#antimasculinity

[ugly-anarchist]

People on this site cannot or intentionally refuse to distinguish between systemic oppression and lateral mistreatment and it's a massive problem.

Me talking about how other queer people target me for having masculine traits isn't me saying that cisallohet perisex men are oppressed for being men and feminism sucks and lesbians are evil.

Me pointing out how late diagnosed autistic people treat me like an other for getting a diagnosis early isn't me saying late diagnosed people are privileged and have power over me.

Me saying that aroaces have mistreated me and pushed me out of aspec spaces as an alloaro isn't me saying that aroaces are my oppressors and they don't belong in aro spaces.

"Can the people who are in the same community as me but have different experiences please stop treating me like shit" isn't me saying that I'm the most oppressed person on the planet and no one but me suffers. I'm just asking you to stop treating me like shit. That shouldn't be a controversial statement.

Not everything is about privilege and oppression, sometimes people are just dicks and maybe it's you.

[callahan----callahan-again]

something ive been thinking about lately is how i think a lot of young men are turned off by leftism because it doesnt promise a better world for them too. men often feel like a bit of an afterthought in leftist ideology. it feels like "women will be treated as equal human beings, people of color wont be arrested on the spot for not being white, genderqueer people will be able to present and exist however they want, trans people will have easy and consistent access to gender affirming care, queer people will be able to get married and have sex with whoever they want, and... men will stay the same!" NO!!!! men will be able to cry!!! men will be able to talk about their feelings!!! men will be able to wear skirts and makeup and like pink and be submissive without being seen as lesser!!! men will be able to do stereotypically masculine things without being seen as weird or sexist or something!!! men will be able to ask for help!!! men wont be excluded from spaces for being "an oppressor class"!!! men wont have their masculinity used against them, especially in abusive relationships!!! men will be able to talk about their abuse and mental health!!! men will be able to like matcha and crochet and clairo without being seen as manipulative!!! men will be able to be bicurious and explore their sexuality!!! men will be able to be ace and not seen as pussies and aro and not seen as abusers/sex pests!!! your leftism needs to be just as inclusive for men as it is for everyone else. equality and freedom in the sense of leftism is not something men are automatically privy to due to benefiting from the patriarchy under specific circumstances.

[sirenium]

full offense, some of y'all heard 'dismantle toxic masculinity' and took it as 'dismantle masculinity' and it shows.

[unimpressiveboyfriend]

this is what i mean when i say drag kings need more visibility. (in general trans men/mascs were WILDLY underrepresented in the queerty noms just like we are in the media in general)

[shamebats]

This comment section was excellent, lots of really valuable perspectives to learn from.

Tiktok OP's pronouns are she/her.

[ichliebemeinkissen]

trans woman: 'misandry' online is just a rabbit hole to transmisogyny because you guys think feminism is just hating anyone you see as too masculine / too close to masculinity

the dumbest people out there who have not done a days work of activism in their lives: youre just a dumb MAN upset that women are punching up. also pretty transphobic to insist trans women are affected by Man Problems TM

[souldisgrate]

So... turns out that if I identify as a man then I'm a less loving, less caring, less empathetic, less love-deserving and more dangerous monster that deserves to be always put down and thrown under the bus...

And turns out that if I identify as a nonbinary then there's literally nothing in this world that can be even PARTIALLY about me

"Oh men's love is just "I love you" and women's love is [insert any romantical shit in here] " and turns out that enbies don't exist.

Stfu. That's all NOT FUCKING FUNNY.

I feel invidated BOTH as enby and as a man. Always. So from the both fucking sides hell yeah because I'm not nearly a woman. Well. I'm so fucking tired of everything.

[is-antimasculinity-real]

we are so tired of the whole "transandrophobia isnt real because androphobia isnt real either!" thing because androphobia actually does exist. its the fear of men. and while we could be wrong, if we remember correcly, part of why transandrophobia is called that is related to weaponised fear, particularly against trans men of color. we could be wrong about that but it still is a pretty big problem how often the fear or hate of men ends up hurting marginalised men.

this is very very true.