I ⦠I had to defend ODIN as a father to someone because I MENTIONED him giving Loki a chance as an infant in a FrostMaster fanfiction ⦠Iām gonna have a tangent.
Okay, we get it, yes, thank you, Odin was a TERRIBLE dad. Back up for a second and letās talk about it, alright? Thereās a lot more here then justĀ āOdinās a bad dad because our favorite character was mistreatedā, WAY more. And being that Iām an outspoken little prick, I want to talk about it.
1. Odin Lied to Loki: Well ⦠yes and no, considering the political climate when Odin found Loki (i.e. the massive Jotunhiem/Asgard conflict that raged for years AND that Odinās own father died during), he probably thought it best on both sides that he keep Lokiās origin and identity a secret. Asgardians HATED Jotuns/Frost Giants and they werenāt quiet about that hate so while it was risky to allow Loki to retain an Asgardian disguise, it would have been incredibly more so if he brought a tiny Jotun prince back with him (and think about how Asgardians would have handled the heir-apparent to their enemies being within their reach? We already know that not all Asgardians are perfect angels sprinkled in honor and righteousness). Also, I donāt remember Odin ever saying he hated Jotuns or instructing Loki and Thor to do so, he told them of the history of the conflict and that he won the war and they were at peace. Thor was the one stirring up trouble, not Odin so ā¦Ā
2. Odin mistreated Loki: How? Odin could have kept Loki as his prisoner or as a trophy of war, he could have used him as a bargaining chip, he could have kept him in a dungeon for his entire life, he could have done a million atrocities but what did he do instead? He adopted Loki, made him a prince of Asgard, and kept his true identity a secret to keep him safe. Is lying to your kid harmful? Yeah, even the myths of SANTA CLAUS and the EASTER BUNNY is considered a bad thing to some people. And Iām not sure how detrimental being toldĀ āyouāre adoptedā is to someone who was adopted as an infant/a child considering I am not a child who was adopted nor am I a psychologist nor do I have ANY knowledge of that, but I do think Odin thought he was doing what was best at the time without knowing how everything would play out, which is kind of the gamble parents make with some things.
3. Odin said Loki should have died as an infant: Uh, yeah? Loki was abandoned to die by his own father, if Odin (or anyone else who would have taken pity on him) hadnāt been there, Loki would have died. As an infant. Perhaps the connotation feels different when said different ways but he isnāt wrong, harsh wording aside. Iām not sure what else i should say on that point given that Odin is telling a hard truth and nothing more. I do, however, think what he meant when he said that was something like āI did all of this for you and this is how you repay me?ā, which is more of an incredulous response than aĀ āI wish Iād left you to dieā type of thing. Odin is shocked by what Loki has done, of his children (all three) Loki was not the one he thought heād have trouble with, Loki was quieter and better mannered than Thor (I cannot speak for Hela since we donāt get much of how she was in her off-time in Ragnarok), he was a studious person while Thor (and Hela) was combative and boisterous, so shock of shocks for Odin to find his youngest son causing all the problems while his headstrong elder son is the one joining a superhero group and saving Midgard, more than once.
4. Odin put Loki in prison: Yeah, instead of banishing him or executing him, remember all the shit Loki did? Think he got off pretty easy just being put in a cell, and if you look at the cell he was in it was a lot better furnished than the others and he didnāt have to share it with other criminals and he could just sit and read (which he used to do anyway), so it wasnāt so much a punishment as I think Odin wanted it to be and even his one point of separating Loki and Frigga didnāt work since she went behind his back to visit her baby boy. Anyone remember how Odin banished Thor to a realm Thor had never been to with no friends or anyone he knew, no money, nowhere to sleep, nothing to eat and without his one weapon? All he did was pick fights with another realm (understatement of course), Loki broke a whole lot more and he got a timeout. Maybe Iām splitting hairs or Iām missing something or the symbolism of the punishments are lost on me but ⦠I dunno, if Thor was everyoneās favorite youād think heād get away with being a petulant child more. Also, Odin didnāt want Loki on Earth where he had no control over how Loki was treated, they could have and probably would have done really not good things to him whereas in Asgard, Odin has all the cards.
5. A point I would like to make because no one else seems to say it: No one gonna mention Frigga so I have to be the bad guy, huh? Okay, fine, Frigga lied to Loki andĀ āmistreatedā Loki as much as Odin. Oh, sure she did it in a softer fashion, but a lie is still a lie, you canāt just sit back and pretend she didnāt have a hand in all this! She taught him magic, she knew how to change his appearance (donāt tell me she didnāt because no) and she could have told him but she didnāt. I love Frigga, I really do, between the two losing Frigga was way more heartbreaking than losing Odin a million times would have been, but stop demonizing Odin because heās the more obvious target.Ā
6. Last point I want to make because I can: Odin loved Loki. Had a hard time showing it maybe, said or did things that might not have conveyed that, fucked up a few times with his decisions, but he loved him. He said as much and Loki eventually began to accept that love too (or did yāall just gloss over that Loki put Odin in a Home on Midgard in Ragnarok instead of just killing him as everyone suspected he did at the end of Dark World?). Clearly their relationship is distant and strained, thereās loads of baggage and things left unsaid and scar tissue, but there is something there, a quiet, tentative something but we canāt pretend it isnāt there.
Did I talk enough? Can I go now? I mean, Jesus, Odin is my least favorite character too but come on! Squealing at me thatĀ ānuh-uh, he was bad because my favorite character wasnāt treated like a perfect angelā is a pathetic, childish argument. Loki is not perfect, yes he has suffered a great deal (get away from me Russo brothers) and yes he has mudddled through it mostly alone, but HE ISNāT PERFECT and neither is Frigga, or Thor, or Odin! I canāt believe that Iām defending Odin of all people on TUMBLR where Loki is pretty much a patron deity and everyoneās husband, but Iām miffed! Miffed that everyone elseās redemption arc counted except Odinās, everyone else gets to fuck up over and over and be better for it and be a hero but Odin is still shit to everyone. And yeah, youāre allowed to hate him, heās a fictional character set up as a force to rebel against in the eyes of his children, they all eventually try to push against his authority and control as king and father, but canāt we all agree that a flawed character isnāt a villain by default?