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Hey so that was a great date, yeah, but I don't think it's going to work out. Nono you didn't do anything wrong, and I have indeed had a crush on you since we started high school, it's just... well, I didn't want to bring it up at the time but we kinda got sucked into a portal fantasy midway through. We saved the kingdom over and over, relying on our knowledge of and trust in each other every time, throwing ourselves into the firing line to protect each other and using each others' conviction as a rock. We got married and lived a happy life together until the portal sucked us back mid-battle and you gave up all your memories of our journey in order to save my life right when we ended up back in the coffee shop. Yeah that was when I got a bit weird and went to the bathroom.

Anyway I thought we could push on and make the date work but I have all of these memories of secrets that this you never chose to share, decisions that this you never made, and intimacies that this you never experienced. And it's kind of screwing with the vibe yeah. Also on the date it was really, blatantly clear that you're sixteen whereas I have memories of ruling a fantasy kingdom for thirty years so like... that's a problem all on its own. Anyway this you just feels more like a daughter to me. A daughter with the woman I gave my heart and soul to over and over and received like in return, only to lose her forever on the journey home. On the plus side I can definitely help you with your math homework now.

derinthescarletpescatarian

#what the fuck#this one was actually really very short why is it still like that what

The shorter it is, the more concentrated the what the fuck can be.

derinthescarletpescatarian

I can help you with your math homework because the fantasy world's magic system was based on calculus and I was a gifted mage, stop nitpicking.

pandakahn

Wanna read it.

derinthescarletpescatarian

You just did!

enki2

teaboot

Wild that folks keep saying beekeepers abuse bees as if bees are not both venomous flying animals and fully unionized

teaboot

Hubris to think you COULD abuse bees

teaboot

I think that if you see a balrog in an unlocked kitty kennel then you can assume that it wants to be there

vegance

Actually, beekeepers take many precautions to keep their bees from leaving.

many clip the wings of the queen, destroy new queen cells, cull queens they don't like and use bee pheromones to prevent a hive from naturally swarming or absconding. They also try and prevent mating with the African honey bee, which makes them less docile among other things. During artificial insemination of queens, drones are crushed and „spare“ queens are killed.

and commercial beekeepers even cull their hives during winter, or when they are not producing well.

Coupled with the fact that there is evidence that insects do feel pain, this is not great.

(Not to mention that honeybees are an invasive species in most places, competing with native pollinators and spreading disease)

tetrafelino

It is so fucking bold of you to link the exact same paywalled book thirteen times in your reblog to throw people off the fact that you're using one source from 1859.

champawattigress

I don't think there's ever been a funnier vegan response in the history of this hell site. This is actual gold. If you cited an argument like this in a first year undergrad intro to bio module, then your lecturer would be legally entitled to fire you out of a cannon. I think I'm dying

short-wooloo

The only reason you should be citing an old outdated book is because you're writing about how things have changed and are trying to highlight how outdated said book is

catasters

catsithkelpie

I cannot describe how much I laughed at this.

Sound is VERY important.

homunculus-argument

The important part of making horrible kitchen concotions is to give them properly horrid names. I have discovered a new dish: The Blended Devil.

It's like deviled eggs, but instead of taking the yolks out of the eggs, you just mash the entire boiled eggs into mush with a fork and mix the rest of the ingredients in there. Eaten from a bowl, with a fork or a spoon depending on the consistency. Or go at it labrador style with your face down in the bowl if you're like that. Not up to me.

thenotme

That already has a name. It's called egg salad T-T

homunculus-argument

How is a concotion of eggs, mayo, mustard, and seasonings to taste a salad? It contains zero leafy green or vegetable.

what-even-is-thiss

A salad can just be a chopped mix of things. That’s egg salad alright. I put it on sandwiches. You can also put pickle relish and/or chopped onion in it.

homunculus-argument

If we go by the definition that any chopped mess of random bullshit counts as a salad, then I guess I'm a salad.

starstruck-heretic

So etymologically speaking, anything that has had salt sprinkled on it is a salad

From old french "salade": something that has been salted

homunculus-argument

✔️salty

✔️chopped

✔️random bullshit

Ah fuck, I am a salad.

laserwalnut

Ditto Humor

homophobla

Twice a year in Hawaii the sun passes directly overhead and objects cast no shadow. It’s a phenomenon called “Lahaina Noon”

My dinnar 💪💯❗💥

This is one of your worst posts yet man

textposttropes

Poverty Food

Visual Innuendo

doffy2

You called me dirt sucking poor and told me my carrot looks like a cock

derinthescarletpescatarian

"The trannies should be able to piss in whatever toilet they want and change their bodies however they want. Why is it my business if some chick has a dick or a guy has a pie? I'm not a trannie or a fag so I don't care, just give 'em the medicine they need."

