supernatural s10e6 ask jeeves (w. eric charmelo, nicole snyder)
i looked her up because she reminds me of tissea from the witcher (spoiler alert looking her up apparently, i've been [sadly] bored to tears with s3 so i haven't finished it) but she was in coyote ugly! so i did recognize her. ish
s10e6 / coyote ugly - izabella miko as cammie / the witcher - myanna buring as tissaia
we got an spn / xfiles / the magicians / the killing actor! 🎉
and he was in the tooms episode of the x-files! (along with two others). and he was the faith healer in spn s1e12 faith, didn't recognize him at all with the sunglasses
the x-files s1e3 squeeze - kevin mcnulty as agent fuller / the magicians s2e1 km as knight of crowns / the killing s1e13 km as gas station manager
saw a gifset of this recently and spent plenty of time staring and rolling my eyes then. also, toxic masculinity/machismo is very much an issue in the culture but hello cuban coffee colada which comes with the ittiest bittiest cups (think basically creamer cups) for sharing. *pining for miami*
making my 😒 face at dean/writers right now
DEAN
Bobby had secrets, man. Like loving on Tori Spelling. If he only knew Dean cheated on her.
cue my brain trying to dig up an old memory of 90210 character names
but no, apparently, her actual spouse Dean McDermott (m. 2006). dean knows this? i can't predict what pop culture stuff dean might know or not. (like interweb?) and like last episode where he didn't know who calliope was, yet he's supposedly read the odyssey?
from s4e14 sex and violence (my recap)
DEAN
Like Greek myth siren, The Odyssey? ...Hey, I read!
just say no to dumbing down dean winchester.
also i don't think it's necessarily just sam's haircut that's so odd in this season, but it looks like it's getting blown out too. weird. it's normalish for his look in the front but very ~done~ in the back at times
just say yes to shutting up and watching, nic
s10e6 as heddy / new girl - gillian vigman as kim (schmidt's boss)
but there's more people i recognize 🥲 this is going to take forever. feels very... Clue-like
she calls them adorable, dean engages flirt-mode, sam makes a face. however! for what it's worth! i appreciate that as he's gotten older the rando side character women he flirts with are also regularly around his age or older
BEVERLY
Oh but you’re welcome to spend the night. All the rooms sleep two.
HEDDY
[slaps Dean’s butt] Or three.
i... okay. mad at the insinuation that sam and dean are sleeping together (?? do they know they're brothers or assuming married?? this show.), but happy about the butt slap/threesome offer?
DEAN
You stay here. Keep an eye on Mrs. Peacock and Colonel Mustard. I’ll sniff around.
okay then. Clue it is
DASH
Well Sam, I’ll let you in on a little family secret. We don’t really like each other. Then again, what family does?
SAM
Mine does. Uh, for the most part. It’s just my brother and me, so…
this is how the show has a chokehold on me. just when my commitment to watching every episode wavers, they're like oh but would you like to hear about how much sam and dean looove each other 🥺🥹
maybe toss sam a text before you go into the secret room
cute
is this all just an elaborate ad? lol
look at sam, sending a text to dean about the dude being dead. good job guys
HEDDY
Did you see how long his fingers his fingers were?
SAM
There…there’s just.
HEDDY
First of all, did you see this? Look how long…
and then at this point in the screenshot she's saying 9 inches?? whaaat is happening
did someone get a ruler out. and measured his..... hand
this episode is a lot
HEDDY
I knew those boys were trailer trash the moment they rolled up in that American-made.
BEVERLY
Not to mention homosexuals.
HEDDY
Ugh. Homosexual murderers. Like Leopold and Loeb.
guess we're just gonna ignore they're brothers now.
‘Scream’ Screenwriter Kevin Williamson Confirms Billy and Stu’s Queer-Coded Relationship Was Based on Real Gay Killers - huh, well thanks for leading me to that, wikipedia article on leopold and loeb!
DASH
Then where have you been hiding all these years?
OLIVIA
The attic.
AMBER
Like in the movie.
Reference to Flowers in the Attic, which is a story about children born of an incestuous relationship, who are hidden away in the attic of a wealthy relative
i was trying to think of what it could be referring to that wasn't flowers in the attic because hello incest reference, but okay
SAM
I mean….all those extra shots after the shifter was already dead. What was that?
