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Memory loss Jon is found lost Somewhere Else and assigned the name John Doe. Overtime he slowly realizes that as he's writing his name in various situations he keeps forgetting to add the h and eventually decides to forgo it altogether
Whenever Jon gets annoyed, Martin just runs his hands through his hair and scratches his scalp to calm him down. It annoys Jon how well it works bc Jon will be arguing with like Tim or someone and Martin Does The Thing and he calms down
I LOVE the headcanon that Jon proposed to Martin at Upton House but doesn't remember I WILL be using it to hurt both my own and everyone else's heart
thinking now and forever about jmart clinginess
in the safehouse, Jon is the clingy one. after a good old fashioned What Are We talk, Jon goes in hard with the physical affection. not to mention, Martin's fresh out of The Lonely so he needs that grounding at times, though he's rarely the one to initiate it himself. he's happy to cuddle, but he still feels strange asking for it after. everything in his life. meanwhile Jon is sick of everything in his life and Dangit He Wants To Hold His Boyfriend, so he does <3 often <3 he hugs him from the front and buries his face in his chest, he hugs him from the back and buries his face between his shoulder blades, he alternates between being the little spoon tucked in Martin's arms and the big spoon clutching Martin protectively in his own. Martin is more than happy to indulge. especially since Jon likes to have his hair played with.
maybe at Upton House things are a bit different. Jon's clingy, but maybe a bit less so if only because he's wary of Annabelle. Martin's a bit more used to their relationship now, so he can stand to hug Jon from behind and press a kiss to the top of his head without needing to ask, sure in the knowledge that Jon would like nothing more than for him to do that.
somewhere else, Martin gets clingier than ever. arguments are had, things are said, but Martin still can't leave his side. and once things quiet down again and forgiveness is given as it's due, he goes back to hugging Jon from behind, though much more carefully now. his fingertips ghost around the edges of that scar on his chest before pressing his palms down gently across Jon's front. Jon leans his head back against his chest and smiles as if the scar wasn't there. as if Martin hadn't caused it. they go to bed and Jon gets in the habit of stroking Martin's hair as he rests his head on his chest, carefully listening in case a heartbeat disappears. Martin is practically glued to his hip, those days, and Jon would only ever mind it if he could see the guilt in his eyes. And if he could, he'd have Martin lay his head in his lap and stroke his hair until he fell asleep with his nose buried in his stomach.
eventually Martin is able to just ask for the affection he wants without guilt or apprehension once more. and by then they're both evenly insufferable in their displays of affection <3.
me when i think about how if jon and martin made it out of the eyepocalpse they 100% would’ve broken up
prev. tags: #i can’t imagine them surviving and having an emotionally healthy relationship afterwards #john would have survivors guilt #martin wouldn’t know how to cope
i love tma sickfics because the one and only time “staying home sick” was mentioned in the show it turned out the character was being held hostage for 2 weeks, so there’s total canon justification to make your blorbo break down the door of any other character to check on them, even if they don’t like them very much. and then get stuck taking care of them cause what are you just supposed to LEAVE after that???
Tma is a story about choice and the dynamic between love and fear and i love how much when you think about it martin is such a perfect example for this.
Martin, hired by Elias solely to be disposable to Jon. Entirely there to be the assistant he can sacrifice or kill if necessary. An entire plan based around this situation happening; that's the only reason Elias hired him.
And it doesn't. Because Jon chooses to not be that archivist. He chooses to protect his assistants and not even that.
He was supposed to sacrifice him or kill him because of fear because of worry over what might happen. And he didn't. Because love won.
You can see TMA in every way you want but if there is one instance where love actually won against fear, it's that one.
This “every time you call him a monster, you’re forgetting that I am the same” conversation is 1000% what I was DYING for Jon to confront Martin about during the s5 “kill all the avatars cause they’re monsters” spree
More jmart rambles obviously spoilers for TMA bla bla the usual
I constantly see people criticizing Jmarts relationship in season 5 under the point of them not treating each other perfectly and i just genuinely do not get that point. Like Everytime I've seen something like that it's just "Martin said this thing to Jon in this episode and that really wasn't cool", and like yeah. That's the point.
I love how their relationship is executed in season 5 especially because of how flawed they stay. Because of how they constantly have talks with what they're okay with and what not, they communicate healthily about all this stuff. Like when martin and Jon have that conversation where martin tells him he really doesn't like it when he looks into his head unless it's like 100% necessary and how he should refrain from that. I loved that i thought it was so great because they communicated it so well.
