Why try and worsen "the male loneliness epidemic" when it's a current right-wing talking point and the right-wing is using this male loneliness "crisis" to suggest their politics as solutions?
If the right-wingers are combating a real or imagined health issue (e.g. loneliness, a mental health issue), you bragging how you make that health worse in the name of feminism? No help to women. Sorry.
A few Tumblr users like yourself having thoughts like this won't hurt anyone, but if the 4B movement takes off and publicly brags that they hurt other for political reasons, this means the right won't even have to fabricate claims. The public will learn about those intentions straight from you talking about it. No one is distorting your views, those are your views. And that's my problem because the right will make me seem like that movement much more famous than myself.
This is honestly worse than when progressives ignored what happened to thousands of girls in Rotherham and Sheffield, or how Tumblr handled statistics on the opioid crisis. In those cases people were at least ignoring information they were uncomfortable with, but with 4B, people are clearly not just ignoring human suffering, but getting excited about causing it.
I totally agree nobody is entitled to a relationship or children or a marriage or other people's bodies. That doesn't mean that a political ambition of ignoring and sidelining people and making them lonely on purpose is a plan that coherently fits into a wider liberation.
What's the underlying fantasy here?
Either it's the idea that all men deserve it. Or the idea that bad men deserve it and good men (or non-bad men) need to awaken from apathy to help women.
All men deserve it? That contradicts all complaints of the 4B movement. I mean, if all men deserve it, they all deserve it no matter how they behave. If how they behave doesn't matter, why is 4B complaining?
4B advocates might answer: the protest never ends, men are irredeemable, the protest itself is an intimidation tactic that makes men a little less awful, but it never fully succeeds. But here's how that reads to anyone with experience in observing political movements. Not in a cool "we are doomed but fight anyway" kind of way and more in a "we don't know what we are actually fighting against, we haven't tried planning for a successful political future where men behave better. We don't have concrete political goals, we will protest with the vaguest goals of men changing because we pressure them and we will pursue that strategy forever." Which lets be real doesn't sound very invested in having a better life and doesn't sound nearly as cool as fighting a doomed fight because the alternative is worse...because if you fight a doomed fight but can't be bothered with actual movement-building beyond hyping people up to punish others, you're just building the ideal justification for a right-wing administration to crush you and use any threat you pose as a justification to curtail your future rights and freedoms.
But wait! Maybe the 4B hates all men because all men are bad men BUT unlike your South Korean colleagues you want men to become women! YAAAY! Now as a wlw and trans woman myself, I can deeply appreciate women. But that's not what 4B mainly hates about men. A "bad man" is by definition something else than a man as a general category. A bad man is bad for reasons. If you can't trust the idea that men can deserve not being called bad men, if you can't ever trust any man anywhere to be better than that... then those are actually additional political goals your movement needs. Those are goals you have left out of your political pamphlets by accident(?). Goals such as creating the conditions for building trust (exploring how to figure out how to determine what individual men can do to become trustworthy) and goals like how to improve men's behaviour so they aren't bad men. If you don't believe that bad men can ever become good men, please re-read the previous paragraph to make sure your concerns have not actually already been covered.
But wait again! What if 4B's underlying fantasy is to punish all men for the crimes of bad men, so that good men will stand up for what's right, then how will that work if those good men are currently lonely and miserable? Is lonely misery a good starting point for taking positive action? When you are at your low point in life and just wallow in misery lying in bed, is this your most productive moment? And are bad men actually "lonely", do bad men only keep female company? Will the bad men accept your punishment and willingly unfollow Andrew Tate?
Keep these things in mind before you allow the 4B movement to tease the tiger and cause a massive misogynistic backlash against all feminism. You can't hate yourself into a better place and you can't hate others into a better place either.
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