Brittany Bitch

she/her no relation to spears

[brits-bitchin]

Hiiiiii Im Brittany Bitch! I'm the prettiest prosecutor in @yourfriendlyfayeking 's system

Im gonna put all the system shit that he's too cowardly to talk about here 😋

My opinions are my own, leave the losers out of it they're no fun to argue with any way 🙄

(Noot do NOT post shit here I WILL KILL YOU.)

Anyway, systems can only be formed from trauma, self diagnosing is always cool as fuck, and if you care more about fictional characters than real people you're stupid as shit 😁

Oh and don't argue with me unless you've read this first bc I will be referencing it a lotttt

And this debunks the "sources" from the guardianssystem

And to the bitch who tried arguing with us about a post I made in February about how "willos" and "transDID" systems are the same thing? You're the reason we panicked so bad we split again and now I'm meaner 😊 I would still be stuck in headspace if it weren't for you, but now I get to post about how much I hate ableism even more!! So thank youuuuuu 💕

[anti-willo-sukuna]

— do not mistake self-preservation for cruelty. there is no dishonour in denying ableists a place within spaces meant to foster safety. not every door must remain open to those who would poison the room.

[anti-willo-miku]

saw a post saying how people over 20 that were pro endo were like the wise seniors of the community and I just laughed so hard, how are u gonna be fully developed truly believing u can just , will urself to have a symptom of a traumagenic disorder

-ghastshalfbaked

The concept of 80 year old endogenics from the Lancers coming down with ancient ableist wisdom to the new generation of the empowered multiplicity movement.

[anti-willo-skywalker]

The term "plural of any origins" makes me roll my eyes so hard it hurts

[spacetransportationsystem]

seeing people post repeatedly about someone saying "you're a system" when that person has stated that they aren't and referring syscovery to "cracking the egg" which is the phrase used to describe a trans person realising they're trans but also stating you aren't radqueer and saying you "don't care about their mental health or wellbeing" is fucking bullshit behaviour

don't fucking harass a random person online. don't say you don't give a shit about their mental health whilst trying to fucking backseat diagnose them with your bullshit endo plurality

it's fucking easy to guess who said this shit and i have the blogs blocked but if the little pathetic fan club comes for me i'm ready to give you nothing you ableist asswipes

[anti-rq-white-blood-cell]

Remember that while you need trauma to split that does not mean every split after it needs to be some horribly life ruining experience.

Once the tap drips it can flood

[anti-rq-white-blood-cell]

I say this mostly because of “trauma endos.”

No, it’s not a different genic. Your brain (already traumatized) decided you needed to split. No, not all splits come from deep rooted trauma, I have split after minor arguments/minor physical injuries because my brain said I needed to.

You are just… traumatized… everyone’s threshold is different

[corvid-kidz]

happy disability pride month <33

[anti-willo-l]

things that do not mean you're faking systemality:

having a high alter count

having very little amnesia

having lots of introjects

using sign offs and decorating your system trackers

having comorbid disorders

not knowing whether you have osdd, pdid, did

having dramatic switches

being cringe

not being diagnosed

being a teenager

not remembering trauma

experiencing ramcoa or oea

[anti-willo-darkiplier]

things that do mean you're faking systemality:

Claiming to be willogenic

[akankun]

By the way, endos pointing to a statistic about "not all DID cases being from abuse" have utterly failed to be literate, and it's a gross statement. to claim you are the people who is not the majority, when the people in question are people who developed CDD's from non-abuse-related traumatic experiences like war, natural disasters, environmental instability is inherently ableist. These people are already struggling with being dismissed, for their trauma is less common in CDD treatment, and you are erasing them just to replace them with yourself. You have no right talking about "oppression" when your roots - and modern presence - is rooted in talking over survivors.

[guardianssystem]

Hi, survivor with CPTSD and DID here

The vast majority of endogenic systems are not making this claim. (Personally, we haven't seen this specific claim for a few years, except when brought up by antis, like this, or by very young misinformed folk, who have then been willing to listen to accurate information.)

Endogenic systems existing isn't ableism, nor is it erasing CDDs, or trauma survivors. They're not claiming to have DID without trauma, they're saying their plurality isn't caused by trauma. Many of them are trauma survivors, too - they're not speaking over themselves.

