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ily, menswear guy
This is fascinating
I personally believe that Shane loves fishing with David but Ilya can’t imagine anything worse than sitting in a boat and waiting for hours, so he stays home with Yuna and they watch Steel Magnolias with face masks on and an entire bottle of wine each
It's their second summer at the cottage. They'd been there 5 days so far when Shane tentatively approaches Ilya in the kitchen.
"Hey, so, uhh...," he hesitates. Ilya raises an eyebrow. Shane hadn't seemed this nervous around him since last summer.
"Everything okay?"
"Yea. Yea, everything's great. I just, well, I know you're only here for a couple of weeks but I wondered if you'd be ok with spending some time with my parents," Shane looked away how he always did when he was nervous.
Ilya's heart melted a bit.
"I mean. You can say no. I know we don't have a lot of time just the two of us. It's just that my dad and I have a tradition. We go fishing every summer and we didn't go last year so I thought maybe-"
"Of course we can Hollander."
"Really? I mean, we don't have to if you'd rather us stay here. I know we don't get to spend a lot of time together and if you'd rather just do something else we can. I won't be upset or anyth-"
"Hollander, is fine. We will go," Ilya says. Shane grins at him and they start planning their day out fishing with David. Shane packs snacks and gear while Ilya sends him different iterations of the "women want me, fish fear me" tiktok. Shane ignores all of them.
The next day they pull up to David and Yuna's cottage midmorning. David is already outside packing a tackle box with various lures.
"Hey, boys," he greets them. They spend a few moments talking about the weather and Shane tells his dad about the new rod he had bought. Yuna pops her head out the front door, she's wearing very fancy looking silk pajamas.
"David, where did you put my foot spa," she calls. Ilya looks at Shane, confused. Shane just shrugs. David sighs.
"Come help me," he says quietly to Shane, "I think it's in the hall closet behind the Christmas stuff."
The three of them make their way into the house. Shane and David head for the hallway, leaving Yuna and Ilya standing in the living room. There was a bit of an awkward silence, they hadn't spoken all that much since last summer when they had met. So instead of saying anything, Ilya looks around and sees various chocolates, a bottle of wine, charcuterie board, a face mask kit, and a pedicure set.
Yuna sees him looking at everything and says, "fishing has always been Shane and David's thing. And you couldn't pay me enough to sit on the lake all day so I've always just had myself a little spa day when they go."
Ilya nodded and was instantly jealous. In truth, he did not want to go fishing. He had only agreed for Shane's sake. He didn't want to take him away from his family. He glanced down the hall and then back at the table.
Shane and David reemerged from the hallway then, carrying the foot spa.
"Is that all you need from us," David asked.
"I think so, thank you," Yuna replied.
"Ready to head out," David asked, turning to Shane.
"Yep," he replied, "ready Ilya?"
Ilya dutifully followed them towards the door, but glanced back one more time towards Yuna who was following them to the door.
"Boys," she said as they reached the door, "I think you two need to have some time by yourselves. Just the two of you. How about you leave Ilya here."
Shane looked a little surprised. Ilya tried his very best not to look relieved. He wanted to hug Yuna at that moment for saving him from a day of touching worms.
"Mom, I can't just leave Ilya here," Shane protested.
"What you don't trust me? Think I'll scare him away?"
"Well, no, but what's he going to do all day? If he goes back home he'll just be by himself. I can't make him do that."
"Shane, he doesn't have to go home. He can stay here."
Shane's face scrunched up in that confused look Ilya loved so much, "here?"
Yuna laughed, "yes. Here. He can have a spa day with me."
"I don't think he'd want to do your whole spa day thing, Mom."
"Oh, just because you can't relax enough to enjoy it doesn't mean he can't. Just go. He'll be fine here."
Ilya thought it was amusing how they were talking about him as if he wasn't standing right next to them. Like they were fighting over who got to hang out with him.
"I can stay," Ilya said, speaking for the first time since they arrived. "Is fine. This is for you and your dad. I can stay here, I don't mind."
Shane looked conflicted for a moment but nodded. He fished his car keys out of his pocket and handed them to Ilya, "just in case you wanted to go back home." Yuna rolled her eyes.
Once David and Shane had left, Yuna led Ilya to the couch. Where they chose their respective spots and Yuna explained that she usually watched old movies but if Ilya wanted to watch something else they could. He didn't, so they started with Sixteen Candles. They snacked on the chocolates and charcuterie while Yuna applied Ilya's face mask. She set up her foot spa and they relaxed for a while in silence other than the movie.
