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I’ve decided that side-blogs just do not work for me. Everything is too interconnected in my head. So this and my other side-blog are going to go dark. I’ll be posting everything over at @listen-to-the-trees from now on. You can find me there.
Sorry.
in relation to this post , i also need jaskier to play with the elven kids. the parents just finally catching a break in near-safety, a moment of calm and a moment of kindness, a moment to breathe for them while the bard plays with the kids.
laughter echoing through the hull of the ship, children squealing as the bard lifts them off the ground and spins them around. jaskier raptly listening as they explain to him how to skip a rope or clap his hands along to the rhythm until someone makes a mistakes.
the children teaching him elven songs and nursery rhymes, which then come in handy to calm a particularly anxious and scared toddler a few days later. the elves trust him, the children love him, and the parents watch him with relief and tears in their eyes as he makes them believe that kindness and hope are not yet lost in this world
Is history a wheel Doomed to repeat?
1x02 | 2x07
THE WITCHER - JASKIER ICONS
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Nothing feels more free than the realization that canon, fanon, and headcanon are all 1000% fake and made up and therefore all equally true and equally false. None are better or worse than the other. They just either appeal to you or they don't.
JOEY BATEY About Jaskier and Geralt’s Reunion
Joey Batey on Jaskier in Season 2
At the end of The Princess Bride, when Inigo tells Westley he doesn't know what to do with himself now that he's not in the revenge business anymore, and Westley tells him he'd be a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts?
The name of Dread Pirate Roberts' ship is The Revenge. Which means Inigo still gets to be in The Revenge business.
I have been watching this movie since I was at least five years old, and I never made the connection until now. (Feel free to tell me you all saw it long ago.)
okay but jaskier using carefully neutral petnames when he’s mad at geralt to communicate his displeasure
“what do you think, my scrubbed potato?” “after you, my lukewarm bowl of beef stew” “ah geralt, you partially shined boot”
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I just saw another of those posts where someone goes “Oh my god, guys, I just realized that King Arthur is fanfiction! It’s just people telling versions of other people’s versions of stories. There’s no canon!”
My brother in literature, that is what legends and folk tales are. King Arthur, Robin Hood, Snow White, Hansel and Gretel, etc…. there’s only stories told down through the generations. You can find “the earliest recorded version of the tale;” you can find “the most historically popular version” or “the one that introduced elements most often used in later retellings (the first appearance of Maid Marian, or the iconic staff fight with Little John) but there is no canon because there are only stories that morphed out of other stories that morphed out of other stories that may once have been based on an event that happened to someone who may not have had a name vaguely similar to the character you know today.
And that’s cool! I love that! And you go out and do your own retelling, and make your own choices of what elements to take or discard! I think that’s great.
But it seems to me that fanfiction particularly is based on the idea that we took something that does have canon, whether we kept that canon, twisted that canon, or spit in that canon’s face, and decided to run with it with our own ideas.
I don’t know. Maybe that’s a difference without a difference, but it feels different to me. And I mean no ill will to those making the posts on legends being fanfiction, so I didn’t want to post it on any of those, but I wanted to get the idea out. So thanks.
I just saw another of those posts where someone goes “Oh my god, guys, I just realized that King Arthur is fanfiction! It’s just people telling versions of other people’s versions of stories. There’s no canon!”
My brother in literature, that is what legends and folk tales are. King Arthur, Robin Hood, Snow White, Hansel and Gretel, etc…. there’s only stories told down through the generations. You can find “the earliest recorded version of the tale;” you can find “the most historically popular version” or “the one that introduced elements most often used in later retellings (the first appearance of Maid Marian, or the iconic staff fight with Little John) but there is no canon because there are only stories that morphed out of other stories that morphed out of other stories that may once have been based on an event that happened to someone who may not have had a name vaguely similar to the character you know today.
And that’s cool! I love that! And you go out and do your own retelling, and make your own choices of what elements to take or discard! I think that’s great.
But it seems to me that fanfiction particularly is based on the idea that we took something that does have canon, whether we kept that canon, twisted that canon, or spit in that canon’s face, and decided to run with it with our own ideas.
