he's a dumb gay bitch

it's the fandom alt blog oh no

[wineinthewind]

nico absolutely has a faint scar on his neck from when percy held him at sword point in the underworld.

[dirixxarsn]

moral disagreement on when its acceptable to kill aside, its the way bruce deemed the joker more worthy of redemption and second chances than jason. i know that absolutely wasnt intentional on bruces part, but by choosing neither and therefore in a roundabout way choosing the joker, it feels like he saw the joker as the victim of that situation and he saw the joker as more likely to be redeemable in comparison so he prioritized saving him over jason uughhhh

[littlemissonewhoisall]

I think a lot of people who haven't read Batgirl (2000) and only know Cass from her appearances in other characters' books or online summaries miss something very essential about the root of why she's such a good fighter.

Yes, Cassandra was trained in martial arts from birth, learning from some of the deadliest assassins and mercenaries in the world. But that was not the core of what David Cain was doing with her, nor is it the real root of what makes her so dangerous. People who were raised from childhood by assassins to be dangerous fighters are not particularly uncommon in the DCU. Even in the Bat Family alone, Damian, Jean-Paul, and Helena were all trained to be assassins from childhood. The reason why Cass is still presented as a much better fighter than them isn't inconsistency though, it's because their training lacked something very important.

Cass wasn't an apprentice or an heir to David, nor was she a weapon to accomplish his agenda. She was first and foremost a science experiment. David didn't have a kid and decide "now I'm going to make you into a killer like me". He had a child specifically for the purpose of having a blank slate of a person that he could use to test his theories about the role of human body language in combat.

Yes, she was trained to fight. Yes, he planned on having her go on assassination missions. But these were ways to prove his concept, not an end unto themselves. David was convinced that if someone's entire development was influenced by communicating solely through body language that their brain would develop so that they were more adept at combat than any normal person could actually learn, regardless of their level of training, and he was right*!

Cass has mastered a bunch of combat styles, at least offensively, but she's also able to pick up new styles almost instantly, and react defensively against skilled opponents without needing any technical knowledge of defensive styles. She can coordinate and react far more efficiently than is humanly possible for anyone else, because her brain just works differently due to the unusual circumstances of her development. THAT'S what makes her an unparalleled* fighter, not her level of training.

*Shiva being an aberration which should not be counted

[lazypiratesofaking]

Uh. Shiva left her kid to this psychological fuck up so she can die by its hands. I would not call her mother of the year or good parent.

Wait. Why is Shiva an aberration?

[thebestusernamepossible]

1.) Shiva’s a deadbeat but tbh out of Cass’s 4 parental figures she’s probally #2 (LOW bar). Shiva agreed to have Cass under threat of death, back when she wasn’t strong enough to take on the league like that and win. Let me be clear- she was raped/coerced to give David (the man that KILLED HER SISTER) the baby he wanted.

2.) the new batgirl 2024 run covers their complex and interesting relationship extensively (100% recommend and every sole Cass fan I know- including myself- LOVES it!!!) She’s not a GOOD parent- don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending that. But she is NO WHERE NEAR CAIN in bad levels. Hell she’s no where near BRUCE level bad in the damage he did to Cass. Again, not saying she’s #1 parental figure to Cass at ALL (That’s Babs).

3.) Shiva is an aberration because in Batgirl (2000) she’s the one who reteaches Cass how to read body language after she loses it (brain got rewired for speech by meta, and fucked Cass UP and caused a lot of issues). Shiva too, can read body language like Cass does (though Cass is implied to be better at it once she gets back in her groove and defeats Shiva in a fight). But Shiva HAS reached that level through her training, and she does parallel Cass in fighting ability, so shes an outlier.

[moon-ayyye]

I love Jason custody battle AU's where like 20 different people claim to be his parent.

Like, you've got a face off between Willis Todd, Talia al Ghul, and Nocturna. You wanna get freaky with it, then put Shiva, too.

You know how people on survivor type shows usually agree to gang up on one person to get them out of there? That's Bruce.

[the-horatio-of-layers]

Talia, Nocturna and Shiva engaged in a bloody custody battle while two fake Willis Todd's who both think they're the real one try to lure Jason to them with treats like he's a stray cat. Harvey Dent is bodily holding Bruce back.

