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Tumblr is great because there are people who without a hint of irony will essentially say “being mean is a fundamental part of my ideology” and expect you to respect that
Many trans men and transmascs are into BL and many are into Yaoi. That should not be a big surprise.
As gender dysphoria goes, many of them expressed dysphoria, envy or a feeling of longing for being in a gay relationship. Also not a big surprise.
Of course the relationships portrayed in media like that are unrealistic. It's anything from romance to porn and none of that is ever realistic. Almost anyone who consumes media like that will know it. It is of course ok to educate people, especially when talking about media that portrays deeply unhealthy relationship dynamics. I am not criticising that.
What I dislike about most responses to posts of trans men and transmasculine people expressing their feelings on media featuring gay men is the transandrophobia, condescention and infantilisation that is often present in the answers.
"Oh, no real gay man likes stuff like that",
"It's just made by women for women to fetishise gay men, if you consume media like this, you're basically a woman anyway and you're hurting gay men".
"It's so unrealistic, real gay men know that it's fake"
As if gay trans men and transmascs were not really gay and/or not really men. Many of such comments exist. Many of them are made by other queer people and most importantly, made by people who should know better. The harmful and bigoted belief that people suddenly turn trans to fetishise especially gay men not only exists, it is commonly pushed by TERFs and other transphobes. And it annoys me most when it's other trans men and transmascs talking like that. None of that is helpful, empathetic or even ok to say when someone expresses feelings of dysphoria.
Sincerely, fuck off if you have nothing nice or helpful to say and stop treating gay trans men and transmascs as if we are delusional teenage girls. Also, if you're already working on that, treat teenage girls better too.
reblogs one post about transfeminism
Tumblr: YOU MUST HATE TRANS MEN, HERE'S A POST ABOUT HATING TRANS MEN BY SOMEONE WHO DESPISES THEM!
men who can get pregnant are treated worse than women who can get pregnant and if you disagree then youre not an ally to trans or intersex people. its that simple.
"I'd like to start a small project raising awareness of sexual assault, coercion, harassment, and other similar behaviors toward trans men and others TME (transmisogyny exempt) by people TMA (transmisogyny affected)."
Yeah so this is lolcowing and fucked up and if you do this stay away from me like this is just weird and of course their taking sourceless ass ask about trans woman at their word and shaming people for kinks
Fuck this and fuck you for running this kinda blog, and anyone who follows me and also this blog can unfollow me because if I see SHIT from a blog with that bullshit as its pinned you WILL be blocked
i feel the need to reiterate this
the study that concluded trans women on average make less than trans men only took into account full-time jobs, meaning it ignored data from trans people in part time jobs. trans men are more than *twice* as likely as trans women to have part-time jobs, which basically by definition pay less than full-time jobs. from this study (sample size 27,000+ usamerican transgender people) which does include part-time jobs, trans men [in the united states on average] make about 30% less than trans women, which is a PRETTY BIG NUMBER to fuck up on a reporting decision don'tcha think
Peer reviewed tags:
data from larger studies consistently show trans women make more than trans men on average which doesn't have to mean anything no one has to have male privilege that's just being so locked in cisnormative thinking you can't imagine anything else “which one has male privilege?” it's like asking a lesbian couple which one is the man
you (and prev) are both entirely correct, the main point of this post is to debunk those fuckass posts about how trans men "Aren't seen as faggots in the eyes of the state" because one study with whack data collection says we make 10 cents more, not to say that transfems have secret evil male privilege (because they don't)
seeing young trans men saying how they feel so “validated” by people telling them to kill themselves because “at least they see me as a man” is actually so fucking sad. 15 year old trans boy you do not deserve to be treated like a monster because of the words you use for yourself and the goals you have for your body. you do not need to accept this kind of treatment from your own community in order to prove that you’re not a threat. you are a person. you are a person
you know i dont think it counts as actual discourse when one side is going "all trans people are oppressed in sometimes unique sometimes overlapping ways and we all can have complicated relationships to gender and privilege and lack thereof" and the other side is making up a bunch of bullshit that was never said in the first place because theyre obsessed with finding the next marginalized group they can prop themselves up on to deal with the crushing reality we live in
"trans men are both men and targets of misogyny."
"so youre misgendering yourself and clinging to your agab."
"no, trans men are most often treated like broken women and are percieved and enforced by society as such."
