Apr 11
THAT 70’S SHOW 4x26 "Everybody Loves Casey"
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THAT 70’S SHOW 4x26 "Everybody Loves Casey"
Do you have a favorite side character in T7S? If so, why are they your favorite? And do you try and include them in your writing?
It depends on what you mean by side character!
If we're talking supporting cast members that aren't typically the main focus (i.e. Laurie, Bob, Midge, Leo), then it would be Laurie, easily. As mean-spirited and sharp-tongued as she is, she's an interesting character that had a lot of potential that would've been nice to see had the circumstances allowed it to. I intend to explore what I would've liked to see for Laurie had her character arc not been abandoned in my fic 'Love, Wisconsin Style' in future chapters!
If we're talking guest characters...it's a toss up between Rhonda Tate and Casey Kelso.
Rhonda is a cool character. She's a girl that's a competitive wrestler that has a reputation for getting around, but demonstrates very endearing vulnerability in her subplot with dating Fez. She's a character that I would've liked to have seen as a member of the main group of friends much earlier into the series, and for the remainder of it to the end. I also would've liked to see her interact more with Donna and Jackie. I try and include her where appropriate in my fics of course!
As for my more controversial pick, Casey Kelso, he's a favorite because he's the perfect antagonist to Eric that actually adds to the universe -- as opposed to Mitch Miller, who is mostly just annoying and creepy. Make no mistake, Casey Kelso is a dangerous womanizer and a bad person in general, but his existence provides an interesting (perhaps unexpected) conflict for Eric to navigate, context for Kelso's misogynistic behavior, and a means to show (and exacerbate) Donna's deteriorating emotional state.
As much as I find him abhorrent, he's actually interesting to watch (in a way that his younger brother is not, because the show often presents Kelso's more atrocious behavior as acceptable). Much like Rhonda, where appropriate, I like introducing Casey as an antagonistic force in the narrative.
I also really enjoyed Joanne Stupak as well -- it seems Season 4 had a lot of really great guest characters, now that I think about it. Thanks for the ask! 💖
We know Kelso has brothers (what was it, 4?) and a sister but do we know where he falls in terms of the order of kids? Isn't Casey the oldest?
Kelso has five brothers and one sister. From context clues on the show:
Oldest son
Second oldest son
Third oldest son
Casey
Sister
Michael
Younger brother
In S6, Kelso talks about helping out with only one younger brother when said brother was a baby.
The (horrible) way Eric, in particular, and Hyde talk about Kelso's sister in the circle gives the impression she's older than Kelso but not by much. She's probably in college.
Casey is two years older than Kelso, I believe, meaning their mom pumped out children relatively close together. The youngest was probably an accident surprise.
My headcanon is slightly different, though:
Oldest son
Second oldest son
Sister
Casey
Michael
Twin boys
If you could change any two T7S storyline, what would it be and why
Confirming I can change any storylines between seasons 1-7...
My first priority would be Hyde and Jackie's story but I could pick any number of them, including:
Hyde & Jackie getting together in S5 would be changed to a union fans actually get to see instead of happening offscreen and it would be a continuation of their established and developed bond since S1 and especially since S3 (rather than pretending they immediately went from "hating each-other" to "messing around" out of sheer boredom). In my version, Eric's and Donna's reactions wouldn't be so hypocritical and based around Kelso's-misfortune (as it was his own doing). There would be callbacks to how Hyde and Jackie were perhaps inevitable but the gang remembering how Hyde had a soft spot for Jackie since the prom and how Jackie had an extreme crush on him before. Even a glimpse of continuity would have been nice.
Hyde & Jackie's getting back together in S6 would be changed to Hyde actually doing some work. Jackie would not be chasing him. He would do the chasing because HE CHEATED ON HER TO BEGIN WITH. They would actually talk about his infidelity. She would express her concerns. He would fight for her like he claimed at the end of the season prior. You know... continuity. Instead of the rushed crap we were fed. In my version, it may actually take a few episodes worth of Hyde putting in the work. I personally loved that kind of turmoil we got at the tail end of S5. Jackie deserved to be fought for and it was refreshing to see Hyde care enough about someone to fight for.
