#queer?

[mishapenconsequences]

queer

Possibly

[its-arthropod-time]

right, so now back to heartstopper actually.

everyone can like/dislike whatever they want.

but a lot of the hate towards heartstopper that ive seen has pissed me off confused me (im gonna say confused but that's not really accurate [obviously])

is it cringe?

absolutely, it's about teenagers in school.

think of a show about teens in school that isn't cringe, i promise you there isnt one.

you find the show cringy? completely fine

but ive seen people say that its cringe when nick's sexuality is improperly labeled and he corrects them (huh? 😧)

what do you want him to do exactly? go along with it?

im queer—if someone calls me cis or straight, im going to correct them.

and i feel like him having to repeat himself so often is meant to be commentary on bi-erasure

to call that cringe is a choice. not a good one, but a choice nonetheless.

in a sense i see what people mean, but i wouldn't say that i cringe at what he says because he's saying it

i do cringe.

because the fact that people are assuming and labeling him is cringy.

the fact that he has to correct so many people elicits a feeling of second hand embarrassment in me because—in my personal experience—having to correct people like that feels embarrassing.

shameful even, sometimes.

especially when you then have to explain your identity to someone, which nick has had to do several times

so if you think that nick stating that he's bisexual when people incorrectly label him as gay is cringe, im judging you severely 🤨 because that sounds a little like biphobia to me

ive also seen people

idek how to find the words* for this

[*edit: found 'em 👍]

acting as if they have a size kink*?

[*and that's a hella fucking weird thing to suggest btw. especially unprompted. who is it we're talking abt having a size kink again? 🧐]

they talk like that's even a facet of their relationship

when its really, really not

like first of all, neither of them have ever mentioned their size difference, in a sexual way or otherwise. (at least in the show, not familiar w the comics)

TW: ed mention

and second, charlie has an eating disorder, i dont think he would be thinking about size in a kinky sexy way

people talk abt charlie like hes a pick me and if that's the hill youre dying on, i frankly dont think youve watched enough of the show to have an opinion. (said with love 🫶😁)

people talk about him like hes a stereotype, when they are literally watering him down to suit their narrative*.

[*i.e. stereotyping him. thought we didn't like that? 🧐 pretty sure that last i checked stereotyping people was bad. could be wrong. im not]

he does fit the archetype of a gay nerd in terms of physicality [and sexuality obvs] but some people will fit aspects of a stereotype, theres nothing wrong with that. what is wrong is to define someone by a stereotype completely.

cant believe i have to say this, but everyone is different*.

[*✨🌈✨ this is meant to be like the "the more you know" gif]

no one embodies the entirety of a stereotype. not one single person, not a group of people.

and i feel like chalking charlie up to just be a gay stereotype could be considered homophobic*

[*fun fact: it is actually! 😁]

charlie isnt weak—he doesnt need protection from nick, he doesnt want protection from nick. he isnt dependent* or reliant on him.

[*they do have a codependency problem but thats an unrelated can of worms. and this is actually a bottle of soy sauce, not a can of anything. jsyk. i think that im funny]

the fact that he wouldnt open up is quite literally a major plot point. throughout the entire show charlie's trying to protect nick. from being outed and bullied, from experiencing what he did, feeling what he felt, feeling what he still feels. tries to protect nick by hiding his problems so that he wont worry*

[*doesnt work but it's the thought that counts. not just talking abt nick and charlies situation btw]

god forbid a gay man is skinny and mentally ill and his boyfriend happens to be buff

i feel like sometimes people just try to find something to nitpick about or make fun of in queer media, even other lgbt+ people

im not saying that you have to like it, not at all

that was not the point of this

you watched it and disliked it? great*

[*not in an angry/sarcastic way, im being fr]

you didn't watch it and dont want to? great*

[*also fr]

im not trying to convince people its good or convince people to watch it

i just need people hating on heartstopper to come up with better* reasons why.

[*by "better" i dont mean you need a solid reason to dislike it, make it smth nonsensical and inconsequential]

preferably not ones that come off as queerphobic.

you dont like it bc you dont like one of the actors? i dont care*

[*once again, in a genuine way. when i am saying this in my head as im typing it my voice does not sound mad. promise. its very light and airy. and probably high-pitched bc i default to customer service mode when talking to strangers]

you dont like teen romance? great, i dont* really either

[*this show has once again sparked the age old question(s): am i ace and/or aro? or am i overthinking it? learn more at www.ithoughtihadthisshitfiguredoutwhattheactualfuck.edu. yeah, .edu. it's a very reputable source.]

you just dont like the relationship dynamics of the characters? nice, i dont care*

[*see previous notes]

just dont have stupid reasons

like you hate that the bisexual character clarifies that he's bi when called gay

or

you dont like the gay guy because he's not gay in the way you want him to be

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[starrylighter]

Just a quick reminder that this is an actual part of The Hobbitt

(ik it wasn't intentional, but hear me out)

[letterbetter13]

What do you call cigarettes?? 🧐🧐

And Mike Wheeler

Gay?

[lonelylittledot]

one can only be a basic bitch for so long

[anarchist-bean]

Thoughts on Lilly Bushnell, LillyAnarKitty

I haven’t seen anything about Bushnell’s sexuality in their social media history. Therefore I have not speculated anything about their sexuality.

NOTE: Sexuality and Gender Identity are two very different things!

On the other hand, we have seen a history of commenting about trans topics, and regardless of what their identity was. Nobody can say for 100% certain, but I do believe that “LillyAnarKitty” meant something significant to Bushnell.

I could absolutely understand not coming out and/or self-identifying as cis, especially when she/he made such massive sacrifice to make the world fight for a Free Palestine. And as I trans person, I know if I had done the same thing it wouldn’t have had the same resonance because of my gender identity.

A trans woman self-immolated last year (2023), yet she’s barely even been mentioned. We don’t even know her name. And I think Aaron was well aware of the silencing and disregard that would’ve followed had they done this as Lilly.

Do you think maybe, just maybe, a potentially closeted-queer person intending to do the same would consider that and decide to just say they were cis so the word could be spread — without the transmisogyny attached?

Links/Sources:

Assigned Media Article referencing the Gender Transition in the AirForce comment thread

Other individuals that have interacted with Aaron online in servers prior to her passing have also stated that she had been introduced to them as “Lilly” and requested to be referred to by (she/he) pronouns. (Source)

[ivejustbeenthinking]

Do you guys ever feel so confident that you can pull another fem girl and just flirt hard core then later have to remind yourself that she is probably not queer in the slightest and she was probably offput bc you live in the bible belt but also you are fem and somebody might also assume you are not queer either so tell me do you think this girl i was flirting with is queer or not

#wlw #queer? #iamgaypleaseflirtwithme #biblebelt #women #fem

#goodomens #aziracrow