"This is an LGBT safe space. Of COURSE I fully support individuals who identify as transgender and their right to self-determination! I just think that transitioning is a very serious choice and should be heavily regulated. And there could be a lot of harm in exposing cis children to such topics, so we should be really careful about when it is appropriate to mention trans issues or have too much trans visibility."

One of the above statements is Problematic and the other is slightly annoying. If we disagree on which is which then working together for a better future is going to get really fucking difficult.

june-egbert-official

Someone who says they don't care if dudes wear dresses and makeup is a better ally than someone who says they're a safe space for women and non-binary people. I am not joking.

redrook

yeah I went to a gay bar recently with my husband tumblr user beemovieerotica, and a VERY confused capital S Southerner straight man in cargo shorts and a trucker hat showed up

apparently he (who through my drunken memory I remember only as Earl) liked some woman, and she told him that he wasn't cultured enough and needed to attend his first drag show (she also flaked on him)

Now I'm reasonably androgynous and was wearing makeup, a short leather skirt, and black heeled boots, but still when this guy came up to me when I was standing off alone and asked "So. Do you come here often?" with a very earnest expression, I thought. Surely not. This guy doesn't think I'm a straight woman does he????

Anyway I start talking with this guy and he has no idea what the fuck is going on but he is just a very kind and earnest dude and asked a lot of questions (while asking if it was alright if he asked those questions). I track down my husband and friends and I'm like y'all. We need to make sure that Earl has a Good Fucking Time tonight.

Man was completely out of his depth. At one point they put on a puppy auction to raise money for Pride, that started with a 6 ft drag queen in all her glory leading a leather pup out on a leash to the tune of that damned RSPCA "in the arms of the angels" song

We look at Earl. Nervous. He squints, laughs, and then goes "I was wondering why people were dressed like that!" He turned to me and asked "So they're like dogs?" And I said yeah pretty much. And he just chuckled and went "Yeah I thought so with the tails! Never seen this before!"

When the first drag king came out, Earl looked at me wide eyed and went "There's a dude version too?!" And I said yeah they're called drag kings. And he said, low, "Drag kings."

During one of the queens performances, he frowned, shook his head and told me, "Your legs are better than hers." in a tone that implied he thought there was some travesty taking place and I should also be getting paid

When he found out I was there with my husband (and that I am not a woman) he profusely apologized and said "I'm so sorry, it's dark in here and I thought you were a hot chick! I wouldn't have said nothing if I knew you had a husband, I'm so sorry about that."

When beemovie invited me to the dance floor with him later and I still had a drink in my hand, Earl said "Oh don't worry about that I can hold your drink, you get on out there and shake your ass with your husband!" Then before we left, Earl bought me drinks for "Putting up with me all night and answering everything. Y'all helped me have a great time tonight."

like. You gotta recognize there's going to people who have never had interacted outside of their of their own community. This includes you. And just because your community is familiar with all the right vocabulary and how to correctly say something, it doesn't mean they're actually going to support you. If someone like Earl shows up, confused and out of their depth but kind and curious and earnest, you gotta have patience and truck through the small things, so when he goes back to his friends and his coworkers and they snicker asking how the drag show was, he can genuinely talk about how included we tried to make him feel and that he had a great time

The person matters more than the language

plasticpursesweetpea

I will fuckin never not reblog this.

crane-among-celandines

I think I've reblogged this before, but it bears repeating.