They started chatting a little, mostly about hockey and Shane. Ilya asked Yuna what Shane was like as a child and she told him stories of a Shane that used to run off every time they went anywhere.
"I bought a leash! I was too afraid to use it. I thought people would think we were horrible, but he just kept bolting every chance he got," she said while laughing.
Around noon, Yuna opened the wine and put on Dirty Dancing. They kept chatting about nothing in particular and more hockey. Ilya was enjoying talking to her about hockey. He was surprised by her knowledge and understanding, it rivaled Svetlana's.
When Dirty Dancing ended, she put on Steel Magnolias and grabbed another bottle of wine. By the end of it she and Ilya were more than a little Tipsy and both were sniffling messes.
And this was the Yuna and Ilya that Shane and David came back to. The movie had ended, the credits were rolling, and the two of them were sniveling and talking about how unfair it all was.
"Steel Magnolias," David said to Shane solemnly. Shane nodded.
It took some convincing to get Ilya into the car, but eventually he was situated in the passenger's seat. Shane waved goodbye to his parents on their porch and climbed in.
"Did you have fun today," he asked Ilya.
Ilya nodded enthusiastically, "so much fun. We have to do that again next year." Shane just laughed and drove them both home.
i'm not joking when i say ilya admitting to shane that he looked up compatible was one of the bravest things ever. shane also asking for ilya's room number was so brave too. i love them
okay but some hotels requiring a minimum age of 21 for booking a hotel room has me extremely in my feelings about the idea of early days hollanov starting out in hotel rooms they weren't even old enough to book for themselves
GOD. shane's wallet drops out of his bag in the locker room one day and stuff spills out, so a couple of the guys help him gather things up, and one is just?? hold up?? 🤨 hollzy, is this a fake id???
and shane is full fawn in front of headlights freeze mode, but he's still 18/19 atp so the older guys just give him some playful nudges and maybe ruffle his hair with, "mad you can't drink when we hop the border, huh?"
and shane is just Yep. This Is For Drinking In America, Something I Definitely Do Please Don't Ask Any Follow-Up Questions Thank You.
shane is lucky it was his teammates that saw his fake id and not his mother. yuna would have gone off (probably while david was in the background reminiscing on how he used to have a fake id, too). that interrogation would have led to shane coming out right then and there with how bad he is at lying to people's faces.
(the funny thing is imagining how this would change the eventual first meeting between ilya and shane's parents. the angsty thing is imagining how this might have scared shane enough to stop hooking up with ilya instead.)
you added my tags, and now i'm adding yours!!
i do love the idea of ilya finding out about this years later! of course they have to fuck about it. they're probably trying to do some sort of lowkey roleplay about their hookup years in whatever hotel ilya books, but they're completely failing at keeping the vibes the same—the love and romance just keeps leaking through because ilya is feeling so particularly sappy about it all.
oh my GOD it's years later when shane is old enough to get hotels on his own now but just still has it in his wallet because he just never thought to take it out, and i am cackling at the idea of shane in the middle of the "oh my FUCKING god" of it all just pulling a desperation play of, "i'm only seeing-well, i'm kind of-it's-it doesn't matter. i'll stop seeing him, i promise, it doesn't-"
"honey, no! i would NEVER want you to do that. that's so sad."
and shane has already very obviously been pushed to his fucking limit, so david taps in here and helps settle things down in which shane doesn't have to talk about His Special Friend (shane fully gags when yuna says this because she's over-correcting and doesn't want to assume terms until she's done a refresh on some online forums to make sure her words will be accurate) right now and can just wait until he's ready. and they love him and they'll love whoever he loves (shane is fully breaking out in hives at the L word getting tossed around like this), but they can wait until he's ready for that.
and now shane is in the position of his parents don't know WHO he's seeing, but they know he's seeing SOMEONE, and they are CHECKING IN NOW. AND THEY ARE ASKING HOW HIS PARTNER (the word they've arrived at after boyfriend, significant other, and special friend all made shane visibly nauseous) IS, AND. WELL. FUCK. HE DOESN'T WANT TO LIE TO THEM WHEN THEY'VE KIND OF MADE PROGRESS TOWARDS HIM GETTING TO LIVE HIS TRUTH.
