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All Public School Food Should be 100% Free to All Staff and All Students, Always.
so are we just gonna pretend that i’m not talking about public schools that are paid for by the state or what?
do you want students to pay tuition for k-12 too huh? do you want students to pay for textbooks too? do you want public schools to function like our universities? lmao what other bright ideas you got?
I don’t think, with school funding as it is today, that it’s that funny of a question or that someone asking it automatically thinks children should pay school fees and books (which already happens). We already know in a lot of countries, staff are using their own wages to subsidies the cut in funding, we know staff hours are being cut to the bone to the point some schools are doing 4.5 to 4 day weeks instead of 5. We have schools using crowdfunding to replace their roofs.
The answer can be “with properly used taxes” and which areas would then not be funding - there are many. We can do weird and promote sponsorship like lots of US schools do with sports (having seen corporate academization, I don’t recommend it, I’m just saying it’s a funding option some schools are using and are being pushed to use). We can do a bit of a rewind and have it coming out of the central or local government rather than school funds which, in many countries, are taking on more and more expenses that used to fall under the state budgets.
I mean, in the US for decades now, kids have been expected to bring basics like paper towels, whiteboard pens, extra paper for photocopying, fees for books (particularly in high school), some state school have annual fees to keep things moving along. This isn’t new. Over 30 years ago when I was in school, my parents would get sent the expected expenses and shopping list.
In England (as education is a devolved issue, I won’t touch the other UK nations), as much as people fight for secular education and the removal of the law requiring daily worship that is entirely or mainly Christian (with very few exceptions, all replaced with other religions), at this time, it is financially and logistically impossible to remove the Church of England from the state sector of education, the state is relying on church facilities and fundings. This is as old as there has been state education, far older than Thatcher the milk snatcher. supposedly free state education.
Yeah, free meals in schools is a great ideal, I fully support it and think it would be of great benefit -- but in the world we are currently in, not the idealized world we wish for -- we have to ask what can we do for school funding to enable it to happen, who can we support to help make it happen, not just laugh it off as if questioning the reality of funding while we have buildings crumbling around us makes us wealthy hard-hearted capitalists with no thoughts for children.
americans are wild.
theres a convo on reddit going on rn abt how europeans see americans working conditions and a bunch of americans are like "its really not bad unless you work an entry level job, i have a medium wage job i got with my degree and i get about 15 days of paid vacation a year and i even get some sick days and can accrue more, the people complaining are low wage workers who should get something better"
like. you realize that for a fulltime job 20 paid vacation days are mandatory here right? and that even entry level job offer more paid vacation days? and that any ot you work gets paid more AND counts as more vacation time right? like if your work week is 38 hours and you work 40 hours a week you get paid overtime AND an extra paid 12 vacation days a year right? and that sick days are mandatory to be paid by your employer right? that theres no limit on sick days, right?
you realize that what youre listing as good benefits is literally the bare minimum here right?
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it’s less than minimum
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Text SHARKATTACK to 40649 and sign the pledge!🦈
or we could let an unnecessary danger to swimmers die.
No the fuck we can’t. Because last I checked humans don’t own the fucking ocean, and last I checked, they’re IMPORTANT apex predators, a super necessary part of the ecosystem. Not to mention NEW YORKERS bite 10x as many people as sharks do a year. More people die from lightning and fireworks than form sharks.
Sharks aren’t a problem. They never have been. People are.
if you swim where the sharks are, it’s on you buddy, the animal gotta eat you don’t gotta swim
To @keyhollow let sharks die naturally, don’t go hunting them. Last I checked there’s no such thing as an important apex predator. Why on Earth are New Yorkers biting people? Know what we did to lightning? We found ways to deal with them. I’d say firework damage is usually from stupidity.
To @jeza-red so nobody can enjoy the beach now. The animal doesn’t got to eat innocent bystanders that are definitely not fish.
I’m gonna ignore 95% of that and focus on the apex predator part.
