Supernatural gave us Destiel wedding.
And Destiel divorce.
And Destiel widower arc.
And Destiel BABY.
But sure Dean and Cas are not a couple.
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Supernatural gave us Destiel wedding.
And Destiel divorce.
And Destiel widower arc.
And Destiel BABY.
But sure Dean and Cas are not a couple.
The particular quality that makes Supernatural so unprecedented as queer media is specifically that they DID allow the characters to grow and change past what their initial plan for them was. That's why Cas's confession matters so goddamn much. We've had queer media before, of course, but not like this. Not the way Supernatural did it.
A lot of times, shows get called queerbait incorrectly, specifically because the audience sees potential, and they COULD take it there, but the showmakers don't take it there because that was never the plan. This includes things like BBC Sherlock and the MCU. Without the active choice to make Destiel a viable canon, this is where Supernatural would fit. Not going along with a popular ship that wasn't planned to exist in the first place is not queerbait.
Actual queerbait happens when the showmakers never intend it but act like they are gonna, promote the story as such, and then actively choose not follow through. This is where I'd put things like What We Do in the Shadows. It's a promotional stunt, done to attract viewers via the Will-They-Won't-They, knowing full well that They Won't.
Both the queerbait and not-quite-queerbait things often have an extra salt rubbed in the wound by slapping a big giant helping of Excessively Het Stuff on top at the end, juuuust to make sure we get the message that This Is Not For You. This is where you get things like Steve Rogers going back in time to marry Peggy thereby destroying 10 years & multiple movies & shows worth of character development and other character relationships. Compulsory Het additions are used just to really emphasize that yeah, they're SUPER FUCKIN STRAIGHT and SOULMATES.
As a narrative example, in the case of queerbait, excessively het endings are like that high school prank trope, where someone pretends they're gonna take the loser to prom, then shows up with their Real Date to throw eggs at them on the porch on prom night. In the case of not-quite-queerbait, the excessively het ending is where you have that popular kid that's always nice to the loser, that the loser has a crush on, but is still gonna date the other popular kid, not out of spite, but simply because they weren't interested in the first place.
But we do have a realm of Queer media that plans to be queer and follows through, like Heated Rivalry, Our Flag Means Death, Sense8, assorted movies. But there's a different flavor to media like this. It starts out and carries through as openly queer. It celebrates queerness. But often, because it is so openly queer, these get boxed in as "Queer Show" to the exclusion of all else. It's advertising focuses on that it's queer. The narratives often revolve around what it means to be queer. Narrative elements that aren't Being Queer are, very often, just a backdrop. The stories are incredibly conscious and aware of their queerness, of their queer audience. They deal with themes around identity, the closet, sexuality, family dysfunction, societal expectations, religious and authoritarian pressure, fear of rejection, grief, romance, safety, isolation — things that are deemed "the Queer experience". And these are absolutely fair themes to apply; there's a reason those resonate.
Now. Supernatural.
Supernatural didn't set out to directly be queer media. It has always held elements of it, yes, and I will argue for that forever. But it's intended audience was not out and proud queer people the way that Queer Media (tm) was. It talks about several similar themes — patriarchal pressures, grief, family dysfunction, the conflict between sacrifice for the community vs. choosing what is right for yourself. It's one of the reasons why other queer themes like the closet slot in so easily. But the characters were not intended to be out and proud and open. Often when queer media features a character in the closet, the narrative is about them coming out. It deals with their interiority around their sexuality — guilt, shame, passion, fear. At some point, they're always intended to Come Out.
Supernatural handles the closet differently. A queer reading of Supernatural deals with a character that has no intention of ever coming out. For whom the closet is still more safe than it is a trap. And, importantly, there are other concerns than if it's safe to be openly queer. Being openly queer, after all, is about fulfillment and self-actualization. But Supernatural is a war story. It's narrative revolves around survival, around sacrifice, around saving the world. And so it's themes treat self-actualization as a distant dream. Often an unachievable one. Maybe one day, when the Mission is complete, we can stop. We can have a home and love and a life. ...but the Mission will never be over, will it? That life just isn't for us, I guess.
And then there's Cas. Cas, who comes from this hyper religious background, who undergoes religious indoctrination and re-education, who is given conversion therapy to literally kill the person that he loves. His love, in the eyes of heaven, is illicit, forbidden, in every sense. Cas who chooses to escape his cult for a beautiful boy that believes in him. Who gives up everything for Dean, always drawn to him specifically, protecting him, supporting him, sacrificing for him. Cas, who misses and loves his family in spite of their rejection and abuse, who keeps fighting and begging for them to see him, to give up their prejudices and see the beauty that he sees, to be free of the prison they have made for themselves.
And Dean, for whom family is everything. Dean who is willing to sacrifice everything if it means protecting innocents. Dean who craves comfort and safety for himself, but moreover, someone that he can feel safe to drop the mask around. And then he meets Cas, who becomes his best friend. Who sees his vulnerabilities and weaknesses and doesn't judge him for them, who accepts him - all of him. Who also is willing to do the hard thing, to make the big sacrifices, to protect the innocent. Cas who is funny, and steadfast, and strong, and kind but also kind of a bitch, who loves humanity as much as Dean does.