#PERFECT ANIMATION OF OBI-WAN KENOBI #OBI-WAN SWINGING HIS LIGHTSABER LIKE A BASEBALL BAT #IS THE ABSOLUTE FUNNIEST THING #’HE’S ONE OF THE BEST DUELLISTS IN THE JEDI ORDER. HIS STYLE IS REFINED AND–’ #MEANWHILE OBI-WAN KENOBI: [HITS YOU WITH A LIGHTSABER BAT]
#no no#this is WHY he’s the best duelist (via @markwatnae) Yes! You understand!! Obi-Wan is one of the best duelists in the Jedi Order, but people are wrong about why. They think he’s the personification of refinement and elegance. N O ! ! ! HE WILL JUST STRAIGHT UP BLOW OUT YOUR KNEE WITH A HARD KICK, PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE, AND BEAT YOU TO DEATH WITH A BASEBALL BAT LIGHTSABER. OBI-WAN KENOBI STREET FIGHTS AND YOU’RE ALL SLEEPING ON THIS.
NEVER CROSS OBI-WAN KENOBI IN A LIGHTSABER FIGHT BECAUSE HE WILL FUCK YOU UP IN THE MOST DOWN AND OUT WAY. JUST STRAIGHT UP BEAT YOU INTO THE GROUND. LIKE, YES, HE’S A JEDI MASTER AND HE IS GRACEFUL AND HAS HONED HIS SKILLS, HE VERY MUCH IS ABOUT DISCIPLINE AND FINE TUNING HIS TRAINING. HIS FINE TUNING HIS ABILITY TO DROP YOU TO THE GROUND AND SWING A LIGHTSABER BAT AT YOUR HEAD.
#i love it when he does it to cut off the acklay’s leg too 😂👀 (via @thetorontokid)
OBI-WAN KENOBI STREET FIGHTS. HE’S STILL A JEDI, HE’S STILL GOT SOME VERY FANCY MOVES THAT GUY CAN BACKFLIP WITH THE BEST OF THE JEDI HE DOES THE SABER TWIRL LIKE ANY OTHER JEDI HE IS VERY PRECISE AND TALENTED IN THE FORCE BUT ALSO HE STRAIGHT UP JUST MURDERS THINGS WITH A LIGHTSABER BAT AND THEN STABS THEM LIKE A LIGHTSABER KNIFE TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE DOUBLE DEAD OBI-WAN KENOBI STREET FIGHTS.
OOK.
This Ao3 anti discourse actually gets really funny when you realize that they are clearly the ones going out of their way to read fucked up shit in the first place. Like one does not accidentally stumble on an original work from an orphaned account clearly tagged for underage noncon incest slavery. It just does not happen. It's like the Salem witch trials at this point. You may well have seen Temperance at the devil's sabbath but what the fuck were you doing there?
"Why does Batman need to be a billionaire?"
"He has to fund the Justice League. They often have a space program."
"But couldn't he do more good if he just invested-"
"The Earth is routinely invaded by aliens, gods, and the forces of an extraterrestrial god of tyranny."
He has, like, three charitable organizations he funds, named after his father, his mother, and Alfred.
Between both Bruce and Batman’s contributions, Gotham should be a better city than it is, and the only reason it isn’t is DC Editorial Mandate that basically says Gotham has to get worse and worse and worse or there’s no Batman stories they can tell (and, obviously, they have no other characters besides Batman).
There’s a reason Batman thinks the city is literally cursed.
I want to see Bruce Wayne go off
"Oh, oh, just charity my way out of dealing with the Penguin, a living, breathing 19th century Marxist's cartoon of the bourgeoisie? Just fund anti-Clayface measures? Crack down on corporations who put out shapeshifting cosmetics? What socio-economic pressures turn botonists into actual fucking dryads?! What inspires anti-animal terrorism? THAT'S NOT EVEN A REAL KIND OF ECO-FASCISM!"
For the record, Gotham is canonically curse, because it sits on some sort of evil swamp. I think.
