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about the narrator of radiant star.
obvious question: who is it? the narration really brings attention to the narrator. it's non-normative to the point of being distracting. hard to avoid asking this.
okay, so if the narration is raising this question for the reader, it needs to be for a reason. both the answer to the question (the identity of the narrator) and the reason the question is being raised (rather than the identity just being told to us in a straightforward way early on in the story) should be serving the story in some way.
interlude to say with many other authors i might stop at this point and go, well, the author just liked this narrative style. she didn't think about it that hard. it's not that deep. but because i've read the raven tower i know this author knows how to do narration. i know she knows how to use style as a tool to serve themes, plot, pacing, &c. and because i know that, i spent the whole book waiting for the mystery of the narrator to pay off. and it did not explicitly obviously pay off for me at the end of the book, but I Want To Believe. so let's make it pay off.
let's talk first about the information we do have about the narrator that could be used to narrow down possible candidates. observations about this narrator:
uses the singular first person (i/me/my rather than we/us/our)
is not ooioiaan, but professes to a personal familiarity with ooioiaa. also is not radchaai but again is personally familiar
addresses the reader directly. the reader is supposed to be neither ooioiaan nor radchaai
has a high degree of knowledge about each of the characters and their actions over the course of the story. knows in detail about an event involving several of the characters that happened days before the radchaai arrived on the planet
is writing centuries after the events of the story (it is able to say "it would be centuries before any governor of Aaa actually dropped any association with the Radchaai, at least in name" (last chapter))
doesn't say anything about the source of their knowledge of the events of the plot. was the narrator there? did they talk to the people involved? we don't know
does at times profess to not knowing something or only being able to speculate. which is very interesting. it would be much easier to handwave and say "how the narrator knows what a character is feeling when they're alone in their apartment is something we're supposed to suspend disbelief over" if the narrator did not explicitly tell us they aren't omniscient. but since the narrator does tell us that, we have to find an answer that explains how the narrator both a) knows the things that they know and b) doesn't know the things that they don't know.
so the narrator must meet two criteria: they must fit the seven observations above, and there must be a compelling reason for the author to choose to tell the story from their perspective specifically. and then also there must be a compelling reason for the author to not tell us that they are the narrator.
i don't think the narrator can be someone completely outside the story, and i will try to explain why. let's say i speculate that the narrator is a scholar or journalist who was in ooioiaa on some kind of field assignment in the aftermath of the radchaai civil war, and they're writing for an audience of folks back home in the non-radch system they originated in. they got their information by conducting extensive interviews with charak, zaved, jonr, niranhin, iono, shtel, justice of albin, and several others. perhaps they even have access to some technology that allows them to experience other people's memories. and let's say keemat's writings (available posthumously along with, or perhaps included in, their manuscript) elucidate much, but not all, of keemat's experience of that period. and somehow this narrator then ended up in a suspension pod for 200 years, giving them knowledge about both the immediate aftermath and centuries later.
okay, such a narrator i think would account for all seven of my observations above. but if this were the narrator...what would be the point? what would the existence of such a narrator bring to the story? AND why would the identity of such a narrator be kept a secret and the reader be made to puzzle it out? is THAT doing anything for the story? i can't think of a way for the answers to these questions to be satisfying, if the narrator is some random external perspective that didn't have anything to do with the people and events with which the story is concerned.
like, you can either have a prologue like "here is my history dissertation. signed, Some Rando" OR you can be all coy about a narrator who we actually do know and should theoretically be able to put together the evidence to identify. but you cannot both be coy AND have the narrator be some rando. not if you are a writer with such a deep understanding of the power of narration as a story tool that you are capable of writing the raven tower. if such a writer is going to draw attention to the narration, it has to be for a reason. not just, "this style is fun to write and read", but a reason that is native to the story, that serves the story, that exemplifies the story. when such a writer throws some narration at me that is waving a flag saying look at me look at me, i'm looking at it, and i have faith that there is going to be a reason she made me look at it. i'm assuming it's going to pay off. and for it to pay off, by the end of the book i have to be able to go "ohhhhh, so that's why the identity of the narrator was such a mystery." and having it be some rando historian does not elicit that reaction.
so then we're looking at existing characters. the only two characters i can think of that would have access to the kind of knowledge the narrator seems to have are justice of albin and the radiant star. this author has previously written books from the perspective of a troop carrier AI and a god, so there's precedent for either. (not that she could not also write a book from the perspective of a brand-new type of entity. she has the range.)