Hyde flirting with Jackie's mom in S6 would be him having an in-character response to his girlfriend's absentee, alcoholic mother returning out of the blue, not only as someone who is concerned about the women he's fallen in love with but as a victim of a absentee, alcoholic mother himself. He wouldn't be all Kelso-fied like he ultimately was in this instance and lust after her, nor would he ditch Jackie to deal with it to follow Kelso to his police academy and certainly wouldn't entertain the idea of her coming on to him when he saw her topless. He'd be furious and protective and it would be another way that Hyde and Jackie grew stronger through their shared trauma/upbringing/family dynamics.
Hyde and Jackie's conflict in S7 would be character-driven and well-developed/explained. Hyde's sudden behaviour in which he breaks promises to Jackie and acts like he no longer cares or needs her would be clearly demonstrated as a self-sabotage mechanism after being catapulted into a career and new family. Jackie's need for stability would be elaborated onscreen as a response to Hyde's attitude towards her especially after the aborted wedding of their best friends the season before. I personally didn't even need them to end up engaged. They were young. But we should have seen more meaningful angst, especially if this was since it was the last season. My version would be Jackie needed to leave PP to pursue either her education (college) or career and them trying to overcome a (semi) long-distance relationship.
Other non-zennie storylines I would change if I could:
The whole Hyde/Donna thing in S1.
Jackie and Kelso reuniting in S3.
Donna and Casey's relationship in S4.
Fez and Laurie's marriage in S6.
Kelso and Brooke parting ways in S6.
Eric leaving Donna at the altar in S6.
Kelso and Angie getting together in S7.
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If I had to choose just 2 of them, I would probably pick Hyde/Jackie's getting together in S5 and Hyde/Jackie's conflict in S7.
Hiya, Sarah 💛! Could I request Casey Kelso and Emmett Richmond?
Hi there, sweetie! I really hope that you like this a lot!
Casey Kelso's MBTI Type, Big Three, Enneagram Type and Moral Alignment Type
MBTI Type: ESTP [The Entrepreneur]
ESTP types like being around large groups of people, whether they know them or not. They prefer being out in action to being at home by themselves.
They are very observant and detail-oriented people. They are practical and realistic, focusing on the here-and-now.
Entrepreneurs make decisions based in logic. They care more about following the truth than making other people happy.
They avoid schedules, preferring to make plans as they go. They less aware of time and enjoy being adaptable.
Big Three: Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Leo Rising
Scorpio Sun: Ruled by Mars and Pluto, the Scorpio Sun is known to be intense, mysterious, and ever-evolving.
Aries Moon: Lunar Aries are known to be emotionally responsive and impulsive at times, as they lead with fiery passions over than logic or reason.
Leo Rising: Leo ascendants bask in the glow of sunlight, radiating positivity and charm. Performers through and through, those with this friendly, radiant, and outgoing placement exude confidence and strength.
Enneagram Type: 3w2 [The Enchanter]
Basic Fear: Enneagram type three wing twos are afraid of failing and being unworthy of love. They avoid this by setting and accomplishing goals, in order to feel successful and worthy.
Basic Desire:Their basic desire is to be admired and accepted. They seek value through accomplishment, which may push them deeper into their work.
Enchanters tend to adjust their persona to their audience, in order to feel as though they are easily liked, which may lead to playing a character rather than being themselves.
Moral Alignment Type: Neutral Evil [The Malevolent]
These characters are strictly self-serving, doing whatever suits their needs without any regard for order or chaos.
Emmett Richmond's MBTI Type, Big Three, Enneagram Type and Moral Alignment Type
MBTI Type: INFJ [The Advocate]
Introverted INFJs exhaust quickly around people and recharge by spending time by themselves.
They tend to overlook small details and instead focus on the entire perspective. They love to see how everything connects together.
Advocates prioritize their emotions. They tend to base decisions on what they feel is right rather than what might be logically sound, making them very empathetic.
They are also very structured and organized. INFJs like to plan ahead and follow processes and schedules.
Big Three: Libra Sun, Cancer Moon and Taurus Rising
Libra Sun: Libra is ruled by the airy part of Venus, making them bon vivants, critical, and artistic — as well as forever stylish.
Cancer Moon: The emotions of Cancer Moons have no limits, restraints, or depths. This is a cosmic placement that often leads to sweetness, kindness, emotional awareness and responsibility.
Taurus Rising: Those with Taurus risings exude grace and sophistication, and handle business with a sweet disposition.
Enneagram Type: 6w5 [The Guardian]
Basic Fear: Sixes with five wings are afraid of losing their guidance and stability. This is often expressed through their skepticism of the world.
Basic Desire: They have a strong desire for security, which they tend to show by protecting themselves and others. They seek close and stable relationships.
