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It kind of bugs me that Tumblr has seized upon “taking everything literally” as the Defining Neurodivergent Experience™ – not only because it’s actually pretty uncommon, but also because it’s erasing an enormous variety of other frequent communication style issues, including but not limited to:
Having your brain stubbornly seize upon the first interpretation that happens to pop into your head as the Only Possible Interpretation, regardless of whether it’s literal or figurative
Easily identifying several possible interpretations of a statement, but having absolutely no ability to parse for context and identify which of those interpretations is most plausible
Being confronted with a statement that has Implications, then getting thrown for a loop when it turns out that the speaker wasn’t considering any of that and really did just mean it literally
Perfectly understanding a statement’s intended meaning, but getting annoyed with the speaker anyway because they didn’t phrase it Correctly, seriously, are you the only person here who gives a shit about the goddamn Rules?
It's beaten out of you in elementary school.
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Screaming dying shrieking murdering the worst thing possible happened to me during our apartment inspection and I simply must flee the country
The inspector gave us a talk about how he’s not here to judge how we live our lives, then he walked into my bedroom and shrieked with laughter and fellas. Fellas. Fellas. Fellas. I’m gonna make you wait in suspense the same way I did. Because. Because. God I can’t even continue
He comes out of my bedroom and he asks “so are you a big fan of Supernatural or just a big fan of Jensen Ackles” which is. The worst question any human has ever asked me. Because I have a. Non-zero amount of supernatural merch in my room. All of which I’ve accumulated in the last three years like a real war criminal. And I said “oh my god” and he said “nah it’s cool, I like supernatural license plate on my leg” and I’m like “cool man. I. Suppose now I can’t talk about how I hate this show and how there’s a deep sense of irony with which I own Supernatural stickers on my bookshelf. So I guess I just have to say that I enjoy the show too.” (PLEASE NOTE—AT THIS POINT, I ASSUME HE IS REACTING TO THE SUPERNATURAL STICKERS I HAVE ON MY BOOKSHELF) and Amelia comes in to save my ass by saying the truth, which is so many of my friends have taken to giving me Supernatural gag gifts, and we all had a little chuckle
And then he left
And I went into my room
And I saw what he saw
I need a two minute pause to scream hold on
Forgot this pillow was on my bed
Happy anniversary everyone, I want to take this day (2 days after original post) to defend and clarify myself on something which is that the inspector had a tattoo of the license plate from the impala (that’s what I was trying to write up there and garbled so badly) (I wrote that post in the midst of a maelstrom of emotions I’d never before experienced, a sort of delighted schadenfreude directly at myself for getting fucked so badly, and my fingers simply couldn’t type)
A tattoo! A supernatural tattoo! Knows Jensen Ackles’ name and face from across the room! I think the core of how delighted this experience somehow made me was the fact that I couldn’t have been this fuckin transcendently humiliated by someone who wasn’t also as cringe as me, and isn’t that ultimately what modern supernatural fandom is
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Okay, so, I get it. Its a great site! You can post things there without worry that someone who claims that media seeing it and sending lawsuits on your ass.
You can write all sorts of things, and you can have it be taggable and organizable on this neat website.
It runs donations every now and again so that they can keep the site's servers (and therefore the stories) up. It also keeps a team of lawyers so that any person who takes issue will have to deal with actual law know how.
Thats great, and I love the site for the neat, organizable system it is. It sucks that people write shitty stuff, but fiction can help you run through situations you never want happening irl, and if you dont like it, don't read it!
But. Uh. Enough about ao3, the twitter post is made by a Thorki shipper. They emphasize the part of no censorship of adult content. Hm.
Okay look, you made a very rational post for the most part, and I am not trying to pick on you or start a fight (unlike my recent replies to anon where I let my cranky out full-steam). You appear to be generally getting the drift, and I appreciate your moderate tone.
I am not bitching at you, here. I am kind of laughing at you, though. In a gentle and non-aggressive way.
I, uh, I have some news for you... about the people who, y’know, founded AO3:
Oh this is... *chef's kiss* I haven't seen such delicious dramatic irony in the wild since the days when first-time New Who viewers would plaster their Doomsday liveblogs and distraught Tenth Doctor Feels reaction posts with that one "I'm in a glass case of emotion" gif.
ASTOLAT STARTED AO3?!?!?!?!?!?!
I should be used to these posts by now, but they never fail to crack me up.
AO3 was proposed in astolat’s 2007 post An Archive of One’s Own (making the Virginia Woolf reference even more obvious).
Always hilarious. A little sad, in that it shows how much people don’t look into the “About” pages or histories of popular websites, but also, delightful that AO3 is being used by people who have no idea why it was made; it’s just useful to them. (Which was absolutely the plan.)
But yeah. AO3 is never going to get rid of the underage sex, the incest, the sex-pollen orgies, the forced marriage fics, the mpreg, the underage incestuous forced-marriage sex pollen orgies resulting in mpreg fics... because those were the reason it was created.