They’re super important because they control prey animal populations, of prey animal populations get out of control it can heavily and possibly irreversibly damage flora, other fauna, and land. A keystone predator is literally irreplaceable
A “keystone predator” is nowhere near irreplaceable.
Do you know what keystone means??
First off, calling something a keystone predator is erroneous at best. Second, keystones can be replaced.
No
You literally just have no idea what you’re talking about.
https://eu.oceana.org/en/importance-sharks-0
http://www.sharksavers.org/en/education/the-value-of-sharks/sharks-role-in-the-ocean/
Sharks play a critical role in keeping our oceans healthy and in balance because most shark species are at the top of the marine food web.
The Importance of Sharks
@miasmicsiren If you’re too stupid to read adult content, there’s even a children’s book on the subject!
Cherrypicking sources from shark apologists won’t work for you either.
Ah yes. “Shark apologists”. Those who defend the problematic behavior of *checks notes* preserving species and protecting the ecosystem.
Sharks aren’t even that dangerous to humans! Not only are shark bites PRETTY DAMN RARE, but they can be easily avoided by taking steps like not swimming where sharks are and utilising specially designed swim suits that prevent the sharks from mistaking you for food, and even shark mail, that stops their teeth piercing your flesh if they do bit you! You can learn how to drive them off in case of an attack and not swim alone to increase your chances of survival, should the worst happen! Sharks, the majority of the time, bite out of curiosity because they don’t have hands. Don’t look interesting. (Also they are absolute BABIES and you should interact them with the guidance of a professional if you have the chance.)
There is a lot going on here but i think what i’m caught on the most is “shark apologists”.
SHARK APOLOGIST I’m gonna fucking die. Sharks are problematic for fucking existing. Lord have mercy.
Guess I’m a shark apologist.
The answer is 1, why is everyone a delinquent?
Y'all please, learn your pemdas (or bodmas or whatever you learned it as)
It's 16
*sigh*
Parentheses equation is 2+2, which is 4.
Now we multiply by 2 to get 4x2 which is 8
8 DIVIDED BY 8 is 1.
I have no fucking clue how you can get 16 out of this. I don’t think you’re bad at math, I think you just need glasses.
It’s 1.
It’s 16.
8 / 2 * (2+2) =
8/2 * (4) =
4*4 = 16
You do the parentheses, then you go left to right.
That isn’t how this works.....
PEMDAS
8/2*(2+2) (P = Parentheses)
8/2*(4) (M = Multiply)
8/8=1 (D = Division)
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Use Mathpapa calculator if you still don’t believe me.
No, Riley.
M isn't in the original problem but 8÷2 still needs a resolution. You have to solve 8÷2 as-is after (2+2) no matter what.
So you're not following PEMDAS by factoring x4 into 8÷2.
It's literally this simple.
I, uh, I think it’s 1, actually.
Plug it into a searchbar, or a scientific calculator that waits until the whole thing is input & that's the answer.
No need.
Everyone on this post:
@nonanalogue can you solve this for us because I swear to goodness the answer is 1 but this post is making me doubt my brains
Happily!
So the problem is two-fold: first, order of operations as most people are taught it is a lie, and second, the original problem is written very ambiguously.
Let’s drill down into that first point.
PEMDAS! Parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction. Everyone’s taught to do operations in that order! Except that’s not really right. As a math teacher of mine put it, “it works for now, but you’ll find out I was lying in a few years.”
The problem is that multiplication and division are the same operation, and addition and subtraction are also the same operation. Division is really just multiplying by a fraction, and subtraction is just adding a negative. With that in mind, it doesn’t necessarily make sense to do some multiplication arbitrarily early in the problem before the rest! As a result, here’s the bottom line for that point:
Both 1 and 16 are right.
How can that be?
Well, that brings me to the second point: the expression is written very ambiguously, so as to maximize confusion! It’s also why I don’t like using the division symbol when a fraction will do just nicely.