There are like, half a dozen curses. The Lazarus Pits are leaching into the water, Slaughter Swamp is an unconnected body of water a few miles outside of the city that also ressurects people (see Solomon Grundy), the Bat-demon Barbatos and his followers (the Court of Owls) have been fucking up the city psychically and financially, the malevolent influence of the warlock Doctor Gotham's tomb in the center of the city, the madness hypersigil of Amadeus Arkham (in Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth), there were several outposts of subterraneans and aliens beneath the city during the Silver Age, constant chemical warfare that makes it the equivalent of a WWI trench managed by MK-ULTRA, it's in New Jersey, and I think God just hates it
tired: Batman could do more good by running charities than by fighting criminals
wired: Batman could save literally every other city on the planet simultaneously with the amount of effort and resources he’s pumped into Gotham, which is a lost cause, but this is his city damnit.
Fired: You think he's done ranting after three hours only to find he's only gone through THE JOKER at this point.
If Batman ever stopped putting as much effort into fixing Gotham as he does, the city would probably open a portal to every hell dimension at once, spontaneously vaporize itself, and send batman's exact physical location to Darkseid with a convincing deepfake video of Bats calling Darkseid various Apokolips slurs, while defacing and desecrating a stone effigy of the New God.
idle Jaskier-related notion:
Joey Batey is really approximately the same size and shape as Henry Cavill, and there are a number of clever techniques in pretty much all Jaskier's costumes to hide this fact and make him look about three or four inches narrower than he actually is. The costumers work really really hard to make him look that twinky, often with cleverly cut shoulder decorations that pretend he's trying to look bigger than he is and have the actual effect of making him look a lot lighter.
On a Doylistic level this makes sense, because it's hard to make Geralt look Huge and Imposing next to your non-combatant harmless sidekick if said sidekick is a jacked six foot burly man.
On a Watsonian level, however, the notion of Jaskier as this big meaty dude aggressively arguing with all his tailors to ensure that he looks as non threatening and foppish and entertaining as possible while also looking as sexy as he can (for a Jaskier definition of sexy, at least) is generating considerable entertainment for me this fine morning.
"No! My shoulders must look slender!"
"But, sir, you could look ripped!"
"Absolutely not! I must look slim and gentle and unassuming!"
"As you wish, sir... So do you wish it to be cut with much excess fabric, so that you look small and also very wealthy to afford so much?"
[howling] "No! I must look slender and gentle and also above else very attractive!"
Geralt doesn't notice any of this until they try to share a tiny hostel bed on the road and Jaskier cuddles up to him and abruptly there is no more room in that bed
I need a full picture costume run down of this by someone in the fashion field stat
Ask and ye shall receive! I may not work in the fashion field but I do work in the costume production industry for theatre/film so this is totally my area. Using clothes to change someone’s appearance is super common, and Tim Aslam’s costume design for The Witcher is actually a really good example of this, so buckle up because this is a long ride!
Creating an illusion like this has two main components: shape (the style lines created by the clothes), and fit (the way the clothes hang on the person’s body), and is the result of close collaboration between the designer and the production team.
We’re going to talk about season one, because that’s where the difference is the most obvious. Take a look at Geralt:
First, let’s talk about shape. The goal here is to make Geralt look strong and imposing, and the best way to do that is to exaggerate the triangle of his upper torso. See how much broader his shoulders look than his waist in both images? A loose shirt over tight pants is a classic way to establish this, because the shirt blousing at the waist (note that the pants sit high up at the natural waist) makes the hips looks narrower in comparison. Note also that his shirt has an asymmetrical closure - a centered vertical line down the shirt would make him looks slimmer, while the off-center one adds width.
His armor does this by giving him those massive shoulder pieces, which both lengthen and raise his shoulder line. I would estimate that they raise Henry Cavill’s shoulder line by a good two inches just from the bulk of the leather alone. His torso armor also does a really clever thing by having a very subtle V shape to the vertical lines, making his waist look smaller. If you count the number of stripes above and below his belt (again, sitting high at the natural waist), you’ll notice that the narrow stripe at the front edge of the armscye disappears, which allows the side stripes to make that V shape.
Now let’s talk about fit. The fit of Geralt’s shirt looks simple but is actually super specific. It’s very easy for an actor to get lost in a shirt that is too loose - if there’s too much extra fabric then it will just make the actor look smaller by drawing attention to how baggy it is. This shirt fits just right: the sleeves are full enough to allow for movement but still relatively fitted (and rolling up the sleeves actually also helps add breadth to Geralt’s torso by continuing the horizontal line at his waist). The body of the shirt fits smoothly across the shoulders and chest, and has just enough fullness to drape at the waist without feeling baggy.