DEAN
I don’t know. Target practice?
SAM
Come on, man. I’m serious. You sure it wasn’t….I don’t know, demon residue or something to do with the Mark, or...
demon residue made me laugh
dean getting defensive and weird, i'm sure he's fine
LOL all right (wiki)
Shortly before the episode aired, in November 2014, a Supernatural version of Clue was released.
siege: wrote 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester (with eric kripke), 4x12 criss angel is a douchebag, 4x18 the monster at the end of this book, 5x05 fallen idols, 5x12 swap meat, 5x17 99 problems
dabb & loflin: wrote 4x06 yellow fever, 4x13 after school special, 4x19 jump the shark, 5x06 i believe the children are our future, 5x11 sam interrupted, 5x16 dark side of the moon, 5x19 hammer of the gods, 6x04 weekend at bobby's, 6x07 family matters, 6x13 unforgiven, 6x18 frontierland, 7x03 the girl next door, 7x08 season seven time for a wedding, 7x14 plucky pennywhistle's magic menagerie, 7x22 there will be blood, 8x02 what's up, tiger mommy?
glass: wrote 6x02 two and a half men, 6x08 all dogs go to heaven, 6x12 like a virgin, 6x19 mommy dearest, 7x04 defending your life, 7x11 adventures in babysitting, 7x18 party on, garth, 8x06 southern comfort, 8x12 as time goes by, 8x18 freaks and geeks, 9x12 sharp teeth, 9x17 mother's little helper, 10x04 paper moon, 10x12 about a boy
charmelo & snyder: wrote 6x06 you can't handle the truth, 6x14 mannequin 3: the reckoning, 6x17 my heart will go on, 9x05 dog dean afternoon, 9x13 the purge, 10x06 ask jeeves, 10x13 halt & catch fire, 11x07 plush, 11x13 love hurts
matthews: wrote 6x05 live free or twi-hard, 6x10 caged heat, 6x16 and then there were none
My favourite thing about season 16 is that it can be relatively quiet for a whole month and then like 10 new things will drop within the span of three days and everyone is left scrambling to figure out what the hell is happening
“A lot of remarkable music was created in this space. B.G.'s Canteen. Now, it's not as well known as The Bitter End or The Gaslight, but some amazing musicians got their start on this stage. I'm hoping that you and I can tap into some of that old magic and finish what I started a few months ago.”
Anyway here’s an article about the queer history of CBGB and the punk movement (x)
Link to CBGB conversation or ‘Sam realizing Dean and Cas talk a fair amount when he isn’t around’ (x)
Actors Chad Linberg (Ash) and Samantha Ferris (Ellen) made tweets to role play a Valentine’s Day celebration at the Roadhouse. Several of their comments seemed to be suggesting that they would celebrate the wedding of Dean and Cas, and fans took this idea and ran with it. On the fourteenth, fans held their own celebration across social media platforms by joyfully sharing writing, art, headcanons, and memes, getting #DeanCasWedding trending in the process. Ferris and Lindburg did not roleplay a wedding, and both actors became defensive when the subject was brought up, stating that holding a gay wedding would fail to “uphold the integrity & spirit of the show” and that they had never suggested anything else. Fans were hurt and frustrated by these responses, as well as Lindburg’s liking of a post that claimed Destiel supporters have been “gaslighting the rest of the fandom for 10+ years.” Other people associated with the Supernatural community including actor Kat Ramdeen, writer Eric Charmelo, and the official account for Stands merchandising, responded to fans in a more positive way.
A more detailed account of events, including source links, is located below the cut.