Observe two other ways we could write this expression:
The first one resolves to 8/8, which is 1. The second resolves to 4(4), which is 16. Both are right, only because the original expression is vague.
The sad thing is that everyone hates fractions, when actually they make life so much nicer!
I know that this stuff is why some people love math, that they see this as a puzzle to solve and its fun and whatever, but this is exactly why I hate it.
I also went by MDAS and got 1 but @nonanalogue made a valid point
A lot of people are taught math by people who have no mathematical understanding whatsoever.
And once I entered university, and had some of my math courses, (as a pure math major), shared with education majors looking to become math teachers, I understood how that can be the case.
If you have a group of people in a math course who are, as a group, the dumbest sacks of shit you've ever met, that's always the education folks in the course.
I wouldn't be able to tell you why that's the case, I'm not able to offer any useful speculation at all as to why they're like that or why they want to become math teachers, or why I've never met a good one. (Even my own math teachers in high school were . . . I mean, when you're learning from them, it's not obvious they don't know their head from their ass. Looking back, my calculus teacher didn't have a firm grasp on the robinson series, or why it would sum to 2. (That's 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 . . .))
But I see it in their coursework, and when I tutor them, and when I go out into the elementary, junior high, and high schools for math outreach events, (guest lectures, math competitions, prize exams, math funday, etc.), and basically whenever I interact with grade school math teachers in any context whatsoever, before or after they’ve attained their education degree & math minor.
To give you a small window, there was one course, intro to graph theory, in which we had 9 education students in the class. Their course average was around 20%. The class's course average was 58%, having 19 people in total.
To put that into perspective, the midterm was made of 5 questions. The 5th question was a proof, the 4th required some knowledge of big N notation.
But the first three questions were: Are you able to draw this graph without lifting your pencil? Are you able to design a graph where you can draw it without lifting your pencil, but cannot draw a path which hits every vertex exactly once then returns to the starting vertex? And: here are two graphs, are you able to label the vertices to show that the graphs are the same?
The questions were weighted evenly, so if you can give a reasonable answer to those three questions, you just got 60% on a 3rd year math midterm. Which is four times the average score of the education group on that midterm. No tricks, the graphs involved are all <10 vertices. Like, if you can draw the below without lifting your pencil:
Then congrats, you already just got 5% more than the education majors class average on the entire midterm. Who are specifically, I'll remind, people who were looking to become math teachers.
And the major consequence of that is that they see, and teach, mathematical logic as a series of rules to follow, and which must be stringently followed. And they don't know what to do when those don't cover the exact situation in front of them, and they fall apart.
And that sounds sorta like a description of axioms and theorems, so let me clarify: like PEMDAS. I absolutely know people who are currently math teachers who would argue until they are blue in the face, (with other math teachers), that because they learned PEMDAS or BEDMAS, one or the other answer is correct.
Those aren't mathematical axioms, those are typesetting conventions.
A mathematical axiom is like "the successor of 1 is 2", (ie, when counting, you count 1, 2, 3, 4 . . . )
And I see the results of it all the time during math fundays and other outreach events . . . the kids initially expect any event to be an "HAHA, BE TESTED ON ARCANE PASSWORD SEQUENCES YOU WERE NEVER TAUGHT, CHILDREN", (*mustache twirl*), instead of, like, an explanation of the logic and introduction to interesting puzzles.
And the teacher's responses are invariably stuff like "HOW DID YOU GET THEM INTERESTED IN MATH", and the conclusions they reach are things like "I need to get them to get up and do stuff on the board more, because you did that", (who TF liked getting up and doing stuff on the board in math class?), because they're too busy looking at the mechanics of what I'm doing instead of understanding that I'm passing on, like, understanding. They're still looking for rules that they can follow to get the answer instead of understanding the answer or the method behind it.