WHICH MEANS HE CAN'T CUT THINGS OFF WITH ILYA EVEN THOUGH THAT'S HIS PANIC INSTINCT BECAUSE THEN HE'D EITHER HAVE TO LIE ABOUT IT (BAD) OR SAY HE BROKE IT OFF AND RISK GETTING ASKED FOR DETAILS (ALSO BAD).
which then offers the extremely funny possible canon divergence opportunity after the tuna melt when shane makes it to the door but then gets hit with the thought, "oh god i'm gonna have to tell mom about this." which means he's facing down either having to talk things through with ilya or talk things through with his mom, and before he's even made a conscious decision, he's already hitting a 180 because even now, ilya is the less nerve-wracking option in that equation.
ilya promising children cash if they win knowing he's gonna let them win and then asking shane for money because he doesn't have his wallet. he wasn't even an annoying husband yet but he was letting shane know his potential
The parallel shots of the outcomes of the two junior prospect games though
With the celebrating teams in the background and the despondent loser sliding into the foreground
Very clear that when it’s a win it’s a team result but when it is a loss it’s felt by Ilya and Shane as individuals who are supposedly not reaching their “potential”
So much pressure on 17 year old shoulders. The stars of their national junior teams, and every hockey fan in the whole world is watching. Meanwhile, they’re both still in high school, not even old enough to vote.
And it parallels what will end up happening in The Long Game. When Montreal win the Stanley Cup, it’s a team effort. Everyone celebrates because everyone contributed. But when they crash out of the playoffs, suddenly it’s not the team’s effort anymore. Instead it’s all Shane’s fault.
If you’re the best player on the team, you’re the one who takes the blame. Both within the team/organization and from the fans. No wonder Shane and Ilya understand each other so well. And feel a connection despite the league and the media hyping up a rivalry from before they’d even met. They’ve both probably been dealing with this pressure cooker of expectations from the age of ten.
And it’s foreshadowing, too. Because look what happens to Ilya in Sochi in 2014. The Russian senior team has a humiliating crash out to a former colony during an Olympics on home soil. And it’s all Ilya’s fault, because even though he’s only 22, he’s the national team captain and everyone knows he’s the most talented Russian player.
Plus, every time Shane leads Montreal to another Stanley Cup, it’s a team victory. But when Tripgate happens, it’s all HIS fault they got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round. Fellow players, coaching staff, management, and fans consider all victories a team effort. But it’s all on Shane when they lose.
If you’re the most talented player on the team, everyone wants to share the glory. But the most talented player on the team is also the scapegoat whenever the team doesn’t win. It’s not fair to either of them, but it keeps happening to both of them.
Longtime readers may be aware of how much I relish an excuse to bully a company, so I'm sharing the wealth;
Clothing company Patagonia is currently sueing drag queen Pattie Gonia for "irreparable” harm to their brand.
To be clear; Pattie named herself after the region in South America.
So Pattie is asking people to politely ask Patagonia to drop the lawsuit.
I'm extending the invitation to all of you, because sueing a drag queen for 'infringement' in the current political cultural landscape is vile. Especially a drag queen who has raised millions of dollars for non-profits, uses her platform to raise awareness for climate activism, and fully aligns with Patagonia's apparent climate-conscious mission statement.
They're claiming they're sueing for $1. They're actually asking her to stop using her name, and pay over $1 million in legal fees. They're straight up harassing her.
In contrast, drag queen Jan Sport has a Jansport bag line. It's that easy to just... work with a queen.
Anyway. Be respectful(ish), but feel free to be annoying on Patagnoia's socials, asking them to 'DROP THE LAWSUIT'
I think they have a twitter and tiktok too!
This is being discussed heavily on Bluesky, such as here.
Patagonia is suing specifically for trademark infringement, and they're suing for the sum of $1. If they don't sue, then that means they could lose the trademark. They aren't trying to "silence" them or prevent them from using the name, they're specifically protecting their company trademark. They'd have to sue *anyone* who was using such an obvious knockoff of their logo; in this case it happens to be a drag queen.
you'll have to forgive me for not weeping for a billion dollar company's trademark being violated
Go nuts. The point is that this isn't a company trying to dogpile on a drag queen, it's a company following a standard legal practice to protect its trademark. Disney does it all the time.
... yes, and I also hate Disney? I don't understand what you think you're selling me on here
If you get a soda out of a vending machine and it has a Coca-Cola label but it's actually a knockoff made with ditchwater, that's obviously okay because Coca-Cola is a huge corporation and it's thus fine for someone to violate their trademark.
You can hate Patagonia all you want, but the lawsuit is about anodyne trademark law, not specifically that a drag queen is involved.
and what part of Miss Gonia's schtick is doing the harm equivalent of tricking someone into drinking ditchwater exactly?
...the trademark part.
right, okay, I forgot that she's singlehandedly putting Patagonia out of business by using a silly joke name
if Patagonia loses their trademark, which they would if they didn't sue and win (again for one dollar), there would be no assurance against people putting a Patagonia label on amy dogshit
well I hope Amy Dogshit enjoys wearing the label I think she'll look very nice
Oh my fucking god y’all bootlickers are driving me crazy.
