Where i fan over stuff

multi fandom, im on a sanders sides kick recently but if not i reblog mostly anime stuff

[ironwoman359]

Hello screenshot Queen may I humbly request some Nico Flores 👉🏻👈🏻

You may! And you get to pick your poison,,,,

Wholesome Nico?

Or Spooooopy Nico?

[downton-not-downtown-smh]

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

I love the idea of Logan having a Jekyll-Hyde thing going on with Orange side, but the orange-eyes thing its most probably just the Orange side showing his influence...in the same way Janus can stop the sides from speaking about stuff Thomas doesn't want to hear. Regardless i can't wait to see his character design, i'm so excited for that.

[what-is-love-babey-dont-hurt-me]

Current Timeline of ALL Possible & Known Hints about the Orange Side

Notes: This list also includes bonus content. If it’s not obvious, minor reasoning will be included. If I missed any let me know. This is to recollect on ALL POSSIBLE hints that can point to a orange side in one post so people can see them all in one place and draw educated conclusions.

1.) The Family Tree

The higher up lines indicate a sibling relationship. This family tree predicted Roman having a twin and it does the same for Patton. Included because next few hints.

1.5) Learning New Things About Ourselves

I didn’t include this fully because it really isn’t a orange side hint. HOWEVER the context is important to another thing on this list and it sets the stage of Logan’s issues.

After Roman calls his clarity stupid, Logan gets angry, crumples a paper, and throws it at his eye.

After his body language is remorseful and scared. He apologizes saying “I don’t know what that was.” It’s also worth nothing this scene inspired many Wrath theories.

2.) Putting Others First Sprites

The thumbnail lets us know there is a whole new unknown side. Worth noting his silhouette matches Logan’s silhouette.

A orange number that reads “hello” upside down. Worth nothing this appeared in a Patton-centric scene and the backing letters are Logan’s blue.

3.) Patton’s Playlist

The song Oranges by Lawrence is on there. Inclusion is self explanatory. Here are some of the lyrics.

4.) Crofters Musical 2 Fridge

Behind Patton is a drawing, nobody knows what it is for sure (it was debated for a bit with no solid conclusions) besides the fact it’s certainty orange. Might be a hint so it’s on this list.

5.) Working Through Intrusive Thoughts

After trying to reason with Remus to listen only to be ignored, and while Thomas looked at the message that wasn’t replied to, Logan gets angry again. He shouts “Stop ignoring me” and acts scared or surprised after, Remus was not. This is why 1.5 was included, to note parallels.

Finally, after a reassuring “everything is fine :)” from Janus, we see this. The inclusion is obvious, but it is worth noting the two current interpretations of these scenes are that Logan is the Orange Side, or that the Orange Side is acting through Logan.

I would love to know everyone’s thoughts :)

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

best day for being a Logan stan

[ironwoman359]

You may have gotten this already but can I request a screenshot of Logan smiling? That has fed my soul for the next three years

I HAVE SO MANY he was such a smiley boy this episode! before the end but we won't talk about that here adfaghiky

Let our boy smile 2021

[not-so-innocent-bi-sander]

i love a happy booooy. he deserves happy

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

There's so much to talk about, but honestly i'm so impressed by how much the production quality improved in this episode. I'm amazed by the direction, camera-work and cinematography in general.

[ao3commentoftheday]

Somewhere in my notes in the last few days I saw someone add some tags that I’ve been thinking about ever since. I wish I could find them again (or that I’d just saved their post at the time) because I think they made a lot of sense.

They were talking about how fanfic is becoming more and more mainstream while still remaining largely transgressive. It’s such an interesting dichotomy to think about!

On the one hand, you have sites like AO3 and realities like widespread high speed internet access being more and more accessible to larger and larger groups of people. This makes it incredibly easy for anyone at all to find and read fanfic.

On the other hand, you have the roots of fanfic. It was born out of marginalized groups such as women, people of colour, and members of the queer community deciding to take the stories that had been aimed at a largely male, white, heterosexual audience and inverting them into something they could enjoy and relate to. To this day, fanfic is a place where people write the kinds of stories that don’t get made into movies and TV shows. The kinds of stories that don’t get published or end up on the New York Times bestseller list.