And yes sometimes they say hurtful things to each other, in both directions. The example I can remember while rambling rn is Jon going "well not all of us were able to shut away from the world before it was doomed" (roughly quoted i don't remember 100%). And yes that's not awesome but they're both in the literal apocalypse, emotionally drained and stressed out, clinging onto last slivers of Hope while watching everything around them go to shit. With that I'm not excusing These things but they're still people and i love that so much. Everytime it happens they also realize what they said wasn't fair and cool and they talk about it. I love it so much. Because at the end of the day they're still incredibly flawed and traumatized people and I'm honestly so glad they didn't get completely "fixed" because they're dating now.
I love how their relationship is portrayed so much BECAUSE it is flawed and real and you see relationships like this so rarely in media i feel like and it's just so nice to see a relationship that genuinely just feels real.
(this is also not like an attack to people who still don't like it i just wanted to explain my point thanks)
Don't imagine Martin visiting Jon in hospital and gently brushing Jon's hair whilst he talks about work, and what's going on in his personal life. Don't imagine Martin replacing wilted flowers, hanging fairy lights, and setting down two cups of tea (one of which he knows will remain untouched).
Don't think about Martin befriending all the nurses at the hospital and telling them all about Jon and what he's like when he's up and about. Don't imagine him doing an impression of Jon's idea of a hilarious joke (the joke never made anyone laugh, but the impression did).
Don't imagine Martin politely and subtly making sure Jon's being well looked after, and getting the best course of treatment. Don't think about the tenderness that comes from unconditional care and love with no expectations.
But most importantly, don't think about Jon's hair growing tangled, the nurses seeing less and less of Martin. Don't imagine how dull the hospital room became without Martin's thoughtful input. Don't think about the old cup of tea still sitting on the bedside table (it's behind a 'get well soon' card, only Martin would've noticed it).
It was Martin who succumbed to the lonely, but in a way it managed to take Jon too.
Hmmmm I think I will make a blatant Martin Apologist post
I always see people point to the way Martin acts in Upton House ("some of us know how to be good guests", laughing at Jon when he can't compel salesa etc) as an example of him being out of character/a bad boyfriend/generally sort of a shithead, which is fine if that's your takeaway, but I think Martin is manipulating that old man to filth and is in no way out of character
Not two seconds after all that happens and salesa refuses to give Jon his statement Martin is like "well 👉👈 fwiw 🥺 I would also like to know what happened? 😇" And salesa immediately buckles because he just likes Martin
Martin didn't even want to go into Upton House, He went in fully thinking it was a trap, saw a rich old man and said "oh cool. I know exactly what to do with this" and spent the rest of the time kissing ass for self preservation and getting answers for Jon.
Like maybe you don't like that he was a little mean to Jon to get there but the precedent has been SET for Martin manipulating old men it's definitely not out of character
FOR THE RECORD this isn't aimed at people who didn't like s5 or who don't always like Martin being mean I totally get that
Just that I stopped going to the main tags because there's always a post or three in there that goes "here's a list of reasons why I hate Martin/think Martin is a bad boyfriend/jonmartin is an unhealthy relationship" and I uhhhhh think those posts are........the worst
I think in this situation it's perfectly plausible Martin is in fact being kind of mean to Jon, and he's trying to get on Salesa's good side for Jon's benefit. Recall that with Lukas, Martin never claimed to dislike Jon and defended him on at least two occasions, but still was able to keep Lukas away from Jon and do things to help Jon directly. Lukas would say some untrue stuff about Jon, and Martin with argue, but apply a detached veneer to make Lukas think his defense was out of unfounded compassion. His context for his care was what Martin was more so being dishonest with, but not his actual feelings.
I think in situations like this, Martin is being pretty genuine, but distorting that in order to be a more effective liar. Because lying is always going to be more effective when you're not saying something that's completely untrue. Like you said, he did it with Lukas, so he's an old hand at being truthful but changing how he's being truthful. Of course Martin thinks Jon is a smug bastard, but not in the way Salesa does.
I've always felt like Martin being sort of an asshole is overlooked, mostly because it just contrasts with fanon too much. People want Martin to be a Sweet Cinnamon Roll Who Can Do No Wrong. When Martin doesn't fit that role, he's either out-of-character at best or an abusive boyfriend at worst. Neither of those things are true, but neither is his fanon interpretation.
Season 5 has a lot of narrative issues, I won't ever deny that. But I don't think Martin is being out-of-character at all. He's been sort of a petty jerk since not long after his introduction. He was mean to Basira just because Tim thought she and Jon were dating. He gave Melanie the cold shoulder when she first started working with him. He pressured Tim into giving a statement. The fact that Martin isn't in every episode is maybe the only thing that makes his meanness less apparent, I think, and then in Season 4 it's all excused as being subsumed by the Lonely so of course he's being mean. Which isn't a great argument, by the way, because Martin himself says the Lonely always had him, so his behavior there didn't come from nowhere.