i would need to reread ancillary justice to refresh my memory on what aspects of a non-ancillary's experience a justice has access to - it can read vital signs, but can it read thoughts? and is that only for its officers, or also for annexed populations? and what can ancillaries access when the ship is away? because if the access an ancillary has to the interior experience of humans differs significantly depending on whether it's in contact with its ship-self, then we should be able to trace a change in the quality of the narration (level of detail, or degree of certainty) at the point when the ship leaves the system. or we need some way for the justice to access that information retroactively after it returns. well, we kind of need that anyway, to explain how the narrator knows about jonr's meetings with zaved and niranhin that happened days before the radchaai showed up...
what about the radiant star? we don't know enough about it to say what the bounds of its knowledge are, or if it is capable of observation and of in some way recording its thoughts to share with humans. (maybe it used the intermediary of a savant? a savant who had a shitton of unusually coherent visions?) this would be such a big swing that i feel it would also need to be made explicit if this were the narrator. because how else would we come to understand the significance of having this specific entity be the narrator? we need to know more about both the radiant star itself and about why the hell it would be telling this story to this audience in order for it to be an effective storytelling choice. and there would also need to be some reason for the mystery surrounding the narrator's identity. like, if the story were more concerned with whether the radiant star really exists or is really divine, having the narrator turn out to be the possibly-nonexistent possibly-mundane entity in question would have some bearing on the story. but the story doesn't really care about that. really the only reason i'm even entertaining this is the book's title. which is not sufficient reason.
so i end up thinking the only possible candidate is justice of albin. and then we return to my original questions. if JoA is the narrator, 1) what purpose does it serve to have this particular story told by this particular entity? and 2) what purpose does it serve to hold the identity of the narrator back from the reader? because remember, these questions were raised by the author, by the author's choice to include these asides written in first person to a particular demographic of in-universe readers. if the author is raising these questions, answering them should add something to our understanding of the story she is trying to tell.
justice of albin is an interesting component of the story because the narrator rarely mentions it, yet we can assume it is often present. no part of the story covers anything that happens on the ship when it leaves aaa. the experience of JoA is not given any priority in the narrative. the story does not seem to be about JoA, and it is easy to forget about it altogether, because in a story that shares the interiority of probably dozens of characters, from main characters down to the shopkeeper who sells food to jonr, JoA's internal motivations and reactions are almost a complete black box until the very end - and not in such a way to lead the reader to think, "wow, JoA is sooo mysterious," but rather in such a way that it fades into the background. the experience of JoA might actually be, in retrospect, too deprioritized in comparison to everyone else. if any other character were present as often as JoA, would we know more about them than we do about it? is the narrator keeping back information, just about this one entity? perhaps because it is that entity and it values its own privacy? or because it is trying to be a neutral third party and not inject itself into the situation it wants to report on dispassionately?
OR, perhaps, because it wanted us not to think of JoA as a person, so that we would understand how terrifying that laugh at the end was for the other characters? so that we would have to abruptly adjust our own conception of it as soon as we were given external evidence of its interiority? so that we would then have to sit with our own complicity in not thinking of it as a person before, when we were given what may have seemed like the opposite of evidence of interiority (repeated references to its "flat, expressionless" affect) and only a handful of clues that it does indeed have motivations other than obeying orders (remorse for stealing jonr's collection; stealing the images of radiance and lying about it)? especially when the narrator, in all their little asides to the reader, was so charming, so full of insight and sympathy and irony?
this is to me the best evidence for the identity of the narrator. nothing else comes close to retroactively reframing anything in the way that that laugh does. that would explain why the identity of the narrator was held back - it was to create that moment of recontextualization.
i have two problems with this. 1) i don't know that having this aha moment about ships/ancillaries/AIs/justice of albin being people is really hugely relevant to the themes of this book? like, it's certainly not irrelevant. i think the idea of what a person is (and how oppression interacts with personhood) is relevant in all of leckie's writing. but i don't know that i would say it is the main thing happening here. and 2) i think if you have read the ancillary trilogy, you are already going around thinking of JoA as, like, an analogue to breq. and you surely already think of breq as a person. so it is actually not that shocking to get to this reveal, which defeats the entire purpose of it. and maybe that's why i got to the end of this book and still didn't know who the narrator was...because that wasn't really an aha moment for me. maybe it wasn't supposed to be? maybe it was supposed to be enough for me to see how unnerved the radchaai characters were by it and how incapable they were of wrapping their minds around it. but that wasn't quite enough for me to make the mystery pay off.
or maybe i was supposed to get something else out of JoA being the narrator, but it went over my head? curious if others have thoughts on this.
the last thing i'll mention is the chapter titles, which are presumably (?) chosen by the narrator. another thing that's not revealed until near the end is that each chapter is named after one of the images of radiance. this could i suppose be evidence in favor of the radiant star as narrator, but it seems better evidence for JoA, who, after all, is the one who currently possesses the original version of the images. given the chapters are labeled with the contents of one of its collections, could we also think of the story itself as a collection of JoA's?
