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New History of the DC Universe Timeline Part Three
written by Dave Wielgosz research by Mark Waid & Dave Wielgosz
[Part One] [Part Two]
When I was a kid my mother apologized to me with gifts, typically the food kind, me? I would eat it up *literally* I would always consider everything forgiven.
Do you think Tim and Janet were ever like that?
(I don't like "Cruel Jack and Janet Drake because I said Tim Drake needs to be shit on! I like complexity and more to it. I like there being a background at least, i reason that I, as the reader, know. Currently I really like the thought of Janet having lost things because she had Tim)
With the packed lives the Drake's lived, having a child that doesn't see you often can't be easy. Be honest, I know things get on your nerves, someone, something, just a bad mood swing.
I can see a version of Janet being pent up, things aren't going smoothly at DI, a recent dig didn't produce what they were hoping for, the usual baby sitter cancelled last week and they had a get a new one and she's demanding a cleaning fee because Tim "spilled milk on her blouse", and on top of that the weathers shitty and that means cancelled flights. She and Jack are kept in from thunderstorms, I mean sure Janet maybe it is a level 4 hurricane and this is pretty bad but no-you're justified.
Tim, maybe 5-6 at the time hasn't really seen them in a bit, maybe his babysitter this time around wasn't a good one. Maybe while trying to make a bowl of cereal for himself she bumped into little Tim who was standing on a rolling chair he'd pulled over. Maybe little Timmy, who barely had a grip on the huge carton fell, and with him fell the milk, and with the milk falling it landed on her blouse, and the now half empty carton lands on Tim's head.
Maybe he comes down this time and is hoping to even just sit on the couch by his parents.
But when he plops down on the couch silently, scooching close enough to Janet to just feel the warmth but not touch, he grabs the remote. When he turns the tv on to some cartoon in blares loudly, the babysitter hadn't turned it down from last night.
Janet's already upset at this point, she's been rubbing at her temple for five minutes and the damn advil won't work. She has extra bills she needs to pay and calls she needs to make and galas she needs to reschedule and a child she needs to handle.
It comes out too loud and too quick when she screams at him to just not be a nuisance for once.
She doesn't truly mean it like that, she doesn't think.
It's just at this moment, this little kid is becoming a little burden.
She and Jack have all the money they need to buy the babysitter 20 new blouses that are better then the dirtied one.
But the thing is, she shouldn't have too.
And if this kid in front of her were just a bit more useful, she wouldn't be paying extra bills.
Looking down at her kid, she is seeing extra bills to keep the house warm, electricity bills she has to pay because he's scared of the dark, cereal and kiddy foods she needs to buy that she gets a migraine from eating but she has to buy it for him.
She also sees lost plane tickets and opportunities. If it were up to Janet, she wouldn't have a place her in New Jersey of all places. She'd get Jack to sell the manor and they'd get a place in New York. A place to just say she has, a place that she doesn't use. She'd be in Egypt and then zooming off to Greece, she'd visit the country side of England and see the beauty of New Zeeland.
If it was up to her, but it isn't, because this little child that isn't even half her age, or even a third of her height, controls her life.
So yeah, maybe Tim rushes up the stairs and back to his room, and maybe she hears a few cries when he does.
But 15 minutes later there's a knock on his door. He's clutching his little bat stuffy close to his heart when he opens it, not unlock - he would never lock his mother out -, peering out into the hallway.
There's a little madeleine on a try, in a bowl next to it is some cut up strawberries with chocolate drizzled over them. Tim eagerly accepts, and his mother kisses his forehead before walking back down the stairs.
And while he eats them, Tim might wonder if Janet cut these up for him, if she melted the chocolate, if she chose the kind of madeleine he likes -the little ones that are more golden brown then yellow- or if she had the maid do it.
And as Janet descends the stairs she wonders if she cut the strawberries right, if he won't choke on them. She hopes she got the madeleine right, she knows Tim is picky on the ones he eats. She can't quite remember if she used milk chocolate or dark, but she hopes its good enough. She hopes it shows she cares.
oh hey just remembered i found a book at the store the other day that listed out the timeline for pre-new52 batman. fascinating stuff to me only probably. gonna attach the photos but the text i’ll type out beneath a read more bc this bitch is long
How long between Jason dying and Tim becoming Robin full-time?
There's two answers to this question and it depends if you want to go Pre-New 52 (prior 2011) or Post DC Rebirth (2016). My goal is to keep this as simple as possible so I'll be using DC's 'canon' timelines.
Pre-New 52
Reference: Villains Timeline from Batman Villains Secret Files (1998), Batman Timeline from Batman: Secret Files (1997)
Year 7: Jason becomes Robin, then dies to the Joker
Year 8: Batman is alone
Year 9: Tim Drake, 13, puts on the Robin outfit to save Batman and Nightwing. He's then in training for an undetermined time before actually becoming Robin full-time.
Bonus: It's generally accepted that Tim trained for 6 months to become Robin, as that's usually standard for the other robins. However, I've been unable to find any panels that state this for Tim exactly. If we look at the comics themselves, "A Lonely Place of Dying", introducing Tim, was published January 1990. Batman 457, when Tim officially becomes Robin, was published December 1990. So there was a full year of comics where Tim was training on and off in the background. Does our time match to comic time? Who knows.
why the fuck was dc still publishing pre-zero hour tlos comics in action comics into 2008 when every other comic tlos was appearing in had been post-zero hour for fourteen years at that point
So, my dad made a Batfamily timeline idea. Where instead of Dick becoming Batman everyone did.
Here's how it went, Dick was the face Oracle would be tech, Tim is detective all working together. This stemmed from no one being able to be as big, work as hard as Bruce did. And keep their own lives so it was divided. For most of the batfamily taking various tasks, Jason going after the corrupt, Dick is criminals, Tim any detective work. Barbara has computer science
I like for things to make sense so whatever there’s like a vague timeline for something that is loose and unclear, I like to try and make it make sense and the timeline for the bat family is deeply confusing to me so I broke it down for myself, and I thought I would share my work
For the sake of simplicity, let’s say that when Bruce first became Batman, or at least hit the street for the first time as Batman he was 20 years old.
Fast-forward three years of him being Batman when he adopts nine year-old Dick Grayson. Bruce: 23 Dick 9
Then about nine years later, Dick leaves behind the mantle of Robin and becomes Nightwing, shortly after Jason becomes Robin. Bruce: 32 Dick: 18 Jason: 14
For a rough estimation, let’s say that Jason is killed when he’s 16 years old and is dead or mia for about five years. Then about a year after Jason’s death, Tim becomes the new Robin. Bruce: 34-41 Dick: 20-27 Jason: 16-21 Tim: 12-16
And then like a year later, Damian turns up and becomes the new Robin. Bruce: 42 Dick: 28 Jason: 22 Tim: 17 Damien: 10
And in the more current run of Batman and Robin Damian is about 15 now which would set everyone at roughly:
Bruce: 44 Dick: 30 Jason: 24 Tim: 22 Damian: 15
(The reason I didn’t mention Barbara, Stephanie, Duke, Kate, and all the others is because this is mostly just me mapping out the timeline for who was Robin when. Stephanie would’ve been between Tim’s time as Robin, but she was Robin for less than half a year so I didn’t add her into the timeline because her age is approximately the same as Tim’s give or take a year or two and I also didn’t want to break the timeline down into months because math is not my strong suit)
All in all, this is just a silly little timeline for me to make sense of my thoughts so I highly doubt that I’m right as I’ve not read every single comic book that there is, but I wanted a little way of knowing the age gap between characters for my own reference 
elseworlds where all the different dimension & timeline waynes come together