He's especially mean to Jon in Season 5, honestly, just because we see more of the two of them directly interacting. He's complaining a lot, yes, but he complained a lot before and it's also worth keeping in mind how much stress both he and Jon are under. Martin is really blunt in Season 5, but I think a lot of that is him eschewing being quiet about how he actually feels. A lot of people took issue with Martin wanting Jon to be more open but also not wanting to listen to Apocalypse Statements--and that's a good criticism. In my opinion he's trying to set up boundaries but is going too hard in one direction, and doesn't actually know where to strike a balance.
And this is where we get into Jon and Martin's relationship. Jon says after they leave Salesa's that Martin saying "I'd rather be out here with you" is the nicest thing Martin's ever said to him. This isn't because of any direct issue with Martin, so much as it is that the apocalypse is not a place that curates a healthy relationship. Melanie implies that the apocalypse really exacerbated new relationship issues, and like! That's exactly it! Like Georgie and Melanie (worse, in some ways), Jon and Martin two people with a lot of issues trying to make a relationship work in a difficult situation. Of course they have an unhealthy relationship built on codependency and a myriad of other issues! That doesn't mean though that they don't love each other, or that their relationship is bad.
But that doesn't matter. What matters shouldn't be that their relationship is unhealthy and is pockmarked with difficulties every day. What should matter is how they try making it healthier every day, and try to find happy moments wherever they can. The hope that they can both have a happy relationship one day. That's what Martin was getting at, when he said he didn't want it all to be for nothing. He's a mess, and so is Jon, but he loves him anyways and wants to one day be able to not be as big a pair of messes anymore.
And isn't that an interesting character? A kind-but-not-nice person with a massive petty streak who holds a lot of hope for himself and his partner? Isn't that more interesting than someone who's biggest issue is, what, being an empath?
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prev. tags: i completely agree with you im definitely not saying that martin ISNT just being kind of mean just that it isnt out of character and that he isnt just being completely trusting in this house that he doesnt trust from the very beginning martin HAS had a spiteful side from the very beginning its just always bothered me to see people attribute a level of malevolence to his actions in season 5 that i dont think is there part of the reason why i love s5 jmart so much and I genuinely understand why some people dont like them is that they havent even had a chance to recover from anything thats ever happened to them its just one awful thing after another with no breaks even during the safehouse period they were on the run from the law and two creatures and you have to assume jon was dealing with statement withdrawal martin is adjusting to going from being completely isolated to being around another person CONSTANTLY im sure it was sweet and tender and romantic but also probably intense and volatile and even if it werent it was three weeks which is no time at all in this universe and also fundamentally jon and martin are two characters who struggle to interact with other people in their own distinct ways anyway all of that is to say I love that having a brief 'happy ending' doesnt undo all of that their relationship is a little bit of a light in the darkness for them but its still messy and it doesn't serve the function of a normal relationship in a normal world and i agree season 5 is not my favorite season for sure but i do mostly enjoy the arch of their relationship and also their individual character archs although personally i dont think jons 'thats the nicest thing youve ever said to me' is much more than a joke as weve heard martin say nicer things by this point i think they like being sort of affectionately mean to each other thats been their vibe since they actually started being friends
Obsessed with how the first thing to make Martin question where he is in The Lonely is how truly shitty his house is
Also, more obsessed with just how much Martin HATES being alone. How much he truly believes in the inherent goodness of just being around people. How it's so out-of-character for him to be alone that it actively makes him question why he's even there. And how desperately sad it is that throughout the series he just becomes more and more isolated until s5, all in the name of trying to protect the people he cares about, who for a long time keep telling him that they don't care about him or straight up don't like him
Thinking about how Martin persevered likely because he's quite used to people needing help but lashing out at him when he offers that he knows to just do it in silence
"I am Martin Blackwood, and I am not lonely anymore; I am not lonely anymore. I want to have friends; I – no, I have friends. I-I’m in love. I am in love, and I will not forget that; I will not forget."