@elfwreck AO3 was created in response to a series of actions being taken by several authors who didn't like fans writing content in the authors sandbox for themselves, for free, and sharing it with other fans. Entire archives of fan fiction were taken down and purged. LiveJournals were particularly affected by this, as well as many other sites I can't remember the names of right now (it's almost 6am and I haven't slept yet, forgive me).
That's why it's called Archive of Our Own. It's a fan-created, fan-run, fan-moderated archive of fan fiction that is well protected by lawyers so that the authors who just want to have fun and be creative don't have formal legal action taken against them again.
Yes, that happened. It was terrifying.
In case you ever run across a fic with a disclaimer on it that says something to the effect of: "don't own, not making money, please don't come after me" that's why. I remember putting those on my cringey af fics myself on ff.net, or fanfiction.net.
That site is another large reason why AO3 is what it is, too. FF.net decided one day that adult/mature content was no longer allowed, and they promptly removed all of it. Didn't inform the authors, nothing. Just... Whoosh. Gone. Mind you, they had a rating system, so if you didn't want to find explicit fics, it was easy not to. AFF.net, or adultfanfiction.net, was put in place rather quickly and it was alright for awhile, but ultimately a bandaid.
Then, AO3 came along, and the game changed. Things could be tagged, collated, and organised like never before, and part of that was because AO3 decided not to censor content. They decided not to because of the damage that had been done to the fanfiction community due to all the recent bans and purges. All of the tropes you mentioned have been around for way, waaaaay longer than AO3.
The site wasn't created to cater to ships, tropes, or kinky stuff; it was created to house fan fiction, no matter the type, and to keep the fans who wrote it from being legally attacked by angry authors. Anne Rice was one of the big names in this, btw. AO3 is a virtual library, essentially; they expect the reader to have responsibility about the media they consume.
Btw, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything; I only wanted to educate you if you didn't know. I think it's very important to preserve our own history, because it's so unique and also because things have changed so much and so rapidly. If you did already know all this background, then please just disregard 💚
AO3 was created for a lot of reasons; protection from authors who got upset at fanfic involving their characters was one of them.
Mainly - it was created for fic that was at risk of being thrown off other platforms. It was created after Strikethrough and Fanlib, with several of the founders still coping with the sudden closing of Detention.
“Fics that might be challenged by authors” was a large category AO3 was built to welcome. AO3′s founders looked into the legalities of Rice’s claims, and the history of things like Yarbro’s legal action against a fanzine, and decided: No more. We’re done with fanworks being squished by the mere threat of lawyers, without fans having any idea how copyright law actually works.
Extreme kink was another big category: Fic and art with content that regularly got thrown off of hosting sites, regardless of the legality, because it squicked someone who couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to the “don’t like? don’t click” warnings.The definition of “extreme kink” shifted around a lot; in some places, any slash pairing was considered “adult rated” and “too kinky.” In others, slash was fine; explicit sex was not. In others, sex was fine, but any hint of BDSM would get a work removed. And so on. Lots of shifting goalposts.
AO3 wasn’t specifically focused around “extreme kinky smut,” but it was made with that content specifically in mind; the terms of service and acceptable content policies were shaped by “how do we allow for stuff that’s going to disturb or offend a lot of people?” Content that would bother fans was just as important as allowing content that would bother outsiders, authors and media companies and moralistic crusaders trying to purge the world of whatever fictional tropes were most hated this year.
(@lesdeuxcygnes I don’t think we’re in disagreement, just focused on different parts of the history.)
"You can write all sorts of things, and you can have it be taggable and organizable on this neat website. "
"It sucks that people write shitty stuff, but fiction can help you run through situations you never want happening irl, and if you dont like it, don't read it!"
"But. Uh. Enough about ao3, the twitter post is made by a Thorki shipper."
All of this. AO3 was created to be permissive of any type of content that isn't actually illegal, explicitly because there was a well-documented history--which its founders lived through personally--showing that any other kind of censorship of the material posted would inevitably open the site up to bad actors who would weaponize the TOS to go after whatever type of content they didn't like. And no, not just the three or four types people who give AO3 flak always cite. Never just that. Often not even starting with that.
The conclusion this incredibly dedicated group of fans with legal knowledge and years of fandom experience came to after great deliberation was that obviously, censoring illegal content is necessary for the protection of fanworks and the archive. But the second you try to start censoring works beyond what's actually illegal, the TOS is open to abuse and the archive is no longer protected. Because no matter how specific or careful you think you're being, it will never be specific or careful enough not to open the door to third parties who want to exploit the TOS to censor content they don't personally like.
Want an example? Fics containing sexual content involving underage characters. Seems straightforward, right? Should be super easy to ban that at least!
Underage according to which state or country? And what counts as sexual content? Does this change if the characters are queer? Can you guarantee any possible person interpreting the TOS will have all the same answers to those questions as you?