Guardians tend to defend themselves by projecting their own feelings onto others, which can often enhance their distrust of the world.
Moral Alignment Type: Neutral Good [The Benevolent]
These characters seek to do good, but are flexible in how they achieve it, valuing both order and freedom.
Chapter 7 of What If: Eric And Donna Were Friends With Benefits? is here! You love him, you hate him, you love to hate him: prepare for the return of Casey Kelso. 😉
Chapter 7: Donna Dates A Kelso
Read it on: A03 I FF.net
Hiya, Sarah 💛! Eric Forman and Casey Kelso for the MBTI matchup, please? (Odd pairing, I know.)
Hi there, Sunshine! I really hope you like this a lot!
Eric Forman's MBTI Type, Big Three, Enneagram Type and Moral Alignment Type
MBTI Type: INTP [The Logician]
INTPs prefer spending time alone so they can explore their rich inner world, and prolonged exposure to big groups of people can make them feel drained.
Their focus lies more on understanding the big picture than on noticing the tiny details. They want to know how things connect together, which gives them great intuition for solving complex problems.
As the most thinking-oriented of the types, they rely on logic rather than emotion as their main influence in decision making.
An INTP normally likes to keep their options open rather than locking themselves into a commitment. They’re flexible and spontaneous, which allows them to capitalize on opportunities that come available at the 11th hour.
Big Three: Pisces Sun, Gemini Moon and Virgo Rising
Pisces Sun: The planetary ruler for Pisces is Jupiter and Neptune, which gives Pisces Suns a sentimental, intuitive, imaginative, and dreamy nature.
Gemini Moon: Ruled by winged messenger, Mercury, Gemini Moons enjoy discussing their complex feelings with others in order to gain a mindful and clear emotional perspective.
Virgo Rising: Virgo ascendants are the fact-finders and checkers of the zodiac. They are fair-minded and slow to anger.
Enneagram Type: 6w7 [The Confidant]
Basic Fear: Six wing sevens fear losing their support system. This may be expressed through self-deprecating humor, in which they seek affirmation and assurance from other people.
Basic Desire: Their basic desire is to feel safe and supported. They show this by being loving and supportive to others. They honor their commitments and are very loyal to their friends.
Like other sixes, Confidants defend themselves by projecting their feelings, which may lead them to misunderstanding themselves and their relationships.
Moral Alignment Type: Neutral Good [The Benevolent]
These characters seek to do good, but are flexible in how they achieve it, valuing both order and freedom.
Casey Kelso's MBTI Type, Big Three, Enneagram Type and Moral Alignment Type
MBTI Type: ESTP [The Entrepreneur]
ESTP types like being around large groups of people, whether they know them or not. They prefer being out in action to being at home by themselves.
They are very observant and detail-oriented people. They are practical and realistic, focusing on the here-and-now.
Entrepreneurs make decisions based in logic. They care more about following the truth than making other people happy.
They avoid schedules, preferring to make plans as they go. They are less aware of time and enjoy being adaptable.
Big Three: Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Leo Rising
Scorpio Sun: Ruled by Mars and Pluto, the Scorpio Sun is known to be intense, mysterious, and ever-evolving.
Aries Moon: Lunar Aries are known to be emotionally responsive and impulsive at times, as they lead with fiery passions over than logic or reason.
Leo Rising: Leo ascendants bask in the glow of sunlight, radiating positivity and charm. Performers through and through, those with this friendly, radiant, and outgoing placement exude confidence and strength.
Enneagram Type: 3w2 [The Enchanter]
Basic Fear: Enneagram type three wing twos are afraid of failing and being unworthy of love. They avoid this by setting and accomplishing goals, in order to feel successful and worthy.
Basic Desire: Their basic desire is to be admired and accepted. They seek value through accomplishment, which may push them deeper into their work.
Enchanters tend to adjust their persona to their audience, in order to feel as though they are easily liked, which may lead to playing a character rather than being themselves.
Moral Alignment Type: Neutral Evil [The Malevolent]
These characters are strictly self-serving, doing whatever suits their needs without any regard for order or chaos.
The best/favorite that ‘70s show ship
Red/Kitty
Jackie/Hyde
Eric/Donna
Jackie/Michael
Michael/Laurie
Fez/Michael
Donna/Casey
Hyde/Samatha
Michael/Brooke
Jackie/Fez
Bob/Jo
Bob/Midge