I am shaking crying screaming I love them so much he's trying so hard! He has friends! He's in love! and there's not a Dread Power on earth or beyond that will make him forget it
So was anyone else waiting in vain for Martin to be discovered to be a von Closen or von Württemberg descendant (& relative to Mary Keay) because his surname is literally Blackwood = Schwartzwald or was that just me and my girlfriend? We thought we’d done a real 3D chess galaxy brain prediction but it turned out we were just overthinking it lol
Same! I’d kinda abandoned the idea by the time s5 was underway because it’d been way too long since the Von Closen stuff had even been mentioned but… ep 22 is the first time we hear Martins last name is Blackwood, and “Schwartzwald” is literally the next episode’s title, i mean, come on
prev tags: #the only problem was that tma has emphasized the UNimportance of bloodlines before #so to have this kind of twist comes more into star wars 'i AM your father' territory where family lines turn out to have powers outside of#the importance humans put into them #this usually was coupled with smthn smthn connection between that weird fucking tree next to the house #which is described in relative detail for no clear reason#tying that to the hilltop road weird tree #and then smtbn smthn web!martin
I think the end of mag 118 quite clearly encapsulates how I see martin's relationship to manipulation and his emotions. elias leaves, martin gradually brings himself down from sobbing, and he's back to business when melanie comes in, making sure the plan worked and that she isn't going to improvise and kill elias. none of the preceding scene was fake, he meant everything he said and all his feelings were genuine, but it was deliberate, and he will keep all those messy, vulnerable, personal emotions cordoned off until they're useful again.
S1 Jon: I have fantastic assistants on the job! Except Martin. Martin is useless and shouldn’t touch anything.
S2 Jon: Martin is always hanging around and asking if I’m okay and bringing me tea, it’s very… suspicious. His poetry sucks.
S3 Jon: I'm worried about everyone but I also kind of hope Martin is okay though
S4 Jon: Martin needs to be okay, he just has to be okay, I'm really worried about him but maybe we could idk run away together or something idk
S5: Martin is my anchor and my meaning and my entire purpose in this world, I love him more than life itself and he is exclusively the only reason I'm not a monster, also I love him
Ill be honest i dont vibe w the jon was always in love with martin narrative
Not because I hate love or whatever but I've fought for my share of product and funding before and ill be honest I think it was just a hate the library guy on principle
Like if my chef picked out four people to be his team and his chef above him sent in a fifth unannounced my chef wouldn't be happy. If the fifth, on the first day, let a cat in the kitchen?
Well.
Jon, meeting martin: cunt let a DOG in my office, on his first day I was supposed to pick MY OWN staff the archives are a fucking wreck and hes a LIBRARY bitch. Fuck him. Riot.
It’s my BIRTHDAY and I’m gonna rant about Jonathan Sims. Because I do what I want on my birthday.
A lot of the fandom has a problem with Jon because they think he’s cruel or just overall don’t like him because of how he treats others. But that’s an inherent misunderstanding of the character for the following reasons.
Starting off Jon is *very* clearly autistic coded. He has to be told when things are jokes and doesn’t really seem to understand social interactions (ex: when Tim thinks he’s sleeping with Basira and Jon doesn’t really catch on to what’s being implied). So that in itself very easily explains some of the rude or “cold” behavior going on. He doesn’t do it on purpose. Secondly Jonathan Sims does not give a single flying FUCK about himself. Ever since he was eight years old he’s been hating on himself and he’s lost almost anyone that got close to him or had them hate him for things he can’t control. Both his parents died, it’s explicitly stated his grandmother didn’t try and hide her resentment of having to raise him, and the grown adult that was bullying (beating him) got eaten by a giant spider and no one believed him. So of course he’s naturally closed off and keeps people at a distance. He doesn’t see himself as worthy of good things and he knows something bad will eventually happen. Even his relationship with Georgie that ended *well* still ended in completely cut contact. Thirdly, Jon is not a logic based character. He’s an emotional one. Every choice he makes is based on immediate emotional reactions. He finds out Martin was trapped in his house for a week? Immediately offers him to stay somewhere safe and insists on it. The archives are basically his safe space and the only thing he has and he offers them to Martin without thought. He finds out Sasha was replaced? IMMEDIATELY takes an axe to the thing he thinks did it without considering the consequences. The reason everyone says he’s a worse archivist than Gertrude is because he can’t slow himself down long enough to think of something other than protecting the people he deems more worthy than himself. Even when they treat him like shit which brings me to the next point. EVERYONE in Jon’s life blames him for what is entirely Elias’ fault and/or things they themselves have partaken in. And he thinks he deserves it. Jon is a good man. And a really really hurt one and it makes me a mess every time I think about it. Because he didn’t ever get peace. Another good point I feel like should be brought up is the way people often misinterpret the Jmart dynamic. Martin Blackwood kicks ass. Martin Blackwood is not a soft baby who can do no wrong. Man was down for murder. He was prone to anger and jealousy on a much more intentional front. Which is of course no hate to Martin I love him more than air. But I do think it’s interesting that certain parts of the fandom love to condemn characters for being people with flaws and tend to overlook Martin entirely in that assessment. Anyway! That is all. That is my rant.