They make each other want to be better. They challenge each other. They accept each other and support each other, even when they fail. They help each other up, dust them off, and say let's try again. We'll do better this time. They fight the good fight, but they also protect each other's right to rest, to have things for themselves for once.
Is it any wonder that the audience looked at this and said oh. Obviously they're in love.
But they didn't start out that way. Cas wasn't supposed to be there. He was meant to die three episodes in. A minor throwaway character, there to serve a quick purpose, and be discarded.
But the energy just felt... interesting. Lightning in a bottle, they called it. The way Cas and Dean clicked onscreen, the way they reacted to each other. And so the showrunners reworked the plan. And they kept reworking it. And kept reworking it. Every season, every new showrunner, every new writer, adding on. Misha and Jensen, adding their spin.
It wasn't planned. Not initially. But it worked, and it made the story better, made it more interesting. Cas & Dean's dynamic was interesting, and it made each of their characters as individuals better. Offered complexity and complication and subtlety.
It would have been so, so easy for them to leave it at that. No one would have been surprised if they left it at that. I'm sure many would have cried queerbait — they already were. And others would have been very smug and triumphant with yet another win over the gays, I'm sure. Because fuck us and our exhausting wish to feel seen and accepted, right?
But they didn't. They chose to go there. Cas confessed, and it was explicitly romantic, explicitly and openly queer. and it mattered. It mattered SO MUCH because it wasn't originally planned. Because the writers and showrunners of Supernatural, for all their flaws, were willing to follow through on an element of the story that developed over time, instead of chickening out, or forcing it to fit a heteronormative mold. They let the characters develop and change and grow according to what clicked in the narrative, according to what made the story more interesting. One of Supernatural's strengths is that, in spite of it's formulaic plot structuring, in spite of all the negative influences against it, they managed to coax out characters that feel True and Real. Not always, and sometimes they have setbacks, but when they nail it, it's because they let the characters develop instead of fighting it. Cas's confession was so, so earned. Taking something that had been implicit, that had underlaid the entire show if you knew what to look for, and bringing it into the open where everyone can see it. And that was something they excelled with from the start with Cas — they saw character & story potential and they used it.
The love is explicit. It is canon. The queerness is there, openly, verbally, on screen. It's there, and it's ours, and it is true. And it validates everything that Destiel fans had been seeing and arguing for for years.
And to me, one of the most important things about this is that it was a struggle. This wasn't like most openly queer media, where you can come into it comfortable that the queer love would be there. This is a show where queer readings have had to fight tooth and nail to be taken seriously. And we were fucking right.
Jensen Ackles as Mark Meachum COUNTDOWN (2025) | 1.03 – “Happy Birthday Final”
The middle seasons Athena/Bobby/Michael dynamic is just the funniest relationship imaginable.
Athena can’t turn around without Bobby and Michael robbing a bank, organising a heist on the neighbours, or smashing up her house.
Michael has to constantly deal with their kinky Captain/Sergeant shtick, and them traumatising the kids with roleplay bullshit.
Bobby arrives at a fire scene, and his wife and her ex are immediately there for no apparent reason.
Athena’s husbands have unionised and Bobby is the third in a marriage that’s already over and Michael’s best friends are his ex-wife and her new husband.
Unparalleled.
10 fics i read in 2021 that gave me brainworms
Half empty by sinnabonka: very dean-focused, this fic reads like a puzzle that needs figuring out. Top notch writing
The cheapest room in the house by biggaybenny: dean finds out cas is gay. The writing is stunning. If you suffer from heavy dean coding this is the fic for you
Pies and prejudice by linoresearch: you know that feeling when you put on a romcom because your brain needs a snack, and shit, it turns out it’s actually amazing? This destiel au thar combines bake off with pride and prejudice is exactly that
There is rest for the wicked by fleeceframe: unlike us, dean gets his well deserved rest. This fic just… sticks to your ribs and doesn’t let go
Fenario by ftmsteverogers: s15 fix-it that had me screenshotting paragraphs over and over because the writing was almost poetry. Dean is superbly written here
A winter’s tale by northernsparrow: this changed how i view the human!cas arc forever. Category: fics that will make you cry
The full experience by nickelmd: fake dating. There’s a dolphin scene i cannot stop thinking about
Life skills by ilovehowyouletmefall: one of the tags is ‘dean: fellas it’s not gay if it’s in a 3-way right?’ and that pretty much sums it up. Heavy dean derangement
What has eight tentacles and isn’t allowed to eat pie? by annie D: octopus!dean. Best first kiss i’ve ever read
And this your living kiss by opal_bullets: reread this year, um, a few times. I will not stop reccing this until everyone has read it
just witnessed a girl spot her friend in the grocery store and instead of calling her over she started making turkey noises. and her friend, who apparently recognized her call, responded with higher pitched turkey noises before she even saw her and they used turkey echolocation to find each other. friendship between girls is a beautiful thing <3
The thing about season 8 is that they were clearly trying to make Destiel happen. There is no other way to take in the events of that ENTIRE season without going- oh yeah Dean is queer and also pining for the angel. The CW clearly did not like that and shot that storyline down, but COME ON…
- Dean spent a year in Purgatory by CHOICE bc he wouldn’t leave Cas
- love triangles! Dean/Benny/Cas vs Sam/Amelia/her husband
- Benny saved Dean in Purgatory vs Amelia saved Sam from his grief/hunting
- Dean being a huge dick about Amelia, Sam being a huge dick about Benny
- Salmon Dean both going through a “break-up” in Larp after they chose to stick together rather than keep Amelia/Benny in their lives
- Literally every conversation between Dean and Benny is so sexually charged it’s stupid.