Fanfic used to be written and shared in secret. People used to hide it. People still do hide the fact that they read or write it. But it’s becoming something that more and more people are becoming more and more aware of.

So now there’s a spotlight starting to shine on fanfic. People who aren’t looking for transgressive works are finding them where they always were. People who think the status quo is fine are getting upset when they enter a place where the status quo is constantly being upended.

The tags on that post that I can’t find made the point that popular media is curated and sanitized and stripped of most of its controversy in order to appeal to the widest possible audience. But that also makes that audience expect all media to be curated and sanitized in the same way. When they encounter the messy, controversial, ugly, radical, difficult things that people write in fanfic, they’re unprepared.

Fanfic isn’t big media. Fanfic authors aren’t being edited and filtered and polished - and nor are their works. The clash between the expectations of people new to fanfic and accustomed to popular media and the realities of what fanfic is and what it’s being written for - that’s part of this struggle that fandom is going through right now. It’s been going on since the beginning of course, but it’s getting louder every year.

I’m still thinking my way through this, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. If those were your tags, please let me know so I can credit you with the ideas at the core of this post.

And if you have any ideas for how we as fans can better introduce the newbies to the culture and expectations in fandom, I’d love to hear it. The better we can guide people into our space, the better they’ll fit in when they join it.

[sparkylurkdragon]

While I’m not entirely sure how, here are a few what ideas. If you’re coming into fanfic new, here is what you need to know. Perhaps other folks can think of more diplomatic ways to frame these thoughts.

Fandom has historically been dominated by the weird. Weird people, weird stories. That isn’t a bad thing. A lot of folks in fandom wear weird as a badge of honour, something we reclaimed from bullies and other abusers who slung the word and related ones at us. We are not normal and do not seek to be normal. If that idea bothers you, you are still welcome, but know that you are a guest. A lot of folks in fandom have been burned by aggressive normalcy, and start baring teeth when it intrudes into our spaces.

The author is dead. All this means is that the original canon author or authors can tell you their interpretation of the story, but they cannot control your own interpretations or imagination: their interpretation is no more or less important than anyone else’s. Something being noncompliant with canon does not make it badly-written.

Alternate universes exist. If someone wants to write characters from a serious crime drama in a sitcom, they are allowed to do that. If someone wants to explore what would happen if that horrific mass murderer was redeemed or never evil, they are allowed to do that. If someone just really likes dragons and wants to write about everyone being a dragon, they are allowed to do that.

If you write fanfic, you are also an author, so you are also dead. Once you release your ideas into the wild, other people can and will do weird things with them. The sooner you accept that, the better.

You will find porn of it if you go looking. If you don’t, some folks will take that as a challenge and go make some. As long as good-faith efforts are made to keep out people who shouldn’t or don’t want to see it, there is nothing wrong with this.

A canon being made for kids and teens does not mean that all sections of the fandom are for kids and teens. Adults can be into works for the younger set, and as long as there are clear boundaries between work that’s appropriate for kids and work that isn’t, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and absolutely nothing wrong with adult or dark works based on those stories.

Some people will really hate your favourite characters. Some people will think your favourite pairing is gross, or boring, or that the characters would be better off with someone else. Some people will think that show or game or book that got you through the roughest moments of your life is absolute trash. And that’s okay. Not everyone has to like your favourite things.

Someone writing dark stories about terrible things happening to your favourite characters, even dark stories that may mirror some trauma you’ve been through, are not writing about you. They’re not. It is none of your business why they’re writing it. Their only duty to you is to make sure you can avoid their work if you want to. Again, the sooner you accept this, the better off you’ll be.

It’s okay if you want to write something dark and depraved. Lots of people do, and if it’s weird, well, fandom has historically been dominated by the weird.

It’s okay if you want to write nothing but fluff.

It’s okay, no matter what you want to write.

Just be courteous and tag your work. Even if all you want to tag it with is “this may contain dark topics.”

Welcome.

[jemariel]

This feels related to a post I saw a while back about how so much of fandom is rooted in neuro divergence. The hyper fixation, the “squeeing”, the encyclopedic knowledge. And how, as fandom gets more and more mainstream, those hallmarks of being a Fan get tagged as *cringey*

Idk. Makes you think.