Now let’s look at Jaskier.
We’ll start with this look. Shape and fit are very interconnected here so it’s just gonna be a jumble. First thing I notice: the jacket. Unlike your traditional fantasy/historical doublet, all of Jaskier’s jackets end at the waist, rather than continuing into a peplum/skirt like Geralt’s armor does. This cropped jacket is evocative of childhood/immaturity, an association that is generally considered to have its roots in schoolboy uniforms of the 19th and early 20th century (see the image of schoolboys wearing “Eton Jackets” below)
Jaskier also tends to wear his jackets open. This creates a vertical line down his torso, which is generally slimming, but it also totally obscures the shape of his torso. The brain is going to take the line of his hip, which we can see, and the armscye of his jacket, (which actually looks to be cut ever so slightly artificially narrow but it’s hard to tell) and fill in a line between them, which is likely going to end up being slightly narrower than his actual ribcage. He does have poofs at the top of his sleeves, which can be a technique used to add width, but if they’re cut and fit carefully you can actually hide some of the breadth of the shoulders inside the poof and make it look like the fullness comes from the poof and not the body.
Note: the “armscye” is the technical name for the armhole, but specifically the torso part. The corresponding sleeve part is the “sleevehead.”
Again, we have another open jacket, this one with strong vertical lines. See how the line of Jaskier’s hip flows up through the edge of the doublet all the way up through the armscye? This makes his torso look narrower despite the jacket’s shoulder tabs. In contrast, this line is always broken on Geralt’s outfits, whether at the waist with his shirt or with the giant shoulder pieces with his armor. Jaskier’s pants also tend to fit more loosely, which de-emphasizes the triangle of his shoulders to waist.
Okay this is my favorite image to illustrate everything we have going on here. Look at Jaskier’s jacket. What’s the first thing you notice? The bright yellow inset slashes in his chest. The high contrast in color draws the eye inwards and distracts from the breadth of his shoulders, where we have another cleverly cut poof. His jacket is again cropped, with strong vertical lines, over the baggiest pants he wears in the season.
Now look at Jaskier and Geralt together. Jaskier is all about long vertical lines, while Geralt’s predominate lines are either horizontal or diagonal. Additionally, Jaskier’s hips look even to his shoulders, even if they’re not, and Geralt’s shoulders are exaggerated. The two characters have a very different presence, even if the actors underneath are similar.
I hope you’ve enjoyed this introduction to costume design! Creating the illusory effects like this is one of my favorite things and I am excited to share!!
…ok I love this but … why didn’t they just hire a real twink?
They hired Joey Batey because he showed up to the audition with an actual lute upon which he played and sang a song he’d written the night before called “The Lion Cub of Cintra” based entirely on the role he was auditioning for. Batey happens to be basically built as a fairly meaty guy, one of those people who seems to put on both muscle and fat fairly effectively, although judging from his music he is often worried about being seen as fat. He is not a small man and will never be a small man, but he is very committed to the role, a musician in his own right when he’s not playing Jaskier, and generally plays the role fairly well. Personally I am glad we went with “musical talent” as a higher priority in our casting than waifish slimness.
one thing the tags have been quietly driving me nuts about on this discussion is also... look okay, my original shitposting from last year? is very much based on the belief that the body you’re born with does not define who you choose to be. Jaskier’s costuming choices are most interesting to me as a conscious choice for several reasons, and I’m gonna rant for a sec because look I had a point there I wanted to jokingly but very seriously talk about and the costuming shit is all very well and good but I wanted to talk about what it means for the character to choose to dress and present himself this way. what does it mean in story fucking terms to have a big buff dude that presents himself as non-combatant, as vulnerable, as gossipy and a little swish but not a physical threat?