- Benny was down bad for Dean… he DIED for him when he knew he couldn’t be a part of Dean’s life topside.
- Dean was so fucked up at the thought Cas would CHOOSE to stay behind his brain altered his memory. No magic here, folks. Just a desperate broken heart.
- After Cas ditched him, again, Dean was so eager to do the trials so he could die for the cause. Cas left him so he wanted to DIE. Girl, get a grip.
- He was so fucked up in fact, he turned down a one-night stand with one of the coolest and hottest women they’ve met. He really tried to say “i want to just nows not a good time” and she said “no you really dont” translation GAY.
- and then after that 1st trial Dean praying to, I’m sorry, “begging” Cas to come back.
- Then the crypt! WHAT THE FUCK.
- You are telling me we were supposed to watch brainwashed Cas kill hindreds of DEANS and accept it was a hetero connection
- BI LIGHTING
- “What broke the connection?” genuinely shut the fuck up
I could obviously go on, but my hand is tired of typing on my phone.
Oh- side note- it was only a few months after S8 finished airing that Misha tweeted “youre not crazy” so… I mean I AM. But. It was there. Textually. And they gaslit us into thinking it was subtext or fan fetishization so much that we have been feral posting for years and years, defending what we saw happening on our screens.
I hate Supernatural. It’s my favorite show.
This got me utterly sick i cant stop thinking about this video
The most PATHETIC lil baby sounds...
I love when little creatures who are entirely loved and well cared for have the BIGGEST baby reactions to normal things. Like yes sweet pea, you DO have the hardest life of anyone ever, for sure, and you’re SO BRAVE about this minor inconvenience of *checks notes* having some water touch you
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this reply in the comments tho
This did not go where I expected from the first tweet and now I am laughing so hard I am crying.
Cannot mentally or spiritually believe they called the Jensen Misha Alex photo op "my two dads"
they should do it again. look at how right that looks
seven years later i am still not over the fact that dean killed himself because cas was dead and cas never even found out
and to make it even worse, it happened the same episode cas came back to life. dean killing himself to join cas in death, not knowing that cas is actually alive? literally the plot of romeo and juliet aka the most famous love story of all time. and this was never fucking resolved
truly the show of all time (derogatory)
also for those of us millennials who had our romantic awakening supercharged by Baz Luhrmann’s 1996 masterpiece Romeo + Juliet, the visual parallels are unmistakable and can only be intentional.
I MEAN
some wiiiiiiiiiild bullshit
“Why is snoop dogg at the Olympics-“
WRONG QUESTION!
WHY ISNT MARTHA STEWART THERE WITH HIM?
she is! she’s joining him for the equestrian events because, and I am quoting her directly, “Snoop is afraid of horses.”
Update:
this is 100% real btw
In Paris this week, he said: “I am interested in the horses that dance and I want to give them some carrots and apples … make sure they’re fed before they do their thang.”
Stewart explained the pair’s dressage plan.
“Snoop called me and said he knows I know horses, and he’s a little fearful of horses,” the businesswoman, philanthropist and octogenarian Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover model told NBC on Friday.
“I’m still scared of horses,” Snoop said.
“Have you ever ridden a horse?” Stewart asked.
“No,” said Snoop. “I’m scared.”
“So we’re gonna do dressage,” Stewart said.
This is so lovely and heartwarming that I almost didn't notice that Snoop's wearing knee high spats
EPILOGUE
He got to meet the horses!!
He even got to feed them carrots like he wanted to, even though he seems to be nervous! Such courage and valor! /Gen!
This is clearly the coolest day of that white guy's life. It's the coolest day of the horse's life. This is the coolest day of all of our lives. Mr Dogg, thank you for being who you are.
Can we just take a sec to also thank Mr. Snoop Dog for saying that he was scared to do something and called a friend to help him. And then did the scary thing. I think that admitting you’re scared of something takes courage and inner strength.
This is why Snoop is unironically one of my heroes.
Jensen Ackles | Video presented at the 2016 Smile Gala on September 30th, 2016