THANK YOU for writing these thoughts, OP! This is such an interesting question and I'm so grateful to you for moving my thinking forward on it in so many ways. I agree that JoA is by far the most likely candidate, and I'd love to play with you in this space, if I may!
The narration is SO expressive, and it is so concerned with the nuances of people’s motivations for their actions. There’s lots of examples for this— the clarity around the water filtration problem being no one’s fault, the delicacy with which the savants are allowed to be both politically shrewd and devout, the way that Jonr is kind to his consoror because of true loyalty but also Radchaai reeducation programing and ALSO Consorority of the Translocation training. And yet, you’re right, JoA’s perspective is almost conspicuously absent, even though it clearly has a point of view that affects events. If JoA is the narrator, perhaps it is engaged in some self-deception here. It examines and places significance on all the motivations of others, but it does not categorize itself as an actor. We see Breq do this in places as well— she hides how she really feels, and, to some extent, how much power she really has, from herself. And this self-obfuscation, this refusal to interrogate its own conflicting motivations and limits, IS I think relevant to the central themes. So in my mind, it’s not so much that the reader is meant to assume that JoA doesn’t have an interiority until we see it free, it’s that we’re meant to wonder what would drive JoA to deny or obfuscate its own interiority even in its own retelling until it is freed.
Thank you both for the great analysis! I don't have time to fully engage with everything that has been said so I just want to add a few things:
My initial theory also was Justice of Albis based primarily on the fact that the narrator tells us a) nobody knows where the Images of Radiance are because b) JoA has them. Obviously that means JoA does know where they are, and the narrator knows (even though "nobody knows") because they are JoA. Unfortunately that is undermined by the fact that later on Jonr and his consoror learn about this fact. Which widens the list of suspects slightly.
I don't think we necessarily have to assume that the narrator must be omniscient or have precise insights in to people's inner lives to qualify. I think it's fine to assume a certain degree of artistic license in what the narrator is saying. I do not think the narrator is lying on a factual level but nowhere does it claim that every thought or emotion is a precise reproduction of what every character is experiencing. It may be a narrativisation of real events with details filled in to create a story.
Governor Charak orders Justice of Albis to "blend in more", a plot element that I have seen readers wondering about the significance of. It is not directly relevant to the plot, but it would provide more justification for JoA ancillaries to observe events of the story without their presence being explicitly acknowledged.
It is my personal reading of the story that we are not supposed to know whether the Radiant Star is real or not. I think that is what the juxtaposition of Jonr's and Keemat's visions is supposed to tell us. Religion in the story is a social phenomenon that is real because its believers follow it and act accordingly (and same for its disbelievers). The narrator actually reinforces the idea that both cynical instrumentalisation of religion are real and happening in the story and also at the same time not contradictory with sincere belief. This theme would be undermined if the Radiant Star was the narrator, so in addition to the reasons given above I don't (want to) believe it.
With these reasons I am strongly convinced that the narrator is Justice of Albis. However. Here is my argument for a wildcard alternative:
Jonr and Charak's cousin (aka Jonr's consoror)'s story arc is largely irrelevant for the events of the story. They do not cause it and they (almost) do not contribute to its resolution. It stands apart from the political and religious machinations that drive the remainder of the plot. Their only interaction is that they spur Keemat into action, but then again Keemat's sainthood is more of an afterthought to the resolution of the crisis than a necessary component.
As I mention above, Jonr and his consoror are aware of the location of the Images of Radiances, one of the few people who do based on the words of the narrator themself.
Charak's cousin's identity itself is a mystery being raised by the story and never answered. This is another plot thread that would be unsatisfying unless it is connected to something else.
Hence my theory: Jonr's consoror is either a fragment of Anaander Miaanai or another person who had Miaanai's consciousness forced upon them, similar to Lieutenant Tisarwat. Given the traumatic experience it has been shown to be, I would lean towards the latter.
We don't know what happens to this character or what their eventual outlook is going to be. We don't even know if the Miaanai consciousness will evolve in the future and what shape it is going to take. I think it is conceivable for this character to survive centuries into the future (and we have seen mechanisms to skip a few centuries with Seivarden anyways). I think the characterisation above as "familiar with Ooioiaa and Chenala but not of Ooioiaa and Chenala" would fit her background quite well as well.
I really love this post and the discussion and some of the excellent tags in the notes especially the ones arguing for the Radiant Star as the narrator! It's really woken my brain up and got me thinking about this book more deeply.