You start talking about method and all they absorb is 'get them to show their workings', instead of, like "There's an infinite number of ways to reach the right answer for any given problem that's actually about mathematical thinking, and it's far more useful for students to be able to generate even simple answer methods than to memorize 18 billion of them"
You try to teach math teachers techniques like "Find the invariant", and they get all confused and are like "But you didn't use it in your answer?". But the only way they understood the answer was once I pointed out the invariant. But they don't understand why they should do so, because it's not part of the Arcane Answer Algorithm. Anyways, I have lots of comments and rants on math education in North America.
Okay I honestly didn't get some of the terms above but the concept of "understanding>rules" holy shit YES. Omg can't tell you how frustrating it is when teachers are like "this is how it's done and this is how it must always be done". If you ask why it's "'Cause the mathematicians / the books / the rules says so"... okaaaayy that doesn't actually help? Gah...
Also, as a person more inclined to linguistics more than maths (i like the problem solving and logic bits but the other concepts give me problems) I've noticed that my teachers would totally disregard the language/semantics when teaching which made it so much harder.
For example with definitions as the most basic I can think of- you can't just give 1st or 2nd grade students formulas or equations and expect them to magically extrapolate the concepts from that. Addition is not defined as 1+1=2, like, that is not a definition. Addition is THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER. It's a process. What is being done in this process? Putting things together. Y'know? Make sense? Sorry, this is how it was for me growing up and it still makes me so sad and angry. Teachers who taught Math could not actually SPEAK math, ugh, I want to cry.
That's not even mentioning the visual or auditory learners. Those with learning or other disabilities as well. We want to learn these things. We're not stupid or lazy. Math is important in life (maybe not all math and not too much unless you're entering a math-heavy field, but still). It doesn't have to be painful, it can be fun and simple. People who teach math shouldn't just learn math, they should learn TEACHING. It's not going to matter how much of a genius you are if you cannot impart the knowledge and understanding to the student. And that's not going to magically happen by reciting what they can just read in the books.
Also, can totally confirm that nobody likes getting up to solve problems on the board wtf...
Like, I don’t fucking get it. Why is this the type of math teacher we produce? What in our education system continually and reliably produces this type of person as someone who wants to be, and succeeds at becoming a math teacher? How do we teach math teachers better? What is the failure point or points here? These are also people who are failed by our math education system, how can we reach them? But everyone I’ve ever known has expressed having mostly math teachers like this. Well, except for a few mathematicians I know, and that might have to do with why they’re mathematicians. Even they know exactly what sort of math teacher I’m talking about.
A thought piece.
I like that at some point a human looked at a sheep and went ‘oh man that looks warm, I wish I was that warm’ and then stole all its hair
Wig snatched
Millennias of language interpretation have culminated in this
i had a thought today like man, my ancestors would probably not approve very much of me being such an extravagant glutton, but then i was like wtf are u kidding. those dumbasses didn’t live on a fuckin potato ass diet for no minimalism. they didn’t do what they did, whatever the fuck it was, for me NOT to fucking eat my bodyweight in sashimi!!! they would be fucking ecstatic to see me making the most of my opportunities for plenty. they would be fucking cheering me on. every lice-covered cossack and illiterate serf and three-toothed yak herder in my lineage is with me in this restaurant, and they are going absolutely apeshit watching me try to fit an entire samosa in my mouth
i love this idea that the ancestors are following modern people around like a rappers yes-man as we eat food #‘fucking superb you funky little descendant’
me, standing in front of the burger king counter like the blithering hunger gibbon i am: i’ll have… uhhh… double whopper with fries. thank you. large please
the 500 mongolian tatar and polish jew ghosts behind me: [ERUPT INTO WILD SCREAMING AND HIGH FIVES]
can you believe there is a painting of cossacks going hogwild out there that fits this situation perfectly
WHAT a goddamn mood
a goth mom posted this on facebook in an argument about public breastfeeding and I just felt very impressed
@shitpostsampler PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU I know it’s not a text post but still
@shitpostsampler finished it!!! I painted a frame to match, and it lives in the entryway to my apartment!