"see? transandrobros love talking about how much trans women are male socialized with male privilege, so they can be innocent little babies with glass bones and paper skin"
"no, trans women at any stage of transition are also othered and treated as broken, no trans person has access to-"
"so youre misgendering yourself and clinging to your agab against the big scary trans women"
like this is not discourse. this is a carousel. it is a self-sustaining feedback loop for people who wish desperately to feed their own persecution complexes. no matter how many disclaimers or written out essays or olive branches offered. this crowd does not care about transgender liberation, only to use their own oppression as an excuse to take everyone else down with them.
Like, this isn't discourse, this isn't even about non-trans women drawing trans women, this is about me wanting people to stop saying the only way a real woman could only ever possibly want to look like me is as a form of self-harm.
And wild too that people are like "you're making them think it isn't actually really easy to look like cis women" like okay miss fucking My Mom Works At Raytheon but a lot of people legitimately do not have the time, money, or any other favorable circumstance which would enable them to do look like cis women, so why don't you shut the fuck up about how they'll look like Gross Men until they can scrounge up the fat stack of resources for those things?
Do you get it? This is horrible even for trans women who want to pass!
Omggg making rape threats to trans men and spreading misinformation about their lives is literally infightingggg🥺🥺Why don't we all just hold hands and sing by the campfire and just be a community instead of this silly infighting!!! This queer DISCOURSE is so unecessary! Calling trans men slurs is literally queer discourse guys <3 I don't care at all about the trans men dealing with this behind the screen btw
*Puts on an extremely sarcastic voice*
Hello, my name is World's Most Privileged Trans Man, and I have some things to say about transandrophobia.
First of all, you trenders- I mean transandrobros, might not know this, but testosterone is soooo much more powerful than estrogen, so when you start T you pass instantly. I know this, because when I started T at 12 years old, I looked like all the other boys in my class, right after my first shot!
Also, abortion bans don't even affect us, because you can just get a hysterectomy. You should have been trying to get one anyway, since getting pregnant is only for women. If your insurance denies you, just have your parents pay for it like mine did!
I make a lot of money at my job where my colleagues make sexist jokes like I'm "one of the guys", and therefore so do you. I have never felt unsafe with a doctor or police officer, and therefore neither have you. I refuse to believe that anyone could have a different experience than me so they are just being a whiny baby, and I refuse to admit that being upper middle class, white, able bodied, and cis passing, might have a little more baring on my blissfully privileged life, rather than my True Male Soul
*Takes off my sarcastic voice*
This is how all these dudes sound to me, like, cool man, glad your life rules, this still does not accurately reflect the lived experience of 90% of trans men/mascs
if you told someone : "trans women are more likely to be seen as predatory and have to be careful in many interactions because their actions are likely to be seen in negative light"
and they removed the trans part and went: "no, women don't have to worry about being seen as predatory when interacting with people, either you are lying about that or you are not really a woman"
you would rightfully be pissed off
SO STOP REMOVING TRANS FROM TRANS MEN WHEN DISCUSSING ISSUES TRANS MEN FACE
just because this might make you all feel a bit better and some of us are scrolling this tag in despair unsure of who might end up being a transandrophobe despite their other values
i had a pride stall at my cities pride event, of which thousands turned up. plenty people went past my stall.
i had this one piece that said "bite transandrophobes" and until someone finally bought it it was my most picked up/looked at piece. so many people pointed it out smiling, showed their friends, said it was cool. and again someone did buy it, and another asked if instead i could make it again on a big canvas (the origional was an a6 postcard). not all of them were trans men/masc either, many had she/her pins and they/them pins, etc
the people at pride appreciated and loved the point. very happy to see so many people agree :) bite a transandrophobe!
transandrophobes may be loud but there are so many allys who love us, and they are proud of it
edit: 20 days and ive only just got a hate comment on this and zero hate asks :) we're doing pretty good, this is getting the positive response we needed!
I keep seeing this shit during pride month and honestly im starting to feel like it’s hopeless. it’s hard to feel empathy from others as a male SA survivor already and now im realizing that no one gives a fuck if we do get harmed edit: sorry i tend to post vents without context, poster uses they/them and is transfem from what i can see on the acc, not a cis woman as some comments are stating
Julia Serano heard one enban say "the binary is boring." and we've all been dealing with the fallout out for 2 decades
Wait what what did Julia do
She wrote Whipping girl where she coined the term "binaryphobia" which is just non binary people making jokes about how the binary is restrictive. She freaked out and wrote a book about it, which led to transradical feminism
we can have nuance and criticism of trans theorists, we can take some of the good (coining transmisogyny and oppositional sexism) and also understand that the text itself comes from a place of bigotry
sorry i gotta be a bitch again (with receipts). from Whipping Girl:
There are many different (but often overlapping) forms of gender entitlement and gender anxiety. The
It's kind of crazy to me that she brings biphobia (which has a lot of mirrors with exorsexism), doesn't mention anything about how some bisexuals think they are better than monosexuals and how that's monophobia), but when it comes to nonbinary people...
