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Who would get pregnant?

Conner kent| kon el

Bernard Dowd

Tim drake

Voting ended onAug 14, 2025

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Since people are still confused about Tims dating history and over-exaggerating how big of a slut he is or saying that his type is blondes, I'm going to clear some things up.

Also, I'm counting actual canon relationships, not just random women who kissed him because I cant be bothered and some of those were grown ass women kissing a fifteen year old.

First girlfriend: Ariana Dzerchenko - Tims first girlfriend when he was fourteen was a black haired Russian immigrant who lived with her uncle. Their relationship was kinda strained because Tim couldn't tell her everything about himself as Robin and she kept accusing him of cheating on her and then cheating on him and when she tried to admit to him that she went out with another guy he fell asleep and her uncle tried to kill him and they were forbidden from seeing each other. It was a whole thing. By the end of the relationship, it was very strained and they were obviously trying to make something that couldn't work, work.

Tim technically kissed Stephanie after she saved him from getting buried alive with her dad, and went on kinda dates with her as spoiler and robin when Ariana and Tim were forbidden from seeing each other. I think Spoiler and Robin kissed during those kinda dates after Tim and Ariana were allowed to see each other again and trying to make their relationship work. Tim was going to tell Ariana but she dumped him so the whole issue was resolved.

This is the only instance of Tim cheating. Yes, it was very messy. But it was mainly chuck dixon trying to push for Timsteph to be together and force steph into a manic pixie dream role and make her seem so much more rational and reasonable than ariana and not like other girls.

Second Girlfriend: Stephanie Brown. Honestly, they were so cute together. Especially when they written by Jon Lewis. Steph starts off not knowing anything about Tim but Batman betrays his trust and reveals Tims identity to her when he goes missing. Their relationship only becomes stronger though and they lean on each other and are honest and open and Tim tries to kill someone for her. They loved each other and I loved them together. They genuinely looked out for eachother.

And then, something stupid happens.

Darla decides to kiss Tim instead of saying hey I like you when Tim has said repeatedly that he has a girlfriend. Steph was spying on Tim and runs away just before Tim cuts off the kiss and tells darla that she shouldnt have done that. This is what people also bring up for Tim cheating. but. literally.

Anyway, war games, darla dies, steph dies, jack dies, dana is hospitalised with grief and darla comes back to life. what they had i wouldnt call a relationship, especially because tim isnt in the right mental state for one right now, what with losing steph and all. And darla isnt in the right headspace either, so they didnt actually date even though people keep trying to bring up darla as a relationship.

Third girlfriend: Zoanne Wilkins. An african american high achieving girl who is on her way to harvard. I love her, and she and Tim are similar in the way that they are academically smart and inclined and shes understanding of what hes struggled through with losing his parents and getting kidnapped right in front of her and everything. She is understanding, but ultimately they call off the relationship and stay just friends.

Also weird thing with Cassie I wouldnt count because it was a grief fueled depressive spiral that was bound to end badly because they were both thinking of kon while it was happening. so i dont think they really dated

Fourth girlfriend: Tamara Fox. Tam is different because she knew Tim was Red Robin from the start and she has been involved in so much crazy shit with him i dont know why she hasn't beat him up yet. They werent really together a whole lot, but they had like a fake engagement to get Vicki Vale off their back and hey it worked. They

And then there was this weird thing with lynx who was maybe a good guy maybe a bad guy and tim broke her out of prison and they kept like getting freaky on rooftops. It was weird, but this kinda happened at the same time of the Timtam stuff. Not really dating, just a few makeouts on the roof. So cheating? If Tim and Tam were actually dating, which was really unclear.

Idk what happens in new 52 cos i just. ignore. all that.

Tim and steph are back together! In young justice 2019 at least. And they are so cute and in love.

But then they break up off panel and Tim comes out as bi and dates bernard. Its very much a disservice to this relationship that is so iconic and amazing and im not saying that tim being bi and tim dating bernard is bad or wrong, im just saying that tim and steph not having any real closure on their relationship is not good because they kind of just thrust tim into this realtionship with bernard built on nothing. but its whatever.

First boyfriend: Bernard Dowd. His friend at louise e grieve memorial, before it got shot up and the third person in their trio died. when the school got shut down, people were sent all over the place, Bernard to some rich private school and Tim to bludhaven where he drops out of school completely. They dont keep in touch, which is pretty much explicitely states in robin 1993 when bernard makes a rough estimation to darla as to where tim is. but still. its very random and kind of bland and kind of like they just forced a boyfriend onto tim to be like hey look we have a bisexual character.

I just wish there was a proper build up instead of it kind of being random. And breaking up with steph off panel. and just there being nothing of substance of their relationship. all of his other relationships show conflict and resolution. Secret identities play an issue with his ability to communicate, his inability to be honest, his grief and issues with balancing his lives and living up to expectations of a relationship. Does bernard know tim is robin? ive seen those pride covers and like i read td:r but idek when he reveals hes robin. it was a while ago but still. does bernard know what happened to darla? also why would they reunite two of the trio and not bring back darla. like where is their magic best friend? it could be so interesting to see their relationship change from when they were in high school to young adulthood but no. They had so much potential, but the execution was just oh look hes gay and has boyfriend now. theyre happy, no conflict, no substance, no nothing.