I'd like to contribute the idea that the narrator is deliberately ambiguous as part of a theme of unanswered questions. "Is the Radiant Star real" being the most obvious one, but also "who commissioned Jonr and why," "what happened to the Governor's cousin," "if the Radiant Star is real, why did it care about Jonr and not all the other dying people," and even "what happened to Iono's jurist".
It's got me thinking about how the story we get is more a collection of analyses than an epic narrative, and how JoA is a collector, but in a way so is the Radiant Star. And in a way the story we're given is like a reading of the Images of Radiance- we can interpret meaning from it how we like, but we'll never fully understand the intention behind it.
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the biohazard symbol really was a winner. that thing looks scary
Yep, not touching that.
As much as I think it would be fun to have emotive anthropomorphic ears, I also recognize I can barely control my facial expressions. Like hell can I keep from Angry Ears-ing during meetings
This is who you’re having a meeting with, by the way.
5001 being divisible by 3 doesnt feel right
Shortcuts to determine if an integer is divisible by:
This is a given.
If the last digit is divisible by 2 (a.k.a. even), then so is the whole number.
If the sum of the digits is divisible by 3, then so is the whole number. The recursivity of this means that if the sum has multiple digits, you can add them up again until you get a single digit and see if it's 3, 6, or 9.
Like the rule for 2, but check if the last two digits are divisible by 4.
If it ends in 5 or 0.
If the rules for both 2 and 3 apply.
No shortcut. Alas.
Like the rules for 2 and 4, but check if the last three digits are divisible by 8. (Yes, this pattern keeps going for 16, 32, etc.)
Like the rule for 3, but the sum of the digits (or the sum of the sum of the digits, etc.) must be 9.
If it ends in 0.
#THIS POST IS WRONG 7 DOES HAVE A RULE FOR HOW TO TELL IF THE NUMBER IS DIVISIBLE#it's just. not a short cut#you're better off dividing it and seeing if you get a whole number than doing the method
but what IS the rule @anqelbean ???
Okay, so, basically, you remove the least important digit of the number (which is the first digit from the right), you double it, and then subtract it from the remaining number. If the number you get is still large, you do it again.
For example, 294
29 4
4×2=8
29-8=21
21 is divisible by 7
Second example, 1946
194 6
6×2=12
194-12=182
182 is still large, so let do it again
18 2
2×2=4
18-4=14
14 is divisible by 7
Returning to 5001, it will feel better if you reflect that it's just 6000 (clearly divisible) minus 999 (also clearly divisible)
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ps/2 ports turned out perfect for turning into ear studs
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I KNOW HOW THE DEVILS GOT TO THE NINTH
Y’all know that theory that devils are souls that have been used to fuel a resurrection? John saying Harrow’s parents committed a resurrection, Cytherea calling herself the vengeance of the ten billion, Teacher saying there are ten billion angry ghosts in the facility.
The devils attacking the Ninth are not the ten billion. They’re the two hundred. The children whose souls Priamhark and Pelleamena used to fuel Harrow's conception.
Now, you may have noticed Harrow’s parents committed their resurrection nineteen years ago, and as of yet nobody in the Ninth House has sprouted long black tongues and eyelids with teeth. So why now?
In Harrow the Ninth, as Varun approaches the Mithraeum, the River empties of ghosts. Augustine says that ghosts flee before a Resurrection Beast. “Poor bastards are terrified.” And the Ninth House has a Resurrection Beast in the basement.
But then she leaves.
Alecto leaves the Tomb, leaves her body behind, and rides her connection to Harrow into Harrow’s body. And now there’s no slumbering planetary revenant to ward off the devils, so back they come. The very next time some Ninth geezer keels over, the devils take the wheel and it begins.
The devils didn’t come to the Ninth. They were already there. They were born there, and they died there. Priamhark and Pelleamena slaughtered two hundred children to save their House, and in so doing damned it.
one for sorrow, two for joy
three for a girl, four for a boy
five for tradition and fuck wait hold on
one for sorrow, two for the show
wednesday’s child is full of woe
four for fidelity, facing ahead
so, a needle pulling thread
six for the six proud walkers I think??
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Nonfat dry milk (NFDM)
Hand-foot-and-douth misease (HFDM)
Caden's FtM
We were talking about a friend we know as BJ who now goes by Brian (he goes by a different name that starts with B) and how time and tide change us all and my child was like
“Why did he change his name?”
“Oh BJ is how people refer to something else and he found it kind of embarrassing.”
“What does BJ refer to?”
My spouse laughed and said “that was an unforced error, sweetheart.”
“Nah, I got this.” I said, “Bud, it’s a romance thing.”
“Oh.” he said, immediately losing interest “why was the ice cream at the restaurant inside a skin?”
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