The ducking down in the car scene was Jared and Jensen joking around.
Source: Lynn Zubernis’s review of 14x04
I expect nothing else from these goofballs. Perfection.

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The ducking down in the car scene was Jared and Jensen joking around.
Source: Lynn Zubernis’s review of 14x04
I expect nothing else from these goofballs. Perfection.
If you don’t think Jody’s lament of losing Kaia isn’t Bob straight up using her as a mouthpiece to grief the show he lost, then I honestly don’t know what to tell you.
This exactly. Even the way she described losing her. I feel like “I barely knew her and then she was gone.” Exactly like Wayward. All that lovely possibility just gone.
The thing that killed Kaia is still out there. And I don’t care if I have to tear another hole in the universe. We’re gonna find it. And I’m going to kill it.
[x]
“I don’t… get it. I don’t understand why I would do something like that. I don’t… I don’t get how I would let Lucifer possess me.”
“You were in a lot of pain and Lucifer saw vulnerability, and he… he exploited it.”
“Is that what you tell yourself so you can be near me?”
“I guess so.”
“I just don’t know what kind of pain would make me allow Lucifer to possess me.”
“It was your family.”
“It was love.”
Me: ha ha isn’t it funny that Michael has extra grace lying ar-
Anael: *is missing*
Me: Shit.
4x01 // 14x03
#new shoulder who dis
Is this part of Michael’s plan, just letting his perfect vessel go like that???
He’s 100% faking. Jensen said outright that dean bean is gone atm and i am POSITIVE he is either faking or michael is manipulating him. Where would michael even go???
Maybe Michael is making Dean believe that he has the control because he knows Sam will tell Dean what the plan to stop him is?? Maybe once he gets the information he needs, he will take the control over Dean again.
Idk, I think that would make sense to me
Is this part of Michael’s plan, just letting his perfect vessel go like that???
But if he’s AU Michael would Dean really be his perfect vessel?
It doesn’t matter if this is AU Michael, because Dean’s bloodline is capable of containing an archangel and he is one, so
Personally I think it’s just AU!Michael pretending to be Dean. That would explain the “trap” he was talking about.
Supernatural 14x02 “Gods and Monsters” Sneak Peek - RICHARD SPEIGHT, JR. RETURNS TO DIRECT – Sam finds a clue to Dean’s whereabouts, so he, Mary and Bobby set out to investigate. Castiel imparts some sage advice on Jack, who, still desperate to belong, seeks out a familial connection. Richard Speight, Jr. directed the episode written by Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming.. Original airdate 10/18/2018
“My fbi might be a little rusty” 😂😂
OK BUT IF THIS IS NOT PARALLELED TO SHOW THE EVOLUTION OF THEIR BOND ???!!!
Not to mention God as the viewer and creator.
To go from being shocked and awed by these two, to quietly smiling and dying a little on the inside
Promos stills for “Gods and Monsters.”
Plus these!
Supernatural titles which were never used.
Michael and Sister Jo
I wanted to write about this separately to my review which is getting very long because this is bugging me and I wanna open up the discussion.
Does anyone else find that what Michael so confidentially said about Sister Jo just make absolutely no sense whatsoever?
This whole exchange was so weird to me. In an episode where it seems every word was chosen carefully and every line specifically crafted to portray a deeper meaning, Michael’s conversation with Sister Jo really threw me – or well, it didn’t, but I couldn’t possibly believe that Dabb would really do what I think he was doing here, and instead had to make jokes about it with @tinkdw. Because surely Michael got his angel’s mixed up right?
“I know about you Jo, because he knew about you. You’re the rebel, the angel who doesn’t like playing by heaven’s rules, or whatever”
Does this sound like Jo to you guys? And as a matter of fact, how can Michael possibly know about Jo because of what DEAN knows about Jo? Dean met Jo once, and for all of 10 minutes before she betrayed him to Lucifer. He knew she was a fallen angel making the best of her situation on earth by playing a faith healer. He knew she was a business woman, and he knew that she was working with Lucifer. That’s about it.