[akankun]

I have seen it again and again and it is personally frustrating. If you notice, my post was specifically talking this argument. Of course you can't talk over yourself, but you can very much talk over other survivors. One of the reasons I was making this post is because I have been spoken over, by different types of people sure, but *especially* by endogenic systems. While it was't the core cause, we *have* split as a result of both medical trauma and natural disaster trauma, and I am so fucking sick of the arguements I'm seeing, and reducing trauma to abuse, and bringing up that one statistic. I wasn't an aggressive anti until I went out seeking endo content, and interacted with an endo in person - what I saw was nothing short of three types of people: 1) People who need treatment for a different issue but refuse to get it and end up harming other people, 2) Traumagenic systems who are being shut down & having their symptoms encouraged; you can find many accounts from these kinds of systems across both this site and others. 3) People who think that fragmentation is the same as *identity*. How about the fact that the term endogenic was coined by someone who admitted to doing maybe a few minutes of research? Endos have no fucking problem adopting terms made without any respect even to themselves. I would have no problem with endo's/wouldn't care if they were not 1) rooted in a movement that was SELF-PROCLAIMED as "anti-PTSD" among many other things, and 2) STOPPED USING MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY. Multiple was coined for CDD's alone. "Median" was coined by people with sub-criteria DID before it was called "gatekept" by endos and overtaken. Alter stands for altered state of consciousness, system stands for DISSOCIATIVE system. I don't care what you identify as. I care when you are an invasive pest, fail to recognize the roots of your own movement, and refuse to fuck off from OUR spaces. I'm assuming you've been told already multiple times about the *roots* of the natural multiplicity movement; with one of its first major groups literally going out of their way to seek systems to "convert" into denying their own symptoms because disordered plurality was "impure" or "lesser". How endos love jumping onto terms - not just DID but also cultural - and how they have no fucking research other than "This guy said this once". First you say that endos aren't claiming DID, then you say that they can't speak over people with DID because they are survivors... pick a side. Being a trauma survivor doesn't mean you can speak for all survivors. Especially if you're one that is supporting an ideology that, historically, used to be *vocally* and openly ableist. No apologies for the harm caused, no attempt to right wrongs... Maybe I wouldn't complain had endos not been intruding in OUR spaces. *Until there is medical evidence of non-pathological and non-traumagenic plurality*, I am not entitled to believing SHIT.

[thee-butcherbirds]

Notice how the asshole obviously doesn't actually listen to any anti endo a day in their life, by claiming that they can't talk over trauma survivors as trauma survivors, when 90% of the time, us anti endos are very much talking about the fact that we HAVE A WHOLE DISORDER THAT MOST OFTEN DISABLED US, and that their community DOESNT? Notice how they fail to listen for a single second, and do the thing that they claim we do to them, deny the experiences we have as a community have had with their community so many times it'd be pointless to count? And how they deny it with only word of mouth? The classic "it's not happening because I don't see it" reasoning, which makes no fucking sense at all?

[akankun]

Geniunely. Not to mention that so many of the vocal anti-endo blogs I have seen this year have all been from systems who were once put under this endo nonsense. The stories from people who were lead down a big pit of anti-recovery because endos were the ones to "educate" them is sickening. I've also seen so few anti-endos go to siege pro-endo reblogs - not saying it hasn't ever happened - but these pro-endo blogs appear to pretty much stalk the tags.... which doesn't sound healthy. I'd seen them mentioned before, but I definitely wasn't expecting to encounter in the wild lol. This is pretty much a burner account and I post my posts into the void. That is to say, I'd been frequenting "system tumblr" before, and I've only grown more intolerant of endos the more I was subjected to their "educating"!

[anti-willo-kaito-vocaloid]

Guardian system is a KNOWN and really fucking obnoxious pro endo CDD system. They as a trauma survivor make this EXACT argument under any post like OPs with the same bullshit responses. Most if the links they share are their own personal google doc that does NOT contain resources but rather biased "evidence".

This system CONSTANTLY talks over other trauma survivors by completely misrepresenting their posts to turn them into the ableists rather than pro/endos.

It happened to my friend, it happened to OP, it happens all the time. Its the same bullshit all the time. TGS has literally nothing better to do than talk over other trauma survivors

[anti-willo-miku]

Their document has already been debunked also, I think it’s in my bookmarks account!

[anti-willo-miku]

Psst.. https://www.tumblr.com/anti-willo-eleanor/813998961376526336/did-you-not-read-the-entire-post-or-do-you-just

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[dizzy-pops]

“People who claim to be endogenic are misinformed about the nature of systemhood, have most likely buried their traumatic childhood memories, and are usually not just faking” AND “I don’t want endos or their supporters anywhere fucking near me,” are statements that CAN and DO coexist, btw

[anti-willo-canada]

Piping hot take to kick off this disability pride month, but being a system is a disability and a disorder. It disorders you and fucks you over. It disables you. You cannot be a system and non-disordered, you can only work to minimize how badly it does disorder and disables you. Happy Disability Pride month and don't let the posers get you down this month

[diddigitaldiary]

Endos stop comparing cdds to trans identity challenge level: impossible

[anti-willo-kenma]

One of the most isolating things about my time in the endogenic community was how different my symptoms were from theirs.