It looks lovely! The frame accents it perfectly. May your friend guard your door from bad opinions.
also thinking about this like gay sephardic poet from like the 13th century who wrote that moses would not have written down the laws against being gay if he had seen how beautiful his lovers face was and im like god the layers the romance the religious emotions..
the poet is rabbi yehuda al-harizi/judah ben solomon harizi! it’s from his book of taḥkemoni iirc, and the quote is “if Moses had seen the way my friend’s face blushes when he’s drunk, and his beautiful curls and wonderful hands, he would not have written in his Torah: do not lie with a man”
Azula was one of the best written static characters on ATLA
And they wanted me to believe Zuko weak ass could beat my queen ? TUH
they had to make her have a mental breakdown to give Zuzu the edge smh
*prepares thinkpiece on ATLA*
I just think it’s funny how the only representation of mental instability and neurodivergence on the show led to the downfall of the most powerful female character
Ummmmm? The most powerful female character was blind though and didn’t have a mental breakdown?
Azula can fly with fire and therefore can avoid detection by Toph’s seismic sense
CLEARY yall forgot about this lady
she can fucking bend blood… like don’t tell me she isnt the most powerful character
Not powerful enough to stop her top lip from looking like the crust of a beef patty but ok. Why you so loud for ?
Things are heating up in the Avatar fandom
Anyway…even Zuzu knew he couldn’t take her on by himself that’s WHY he brought Katara along. But then his dumbass thought “Oh she’s ‘slippin’ so I can take her” but my queen was like YEET!
So we gonna act like Katara didn’t bring Aang back from the dead and stop the rain in a whole ass area? And mastered Blood Bending in like 3.5 seconds, y'all tripping Remember Katara went toe to toe with Azula in the crystal caves and had her ass yanked up in the air like she was about to pull a Mortal Kombat finisher. Zuko had to bring her cause he knew he’d get that ass whooped and needed Katara to win. Respect her gangsta. Also Hama lip looking like Beef Patty crust 😂😂😂
Katara fucking WRECKED Azula and snatched her entire soul in like five minutes flat.
Not only that, Katara fucking wrecked Azula back in THE SEASON 2 FINALE
She was fighting Azula, Aang was fighting Zuko
She had Azula on the ropes and panicking the entire time. If Zuko hadn’t knocked Aang temporarily away and jumped in to help, Katara would have beaten Azula then too, even when Azula was fully mentally stable.
Even with the power of Sozin’s Comet kicking Azula’s bending up by a thousand, Katara was able to beat Azula in five minutes. Most powerful female character my ass.
I just love that there were enough ridiculously powerful female characters in the show that we can have arguments like this.
Don’t y’all forget that Ty Lee took Azula down in two fucking seconds, immediately immobilizing her and if they weren’t currently in enemy territory and surrounded by prison guards, my backflip princess could have ganked Azzy right fucking there
Not to say of course that Katara and Toph aren’t ttwo fo the strongest benders in the whole fucking show, but Ty Lee is deeply underappreciated
Atla is truely a work of art
that raw self-examination wherein you realize that part of the reason Good Omens has so thoroughly reclaimed your soul is how desperately, how deeply, how viscerally you have needed - how for such a long, long time, you have needed - a story with a happy ending
no strings attached, no bittersweet victories, no happiness tempered by loss or uncertainty or ephemerality or complications or ‘realism’
just a story where people love each other and do, actually, get to live happily ever after
Dumb question but as a girl myself I don't like sports because of my chest getting in the way a lot but then I had a thought, spider Gwen needs to do a lot of moving and I have this headcanon now that she went out and just got a lot of sport bras but couldn't find the right one at first meanwhile her guardian is like "oh she's into a sport phase or something. Well it's healthy so it's not bad" (idk Gwen's full story but I thought it would be funny BC we can all relate to finding the perfect bra
Please don’t send me headcanons.