[olderthannetfic]

I love almost every point here, but if there’s one thing I would tell new fans, it’s this:

Most fanfic is straight.

These are the best hard numbers I have (with multi/other including all fics labeled as more than one of m/m, f/m, and f/f along with ones labeled as multi/other):

AO3 is the gay porn bookstore, so AO3 is the site that cares about:

Being free from corporate overlords

Not monetizing your data in creepy ways

Minute and detailed kink labeling

Protecting the freaky content

If you hate Bad Kinks, that’s fine. Just know that you will never get the kind of labeling AO3 has from the people who pander to the mainstream. If you want to get rid of The Bad Stuff, the kind of websites you’ll end up with are a sea of nigh unsearchable het, like Wattpad. And the same kinks will be there. They just won’t be labeled clearly.

People imagine that fandom is mostly queer because their own bubble is, because queer stuff sticks in their mind more as anomalous, making it seem more frequent than it really is, and because the only places that label clearly are the queer ones.

If you want to tear down the places with queer+freaky content, you will end up tearing down the only places that protect queer content at all.

[olderthannetfic]

No, literally no one missed that. For you, the big thing is underage. For someone else, it’s RPF existing at all. For someone else, it’s rape-as-kink.

I reiterate: If you hate Bad Kinks, that’s fine. But AO3 looks how it does because it’s opposed to censorship. A site less opposed to censorship would also be less into this type of metadata and would have less clear labeling.

Perhaps Wattpad’s terms of service would be more to your taste.

[hjbender]

Perhaps Wattpad’s terms of service would be more to your taste.

The politest way to tell somebody to go to hell has been found

[jimpluff]

ＢＬＯＯＤＢＡＴＨ

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

They deserve it

[telordidadar]

tumblr keeps eating this one pls work im gonna cry

[no-need-to-demonstrate-art]

And when life gives me lemons, I put sugar on it and eat it like a grapefruit :)

[leconcombrerit]

I am not sorry and Patton is too pure for this world. 

[kendallroy-deactivated20210425]

people on this website be like “it’s actually school’s fault that i don’t know how to read because i wanted to write my essay on the divergent trilogy and that BITCH mrs. clarkson made us study 1984 instead. anyway here’s a 10 tweet thread of easily disproven misinformation about a 3 year old news story and btw, who is toni morrison?”

[kendallroy-deactivated20210425]

i KNOW most of y’all are lying about being in the gifted program as children because none of you could pass the basic reading comprehension assessment they give third graders today

[themself]

this post is mean and I never read divergent or whatever the fuck but 1984 sucks and is rape apologism so if somebody wanted to write about divergent or whatever good for them

[westenra]

this reply is like literally exactly what op is talking about lol. like firstly ops point isn’t “1984 is good”, ops point is that analysing complex stories teaches you how to form opinions and think for yourself. and like secondly in 1984 you’re supposed to think damn it’s fucked up that he’s thinking that way about her, i wonder if this ties in with the central theme of “a society like this will fuck you in the head”? (this is the thinking for yourself part). like do you think orwell just put that in for fun? do you think that just because winston is the protagonist you’re supposed to agree with everything he does?

[lunaescribe]

You know I feel like this post just gave me an epiphany for what is wrong with how Tumblr Fandom/Internet Fandom responds to media-or not *wrong* but makes it very hard to respond to anything but a morally correct, and heroic protagonist. 

When an English teacher, or reader, taught or picked up 1984, it wasn’t with the intention they were going to love the protagonist. They picked it up with the intention of reading a whole story and trying to grasp the theme or catharsis from the story. If the protagonist was a *shitty* person it played into the the themes or the story, because it wasn’t about morally judging the book or *liking* or feeling attachment to the protagonist. Sometimes and often times, books were just about gaining another perspective. 

No one read Lolita expecting to endear, or like, or be inspired by Humbert. You are supposed to be upset by his behavior, you don’t read Lolita with the intention of being inspired. You read it to learn more about what the fuck is going on inside someone’s head when they behave like that. How children get sucked into abusive situations. Or read “The Great Gatsby” not because they want to fall in love with Gatsby or Nick, but to better understand and analyze the experience of the 1920s or destitution of the American Dream. 