I think some of the worst damage to leftist causes is done by that specific set of people who claim that they care about marginalised groups and the prejudice they face, but whose principle activism consists of using progressive language to pick fights with people from up on their home-made moral high-horse.

depsidase

jayalaw

At least this time it can’t be wrapped in Patriotism.

dwinkus

my friend liz downloaded some free audio software a few months ago to do something and now every time she joins a call a female voice says “trial. trial.” and liz doesn’t remember the name of the software or know how to stop it and she doesn’t want to

dwinkus

my friend liz had her spotify account hacked and literally didn’t realize for a year until I was talking about my decade in review playlist and she looked at hers and it was all brazilian music and she was like oh this explains why I would go to sleep listening to classical music and wake up and it’s playing trap. and also why there are like 30 playlists on my account that I didn’t make. she just thought spotify was like that

dwinkus

hand to god at some point my friend liz managed to fuck up her install of Portal so bad that it was displaying minecraft textures

dwinkus

like she’s bringing me dead mice

dwinkus

tonight she very carefully explained that there’s been a screw rattling around in her laptop for months but today it stopped which means it’s wedged on something and then the image on the screen started sliding sideways but she rebooted three times and now it’s fixed. and then an hour later she dropped from the call

dwinkus

also she said her laptop bluescreens every time she connects to the school wifi specifically I guess just to round things out

pixlh3art

Hi there! Certified computer technician here.

what the fuck

nat-20s

Favorite thing about renaissance faires is that they have fuck all to to with the renaissance. This thang is not about historical anything this is about dressing up like a fairy and watching a joust

bettalbimarginata

#a samurai with a flintlock pistol sitting next to a guy dressed as a caveman drinking a styrofoam cup of dr pepper#and it fucks severely

headspace-hotel

It's not THE renaissance, it's A renaissance. Of what? Up to you

typhlonectes

minttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

SANS IS NONBINARY?!

mintopoleli

HUH?!

minttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

brella-boi

prismatic-bell

So to continue our discussion, yes, the church of LDS is Bible fanfiction, and the Bible basically stole and bastardized Jewish stories.

But even the original post that started this thread treats the story of Adam and Eve as fiction, OP expressly says it’s a morality tale, the story of Adam and is in a very objective sense fictional. (I also think the post said Mormon was quoting was originally in response to things like the good place or hazbin hotel but that’s not relevant to our discussion and is speculation on my part)

Does this make Mormonism moral or correct? No, is it right that Christian’s bastardized another groups cultural mythology? Also no. These things are all bad, but if your argument is “you called this religion fiction while believing a fictional religion” which kind of assumes they don’t interact with their religion the way OP does? As in viewing the story as a morality tale, And is also potentially hypocritical depending on your religious beliefs.

I genuinely appreciate you moving this off the thread. It's a conversation I'm happy to have, but not when it's derailing a different discussion, if you feel me.

So here's my issue with that person specifically. If you check OP's comments you'll see this was a response they got to posting the same or similar thoughts on another platform, and Mormonism by default includes the Bible. They're also Biblical literalists: if it's in there, it's true.

(A moment to clarify from my end before we continue: I consider Torah a hagiography. Yes, it's the history of the Jewish people, and parts of it are very accurate; it's also a political document designed to fulfill a specific function, and some parts are "accurate" to the political needs of the Jewish people. This strikes me as the most likely option, because it's a common thing across cultures in that region at that time.)

So my anger here is that the LDS member--whose religion relies upon other people accepting a book of highly dubious origin, whose religion includes the story of Adam and Eve--called that story fiction as soon as the names were in Hebrew.

Let me put it this way: let's say we're physicists. We're trying to determine if time works the same on a planet like Jupiter, because we know from Einstein that time is related to gravity. You and I are using slightly different versions of the theory of relativity--it has been refined slightly over the last few decades--but we are both using more or less the same source. I'm willing to say my version of the formula might be not quite right, but it's close enough for now for the calculations I need to be doing--and anyway I'm kind of curious how the results will differ between Einstein's original version and one of those slightly revised models.

I mention one day that Einstein did his work in German. You dislike Germans so much that you immediately dismiss my work as incorrect on the basis that Einstein was a hack.

You see why this would be ridiculous, right? You just threw out the formula that's foundational to your work because you were prejudiced against the country its founder was born in. And up to that moment, you and I mostly agreed! We had different methodologies and would probably have come to slightly different conclusions, but we would have been in the same ballpark.