Please don’t send me headcanons.
Any chance I was ever going to do this has just gone right out the window.
Please don’t send me headcanons.
GUYS. LISTEN.
If you send shit like this to authors/creators, they can’t use it.
Because it’s NOT THEIR IDEA.
It becomes a legal liability. Sure, you might go ‘oh but you can use it! I said so!’ but there’s no contract, no proof, and what if you change your mind? What if your silly headcanon post becomes a lynchpin of their story, something you feel you should be properly compensated for?
It’s not that creators don’t want to hear from us. It’s that if we cross streams, we move from the grey area of fandom content where no one wants to mess with the legalities straight into the dark depths of ‘welp this is a lawsuit waiting to happen’.
DO NOT SEND HEADCANONS TO CREATORS.
A counterpoint: Ideas are not copyrightable. It’s a fundamental tenet of copyright law. It might be a PR liability, but legally you’re on solid ground as long as you don’t copy someone’s actual words or do a sentence-by-sentence paraphrase.
I believe this goes back to sometime in the ‘80s, when Marion Zimmer Bradley took someone’s actual work (as in, took their manuscript and wanted to publish it under her name) and somehow convinced everyone that she just happened to read some fanfic, and “if you read fanfic you can never publish anything close” became… a law headcanon I guess? But in actuality MZB was just a piece of work and really good at gaslighting (see also the whole child abuse thing).
The entire problem comes from people believing this. I’m not trying to say that there is no problem here – there very much is a problem, because people will in fact try to sue you for ‘stealing their ideas’! and they will think badly of you if someone else accuses you of it! But the problem is that people think that ideas are something that you can own. You cannot. We don’t want them to be, because that would impoverish us creatively. Why would we only ever want one take on a story? The whole omegaverse lawsuit thing brought this up again recently. Do we really only want to allow one m/f omegaverse story, ever? (Okay, a lot of you will be yelling “YES” at this point, but you know what I mean.)
So please instead of just uncritically perpetuating this harmful meme, explain the nuances of why you personally do not want to read headcanons. Don’t act like this is just the natural state of things if you are a published author. It’s not. It’s an excess of caution in the face of a misconception. And maybe if people with big audiences explained this things would change.
I have explained.
At length.
Repeatedly.
And I am exhausted.
I do not have the hours in the day to write books and comics and lengthy explanations, over and over and over again, for why people should please not do things I have asked them, told them, and begged them not to do.
I am tired and Google exists. Please let me rest.
A counter-counterpoint: regardless of the actual legality, just imagine something for a second. You are Writing A Thing, and a person on Tumblr sends you their “headcanon” and you’re like “that’s similar to something I’m actually writing already! neat!”
So then you publish a book with that in it and fans are discussing it, as fans do, and then you see it:
“Well actually, fun fact: she actually got that idea from someone’s headcanon on Tumblr!”
And you didn’t, and you explain that, but you see it crop up, again and again, and then comes the snowball:
“did u know: the author got that idea from a fan on social media”
“hey that author actually got that idea from a fan on Tumblr”
“say their name! it was Tumblr user XXX who gave her that idea!”
“Tumblr user XXX is the real originator of that idea! don’t erase them from discussions about it!”
“I can’t believe the author doesn’t give credit to XXX for using their idea.”
You see where this is going. Don’t tell me it’s not true.
“The author got that idea from a fan,” is a fun story because, as fans, we love the idea of our headcanon becoming actual canon. But it’s so easy, in this day and age on the internet, for it to evolve into something people can feel self-righteous over. And no creator needs that.
No.
No we do not.
Thank you for stating this so clearly.
As a kind of deeper issue, the problem is that, in general, people don’t understand the law.
The law as a whole is big and arcane and there is a reason people go to graduate school and get a doctorate to practice it. So, when you come across statements from non-professionals like, “Ideas are not copyrightable,” that’s true as far as the statement itself goes.