Anyways, worse than giving credence to "binary-phobia" is her concept of "subversivism" which is what we can trace directly to the exorsexist attitudes in scholars like Jules Gill-Peterson and Kadji Amin. gonna just copy this whole section:
The majority of experiences as a trans activist and spoken word artist have taken place in what is increasingly becoming known as the “queer/trans” community. It is a subgroup within the greater LGBTIQ community that is composed mostly of folks in their twenties and thirties who are more likely to refer to themselves as “dykes,” “queer,” and/or “trans” than “lesbian” or “gay.” While diverse in a number of ways, this subpopulation tends to predominantly inhabit urban and academic settings, and is skewed toward those who are white and/or from middle-class backgrounds. In many ways, the queer/trans community is best described as a sort of marriage of the transgender movement’s call to “shatter the gender binary” and the lesbian community’s pro-sex, pro-kink backlash to 1980s-era Andrea Dworkinism. Its politics are generally antiassimilationist, particularly with regard to gender and sexual expression. This apparent limitlessness and lack of boundaries lead many to believe that “queer/trans” represents the vanguard of today’s gender and sexual revolution. However, over the last four years in which I’ve been a part of this community, I’ve become increasingly troubled by a trend that, while not applicable to all queer/trans folks, seems to be becoming a dominant belief in this community, one that threatens to restrict its gender and sexual diversity. I call this trend subversivism. Subversivism is the practice of extolling certain gender and sexual expressions and identities simply because they are unconventional or nonconforming. In the parlance of subversivism, these atypical genders and sexualities are “good” because they “transgress” or “subvert” oppressive binary gender norms. The justification for the practice of subversivism has evolved out of a particular reading (although some would call it a misreading) of the work of various influential queer theorists over the last decade and a half. To briefly summarize this popularized account: All forms of sexism arise from the binary gender system. Since this binary gender system is everywhere—in our thoughts, language, traditions, behaviors, etc.—the only way we can overturn it is to actively undermine the system from within. Thus, in order to challenge sexism, people must “perform” their genders in ways that bend, break, and blur all of the imaginary distinctions that exist between male and female, heterosexual and homosexual, and so on, presumably leading to a systemwide binary meltdown. According to the principles of subversivism, drag is inherently “subversive,” as it reveals that our society’s binary notions of maleness and femaleness are not natural, but rather are actively “constructed” and “performed” by all of us. Another way that one can be “transgressively gendered” is by identifying as genderqueer or genderfluid—i.e., refusing to identify fully as either woman or man.
The notion that certain gender identities and expressions are inherently “subversive” or “transgressive” can be seen throughout the queer/trans community, where drag and gender-bending are routinely celebrated, where binary-confounding identities such as “boy-identified-dyke” and identities and expressions that appear to subvert or blur gender binaries, subversivism automatically creates a reciprocal category of people whose gender and sexual identities and expressions are by default inherently conservative, even “hegemonic,” because they are seen as reinforcing or naturalizing the binary gender system. Not surprisingly, this often-unspoken category of bad, conservative genders is predominantly made up of feminine women and masculine men who are attracted to the “opposite” sex. One routinely sees this “dark side” of subversivism rear its head in the queer/trans community, where it is not uncommon to hear individuals critique or call into question other queers or trans folks because their gender presentation, behaviors, or sexual preferences are not deemed “subversive” enough. Indeed, if one fails to sufficiently distinguish oneself from heterosexual feminine women and masculine men, one runs the risk of being accused of “reinforcing the gender binary,” an indictment that is tantamount to being called a sexist. One of the most common targets of such critiques are transsexuals, and particularly those who are heterosexual and gender-normative post-transition. Indeed, because such transsexuals (in the eyes of others) transition from a seemingly “transgressive” queer identity to a “conservative” straight one, subversivists may even claim that they have transitioned in order to purposefully “assimilate” themselves into straight culture. While these days, such accusations are often couched in the rhetoric of current queer theory, they rely on many of the same mistaken assumptions that plagued the work of cissexist feminists like Janice Raymond and sociologists like Thomas Kando decades ago. The practice of subversivism also negatively impacts trans people on the MTF spectrum. After all, in our culture, the meanings of “bold,” “rebellious,” and “dangerous”—adjectives that often come to mind when considering subversiveness—are practically built into our understanding of masculinity. In contrast, femininity conjures up antonyms like “timid,” “conventional,” and “safe,” [note: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SERANO?????????????????????] also which seem entirely incompatible with subversion. Therefore, despite the fact that the mainstream public tends to be more concerned and disturbed by MTF spectrum trans people than their FTM spectrum counterparts, subversivism creates the impression that trans masculinities are inherently “subversive” and “transgressive,” while their trans feminine counterparts are “lame” and “conservative” in comparison. Subversivism’s privileging of trans masculinities over trans femininities helps to explain why cissexual queer women and FTM spectrum folks tend to dominate the queer/trans community: Their exceptional gender expressions and identities are routinely empowered and encouraged in such settings. In contrast, there is generally a dearth of MTF spectrum folks who regularly inhabit queer/trans spaces.