Does this make my irritation a bit clearer?

dappercat123

Yes I see moreso the point you intended to have, I was responding to what I viewed as hypicricy that you likely had not intended either

as I said I think the context of the post they screenshotted was likely in response to hazbin hotel given how it’s currently trending, but I think the commenter actually apologized to OP and cleared up the point they where making so that discussion didn’t seem relevant to me, they hashed that out on their own

I would imagine not every Mormon is inherently a literalist? I’ve always believed every individual follower of a religion follows a slightly unique version, your individual views on Judaism likely don’t 100% line up with anyone else’s because all humans are individuals. I don’t know enough about that Mormon commenters personal beliefs to say what their idea of Mormonism is like, but yes most likely they are literalist to some extent,

My comment was that from an objective standpoint calling the garden of Eden story fiction is not incorrect, which I will admit was probably an unecessary addition.

prismatic-bell

So I do have some serious biases against the Mormon church writ large (as opposed to individual Mormons, I support your right to believe what you want as long as it's not hurting anyone), but they're mostly related to the fact the religion was founded to explain why it was good to be racist and have sex slaves actually. (Why is it always sex slaves with religious cult leaders?)

One of those biases that's not related to the racism, however, and is very relevant to your point, is how high-control a cult it is. Mormonism would make Jim Jones advise developing at least 1/1000th of an ounce of chill. I saw a post here once from an exmo who said the reason so many Mormon men wear such wildly intricate necktie knots is because it's one of the only ways they can express themselves. They get one pants color, two shirt colors, two tie colors, and that is what you wear all day, every day, for life.

All of which is to say if their clothing is that highly regulated, you can imagine how tight the doctrine itself is. If you're not a literalist you shut the fuck up about it if you don't want to be excommunicated (which also means losing your entire social network).

Also...even if you're somehow a Mormon who's not a literalist and hasn't been excommunicated, you're not going to speak so dismissively of the text. You're still going to have some reverence for it.

gengineer

If I could offer the perspective of a different exmo:

It's two suit colors, one shirt color, and unlimited tie colors, and those requirements only exist on Sundays for life. The other exmo was likely talking about missionary life, which is a (technically voluntary) two-year commitment, usually from age 18 to 20.

That said, I agree with the other exmo that such a high-demand religion creates odd methods of expressing individuality, like the complicated/fancy tie knots. For women, it's usually expressed in naming their kids with unusual spellings (I assume you're familiar with the Tragedeigh memes).

But to your point about Bible literalism: yes and no.

When I was a kid, I was FLABBERGASTED to discover that my friend chose to go to one church or another (within the same religion) based on the pastor's beliefs/teachings. In Mormonism, every church teaches the exact same lesson on the same week out of the same handbook. I was a military kid, church was the only thing that stayed the same--even when we moved overseas.

Lessons are on a 4-year cycle, each with their own handbook which outlines exactly which verses to read and exactly how to interpret them. The handbooks are freely available online. Whether a Mormon reads a verse as literal or not almost entirely depends on the handbook's interpretation. If a Bible verse isn't in the handbook, it might as well not exist. (The Book of Mormon is read more often and more thoroughly.)

You're right that Mormons are taught to never disagree with their holy texts and to never speak disrespectfully of it. You're also right that behaving too far out of line will get you excommunicated and cost you your entire social network. Most Mormons are Republican, but I do have Mormon friends who are hoping the Mormon church will move in a more progressive direction. Heck, Dan Reynolds, singer of Imagine Dragons, is Mormon and loudly pro-queer. Those opinions go explicitly against what the leaders of the church -- God's direct line to Earth -- have declared. And Dan and my friends are allowed to say those things, but they're expected to keep those opinions to themselves at church and church-related activities.

Edit before I've posted: I've JUST NOW remembered that there are different flavors of Mormonism. I'm discussing my experiences in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, not the, uh, Fundamentalist Church of Christ? or . . . that one other Church of Christ. It's possible that the other exmo was from one of the other two branches.

Side note, just because you brought up the sex slaves and racism: Iirc, the sex slaves weren't introduced until 20 years into the religion, and the racism was introduced by the 2nd leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (which I specify because the three groups branched immediately following the first cult leader's death). So I wouldn't say the religion was *founded* for either of those reasons, but it was certainly used to justify those goals. (There's a verse in the Mormon's bonus book, the Doctrine and Covenants, where God tells Joseph that he'll be smote if he doesn't take a second wife. He's instructed to ask for his wife's permission, but then told he should still do it even if she says no.) This isn't relevant to this discussion, but the technicalities may be useful to know in future discussions.

Sorry not sorry for the info dump.

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