Copyright governs expression of ideas, not the ideas themselves. But where do you draw the line between Idea (not copyrightable) and Authorship (one of the things Copyright is meant to determine)?
A Joint Work, according to 17 U.S. Code § 101 Definitions is, “a work prepared by two or more authors with the intention that their contributions be merged into inseparable or interdependent parts of a unitary whole.” That relies on the mutual intent to create a working relationship. BUT, and it’s a big but, the courts haven’t really stuck to that. The courts may and have during copyright infringement cases granted joint work ex post - coauthorship after the fact. They didn’t intend to be coauthors but they were. How much expression does there need to be? How much work does an author have to do in order to become an author, even if no one but them had any intention to treat them as an author?
And that’s the real damn problem. It’s the porn definition. The court knows it when it sees it. The legal framework for determining coauthorship has nothing to do with how many words someone writes, how many hours they put in, or what exactly they contribute.
The criteria are that the expression must be:
Intent (see the ex post problem above)
Substantial enough (whatever that means) to constitute authorship OR at least not legally de minimis (again whatever that means, remember no word count or hour count or anything. I know big when I see it.)
Original or Innovative (a very high or very low bar depending on who you ask - again, this is someone’s judgement call when it comes to coauthorship, we’re not talking about innovating on an existing text, it’s how much someone innovated on the text before it was published)
Fixed in a tangible medium (I’ll come back to this one)
Common (as in shared) design
Effort by the coauthors to fulfill that common design (I’ll come back to this one, too)
It’s the last three that cause real issues for the subject at hand.
Fixed in a tangible medium is relatively easy. It just means it has to be written down or drawn. Which means an ask works just as well as an interoffice memo. It is avoidable when there are more extreme differences between input and output. There was a case of coauthorship, Meltzer vs Zoeller, being rejected when the sketches provided by a man to a contractor were not deemed sufficiently comparable to the actual blueprints produced. Not in what they depicted but in quality. The thing is, fanfic, really isn’t that much different from original fic, which really isn’t that much different from professional fic. Text is text, so that kind of difference isn’t there. It’s not really a defense for fiction. Once it’s the same essential thing: text, it’s fixed in a tangible medium.
Common design, yeah, well you’re doing the exact same thing: trying to grow a storyline and characters in a certain direction. Basically, if this goes to court, this is there.
Now, we’re down to one person’s word vs another’s. Was there effort? If someone is bringing suit, they think there was enough effort. They can point to all the interactions they had with the author, even the ones that the author never wrote back. How much effort does there have to be? Again, no hourly quota. This is weak sauce as a defense.
Unfortunately, these last three, are the ones that the courts have built the concept of joint authorship out of since Maurel v. Smith in 1915. And if there is any evidence at all, two out of the three are not in the professional’s favor.
Will the court rule in favor of the professional artist who did all the work and probably didn’t even think about the fan-suggestion? Yes, probably. Probably. On balance the court has not sided with people making the coauthor argument. And many more fans rely on saying it was their idea, which has no standing, so it gets tossed out but that’s still a big waste of time.
But imagine you’re the professional.
Every single suggestion you get like this is a risk that you’re going to have to face this legal hassle because the bar for grounds for the case to go ahead is going to be passed because of the situation - it’s fixed in a tangible medium for all to see.
The more famous you are and your product is, the more fan interactions you have. More fan interactions means more suggestions. In other words, the bigger you are, the more dice you have to roll about this legal issue coming up.
It doesn’t matter how often you win. Because you have to pay legal fees for every case. And most of the people who are going to cause this problem don’t have the money to reimburse your legal fees, no matter what the court commands. They’ll go bankrupt and start over. You’ll still have bills. Growing piles of them as you try to stay above water.
So, in that case, as an honest assessment of the situation, do you want to just let the dice roll and hope for the best? Or do you just put up your hands and say: no, I’m not playing. The risk is too high for me, even if it works out, and too low for everyone else, even if it goes completely against them.