Literally nothing has changed in two decades and time is a flat circle. The talking points are all the fucking same. If Julia Serano has never actually understood how much she has contribued to exorsexist talking points in the community (straight down to being a white middle class woman talking about how the "queer community" is all young middle class gays who only want to be subversive as a shallow political statement).
Like, yeah Serano! 20 years later and nobody knows the term exorsexism, nobody knows the term misandrogyny, nonbinary people are constantly being harassed over not fitting into various new queer binaries, queer spaces are overwhelmingly binary, people with "subversive" identities are harassed until they recloset themselves, nobody uses neopronouns, transphobes have been using nonbinary people with blue hair and pronouns as one of their top favorite trans boogeymen for over a decade, but yeah Julia!!! Subversivism is totally a "dominant belief" in our community and its DEFINITELY the primary one we should be concerned about!!!! won't SOMEBODY think of the gender conforming white upper middle class straight trans women & men.
She gets so close to this at the end of the above quote, the constant recreation of the gender binary. That is a real problem... but its from exorsexism and binary ideology, Serano, not binaryphobia or subversivism.
It's not even that I think no nonbinary person has ever acted like this. Certainly, radical feminists have historically been hostile to both feminine and masculine people and argued that only a gender neutral presentation can be feminist. In fact, Serano goes on to talk about this, although she distinguishes these radical feminists as "cultural feminists," and primarily focuses on their attacks on femininity & not their equivalent hostility towards butches. It's not crazy to me that Serano really had such experiences in some queer/trans spaces, although to be completely honest I cannot help but feel that she may not be writing in totally good faith here, as the exorsexism in her writing makes me suspicious of how strongly she is presenting "subversivism" here.
But this comes back to the age-old issue of saying "certain queer spaces are actively hostile to [xyz group of trans people], therefore all other trans groups are privileged!" which is that different spaces have different biases. Serano goes on to talk about most queer/trans spaces have few MTF crossdressers or trans women; but there are plenty of people who will tell you that their local scene is dominated by those groups. People will talk about how "all" or "most" trans resources are exclusively about binders for trans men, but there are others who will talk about how the only resources near them are for trans women.
The point being, its not that queer/trans spaces are not frequently transmisogynistic. It is that people frequently refuse to listen to trans men or nonbinary people talk about similarly deeply rooted ATM or exorsexism in these spaces. So the criticism of these spaces fails to be a genuine move towards community reflection and positive change, because people think a solution that only considers one part of the problem and ignores the rest will actually fix things. After all, writers like Serano never seem concerned with the erasure of trans men, NB/GQ people assigned female, or drag kings from LGBT spaces that aren't the "queer/trans" culture is describing. The history of erasure and anti-transmasculinity simply disappears from the picture; its simply natural when a space is all MTF spectrum people and the absence of trans men or drag kings or others on the FTM spectrum doesn't need to be interrogated, but when a space is primarily FTM spectrum people, its uniquely problematic.
As a final note: Serano, like so many people, does not see nonbinary people as nonbinary whether we like it or not. What I mean is, for some people its being an androgynous boygirl freak or kill yourself out of dysphoria. And naturally, those people are going to fight tooth and nail to dismantle the system that punishes us at every turn for making the choice to live as a freak instead of die normal.
We are never given that grace or understanding, though. We constantly have our identities and our political theory as nb/gq/gnc people reduced down to a shallow political choice to be academically critiqued, not something that people - including working class people (like Leslie Feinberg) and people of color (like Dr. Marquis Bey), like - are creating to survive and find strength despite the world we live in.