How does that fit with that description above?
You know who DOES fit that description? CASTIEL. Because Castiel is THE rebel angel who Dean KNOWS for certain doesn’t like playing by heaven’s rules.
My only possible explanation for this is that Michael got Jo and Cas confused when he skim read through Dean’s memories. Probably because of what he says next:
JO: “And if you’re so smart, what do I really want?”
MICHAEL:“Love. To belong, to have a place, a home, a family, it’s very, very human of you.”
Again, HOW is this what he got from assessing JO? Let’s just have a quick refresher of everything she has said about her desires in the past two episodes she was in shall we?
13x13:
JO: “I had ideas, I saw how heaven was running, and I knew how to fix it, but no one would listen to me. Not Michael not Raphael not Naomi, they would just send me back to push my button.”
LUCIFER: “So up there you’re nobody. Down here you’re somebody.”
JO: “After the fall, when we lost our wings. I wasn’t devastated. I was liberated. I was finally free.”
In 13x13 Jo devises a way to protect herself from Lucifer, but also uses him for her own gains – to gain power in heaven. She didn’t like her position in heaven, and felt that being on Earth liberated her from that – hence her starting her business and calling herself an “excellent businesswoman”, but as soon as she had the chance, she went back to heaven with Lucifer. If she truly wanted the things Michael says she wanted, then why on earth wouldn’t she have taken the Winchester’s offer back in this episode? Because she WANTED to be Lucifer’s “Queen” in heaven.
13x18:
“we came here to change things, make heaven better, help the angels”
and:
“why don’t you make heaven right? Make good on your promise, make angels, give the existing ones their wings back”
13x18 reinforces these goals. Her intentions were always to help heaven. To make it better. Her frustrations with Lucifer were nothing to do with him not giving her luuurve, and a family. No. She wanted to have power and control in heaven. That was ALWAYS her goal.
So either Dabb just completely changed the character, or Michael got majorly confused. Nothing that Michael said to Jo makes any sense. But you know who it DOES make sense for? CASTIEL. It was such a blatant description of Cas and his reputation and his desires that it was really jarring to hear it being said to anyone other than Cas. My only explanation of this is that Michael skim read Dean’s mind, saw that he was in love with an angel who was a rebel who desired love and family in return and is so bloody heteronormative he applies that concept to the first female angel he comes across who had actually met Dean.
Dean must be sitting in the back of his own head with popcorn saying “oh boy Michael you are coming across so dumb right now, but sure. Go ahead and misinterpret my memories. Better that than actually finding Cas.”
So yeah, Tink and I made this into a joke, because otherwise it makes no sense. Don’t get me wrong I loved the episode, but there were quite a few moments on the surface level that just make me scratch my head and say WTF.
What is everyone else thinking about this?
Gonna tag some people:
@tinkdw, @mittensmorgul @margarittet @elizabethrobertajones @postmodernmulticoloredcloak
and anyone else who wants to add their thoughts.
Oh, right, this is something that caught my attention while watching the episode and then forgot :p
When Michael said that line about her being a rebel, it immediately made me go ‘oooh Cas parallel’ in my head, and then of course the parallel continued to fit.
I don’t think Michael got the two angels confused, but I guess that Jo is intended to be parallel for Cas, these lines meant to put those ideas in front of the audience and make us question whether they have more layers to them.
I think those things can be true for Anael/Jo. After all, what have been her ‘goals’ so far? Pretty things and expensive bags, that’s obviously a substitute for something else. It’s clear she doesn’t actually care about those things, but uses them to fill a void, like a human would, anyway.
Power - what’s power even for? Why does one want power? I am pretty sure that power is also a substitute for something else, or at least something you believe that will let you acquire what you need/want. Power is not an end in itself. It also serves to fill a void, even if you don’t realize that.