Anyway. Four official relationships. I feel like thats normal for like a 19-21 year old. Hes not that big of a cheater, but he is still messy and weird and has strange homoerotic friendships. anyway. dc bring back zoanne wilkins and darla aquista and i will love you.

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Tim forgets Kon (again) has such pathos potential

Yet "a postgraduate study on pack dynamics in late-stage capitalism" compels me

A whole lot of people asked about "postgraduate study", so I'm gonna give you "Tim forgets Kon (again)"

Timbern invited Kon to join their relationship. Tim is romantic partners with both Bernard and Kon, while Superblond is more of a "bros who bang" vibe at the beginning. They have a newly-established relationship and full-time kink dynamic (zero guesses about who the primary sub is).

Robin has a really scary TBI one night, and suffers short-term amnesia that happens to be just long enough that he doesn't remember the shift in his and Kon's relationship. Only, their relationship is still so new that most people don't know, so it isn't until after Tim gets released to go home that it starts to become clear just how much of Kon he's forgotten (again).

"I need to ask about something," Tim says fearfully, "because I don't remember it, and it feels like it might be as bad as not remembering that Kon lives with us." "Hon, I promise I won't blame you for gaps in your memories," he assures, taking one of Tim's hands between both of his. "Just don't push to remember, okay? Doctor A said they'd probably come back in pieces, so just take it easy on yourself." Tim nods, then takes a deep breath before asking, "Did we… have a dog or cat at some point?" "Oh." If he'd been listing the questions he thought Tim might have, that wouldn't have even cracked the top hundred. "No, we've never had a pet. What prompted you to ask?" Tim holds out the small object he'd been playing with. It's flat and round, about the size of a quarter. "I was going to get my migraine glasses," he explains, gesturing to the nightstand. "I found it, but it doesn't feel familiar." It takes Bernard a second to place the object – mostly because the polished and engraved metal has become so entwined with their relationship, he can't imagine not recognizing it – and as soon as he understands, he's very, very glad that Kon was called away to Metropolis so soon after Tim got home. The jagged edge of the tag mocks him, where it had broken free of its ring a few days before the accident. Bernard remembers meeting Tim's half-closed eyes over the sweaty mop of Kon's curls, grinning at the way he was struggling to hold himself up between them. He remembers both of them reaching forward to stabilize Kon by grabbing his collar, remembers their fingers tangling, the flimsy metal somehow twisting free, and falling to the duvet with the faintest thud. Unable to fix it immediately and unwilling to risk losing this treasured thing, Tim had stretched just far enough to slip it into the nightstand on his side of the bed before returning to his position and continuing to fuck Kon's face. Bernard takes the tag from Tim, stares at it, runs his thumbs over the elegant script engraved in the chrome, already dreading the expression on Kon's face when he has to explain this later. Precious

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Tim retiring from being Robin is correct. It's the most correct natural step in his character because Tim has tried multiple times in the past to retire from being robin / a vigilante and him making this decission for himself and good character writing.

what isn't good character writing is the REASON for him quitting because his entire argument is contrived as hell and honestly so extremely weak.

tim quitting because he doesn't like 'lying to bernard'

you know, the bernard who KNOWS TIM IS ROBIN

the bernard that ISNT FUCKING SUBTLE ABOUT KNOWING TIM IS ROBIN

THE BERNARD THAT TIM AND DAMIAN HAD THIS ACTUAL CONVERSATION IN FRONT OF WITHOUT A MOMENT OF PANIC AND WORRY

BULL. SHIT.

I would buy this reasoning from Tim if DC hasn't gone out of their way on MULTIPLE INSTANCES to show us that Bernard knows about Tim, and Tim should LOGICALLY KNOW BERNARD KNOWS based on both of their behaviors , but instead is retconing all of this to give tim a weak ass excuse to step away from being robin when THERE WAS BETTER AND MORE LOGICALLY SOUND REASONS FOR TIM TO STEP AWAY.

TIM IS ONLY LYING TO BERNARD BECAUSE DC CAN'T FUCKING DECIDE IF HE KNOWS BERNARD KNOWS OR NOT AND IT'S A BULLSHIT REASONING FOR HIM TO RETIRE.

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Stephanie Brown 🤝Bernard Dowd:

-blond

-fighter

-extrovert

-deserves better

-casually doing/saying unhinged shit

-asshole dad: should get to punch their dad more often

-I love them so so so much

-Robin secret identity shenanigans

-same taste in romantic partners

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This is self-made. Date of creation: 22.01.2024

I assume no guarantee or liability for the completeness, correctness and accuracy of this chart despite my best efforts.

Includes fanfictions in all languages available, NOT English only. Includes all fandoms on Ao3 connected to Tim Drake.

Percentages were rounded up or rounded down to natural numbers for easier comprehension.

Poly ships were not included.

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