Everyone else talked of "plurality" as if it were fun. As if it were the best thing to have ever happened to them. As if it were a party trick. They would tell me they could spawn their "headmates" into others' headspaces, and everyone would message excitedly while I would be wondering what was wrong with me since nothing had changed in my head.

(On a separate note, we don't have a headspace...it's a void up there. Too overwhelming to try and define. But when we were pressured, we lied and said it looked like the inside of the 10th Doctor's TARDIS. I'm curious to hear about other pwCDD's experiences with headspaces.)

Whenever I tried to vent about my symptoms, which were ruling my life (and still do a lot of the time), I would get one of three responses:

Silence (the cold shoulder)

Confusion

One-upping (where they would vent over me)

I felt so alone, despite being very active in that server. I was the main support for several mentally ill teenagers, and I do truly hope they're all doing better, but eventually it grew less and less active, and after years, I left.

I'm glad I did.

[anti-willo-solivan]

it always cracks me up when i see tags like "tw anti endo" or "tw sysmed"

guys we need to put tws for science because the flat earthers can't handle it💔

[h0perest0rat1onpr0gram]

using ableism in your petty discourse is sickening. you wish you experienced real ableism so you cry and bitch about kids on the internet doing dumb shit.

.......... I'm a wheelchair user who was quite literally fired from my last job because of ableism and was homeless because nobody else would hire me.... because of ableism. But for a group of people claiming that a trauma disorder doesn't need trauma and whose entire community stems from a hate group, I'm sure you wouldn't have those problems. And I'm glad for that, as I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Also, it's very telling that I only got this kind of ask after using the anti endo tag, as despite stating in my pinned that I am anti endo I hadn't recieved any attention for it until now.

If seeing posts with a tag upsets you enough to send anon hate in the inboxes of survivors of abuse, you should probably just block the tag. It's not healthy to invest your energy in things that rile you up like that.

[anti-willo-kenma]

Whenever endos say "Read the DSM! It doesn't even mention trauma!" it always pisses me off because that's blatantly false. First of all, the introduction to the dissociative disorders section has a whole paragraph on the link between trauma and dissociative symptoms.

"Dissociative disorders are frequently found in the aftermath of a wide variety of psychologically traumatic experiences in children, adolescents, and adults. Throughout this chapter, 'traumatic experiences' refers to experiences that result in psychological sequelae, as opposed to the physical impact that can cause a traumatic brain injury. Therefore, in the DSM-5, the dissociative disorders are placed next to, but are not part of, the trauma- and stressor- related disorders, reflecting the close relationship between these diagnostic classes. Both acute stress disorder and posttraumatic stress disorder include dissociative symptoms, such as amnesia, flashbacks, numbing, and depersonalization/derealization."

Secondly, in the diagnostic criteria for DID, it states:

"B. Recurrent gaps in the recall of everyday events, important personal information, and/or traumatic events that are inconsistent with ordinary forgetting."

Lastly, in the Associated Features section, it even gives more specific examples of the trauma that could cause DID:

"Individuals with the disorder typically report multiple types of interpersonal maltreatment in childhood and adulthood. Other overwhelming early life events, such as multiple long, painful, early-life medical procedures, also may be reported."

And that's not even getting into the numerous examples in other diagnostic tools of questions pertaining to trauma or the fact that the DSM is a.) very America-centric and b.) limited due to not including diagnoses like C-PTSD and P-DID (unlike the ICD-11, which does).

Sigh.

[anti-willo-miku]

Endos have demedicalized cdds so much in their head that even symptoms of the disorder make you an endo. I’m so tired of people claiming CDD systems real symptoms are proof of being an endo. You are an idiot who doesn’t know how the damn disorder works.

PT: An ask that reads: my hot take is a loooot of antis have endo n willo headmates. they dont know it but they do. a guy might just show up due to something mildly stressful but not traumatic, guess what? ENDO. OOOOOH SCARY. /END ID

[caution-of-mawl]

"mildly stressful" is also stress. stress = reason to split an alter, especially for systems with lower split tolerance...

it doesnt need trauma for alters to split, alters can even split for positive stress reasons... that doesnt make anyone an endo or a willo... these people really have no idea how these things work but then claim they have any idea whatsoever, its pathetic hahaha...

[anti-willo-sayori]

it’s been said before but endos don’t really understand that the “big” trauma is just needed for the initial disorder to form. It’s just needed to for the initial disruption in development (the emotional states failing to integrate, as a result of trauma / highly dissociated ANPs and EPs).

Anything after that doesn’t require as much. Your brain has already developed an extreme tool / coping mechanism, so it’s going to use it!

But also.. why are they undermining stress here? Like.. stress is notoriously bad for you.