She left heaven. She was disappointed and bitter towards the angels. But she seemed to care about them, she seemed to care about what Lucifer could do to benefit them and was upset when it turned out to be a lie. I believe that she always cared about angels, and she was frustrated that heaven worked as a dysfunctional bureaucracy instead of a family. There was no compassion to be found in heaven, no love, no family - she tried to help make heaven better, she wasn’t even deemed worthy of being listened to - so she left when she was presented with an opportunity to do so. Heaven was unbearable, because she wanted it to be different, she wanted to change it, and she couldn’t. No wonder she jumped on the first opportunity to help angels and change heaven. She cared - it’s the only way to reconcile her superficial passion for human things on earth and apparent indifference towards heaven matters with her sudden desire to join/use Lucifer to operate in heaven.
She also seeks appreciation and warmth on earth. She uses her angelic powers to heal people, and they love her and admire her for what she does to them. It is not implausible that, while she tells herself that she’s doing it for money, she subconsciously is after the emotional payback her actions have. It’s sort of twisted and not out of character for an angel (angels in general seem to have a little difficulty understanding emotional matters…) to seek appreciation and love in a very ‘mechanical’ way - you do something good for the person, the person is grateful to you. She’s basically buying the humans’ “love”, although she tells herself she is the one whose services are bought by the humans.
I think that the point of the scene is that Michael is telling her that she lies to herself about what she wants - she tells herself she does things to get money, but she does things because she seeks an emotional fulfillment that she can’t have (she can’t have in heaven because heaven is a mess, she can’t have on earth because she doesn’t really fit in with humans, doesn’t probably even know how).
I think she wanted to have a place in heaven in the sense of somewhere she could belong in terms of a family, or a group based on appreciation and compassion (or at least the angelic understanding of those), but heaven never gave that to her, so she ‘rebelled’ in the sense that she left, she decided to turn her back to the angels - until an opportunity to change heaven seemingly arose. It was a bust, so she went back to what she was doing before, away from the angels and heaven, and that’s where Michael found her, trying to pretend she didn’t care about anything but herself.
It’s also possible that Michael made his assessment of Jo using interpretative tools taken from the assessment of other renegade angels that chose to stay on earth among humans and had more detailed files, but I think it’s also possible that all he said was true for her.
sorry that’s all I could think of when you were talking about Jo’s sublimation of her actual desires through mechanical means and… I agree with everything else, so here we go. :D
Sam: Anyways, then I said there would be no new king of hell, and if they wanted the job, they would have to go through me.
Gabriel: Sounds to me like you’re the king now.
Sam: What? No, Gabe, I’m not. I can’t. I mean, you’re leading heaven and-
Gabriel: Sam! That’s freakin hot.
Sam: O-oh.
THE STORY LINE WE ALL DESERVE
Gabriel, leader of Heaven, and Sam, king of Hell. Can someone write this for me-
*cracks knuckles* let’s get writing lads
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SPN literally doesn’t make sense without destiel. why did amara find dean by touching cas’s heart? why was cas dean’s colette? why did dean give cas a mixtape? why did cas fall from heaven for a human? why did dean keep cas’s coat in the trunk of his car for all those months? why did naomi make cas kill dean a thousand times? why was dean able to break the connection? why did cas give up an entire army for one guy? why did dean pray to cas every night? why did cas always come when dean called? why didn’t dean have faith anymore? why was cas based on the angel cassiel who fell in love with the righteous man? why are bert and ernie gay, why should they put as much sub into that text as they possibly can, why did cas come into dean’s room and play him, why do they share a more profound bond, why was cas dean’s boyfriend first, why did dean get laid the last time someone looked at him like that, why is cas in love with humanity, why is dean an angry sleeper like a bear, why is cas dean’s devastatingly handsome friend, why did dean make cas watch it, why was cas never in dean’s— why
because they’re bros, duh
Yup…
Totally…
Just…
Bros…
No sexual tension…
Or anything….
Two bros looking at each other like bros because they are not gay