[tomkingisaracistnepobaby]

(Crucially, Shiva doesn't particularly want a child. She heard "battle", and showed up for the love of the game.)

[movalise]

He was so funny for this

[laufire]

@cleromancy look 👀

[dickgreyson]

I think jason would be taking like college level philosophy classes to put bruce in increasingly complex and morally/emotionally/existentially eviscerating trolley problem type situations

[dickgreyson]

hes jerking it to foucault discipline and punish

[warrior-of-storms]

Sometimes I think about the fact that Jason a) was right next to Donna when she almost accidentally flew into the twin towers, b) died in 1988, and c) came back in 2005. Do you think at some point during Lost Days he had to go through airport security and got very confused? Does Jason know about 9/11?

[warrior-of-storms]

Jason during Brothers in Blood: Oh hey, while I have you here anyway-

Dick, who would like to be anywhere else right now: You don't

Jason: -what happened to New York? Like, the skyline looks off. Obviously the Tower isn't there anymore, but it wasn't that visible to begin with-

Dick, having a startling realization & doing some quick math in his head: ...about that.

[batnotes]

YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE USSR IN THE TAGS

[kittykatninja321]

they’re canceling me for the way I deal with grief. Also for all the severed heads and the bombings and the racketeering and the

[lilacsandlillies]

Funniest part about Robin Jason canonically going to heaven is that it implies either 1) Jason didn’t kill Felipe and Bruce completely blew up their relationship for no reason or 2) you’re allowed in heaven after killing someone as long as that someone really deserved it, which would then imply that heaven itself is on Jason’s side in the Jason vs Bruce conflict.

[sang-i-fetge]

[phantomchick]

BEHOLD!!!!

The hyper-specific 'lost days Jason + pre-Lexcorp era Talia videogaming together' art I requested from @jejejijiju!!!

[arcade-confetti]

In a having boundaries with my hero identity competition and my opponent is jason todd

[autisticrosewilson]

Every time I think about fucking ETIENNE telling Rose she needs to get in touch with her "other half"? Telling ROSE "RAISED COMMUNALLY ON HER MULTICULTURAL ISLAND BY DISENFRANCHISED BROWN WOMEN IN CAMBODIA FOR 13 FUCKING YEARS" WILSON THAT SHE'S JUST WHITE ENOUGH????? THE CONCEPT OF THAT ROSE WILSON BEING OFFPUT BY AN INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIP????????????? I need a gun I need a bomb I'm pressing the big red button.

[heademptyjustptysie]

Batman with jaybin: -and thats how you shot the sniper rifle. You need to have this knowlege and it will be very useful

Batman with red hood: you dare to SHOOT AT PEOPLE?! How could you! I taught you better than this. Your parentage must be showing by this. With you being poor, and also a criminal at 10yo

[a-bad-case-of-the-stephs]

Rereading my BW The Road Home: Batgirl and I don’t think a single Bruce Wayne Batman panel inspires as much automatic rage as this one for me. Not only does he looks stupid as fuck he has the absolute nerve to be smug about it. I see that dumbass smirk. Genuinely accidentally fake your death again IDGAF. Goodbye. Fucking idiot. Leave her alone.

[a-bad-case-of-the-stephs]

Okayyyy I lied one last little thing about this. This is the first moment stephanie brown ever sees Bruce Wayne’s face in person. Just btw. In case anyone was wondering. Like shes seen photos of Bruce almost certainly and she’s worked directly by Batman’s side for months and months but this exact panel (where he looks DUMB AS FUCK) is genuinely the first time she’s ever actually seen his face.

[arrow-ettes]

thought I'd try my hand at this format

[casscainmainly]

DUKE IS NOT NAMED AFTER THE BAT SIGNAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE TOOK THE NAME BECAUSE OF HIS MOM NOT BECAUSE OF STUPID BRUCE WAYNE

[casscainmainly]

ALSO I dislike when the name Signal is collapsed into being just about him patrolling in the daytime or his powers because ultimately Signal is about his philosophy. It's about wanting to be a hero like his mom, to be a knight and a force against darkness, to be the first on the battlefield signifying both a belief in personal responsibility and a desire to be a symbol for his community. TO BE SIGNAL IS TO BE A SIGN OF THE FUTURE, A HERALD OF THE ONCOMING DAWN!!!!