A lot of internet and fandom culture has changed that though. When we say something like “I love the Great Gatsby” it comes with the idea or association that means you must *love* or relate to one of the characters. And maybe you do, but the first assumption is not longer about the quality of the work or themes, or cathartic impact-it’s about character admiration. And with that character admiration, in tumblr stan culture, or kin culture, or exalting characters with fanart/romance/so on you don’t just ‘admire’ or find that character ‘compelling’ it now translates to ‘you LOVE that character’ or you ‘DIRECTLY relate to that character.’ 

You can’t say “I love how Humbert is written, it’s so fascinating and dark”, without it directly translating you somehow relate to a child abuser or condone his actions. Taking in media has become an act of worship and connection. We no longer watch meant to just see the story as a whole, we watch expecting to connect to a character and if we offer them our “worship” as it’s become, as opposed to just attention or interest study as it traditionally was, it means we are condoning the character or saying we directly empathize with all their actions. 

I think that’s why there is often now so much fuss over *toxic* characters or not. Or whether that classical novel is showing good or bad things anymore. We’re treating the characters as people we should love or want to draw or write about. Sometimes a story is just about getting the the theme or catharsis or learning another perspective. We don’t NEED to like the character. Or we don’t HAVE to like a character to be impressed by how they’re written or intrigued by their behavior. 

I think if internet culture could learn to view stories as small insights into other lives or single takes of one perspective instead of purposeful moral inspirations we’d be a lot less worried about how toxic or not toxic they are. 

[ruinedchildhood]

[phantomrose17]

[silly-jellyghoty]

[thomothysdoodles]

Anyways, I saw this tweet

And I had to draw something for it

Can we talk about how Roman is the messy eater, please???

[demilypyro]

do you think butch hartman knows how many eggs he cracked with this

[aromancy]

[asimovsideburns]

butch hartman designing characters:

[johncribati]

Butch Hartman dives so deeply into into the “Boys being compared to girls as alleged comedy” hole that he effectively dug a tunnel to the other side of the world and it starts being “you barely have to squint to read this character as trans” instead.

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

Kinda off topic, but with everything that came up about Butch i sometimes wonder how much real influence did he have on this shows? Even if he was the creator that doesnt mean that maybe the screenwriters and storyboarders were the ones really running the show and creating this storylines. It's hard to me now to believe that some of the best and most nuanced FOP and DP episodes came from his mind.

[mothman-did-nothing-wrong]

I don't know jack shit about the Sanders Sides, but I'll be describing the characters using information I get from tumblr

(And a lot of guessing)

A Babey!!!

Roman??? Maybe..

Has probably never said a curse word in his life

Believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

I trust him with my life

Roumd and Soft

Has a Dad Joke readily available for any situation

Square man

Is this Roman?? He looks like a Roman

Who's Pat then? I know there's a Pat

He's smart

Pays taxes

And mortgages

I know nothing else about this man

He wears a tie

This is Roman (probably)

Roses appear around him like an romance anime protagonist

More dramatic than a cat who's begging for food right after sneaking into the cat food and eating the whole goddamn bag

A gentleman, would treat me right

Virgil!!

Anxiety ridden baby

The Fan favorite

Watches conspiracy documentaries at 3 am

Desperately needs a nap

Is he a bad guy???

I don't think he'd have enough energy to commit any atrocities

Deceit!!!!!!

Does he have an actual name or is it just Deceit???

A snake dude

Lies 24/7

Has a great fashion sense

I think he's a villain?

He looks like a good boy tho

Maybe a liar but not a bad person

Garbage man

Stinky

Unhinged feral animal

Up to no good

Would steal all my spaghetti and eat them uncooked

He'd put the empty milk box back in the fridge and feel no shame

Has committed every crime imaginable

Would tell Roman (#1) that Santa doesn't exist without any hesitance

I can go on

I still don't know who's Pat

[availe]

Accurate af

[rabisnoodlerabbit]

Im dying at how three of them are roman