who was charge of the fo?? a ginger twink, a metal lesbian, the worlds gothest most disastrous bisexual, and a raisin wearing a gold bathrobe. epic.
Truer words have never been spoken. 😂
Seriously, at the first sign of a less than happy ending, I will CARRY Ben Solo on MY BACK straight off the screen if I have to. Don’t make me have to, TRoS! *serious face*
I'm fucking dead