This is mainly a rant but like. Whatever they're doing in the new season is so stupid and convoluted like why would you do that. Even beyond the fact that the writers are shit and can't even do one plot well, let alone all this other bullshit, having this many plots happening is just way too cluttered. Why was Lila even built up to be this big bad if you were going to introduce a bigger bad immediately after. "Oh she's actually extremely manipulative, she's tricking three separate women into thinking she's their daughter!" and then they do this? Why? Are they trying to capitalize on the fact that people liked the idea of The Supreme from the Paris special and they wanted to reel people in by bringing it into canon? Cause that's what it feels like. Wow repeat of Chloe and Hawkmoth. Lila's the shitty teenage girl they're trying to build up but there's adult villains so why waste time on the shitty teenage girl and you were claiming she was somehow worse than the adult villains or something? Also if they're adding an entire secret organization they're either gonna add to the cast bloating (high chance most of those symbols or whatever are never gonna be revealed or they're gonna be like Colt and will be DOA so the writers can just mention them once as someone's sad backstory and then never again) or they're gonna retcon older characters into being members of an evil organization and either way is just shitty writing.
Also why would you add this whole backstory of Ivan having basically a watered down version of the knowledge and support that Adrien should be getting if you weren't gonna use that to make Marinette regret everything she's done and tell Adrien immediately? Why are you having her say the shit she should be saying to Adrien to someone else? Ivan is a side character, why give him that backstory? It's not even gonna be relevant later in the show it's just a shitty one off to make Marinette see the same thing Adrien doesn't know he's going through and make her look sad at Adrien and the not have her come clean? Oh, right. Because her own discomfort at dealing with Adrien's feelings is more important. She wasn't actually sad for Adrien. She was upsette that she was being guilt tripped. She also showed Nathalie Gabriel's letter for fucks sake and like ignoring all the shit they're doing with making Nathalie still actually evil (which is stupid!!!!!!!), this is a yet another major disrespect of Adrien's autonomy. I don't even like Gabe and I think reading his shitty will and showing it to other people is just absolutely disgusting controlfreak behavior.
And yes, I did also think that this was the writer's way of passing the blame from Marinette, cause we all know they're reactive like that. TA hates that people still like Chloe? Makes her an idiot and deports her from the country to be abused. Hates that people are critical of his show? Makes a "meta" episode in retaliation. Etc. etc. Like I can believe he got sick of everyone rightfully shitting on Marinette for the absolutely shitty way she's been treating people and so they're gonna make Nathalie manipulate her so they can't blame her anymore. But like everything else with the show, it's badly done and not only are they not gonna land this one (do they ever?), my prediction is they're gonna try to have their cake and eat it too like with everything else. "oh Nathalie wasn't actually evil. She was just being manipulated by her shitty evil organization dad. she was actually trained as a child to be the perfect henchperson but it was done against her will so she's actually abused so you have to forgive her like you forgive felix and not chloe. Nathalie's actually a good person and you're stupid for ever thinking she was evil. after all, she had good intentions, she had to be manipulative. as you see in this ep, she's a double agent and she's gonna help Marinette (only Marinette, be prepared for another BugNoir appearance) bring the organization down. also, Marinette isn't to blame for lying to Adrien because Nathalie manipulated her but Nathalie also isn't to blame because she had to do what she had to do to fight against the organization and they """won""" in the end so it's fine! we planned this from the very beginning!!"
And the worst thing is that they're probably gonna drag this arc on for another 10 years and basically every single little they're starting with or inevitably introduce is gonna be abandoned or brushed off. There's gonna be no pay off to this. Marinette's gonna lose the miraculouses like several more times and somehow it won't actually be her fault. There's twelve sections or whatever in that organization. One for each of the Zodiac. Bets now on the side character heroes getting their miraculouses swiped and given to those twelve members. And then that plot point will also die out because the writers can't be bothered to stick to one thing and make it good. They gotta do a lot of different things and do all of them badly.