Our post on the Roadhouse reopening
link to Chad Lindburg's twitter
link to Samantha Ferris's twitter
If you want to join us in commemorating Dean and Castiel’s wedding, submit fanworks using the guidelines provided here. (Deadline extended to February 28th, 2021)
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Last week, actors Chad Linberg (Ash) and Samantha Ferris (Ellen) announced their decision to roleplay a Valentine’s day celebration at the Roadhouse. Lindburg and Ferris had already successfully liveblogged a birthday party for Dean Winchester on January 24 and the reopening of the Roadhouse bar on February 10 (Kat Ramdeen also rp-d this event.) (1)
Both Ferris and Lindburg mentioned “wedding season” in their posts, which piqued fan interest, and fans latched on to the idea that they might be planning a Deancas wedding. This theory was further supported by Lindburg’s own interactions with fans: [this one might be too confusing: at one point, he failed to like--or possibly liked and then quickly unliked, a tweet that read “don't like this reply if a deancas wedding is gonna happen at the roadhouse” (2). He directed fans with ‘questions’ to an account who was a public destiel shipper (3) He also responded to a tweet reading “people think you guys are celebrating a Destiel wedding, that isn’t the case of course.” with “Um no sorry...you did NOT get the memo” (4)
On February 14 #DeanCasWedding trended on twitter as fans across the world staged their own, fan-created celebration by joyfully sharing writing, art, headcanons, and memes. Ferris and Lindburg wrote innocuous Roadhouse update tweets all day long, including a sequence where Lindburg got in a fight with Elvis, and concluding with the partial destruction of the Roadhouse by unknown forces. No mention was made of the wedding by either actor.
However, partway through Monday February 15, Ferris and Lindburg began addressing questions as to why they had hinted they would hold a wedding and then not followed through.
Chad Lindburg responded that he never intended to imply that he would hold a Deancas wedding, and issued this statement.
“Yes, among other things, the Roadhouse does “weddings.” I had NO idea this would be taken out of context..If you thought you were sold something else, you weren't...this was a way to bring people together and have fun. State your views, however, I’ll be blocking any rude or nastiness today.”(5)
Lindburg did go on to block multiple twitter users who tried to engage with him on this topic. Over the next few days, Lindburg’s tweets ranged from attempts to validate fan’s feelings, such as “No one is delusional. You're all validated. Remember, we're all just having fun with our imaginations. And actually, the Fandom has just as much weight as the actors. It goes both ways. We can't have one without the other. We're grateful for all of you.” (6) to hostile, such as replying “Thank you [hands clasped emoji]” to a tweet that read “Ironically the ones complaining about being gaslit by you are the ones that have been gaslighting the rest of the fandom for 10+ years.” (7)
Samantha Ferris responded that they would never hold a DeanCas wedding because Supernatural is “a story about family, bonds, and supernatural power struggles. The direction has never included sexuality or romance” and that she believed that her and Lindburg’s “role is to uphold the integrity & spirit of the show” and that “it would be disrespectful to all the people who tried to tell this tale if we validated it [the Deancas relationship]” (8) Her full tweets on the matter read,
“Ima say this once then move on. @ChadLindberg & I can’t follow you down that road. As part of the storyline, our role is to uphold the integrity & spirit of the show: it’s a story about family, bonds, and supernatural power struggles. The direction never included sexuality or romance. That was never what it was supposed to be about. So to honour the cast, crew, and creators, we respect their intentions. You wanna create your side story? Go for it. But it would be disrespectful to all the people who tried to tell this tale if we validated it…”
Ferris and Lindburg have continued to roleplay their Roadhouse updates, although they have both lost followers in fan interest after the events of this week.
Other people associated with the spn community responded more positively: Writer Eric Charmelo responded to the wedding posting by liking #DeancasWedding fanart (9).
Actor Kat Ramdeen (Alex) tweeted on Valentine’s day
“I love you #SPNFamily I see you”
accompanied by a rainbow heart and a Social justice Pride Flag made up of hearts (10).
Stands, a company that sells fandom merchandise made in collaboration with the actors and gives a portion of proceeds to charity, sent out these two supportive tweets in response to the drama in the Supernatural community
“I’ve just caught up and I’m sorry y’all are having a rough go. I love you. <3” (11)
and
“It’s so rare I’m actually mad but to be clear- absolutely no one gets to define how you experience something you love. Just go on with your bad selves and enjoy the things that make you happy. As if the last two years haven’t been shit enough. Seize your moments, ignore the rest” (12)
our post on roadhouse reopening
link to Chad Lindburg's twitter
link to Samantha Ferris's twitter
If you want to join us in commemorating Dean and Castiel’s wedding, submit fanworks using the guidelines provided here. (Deadline extended to February 28th, 2021)
I think about Eric Charmelo roughly once a week. He wrote (with Nicole Snyder) Dog Dean Afternoon and Love Hurts and My Heart Will Go On and he ships destiel.