If two 17-year-old boys kiss or hold hands, does that scene logically get lumped in with a graphically described sex scene between a man and woman in their 30s, and banned accordingly since the characters are underage? I would say no, you might say no...but there are a TON of people in the world that would say yes, absolutely. And that isn't some edge case. That is a very real and prominent pillar of the arguments homophobes make against ANY queer content especially in traditional children's and young adult's media. And it all starts with saying "just ban underage sexual content" as if the whole world understands and agrees on the definition of all those words.
I am a licensor/content creator and I approve the core of the above message.
(And I’ve had a long day, so if you feel the need to fight me over this, please wait till tomorrow. Otherwise, just tag your fic here “not you DD” and get on with it, secure in the knowledge that I don’t read fanfics set in my universes on AO3.)
it’s still hilarious to me that thor/loki is like the de facto knee jerk incest ship to condemn when thor and loki are not only not blood relations, they’re not even the same fucking species, and loki’s legal status as odin’s adopted son is incredibly questionable considering odin basically just found him on the ground and took him home like ‘hey, free baby!’
like. some people are so far into their puritanical little bubble that they just assume that everyone knows to hate these ships and hate anyone who likes these ships, but like the underlying reason for that is just ‘someone thought it was kind of gross’.
let’s see how this goes
KSDFHSKDJFHSKFJHSFKJ???
Everyone’s like “those Germans have a word for everything” but English has a word for tricking someone into watching the music video for Rick Astley’s Never Gonna Give You Up.
English has a lot more words created for very specific phenomena! It’s not just rick-rolling. Language is always evolving and it’s super interesting! Here’s a list of hyper-specific/untranslatable words in English.
Some of these are fucking wild.
“Love is a sacrament that should be taken kneeling”
—Oscar Wilde
Oscar Wilde WAS gay and he DID suck dicks but “love is a sacrament that should be taken kneeling” is not about oral sex. It is not even erotic.
Here’s the rest of the quote. It’s from De Profundis:
“Most people live for love and admiration. But it is by love and admiration that we should live. If any love is shown us we should recognise that we are quite unworthy of it. Nobody is worthy to be loved. The fact that God loves man shows us that in the divine order of ideal things it is written that eternal love is to be given to what is eternally unworthy. Or if that phrase seems to be a bitter one to bear, let us say that everyone is worthy of love, except him who thinks that he is. Love is a sacrament that should be taken kneeling, and Domine, non sum dignus should be on the lips and in the hearts of those who receive it.”
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Introducing: Community Labels
As you know, art and artists make Tumblr what it is. We want everyone on Tumblr to be able to fully express themselves while also having control over what they encounter on their dashboards. That’s why we’re introducing Community Labels, an extension to your “Content you see” settings. Our ultimate goal is to create a more open Tumblr, and this is our first step in that direction.
As a poster and reblogger, Community Labels are your way to help your followers avoid anything they’d rather not come across on their dashboards.
As a follower, setting your content preferences is a way to adjust your feed to your own comfort levels.
How does it work?
When creating new posts (or editing old posts), you’ll see controls allowing you to label your post as unsuitable for those filtering certain content types it contains.
When content is labeled, it will either be hidden, blurred, or displayed normally, based on each user’s preferences.
In your “Content you see” settings, you can now choose to show, blur, or hide content that depicts the following topics:
Drug and alcohol addiction: Contains discussions of substance abuse or addiction experience.
Violence: Contains violent or graphic content similar to what you might see in an age-restricted movie.
Sexual themes: Contains sexually suggestive subject matter, such as erotic writing or imagery.
Some examples of content that would require a community label:
Fanart of your favorite ship engaging with each other in…a very private moment
Euphoria GIFs showing Rue’s substance abuse
A movie trailer depicting graphic war scenes
A graphic 50 Shades of Grey edit
This doesn’t change our content policies: spam, hate content, and porn bots are still not welcome in the community. It’s also still important that we abide by app store rules, which means we need to make sure that mature content is only accessible to people who are old enough and have opted in to view that type of content. More information about Community Labels is available in the Help Center.
This is an opportunity to work towards a richer, more nuanced Tumblr experience while making sure everyone who enjoys using Tumblr can do so safely. That future we mentioned above? We’re already moving towards it.
Community labels are our first step toward making sure that everything is appropriately tagged on Tumblr so that people aren’t exposed to content they don’t want to see or aren’t legally allowed to see. The response has been great so far, and I’m very excited that a fuller range of artists will be able to appropriately tag and protect their art and work. App store policies, particularly Apple’s, still mean that we need to take extra steps to make sure that anything tagged isn’t available to younger users and you need to explicitly opt-in to make sure it shows up. (That’s why we’re collecting birthdays now.) We haven’t updated the official content policies yet but hope to bring them more in line with our policies on WordPress.com soon.
They're letting sex image back into the site!!! Now you HAVE TO POST It 👉🕳️
UH OH
HOLE'S BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS
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This is the language equivalent of King Solomon suggesting cutting the baby in half.