I’m a law student specializing in Intellectual Property, which includes Copyright and Trademark. I’ve studied these subjects and the law is clear that everything y’all said about Patagonia “losing the trademark” if they don’t sue Ms. Pattie is absolute bullshit.
Trademarks are only lost if they are abandoned by the user or if the product made by the company becomes so ubiquitous, everyday, and common that people start calling all types of that product by the trademark name. This is called genericide, because the trademark has become so generic, it is no longer an indicator of one singular source. Think Band-Aid or Thermos; we use those terms to refer to the generic products they’re associated with. We call pretty much all sticky bandages Band-Aids and all containers used to keep things warm in Thermoses.
What Patagonia is doing is actually closer to suing for trademark infringement based on tarnishment, which means the infringer is using the trademark name in a way that makes the company look bad or associates the company with things like drugs or pornography. Queen Pattie Gonia is someone who raises awareness for climate and environmental activism. Nothing about Miss Gonia’s use of the name tarnishes Patagonia’s brand.
The only possible argument the company has is that Miss Gonia’s queer identity could be seen as not “adult-friendly” but that very quickly slides into homophobic and moralistic territory that will absolutely be shot down by the court based on First Amendment rights. People are allowed to use “not safe for work names,” based on caselaw that states that “labels that are disparaging or morally offensive” are a violation of free speech because it’s people’s choice to say and use those names. For example, an all-Asian band applied for the trademark name “The Chinks” because they were taking the racially disparaging name and reclaiming it. The Trademark Office attempted to refuse to grant the band’s trademark, and when the band sued, the Supreme Court sided with the band.
That got off on a little bit of a tangent, but the long and short of it is this: Patagonia has absolutely no basis for a trademark name. Any IP lawyer would say the same. The reason Patagonia is getting away with a frivolous suit like this is because they know their target is a member of a vulnerable minority. Miss Gonia is 100% correct that they are trying to bully her because they know she doesn’t have the money to withstand a years-long expensive lawsuit.
It’s because of idiotic bootlickers who kiss companies’ asses like this that big corporations can get away with hurting independent creators. Patagonia does not have any chance at winning, but they know that just by filing and announcing their lawsuit against Miss Gonia, they are putting pressure on her to give up. If this lawsuit goes on, even if it doesn’t make it to court and just goes to a judge for a quick summary judgment, Miss Gonia would still have to pay for a lawyer to defend her and lawyers cost more money than the average person has. Miss Gonia would win, but because Patagonia set the damages for $1, even if she did win, she’d still end up in debt because in America, the typical rule is that each party pays for the cost of their own attorney’s fees. The only time the opposing side would pay your lawyer’s fees is if you have a contract with them that says so, and that’s usually only used in contracts between businesses or high profile individuals.
What Patagonia is doing is capitalizing on society’s hatred for queer people and anyone resembling a trans woman. Miss Gonia is a drag queen, not trans as far as I’m aware (though please do correct me if I’m wrong) but it’s not like a big company cares to differentiate; they’re just mad that a queer person is using their name in a way they don’t like. Patagonia knows that this particular population has been facing harsh discrimination in society currently. By siding with them, people are actively harming the queer community. Don’t pretend to hide behind trademark law to cover up your prejudices.
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This is where I post from btw if you even care
stay-at-home dad ilya 🙇 (and shane at work)
#myshane couldn’t give less of a fuck about queer culture he just likes dick in his ass and he loves a Man. If you asked him about Stonewall he’d think it was the name of a tech startup.
#myilya is a fag and he loves it. him and harris watch queer movies once a month with Harris’ mom and they drink margaritas with little umbrellas in them.
shane:
I think a Negative Kudos button is really pointless first off (ao3 is an archive not a social media site! we don't need upvotes/downvotes to drive some nonexistent algorithm) but also it feels cowardly. like, there already is a way to share your dislike of a fic with the author. it's called commenting 'your fic is bad and I didn't like it.' but then you might look like an ass, and people might say hey that's mean, and you might have to defend your position of unkindness + consider why you feel the need to be rude to a stranger on the internet writing for fun and for free. a quick, impersonal, site-sanctioned Mean Kudos is really just a weenie move
Yes, exactly. If you want to be a dick to strangers on the internet, have the guts to OWN it!
Some art about coffee and certainly nothing else
Are you a little drunk? I knew you were more forthcoming than usual. You are not the only one who can be spirited. Well, I could use more spirited friends. Friends, then?