TL;DR Julia Serano heard some enben say "the binary is boring" and we've all been dealing with the fallout out for 2 decades. everyone read Emi Koyama The Transfeminist Manifesto and Racist Feminism at the National Women’s Studies Association
The thing that pisses me off is that there's actually a lot of potential in the term "subversivism", when defined as "when a bigot says that <marginalised group a> is better than <marginalised group b> based on an arbitrary idea of what's 'progressive'". The simplest example I have of it is this TERF tweet:
The premise is essentially that people have a moral duty to choose their gender identity based on an arbitrary criteria of what is most transgressive. There's so many strange assumptions and errors in that premise that deserve thorough analysis. And another important part of this is that the elevation of <marginalised group a> is often based in bigoted assumptions about <marginalised group a>. Like, as a nonbinary person I don't appreciate it when people imply that my identity is a political choice and not just something that I am.
But we don't get to have that conversation because Serano is only capable of theorising about why she is The Most Oppressed Person Ever, apparently! I also think there's an element of projection here too. Exclusionist binary trans people think that they are the most transgressive people in the queer community. So when nonbinary, non-dysphoric, gnc people etc. say "hello, we're also trans", exclusionist binary trans people project their intentions onto us and think we're vying for their crown or something lol. Because I've seen like 100 exclusionist binary trans people complaining about this but I can't name a single example of it actually happening.
And the worst part of it all is that she thought she wasn't clear enough about subversivism being about Nasty Nonbinarys harming the Trve Transsexual Womyn. So she renamed it from "subversivism" to "Compulsory Genderqueerness". Yes, as a reference to "compulsory heterosexuality". Julia Serano literally thinks that there is social pressure to be genderqueer, which is equivalent in magnitude to the social pressure to be heterosexual. And she's referenced it recently, so she seems to still believe this. If people gave a single fuck about nonbinary people, then saying that "Compulsory Genderqueerness" exists would have destroyed her credibility forever.
^^^ All of this, but perhaps especially this:
Exclusionist binary trans people think that they are the most transgressive people in the queer community. So when nonbinary, non-dysphoric, gnc people etc. say "hello, we're also trans", exclusionist binary trans people project their intentions onto us and think we're vying for their crown or something lol. Because I've seen like 100 exclusionist binary trans people complaining about this but I can't name a single example of it actually happening.
This is why it's hard to take Serano in good faith on subversivism to me. Because every other transmed or exclusionary binary trans person loves to go on and on about these exact subjects, how nonbinary people think we're better than them and how no blue haired theyfab could EVER be as socially transgressive as a binary passing feminine heterosexual trans woman (there are about 100 posts on Tumblr on this exact subject right now). Its a combination of the "I have to be the Main Character of Transness" projection, combined with people's internalized exorsexism being triggered by the idea of NB/GQ/GNC people being outspoken and politically active and actually criticizing the social structures that oppress us, which also oppress binary trans people but which they find some validation in appealing to so they take it as a personal attack.
I feel like some people on tumblr genuinely cannot fathom the idea of relating to transmascs/admitting transmascs were right about something.
Every time I come on here, I'll see another 'transfeminist' with hundreds or thousands of notes, talking about a phenomenon that is supposedly unique to 'tma' people, and then I'll squint at it and its literally something transmascs have also been talking about on this site for over a year*.
The entire concept of malgendering (only being gendered one way when it can be used against you)
Invisibility messing with statistics
Being in cis men's spaces often being more dangerous than cis women's spaces as a visibly trans person
Permanent health issues because of gendered expectations growing up even if thats not the gender you identify with
*Im not necessarily saying transmascs talked about it first because no one knows who 'did it first' and thats a dumb way to think about it. I mean stuff trfs have been making fun of transmascs for talking about but suddenly understanding when the same logic is applied to transfem issues.
it both saddens me and really fucking aggravates me when some types of trans men pride themselves on being good, quiet, pliant men, and put down the ones that want to be outspoken.
when the subject at hand is how we're erased in topics that affect and often outright kill us (see: reproductive health, homelessness, sexual assault rates, etc), I don't see anything admirable about going "well, we're still men, so this isn't our place to speak over women." it's speaking over women to say we experience this too?
if I want to be blunter than usual, I'd say this "sitting down and being a good little trans guy" shtick only helps the people that want us dead. if talking about how we're oppressed (instead of rocketing up to some place of absolute privilege like they assume) upsets some people, frankly, I don't give a shit. I'll maybe give a shit when my trans brothers stop dying of sepsis, slaughter and suicide. until then, I hope being forced to acknowledge us makes you feel guilty enough to listen.