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Yeah, like, that's exactly it. The evil organization is just an obvious combined scapegoat and social media hype engine. It's so transparent what they're doing here and I just can't be bothered to be interested even in how theyāll fuck it up, because I already know exactly how they'll fuck it up. They're gonna do the same thing all lazy writers do with evil cabals, they're gonna pretend everything that's happened in the series has been part of their masterful evil plan all along, all villains are either working for or being manipulated by them and everything the heroes do has been predicted by them. Instead of making the story and world more interesting, it's gonna suck what little interest there is right out. Dragon Age Veilguard did it, Young Justice did it, Evil Within did it, Neon Genesis Evangelion did it and that's where Astruc most likely plagiarized it from.
Never mind that the writers have a long history of losing interest in any concept that takes them too long to implement. We still don't know what two of the power-up potions do and only the flight one keeps getting utilized. We got two additional heroes whose character arcs were improved by getting a Miraculous in Alya and ChloƩ with everyone else just happening to have a problem that thematically corresponds with the Miraculous they get in the episode without it really impacting the episode more than giving them more confidence or something else they could do even without a Miraculous. Or they just get slapped with a Miraculous because the writers needed to fill up the roster, especially when the last four were just handed out like free candy in a single episode because the writers lost interest.
The writers will introduce an element of mystery that the fandom can make guesses about, like what power-ups the different potions give and what Miraculous and powers which classmate will get, and then they'll lose interest partway through. Weāll get maybe two interesting reveals out of this council, with the rest either adding nothing to the story or getting unceremoniously dropped. Like, I wonder when Ray's gonna be interesting? He was introduced in 'Daddycop' but we most likely won't see him again until ZoĆ©'s spotlight episode because there isn't enough time or focus to build him up because the writers are just throwing everything at you to try to get you engaged again.
the writers are just throwing everything at you to try to get you engaged again.
"Hey guys, looks: We're doing Seelie It's like Evangelion, but Miraculous, aren't you interested? Don't you want to theorize adn speculate and write fanfics for us to crib off of and pretend we're masterminds!?
Aren't you engaged with the story again!?"
No.
This is just more jingling keys for the fandom. It means nothing. Like the return of the Guardians meant nothing. Like Marinette losing the Miraculous to Gabriel meant nothing. Like how Adrien's potential as anything but a love interest meant nothing.
You already wrote Tomoe as a potential villain with her being allied to Gabriel and swearing to continue his legacy last season. This is just sensationalization up for that idea of co-conspirators coming back to haunt Ladybug.
It doesn't change anything. Heck, as a potential villain Tomoe's greatest weakness was the fact that Nathalie's testimony could put her behind bars. She's a villain with an instant-win button for Marinette to beat her with. The same thing applies to Not!Seelie, and the only tension would come from whether or not Marinette pushes the win button at the expenses of Nathalie, Kagami, and Adrien.
The same problem that sending Tomoe to prison posed, just made larger for empty drama.
But that's par the course for Miraculous isn't it?
The pulling from Evangelion especially gets me because Evangelion is a good show. I love it. If I want to watch Evangelion, I would just go watch it. I wouldn't put on a show for 10 year olds to see a worse version. Taking inspiration from a much more mature show doesn't make any sense because they're not going to pull the audience. ML isn't a mecha. It has a kids rating that blocks it from accessing a lot of the more mature themes of Evangelion. It doesn't have the world building set up to rip off Evangelion.
If they wanted to go a darker route, there are magical girl animes they could pull from (cough madoka cough). Why did they decide to pull from a show from a different genre, with a different rating, and different themes at its core? What was the point? They're not going to bring any new fans in with this.
huh....i mean personally I thought the councel was a obvious parallel to hawkmoth. Like the premise of the show is that when you get upset or distressed about something and feel lije you aren't supported you get emotional and reactive...wanting to solve if directly yourself...but because your so emotionally invested you can often choose the worst route to try to get your feelings acknowledged. Like when you shout or lash out cuz you think no one is listening even though that could maje people less likely to consider your position no matter how justified you are. And it can leave you vulnerable to others who might encouraged those impukses as good ideas even if it mjght make your situation worse because it would help their own agenda.