The logical incentive is to do what seananmcguire does and ask not to play the game. Running the numbers is always bad for the professional. Because the numbers never favor them.
It’s a toss up who it is worse for. An independent professional is going to run out of funds much quicker because they’re 100% responsible for their own funding. A professional who works for a big company might rely on them for funding the legal case. But corporations are heartless about running the numbers. If you’ve never been in a room with money people you have no idea how cold it is. It’s never, “hey, I’m worried, let’s fire a couple thousand people to protect our profit margin, to be safe,” it’s the calm reassurance that, “The bonds will be repaid.” And when those people see a profit margin error with an artist who attracted unnecessary legal trouble - on the chopping block the professional artist goes. And they go on the block as fast as an exec calculates they can get away with it. Which means they’re out of a job. And the money people at the next job will make very careful considerations about hiring them at all.
And that’s just the technical issue. Just the legal and monetary repercussions. And only from one direction. If the fan gets a clever lawyer the case will be based on something completely different. And I just used text because once you add images in addition, there are more laws that apply. For the comics industry I wouldn’t be surprised if Trade Secret applied in addition to Trademark and Tradedress. …At least I think there are Tradedress issues with how the comic books themselves are designed. I don’t know. Maybe not. Besides the point anyway.
There is, as already mentioned, the social problem. And who wants to deal with that when it’s a storm just saying, hey, this is legally difficult and I don’t want to engage. Just a pain.
I feel like what somebody should really do is make an easy access legal faq for fans. I suspect it gets done all the time. But, you know, just a nice link of: Please click here to get an explanation. Maybe if I have another day like today of obsessive internetting and refusing to eat I’ll start on that.
I’ve been watching this go back and forth and watching people write very beautifully-constructed responses as to why people shouldn’t do this specific thing to Seanan, but honestly, it all comes down to this:
She asked you not to do it.
A friend of mine in the local con circuit has a very strong reaction to people coming up behind her and talking when she can’t see them, especially if she’s sitting down. This happens sometimes at cons and is “normal” to do to a certain extent in a busy bar: people come up to a table, possibly behind someone, and say hello.
But, and this is important, we don’t do that to this friend, because she asked us not to, because it upsets her. We make sure to come up to a table she’s at in a way that she can see us.
It doesn’t matter if it’s legal or generally socially acceptable in that group. It. Doesn’t. Matter.
What matters is that this person asked us not to, for whatever her reasons are, which she does not owe to us.
Seanan does not owe you reasons for you to not do things to her that she has asked you not to do to her.
Seanan has every right to be treated in a very reasonable way that she requests, and has requested repeatedly.
Please stop defending your “right” to do things to my friend that she has asked you not to do.
Please stop doing that thing to my friend. It’s rude. It’s not okay. It’s not cool. You are not being cool when you do that. You are being a jerk.
It’s really that simple.
True and well said. Though it’s worth noting, it *does* help some people to have a logical explaination behind the request.
What I’m saying is “because she said she didn’t want you to” is all the logical explanation people should need, and if it isn’t enough, that’s not on Seanan, nor is requesting further explanation than “because I don’t want you to” anything like ok behavior.
Frankly, at this point, I don’t care if it helps people to have a logical explanation to stop throwing angry ducks at my friend. The only explanation that matters is that Seanan doesn’t want angry ducks thrown at her.
Any other explanation is on people to find out on their own and not ask of her (or those close to her tbh) because please don’t throw angry ducks at me is all the emotional labor she owes people.
Yanno? I shouldn’t have to reframe it as “please don’t scream in my friend’s face” or “please don’t throw angry ducks at my friend” or “please don’t touch my friend” for people to understand.
Yet here we are with people needing for some reason to have essays typed up for them (and they are very nice essays) so they understand why they shouldn’t pull people’s pigtails on the playground.
BECAUSE SHE SAID STOP, THAT’S WHY.
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