see, masculinity is often defined negatively, as “whatever isn’t feminine”, and the constructed artifice of deliberate appearance modification is pretty clearly coded feminine in mainstream Anglo culture (which is what I have access to, gender is complicated, but I’m going off here). what this means is that visibly trying to control your appearance and the way that people perceive you is something that is often assumed to undermine masculinity, which has all kinds of super special social drawbacks for men/AMAB folks who don’t perform masculinity well because misogyny+sexism+transmisogyny do fun things together.
you’re allowed to control your appearance if you pretend that the reason you’re doing so is totally divorced from the way you look (I’m lifting weights to be strong/lifting weights because I want to be hot) and the artifice you use to execute the effects is completely invisible to the viewer (not wearing any kind of visible makeup, for example). so just from that perspective, the fact that Jaskier dresses consistently to make himself seem a certain way is interesting to me. his gender presentation is a deliberate choice, and it is a deliberate choice that erodes his social status in masculine posturing rather than shores it up.
the fact that Jaskier’s size also makes him a potential threat to other people and that he acts to minimize that is also interesting in the context of the way he earns his income. it’s heavily implied that he probably secures some of his patronage through a form of sex work (i.e. his patron the Contessa, who is both paying him and sleeping with him, which ends when she throws him out of the sexual relationship). moreover, he’s an entertainer, and being muscular and large isn’t very helpful when you earn your living via your fine motor skills: damaging your hands is potentially devastating if you earn your bread playing a lute, and getting into fights is therefore dangerous for his livelihood. threatening entertainers don’t relax people into parting with money and food and shelter.
we think of being threatening as an asset in all circumstances but that is fundamentally not the case. a large, hulking, threatening Geralt will incur a certain amount of posturing from dudes who want to feel big and scary and important in their home communities; Jaskier is likely to get ignored by coming across as meek and fairly non threatening. it’s a deliberate strategy, and we know it’s deliberate because he has the bulk and body size to present himself the way Geralt does if he wants. so he doesn’t want to do that, he must want to be perceived as expressive and a little swish and not dangerous at all and approachable, and he has clearly worked hard enough to get that across that it fooled a really ridiculously high fraction of the folks in my notes here.
this post has been really resonating with delighted surprised trans folks among other things and hey! I see y’all! you are still whatever gender you feel most comfortable in even if your body isn’t cooperating right now. you can choose a lot of the way you will be perceived by thinking about your clothing, your movement, and your postures, and you can learn to do all those things with practice and thought.
and I just think it’s neat seeing a character who easily has the body type to do a very normative gender thing choose to do a non-conforming thing in a way that you absolutely do not see much in media, because usually they fucking hire the twink instead of doing all that work to get the right gender presentation, and the story fucking suffers for it and people who aren’t naturally skinny waifs don’t get to see nice things that look like them in the show.
so.
that’s why.
I already reblogged this for the fascinating costume design, but adding this because it's important.
Saying “this niche, properly tagged, warned, and rated piece of fiction could theoretically hurt someone” is not a good argument. This properly labeled cookie with the allergen information at the bottom that contains gluten could theoretically harm me very badly, but only if I consume it. Tags are like nutrition labels, and warnings are like allergy information. If you know you have an allergy to something, the logic is to stay away from it. It is the same with fiction. I’m not running through stores yelling at people to take all the products with gluten off the shelves just because it could hurt me. Instead I ignore it and go to the gluten free section and find cookies that are right for me. And if running through a grocery store yelling sounds ridiculous, that’s because it is. Stop doing the same with fiction.
this is the best way i’ve seen this put!!
And just like with food, what might be harmful for one person to consume could be quite *beneficial* for others. One man’s trigger is another man’s catharsis.
AND if you lack the maturity/self control/awareness to stop yourself from eating things that could potentially harm you, you either 1) are too young to be making your own food choices and should be supervised by a parent/other adult who is supposed to be responsible for you (and the store clerk who put the food on the shelf is NOT) or 2) need to take accountability for your own actions, because if you deliberately consumed something you knew could hurt you as a fully autonomous adult, then you really have no one to blame but yourself.
Me: I knew that caramel apple would fuck me up based on the listed ingredients, and it did, and it was worth it. 5/5 Google review.
Dumbasses: 1/5 stars. This confectionery sold me a caramel apple that upset my stomach because I have a dairy intolerance and they should have taken that into account. They are POISONING people and should be shut down.
True story.