The akuma villians, even though they agreed to the power and THINK they are in control are still very much victims on manipulation from hawkmoth approaching them while they are hurt abd vulnerable abd can not truly consent. And that rather than punish the akuma villians...the heros win by seeing they are victims. Stopping them from hurting others but also finding out the core issue which they need to know to find the item that can represent that issue....by breaking it open it shows the heros/others ither than hawkmoth ARE listening abd paying attention which can snap the people out of those negative emotions enough to think clearly and accept better or alternate solutions. Where hawkmoth is the big bad for manipulating and taking advantage of people who are desperate and at a low point. And those villians are seen as victims compared to hawkmoth...who the heros see as simply bad for a majority of the show.
After all in real life most people aren't going to look into WHY someone is crashing out or lashing out...they are just going to deal with the attack or villainous behaviour at face value and see them as a villian. What makes the heros stand out is they find out WHY the victims became villians and don't let their impulsive villainous actions in their attempts to solve their problems overshadow that they need help and that they acted out fir a reason...and that the REAL villians are the ones taking advantage and encouraging people who need genuine help tp act on those impulses.
And so the twost that the big bad villian who has been taking advantage of all these aluma victims in fact being a hurt desperate person who is trying to solve a problem and fix someone he loves but that he is going about it in the worst way because he thinks no obe will help and that he has to solve it on his own. Like no matter how valid the emotion of a akuma victim it still gets twisted by their actions. So hawkmoth being a desperate husband trying to save his wife who ends up going about saving her the wrong way where he can't see its not actually solving the issue or might not be the onky route because his determination and hurt is blinding him...makes sense.
And so ladybug and chat should in theory based on the themes of the show...be able to truly defeate hawkmoth by seeing him as a persona and connecting to the desperate man .
The show is even clear that even kf tgey are victims...you still need to stop them from hurting others and ots onky once you take away their ability to hurt others that they might be more open to kther solutions.
The issue is the show spent so long undercutting any nuance gabriel had that we don't trust his emotions or intentions and the show deliberately plausible with that disconnect by having undercut any nuance in him for so long and them shoving him being remorseful in seemingly at the kast second. Sonething we are clearly meant to distrust now as mari clearly doesnt ACTUALLY believe in Gabriel being nuanced despite her feeding that idea to others.
Which makes sense because mari does t know all the details of how gabe ended the way he did like they normally might find out about the victims in a akuna attack. She was mostly biased due to adrien.
I actually think the council is actually meant to fix this....as in the show gabriel and marinette have STRONG parallel to eachother...not just in background but in how they can deal with problems or emotional issues which has been seen since the early seasons...the show would try to distract you from it by trying to present mari as good a d gab as bad alot but their behaviors can be errily similar. Vut they have only actually tried addressing some of those parallels in season 6.
I think marinette who we have seen as meaning well and good is going to showcase how if even someone as good as her can spiral into doing sketchy things it will help us actually understand that Gabriel could have been just as good as mari and spiraled into being bad(especially when we saw his best self in the betterfly special.
And the show runs on compare and contrast to fill in gaps about characters.
I think the council is going to be the new hawkmoth so to speak...as in the one who manipulates hurt desperate people into doing its bidding to get the resukts the council wants where their victims think they are in contrrol. They think their interests align and that its their choice to work with them...when in reality they can't think ckearly abd are being tajen advantage of by the manipulator encouraging impulses that won't actually solve the issue.
Akuma victims agree to the powers fod their own ends and justify working with hawkmlth to themselves...not realizing hawkmoth is encouraging behaviour that mkght make their situation worse. And they are still clearly victims who were taken advantage of.
We are used to hawkmoth being the big bad...but just like how the regular citizens only ever see the akuma villians doing ghe attacking/the dirty work..like stoneheart before they realized he was ivan and found out about hawkmoth..my bet is hawkmlth is the equivalent of a akuma villian/victim who is creating the scene/doing the dirty work. He THINKS he agreed and is in control of his own free will...but he has been manipulated and encouraged when he is emotionally desperate and at a low point to handle thing in the worst way that might not solve his issue ir could make it worse for him just like regular akuna victims.
The council problem used gabriel insecurities and want to ve accepted by Emilie pa
